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Title: Is shadow mario an official character now?
Post by: Dark_Mario on October 21, 2003, 10:37:46 PM

Hmm, i'm just wondering. I've been hearing that he is now an official mario character that has been added to the series. Not much is known about shadow mario, the only things we've known and heard is that he had an appearance in mario golf for gamecube and super mario sunshine. I've heard he might be in mario party 5 as well. Thats pretty much all we know. Shadow mario was created by bowser and he likes to cause trouble and paint places with his paint brush. He likes to get mario in trouble, and his voice sounds a big like warios or maybe more higher. What do you guys think of shadow mario, and do you think he should get a new character to the series?

Title: Re: Is shadow mario an official character now?
Post by: Lizard Dude on October 21, 2003, 10:48:51 PM

Well, if the Koopa Kids got to be in two games, Shadow Mario (I guess) deserves equal rights.

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Title: Re: Is shadow mario an official character now?
Post by: Hope(N Forever) on October 22, 2003, 05:40:37 AM

The Koopa Kids have appeared in THREE games:

Super Mario Bro.s 3 (plus, the GameBoy Advance version), Super Mario World, AND Yoshi's Safari!

All of these games are ADVENTURE games...


How could Shadow Mario be counted as one of the official characters if he appeared in just one adventure game?

Besides, where are the Koopa Kids now?


By the way, are you sure it was Shadow Mario that appeared in Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour? I don't have the game, but I doubt it...

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...and in no point in the future will he ever be abandonded by me!

I will even drawn the best Super Mario comics ever to exist!!

Title: Re: Is shadow mario an official character now?
Post by: Dark_Mario on October 22, 2003, 12:34:03 PM

What are you talking about? There are characters that pretty much made no debut in any super mario games. Toadette is now an official mario character, and she is in Mario Kart double dash. She will most likely be in mario party 5 as well. She's brand new, and she has never been in any other mario games before. Waluigi isn't really new, but he was just made up quickly so wario could have a partner. And shadow mario was in mario Golf for gamecube, he's a secret character. I wouldnt be suprised if Shadow mario became an official character.

Title: Re: Is shadow mario an official character now?
Post by: Hirocon on October 22, 2003, 02:54:22 PM

By the way, Hope, the 7 named koopa kids also appeared in "Mario is Missing" (the PC version, anyway...I've never seen the SNES version).

I don't mind Nintendo making lots of Mario characters and making them part of the franchise quickly, but I wish they wouldn't make so many REDUNDANT characters.  For example, Baby Mario AND Mario in the same game, at the same time?!  That makes me mad.  And Shadow Mario was just Bowser Jr. (himself a somewhat redundant character) in disguise.  And the whole concept of an "antimario" is redundant anyway, because WARIO was created to be the "antimario".  Let's just hope Shadow Mario doesn't appear in a future incarnation of Super Smash Brothers.  That series has enough clone characters as it is.

Title: Re: Is shadow mario an official character now?
Post by: Trainman on October 22, 2003, 03:45:00 PM

Somebody asked where the Koopa Kids went. Well, different people make different games, so the Koopa Kids may or may not be included. Something around in that area.

Shadow Mario IS a character in MG:TT.
Never heard of this "Toadette" person. You say you have seen this "Toadette" on MK:DD? Well, if so, MEGAߥTE or David would have reported it, for they went to E3 and BOTH tested the games. So we'll see about that.

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Title: Re: Is shadow mario an official character now?
Post by: Dark_Mario on October 22, 2003, 03:48:24 PM

I've been a mario fan for years, i dont need to spread rumours about anything. Whats there to spread? I, myself thinks that having a female toad seems kinda cheesy. Let me find the link to the pic and i'll show you your proof.

Title: Re: Is shadow mario an official character now?
Post by: Fifth on October 22, 2003, 03:50:38 PM

Secret characters wouldn't have been in the E3 demo veresion of Double Dash.  That is, if there are secret characters at all (I haven't heard anything, and I'd rather like to keep it that way.)  The E3 demo only had the 16 characters everybody knows about.

Go Moon!

Title: Re: Is shadow mario an official character now?
Post by: Dark_Mario on October 22, 2003, 03:59:04 PM

http://www.mariokartdoubledash.co.uk/finished_screens/Other%20pics/toad.jpg

Thats Toadette. Theres also a few more pics of her with toad in there kart. There secret Weapon is the golden mushroom.

Title: Re: Is shadow mario an official character now?
Post by: Chupperson Weird on October 22, 2003, 11:04:03 PM

I'd say Shadow Mario has been an "official" character since Super Mario Sunshine...

Title: Re: Is shadow mario an official character now?
Post by: Chupperson Weird on October 22, 2003, 11:04:32 PM

...even if he is Bowser Jr.

Title: Re: Is shadow mario an official character now?
Post by: Fifth on October 22, 2003, 11:28:17 PM

Yup.  Though it's kind of rude to bring it up around him.

Go Moon!

Title: Re: Is shadow mario an official character now?
Post by: TEM on October 25, 2003, 09:39:47 AM

I was wondering when someone would bring that up CW.

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Title: Re: Is shadow mario an official character now?
Post by: Forest Guy on October 25, 2003, 10:30:37 AM

Ok. Here's the scoop to all your questions even if they were already answered in the thread.

1. Shadow Mario may or may not be an official character now. He IS in MarioGolf: TOadstool Tour, and I own the game and unlocked him. To get him, you must complete all the ring courses in One-Player mode.

2. Shadow Mario is not his own character, and Bowser did not create him. Bowser Jr. (The latest addition to the Koopa family) simply purchased a special Paint Brush made by E. Gadd Enterprises (Or whatever his company's name is) and got a special Bandana from somewhere that can transform him inot Shadow Mario when he puts it over his face.

3. There are three classes of children of Bowser: Bowser Jr. who seems to be the most probable of the all the children and was introduced in Mario Sunshine, Koopa Kids/Baby Bowsers who are numerous and appeared in Mario Party games, and the Koopalings which were in Super Mario Bros. 3, Yoshi's Safari, Super Mario World, and Mario is Missing.

4.Toadette is not a new character. It is simply a female version of a Toad. Like Toad, it can be the actual character Toad, or simply the race of people. Toadtettes have appeared in numerous games which include Paper Mario and Super Mario RPG.

There. Now everyone stop arguing because you've been blessed by the wisdom of Meowrik this time!

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Title: Re: Is shadow mario an official character now?
Post by: Screech on October 25, 2003, 01:15:21 PM

Meowrik answers all.

Though I don't think that baby bowsers are Bowser's actual children. But what do I know?

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Title: Re: Is shadow mario an official character now?
Post by: Dark_Mario on October 25, 2003, 01:40:55 PM

Toadette is a new character. Even if there is more than one female toad, they chose toadette in particular to be toad's counterpart. Out of every female, why toadette, and why now? They did it so toad can have a partner.

Title: Re: Is shadow mario an official character now?
Post by: Forest Guy on October 25, 2003, 10:01:52 PM

No no no. Toadette is not new. Toadette is simply any female version of a Toad. They didn't make her up. She's just a random Toadette from all the Toadettes in the Mushroom Kingdom.

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Title: Re: Is shadow mario an official character now?
Post by: Chupperson Weird on October 25, 2003, 11:13:43 PM

This is all fine, but remember: Toad is one individual Toad, separate from the other Toads, as evidenced in Super Mario RPG.

Title: Re: Is shadow mario an official character now?
Post by: TEM on October 26, 2003, 10:36:46 AM

Aren't they mushroom people? They shouldn't have any gender separation, isn't fungus asexual?

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Title: Re: Is shadow mario an official character now?
Post by: Lizard Dude on October 26, 2003, 01:10:03 PM

Fungi are asexual. Fungi eject spores.

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Title: Re: Is shadow mario an official character now?
Post by: Chupperson Weird on October 26, 2003, 10:16:36 PM

Hence the references to spores in SMRPG.

But seriously, they're anthropomorphized mushrooms. So that entitles them to ...reproduce differently.

Title: Re: Is shadow mario an official character now?
Post by: Hope(N Forever) on October 27, 2003, 04:16:26 AM

This stuff will always make you wonder how will you ever figure out Nintendo's designs on their games...

Back to the Shadow Mario topic, so he's actually Bowser Jr. now...
Hence, now is Bowser Jr. a new character to the Super Mario Universe?

I am a pure Super Mario lover!!
...and in no point in the future will he ever be abandonded by me!
I will even drawn the best Super Mario comics ever to exist!!

Title: Re: Is shadow mario an official character now?
Post by: Forest Guy on October 27, 2003, 03:53:57 PM

Hmm.... it'd appear that he may be a new character. In a sense, Bowser Jr. is the most logical and useful of all the children Bowser ever had, because anytime Bowser needs a partner for something, Ie: Mario Kart Double Dash!!, Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour, or possibly Mario Tennis, it's easier this way. If they were to keep the Koopalings, then they'd have a hard time choosing which ones to use in certain games, which would spark up arguments and distaste for the game from fans of certain Koopaling Fans. And they wouldn't be able to waste space and put all the Koopalings in one game. So, I for one think Bowser Jr. should stay the new child of Bowser.

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Title: Re: Is shadow mario an official character now?
Post by: Dark_Mario on October 27, 2003, 08:29:53 PM

I dont have a problem with shadow mario being a new character. But what i dont understand is that if Shadow mario is really baby bowser, then how can shadow mario be himself by himself? I'm also thinking shadow mario would be a bad guy that works for bowser if he was to join the crew.

Title: Re: Is shadow mario an official character now?
Post by: Hirocon on October 27, 2003, 08:36:08 PM

I don't care about Shadow Mario.  Back to the discussion of Toad....

Is Toad a specific creature of a species called Toads?  Not to be confused with toads?  Or are called they mushroom people?  Then what are goombas?  And is Yoshi a specific creature of the species called yoshis?

My head hurts.

Title: Re: Is shadow mario an official character now?
Post by: Chupperson Weird on October 27, 2003, 08:45:19 PM

Yes to all your questions, and Goombas are essentially evil Toads.

Title: Re: Is shadow mario an official character now?
Post by: Trainman on October 27, 2003, 08:46:08 PM

You mean "debate," Meowrik, instead of "argument?" This is a debate, really.

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Title: Re: Is shadow mario an official character now?
Post by: Hope(N Forever) on October 28, 2003, 08:05:06 AM

Did any of ever realise that Goombas look a lot like one of those edible chinese mushrooms which you fry?

I am a pure Super Mario lover!!
...and in no point in the future will he ever be abandonded by me!
I will even drawn the best Super Mario comics ever to exist!!