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Title: which secret character fights the strongest in SSBM?
Post by: bladeofLUIGl on May 07, 2004, 09:17:43 PM
 Who does? I mean really, Falco is pretty strong with with the G diffuser, but Fox is faster. Luigi's jump is the farthest, but Pikachu has a pretty similar move, though... Marth has the infinite slash, but Link can hit faster. Roy can counter, but others can to. (Peach/Zelda/Marth/etc.) Young Link has fire arrows, but Link has arrows, just as strong. Am I missing anyone?
Title: Re: which secret character fights the strongest in SSBM?
Post by: MEGAߥTE on May 07, 2004, 09:27:40 PM
Well, you missed all of the strongest moves.  And some of the characters you listed aren't secret characters...
A few examples:
Jigglypuff's nap
Pichu's charged heatbutt
Luigi's uppercut
Title: Re: which secret character fights the strongest in SSBM?
Post by: bladeofLUIGl on May 07, 2004, 09:55:14 PM
 I was comparing secret to normall.

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Title: Re: which secret character fights the strongest in SSBM?
Post by: Popple on May 07, 2004, 10:07:59 PM
Come on down to Norm's Mall of secrets! We've got this month's, last month's, how can these prices get any lower!?!

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Title: Re: which secret character fights the strongest in SSBM?
Post by: Popple on May 07, 2004, 10:07:59 PM
Well I suppose Gannondorf's smash up A is pretty powerfull, I used it to beat Master and crazy hand in the 2nd to last event match. Because of the power... Yeah.

Edited by - Popple on 5/7/2004 9:10:18 PM
Title: Re: which secret character fights the strongest in SSBM?
Post by: on May 08, 2004, 01:14:11 AM
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Edited by - Shawne20 on 5/8/2004 12:14:42 AM
Title: Re: which secret character fights the strongest in SSBM?
Post by: Super Mario on May 08, 2004, 07:34:31 AM
I would have to go with Luigi's Fire Jump Punch... that thing wastes smaller characters on 50% or more. Every time I play as Kirby he sends me flying. I would expect it to be strong since it's one of those harder moves to get off--not just timing or waiting, you have to be accurate and do it in just the right spot.

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Title: Re: which secret character fights the strongest in SSBM?
Post by: Nameneko on May 08, 2004, 10:28:42 AM
Who does Mr. Game-and-Watch correspond with?

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Title: Re: which secret character fights the strongest in SSBM?
Post by: Forest Guy on May 08, 2004, 10:31:20 AM
What do you mean, who does he correspond with?

Oh, and Yoshi's Down Air Attack is capable of inflicting huge amounts of damage if used correctly.

But of course, if it's plain old smashes, grab a Home Run Bat and just KO people at will with that thing.

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Title: Re: which secret character fights the strongest in SSBM?
Post by: 123James on May 08, 2004, 11:59:29 AM
Mr. Game-and-Watch doesn't correspond with any one, he is a one-of-a-kind character.
Title: Re: which secret character fights the strongest in SSBM?
Post by: tom ato on September 07, 2004, 03:28:49 AM
jigglypuff is the best secret charcter
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damage your foe with ->B then use vB to defete them quickly (jigglypuff is the best to use for event 51)

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Title: Re: which secret character fights the strongest in SSBM?
Post by: Sqrt2 on September 07, 2004, 01:58:47 PM
Ganondorf is the strongest secret character in SSBM as the Warlock punch will KO just about anybody in one go (with the probable exception of Bowser). And as for tom ato's comments about jigglypuff's Rest move(B\/)it is terribly hard to pull off (requiring very close contact to the opponent)and if it fails, it leaves jigglypuff open to a potential smash attack.

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Title: Re: which secret character fights the strongest in SSBM?
Post by: Chupperson Weird on September 07, 2004, 07:33:03 PM
When my best friend plays SSBM against me as Jigglypuff, the nap rules all.
Title: Re: which secret character fights the strongest in SSBM?
Post by: Sqrt2 on September 25, 2004, 03:15:44 PM
Even so, if two equally skilled players are playing each other, one playing as the jigglypuff and the other playing as Ganonorf, the player using ganondorf is more likely to win as ganondorf has greater stamina and needs more damage to be KO'd.

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Title: Re: which secret character fights the strongest in SSBM?
Post by: Super Mario on September 25, 2004, 06:41:03 PM
Well, think of the secret characters...

Dr. Mario, Luigi, Ganondorf, Falco, Young Link, Pichu, Jigglypuff, Mewtwo, Mr. Game-and-Watch, Marth, and Roy.

The "power hitters" are Ganondorf, Roy, and Dr. Mario (enough), and Young Link (enough), and Mewtwo.

The "speed players" are Pichu, Jigglypuff, Falco, and Marth (though still strong).

Mr. Game-and-Watch is a little of both, and is somewhat unpredictable, respectively...

And Luigi is pretty much right in the middle.

Now, you take a slew of experience gamers and have them match these secret characters against each other, the power characters are going to win on a small stage, the speedy characters will probably fair better in more open range.

But a character like, say, Luigi, who is well-rounded, has a chance to win anywhere. He's quick but also has very strong attacks, like his Fire Jump Punch.

In my opinion, Luigi, like Mario, has the greatest chance of winning amongst the other characters, because he's so well-rounded and versatile.

Of course, I'm not biased at all...

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Title: Re: which secret character fights the strongest in SSBM?
Post by: Chupperson Weird on September 25, 2004, 08:30:46 PM
Sqrt2, you can KO Giga Bowser at 0% with Jigglypuff.
Title: Re: which secret character fights the strongest in SSBM?
Post by: Sqrt2 on September 26, 2004, 02:16:01 PM
Yeah but that is playing against the computer. Try doing that against a skilled human-controlled opponent!

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Edited by - Sqrt2 on 9/26/2004 1:17:19 PM
Title: Re: which secret character fights the strongest in SSBM?
Post by: Red Paratroopa on September 26, 2004, 02:23:03 PM
Jigglypuff's attack only works during that brief moment that it occupies the exact same place as it's opponent. Hence, Jiggly's Rest works much better the bigger the opponent. It would have an easier time dealing with Ganondorf than, say, Pikachu.

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Title: Re: which secret character fights the strongest in SSBM?
Post by: Sqrt2 on September 29, 2004, 12:47:34 PM
But a skilled Ganondorf player would take account of this and plan their tactics accordingly.

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Title: Re: which secret character fights the strongest in SSBM?
Post by: Lizard Dude on September 29, 2004, 01:55:02 PM
But a skilled Jigglypuff player would understand this and adapt his strategy accordingly.

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Title: Re: which secret character fights the strongest in SSBM?
Post by: Hirocon on October 02, 2004, 11:50:01 AM
dp

Edited by - Hirocon on 10/2/2004 10:50:31 AM
Title: Re: which secret character fights the strongest in SSBM?
Post by: Hirocon on October 02, 2004, 11:50:01 AM
All the really uber-obsessed players who spend months searching for (and finding) killer tactics that the game designers hadn't even planned know that in a one-on-one match, Sheik rules all.  Sheik has the ability to throw just about any character in the air and grab them again before they have any chance whatsoever of recoving, and can use this tactic over and over again to rake up massive damage against their opponent without any personal risk.  Unless something unexpected happens, like a bob-omb materializing right next to Sheik, Sheik can win every time.  Or so I have heard...
Title: Re: which secret character fights the strongest in SSBM?
Post by: Popple on October 02, 2004, 11:47:53 PM
Yeah, if you want to be cheap, and have all of your friends get mad and not want to play against you for it. An effective strategy isn't always the right strategy.

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Title: Re: which secret character fights the strongest in SSBM?
Post by: CharginChuck on October 10, 2004, 11:24:40 AM
Hey, I may sound ignorant, but exactly how does Jigglypuff's Rest Move work?  I've never really bothered to seriously use Jigglypuff.
Title: Re: which secret character fights the strongest in SSBM?
Post by: Lizard Dude on October 10, 2004, 12:33:34 PM
If you use it while inside of another person, they explode off the screen at super high velocity.



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Title: Re: which secret character fights the strongest in SSBM?
Post by: Sqrt2 on October 11, 2004, 06:59:14 AM
Unless you are playing on Hyrule Temple.

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Edited by - Sqrt2 on 10/11/2004 5:59:31 AM
Title: Re: which secret character fights the strongest in SSBM?
Post by: Monkey Bob on October 13, 2004, 04:38:36 PM
Jigglypuff is the BEST in a giant melee.
But Luigi is No.1!



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Title: Re: which secret character fights the strongest in SSBM?
Post by: Super Mario on October 20, 2004, 06:01:08 PM
In anything, using the same move or strategy over and over not only makes it a cheap, talentless win, but it makes people not want to play with you. Why play you if you always win?


I learned that lesson playing Magic: The Gathering tournaments with people who downloaded deck strategies online and had these super unbeatable decks. *rolls eyes*



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