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Title: SMB2: The boss in most level, what's it? Birdo or Ostro
Post by: thaiirin on March 17, 2005, 08:58:32 AM
I confused about this!
Many people called this Birdo
but
If you beat a game, and watch a ending screen it says it is ostro!
Title: Re: SMB2: The boss in most level, what's it? Birdo or Ostro
Post by: Vidgmchtr on March 17, 2005, 01:17:18 PM
They mixed up the names. It's Birdo.
Title: Re: SMB2: The boss in most level, what's it? Birdo or Ostro
Post by: Ambulance Y on March 17, 2005, 01:37:58 PM
i hate birdo
Title: Re: SMB2: The boss in most level, what's it? Birdo or Ostro
Post by: NintendoExpert89 on March 17, 2005, 05:05:43 PM
Before I had found out Birdo was his/her real name, I always thought Ostro was a more suitable name for an egg-shooting dinosaur just as Birdo was for the running-bird creature.

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Title: Re: SMB2: The boss in most level, what's it? Birdo or Ostro
Post by: Vidgmchtr on March 17, 2005, 09:27:54 PM
Birdo has always been a she, ne89.
Title: Re: SMB2: The boss in most level, what's it? Birdo or Ostro
Post by: Ambulance Y on March 17, 2005, 10:00:46 PM
until now, i've always been confused about birdo's gender
Title: Re: SMB2: The boss in most level, what's it? Birdo or Ostro
Post by: MEGAߥTE on March 17, 2005, 10:59:10 PM
In Japan.
Title: Re: SMB2: The boss in most level, what's it? Birdo or Ostro
Post by: Sqrt2 on March 18, 2005, 02:54:21 AM
In Japan, Birdo has always been known as Catherine so I guess it is NOA's fault as to the confusion about Birdo's gender.

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Title: Re: SMB2: The boss in most level, what's it? Birdo or Ostro
Post by: mariosassitant on March 18, 2005, 09:24:51 AM
I completley agree with ledzeplinrocks on not knowing what gender birdo is


my fat is better than yours
Title: Re: SMB2: The boss in most level, what's it? Birdo or Ostro
Post by: penguinwizard on March 19, 2005, 01:21:37 PM
I think Catherine's a better name for her, if only to confirm gender and not cause confusion between Birdo and Ostro. In the manual for Wario's Woods, her name was Catherine.

I would like Birdo if Nintendo hadn't included that embarrassing voice in Mario Tennis (and any future game with her in it). But strangely, it does seem to fit that Yoshi and Birdo would be tennis partners. Maybe it's that they both have big beaks.
Title: Re: SMB2: The boss in most level, what's it? Birdo or Ostro
Post by: boomstix on March 19, 2005, 02:33:45 PM
Beaks? That's the last thing I would call them. Yoshi has a snout, and Birdo has.. a egg-shooter suctionish type thing. Yeah. Suctionish IS a word. I swear.


I hope.


I pray.

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Title: Re: SMB2: The boss in most level, what's it? Birdo or Ostro
Post by: smfan1085 on March 19, 2005, 09:47:09 PM
Birdo was originally a girl in Japan, but for some reason they changed her to a boy in America. But later on they changed her back to a girl (and I'm glad, let me tell you).

I also think that Catherine would have been a good name for her in America.
Title: Re: SMB2: The boss in most level, what's it? Birdo or Ostro
Post by: Vidgmchtr on March 19, 2005, 10:15:12 PM
I like to go by how Japan did it and consider that Birdo was always a girl...

I don't think I worded that correctly.
Title: Re: SMB2: The boss in most level, what's it? Birdo or Ostro
Post by: Toddathon on March 19, 2005, 11:30:25 PM
they originally posted the idea for Birdo to be a guy who "thinks its a girl and prefers to be called Birdetta", but with all the homophobia over here in North America, they scrapped that idea and turned her into a girl.  tsk tsk.

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Title: Re: SMB2: The boss in most level, what's it? Birdo or Ostro
Post by: BooDestroyer on March 27, 2007, 03:51:04 PM
Actually, because of the name mix-up, Birdo being a "guy" just can't be believed at all.

That was just a simple assumption back when she was a newbie anyways.

Bottom line: instruction manuals suck. For any game, they're often full of crap, weak, and incorrect on many things. Don't trust them.
Title: Re: SMB2: The boss in most level, what's it? Birdo or Ostro
Post by: PaperLuigi on March 27, 2007, 03:52:22 PM
Bottomline: You just bumped a 2 year old topic.
Title: Re: SMB2: The boss in most level, what's it? Birdo or Ostro
Post by: BooDestroyer on March 27, 2007, 03:53:54 PM
Yeah, I'm so not-hardcore now because of having something to say about something. Search function, anyone?

Bottom line: You posted just to say that.
Title: Re: SMB2: The boss in most level, what's it? Birdo or Ostro
Post by: MaxVance on March 27, 2007, 04:05:11 PM
GAH! It's not a bump if the person contributes to the topic, which BooDestroyer did do.

Bottom line: instruction manuals suck. For any game, they're often full of crap, weak, and incorrect on many things. Don't trust them.
I think they've been getting better over time.
Title: Re: SMB2: The boss in most level, what's it? Birdo or Ostro
Post by: The Chef on March 27, 2007, 04:10:19 PM
I think they're worse now.

The artwork usually stinks compared to the old ones, and most of the time the game contains a tutorial that's actually more informative than the manual itself. It's even worse if the manual is in black n' white.
Title: Re: SMB2: The boss in most level, what's it? Birdo or Ostro
Post by: MaxVance on March 27, 2007, 04:16:33 PM
Perhaps that's because no one reads the manuals. But this is a catch-22 in that if gamers do not read the manual, the publishers don't feel motivated to make the manual good, which causes less people to read it. But I've already brought up this issue. (http://themushroomkingdom.net/board/index.php?topic=9811.0)
Title: Re: SMB2: The boss in most level, what's it? Birdo or Ostro
Post by: PaperLuigi on March 27, 2007, 05:32:57 PM
Bottom line: You posted just to say that.

Yeah, I did. Mabey I should just shut up about bumping, because obviously my definition of bumping is way different than your's Max, and in my opinion, he could have said that without bumping up a 2 year old topic.
Title: Re: SMB2: The boss in most level, what's it? Birdo or Ostro
Post by: MaxVance on March 27, 2007, 08:13:24 PM
Just so you know, I use the definition in the rules (http://themushroomkingdom.net/board/index.php?topic=8638.0).

Quote from: Deezer
No bumping for the sake of bumping. Bumping is posting in an inactive thread for the sole purpose of moving it to the top of the list.
Title: Re: SMB2: The boss in most level, what's it? Birdo or Ostro
Post by: PaperLuigi on March 27, 2007, 10:17:53 PM
Oh, so that means I can go bring up some old topics now? That's great! <sarcasm>

I'm just going to stop complaining about it. I mean, there' not much I can do about it, and rules are rules, so whatever.

Anyway, Birdo is a girl. I am sick of people telling me she's a transexual or whatever it's called.

Title: Re: SMB2: The boss in most level, what's it? Birdo or Ostro
Post by: MEGAߥTE on March 28, 2007, 12:13:28 AM
A Japanese individual sent this to us last year, but we haven't gotten around to adding it to the site:

Quote
It's stated in your interesting website that Birdo is female, but it's
a common sense among Japanese Mario fans that Catherine is a male.  I
think it'd be nice if you add some information about that on your
website, like what you did for Vivian.  I was surprised to read that
he's now female in the English versions....
For reference, have you read the description for the Catherine trophy
in SSBM in Japanese mode (which is written by that computer-game-savvy
Mr. Sakurai himself)?  It says "Jibun wo onna-no-ko da to 'omoi-konde'
ori", which roughly means "Catherine 'erroneously' thinks him/herself a
girl".  "Omoi-komu" technically means just "to believe", but this word
tends to be used to indicate suggestively that the belief is wrong.  In
this context the word is in quotation marks, so it is clear for native
speakers that it is being used in that sense.

The SMB2US manual was directly translated into Japanese for SMUSA, including the Birdo quote; so, in fact, it can be very important what goes into those things, jokingly or not.
Title: Re: SMB2: The boss in most level, what's it? Birdo or Ostro
Post by: BooDestroyer on March 28, 2007, 12:20:22 AM
The real question is: are WE Japanese?
Title: Re: SMB2: The boss in most level, what's it? Birdo or Ostro
Post by: The Chef on March 28, 2007, 11:36:00 AM
No, but they are. I like the while "tranny" thing. It makes the Mario universe seem a little more "out there".
Title: Re: SMB2: The boss in most level, what's it? Birdo or Ostro
Post by: BooDestroyer on March 28, 2007, 02:05:31 PM
Prince Peasley sure is something of that nature.
Title: Re: SMB2: The boss in most level, what's it? Birdo or Ostro
Post by: The Chef on March 28, 2007, 05:46:03 PM
Nah, Peasly is what the Japanese would call a bishoujo. Which is known to us as a "prettyboy".
Title: Re: SMB2: The boss in most level, what's it? Birdo or Ostro
Post by: PaperLuigi on March 28, 2007, 06:09:48 PM
Ugh, I hate prettyboys. Yeah, some have a fighting nature, but all of them are just too wimpy to me.
Title: Re: SMB2: The boss in most level, what's it? Birdo or Ostro
Post by: BooDestroyer on March 28, 2007, 06:29:08 PM
No that's bishounen.
Title: Re: SMB2: The boss in most level, what's it? Birdo or Ostro
Post by: Vidgmchtr on March 28, 2007, 07:22:42 PM
Nah, Peasly is what the Japanese would call a bishoujo. Which is known to us as a "prettyboy".

No, bishoujo means "pretty girl". You're calling Peasly a woman, heh.
Title: Re: SMB2: The boss in most level, what's it? Birdo or Ostro
Post by: NintendoExpert89 on March 28, 2007, 07:42:18 PM
I originally thought Birdo was a boy until SMAS, when the bow was added (although the bow is missing in the cast roll at the end).
Title: Re: SMB2: The boss in most level, what's it? Birdo or Ostro
Post by: BP on March 28, 2007, 08:24:12 PM
I never really cared. I was a little kid who was like "omg monster I kill you?" When I first saw the bow on the head, don't know when it was... I didn't even think it any different, like I'd known she was she all the time.
Title: Re: SMB2: The boss in most level, what's it? Birdo or Ostro
Post by: BooDestroyer on March 28, 2007, 09:12:19 PM
I never really cared. I was a little kid who was like "omg monster I kill you?" When I first saw the bow on the head, don't know when it was... I didn't even think it any different, like I'd known she was she all the time.
People should be like this about video games more often.
Title: Re: SMB2: The boss in most level, what's it? Birdo or Ostro
Post by: The Chef on March 29, 2007, 02:06:30 PM
No that's bishounen.

No, bishoujo means "pretty girl". You're calling Peasly a woman, heh.

Whoops. Got them confused.

People should be like this about video games more often.

You're boring.
Title: Re: SMB2: The boss in most level, what's it? Birdo or Ostro
Post by: Bigluigifan1.0 on March 29, 2007, 04:20:34 PM
People should be like this about video games more often.
I agree, of course, when you're young, that sort of thing usually doesn't enter your mind.