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Title: Star Wars Episode III
Post by: Koopaslaya on May 23, 2005, 04:10:59 PM

I am surprised that I have ot start this topic. I rarely do this.

In my opinion, this was the best of the first three. The acting was far superior to Episode II, and the action was great. Unfortunately, the "Epic battle" over Courscant left much to be desired. I won't mention too much so that I do not spoil it for you others. I highly recommend it.

Oh and one cool story. When I went on Friday night, I got into the theatre and these two girls were standing up front and coriographed a lightsaber duel with plastic sabers, it was pretty amising, actually, just because they were really bad.

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Title: Re: Star Wars Episode III
Post by: Screech on May 23, 2005, 05:08:06 PM

I saw it saturday and it was awesome.
I wanted to wear my Jedi costume but time wouldn't allow it. I would have been one-upped anyway by this guy who came as Darth Vader.

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Title: Re: Star Wars Episode III
Post by: Yoshisaurus Rex on May 23, 2005, 05:11:47 PM

I was just thinking about how we need a Star Wars topic here, but I decided to let someone else do it and here it is!  I really loved the movie and wished it was a little longer.  It was extremely sad through the whole thing and just as gorey as people talked about.  This poor little kid in the front row was screaming at the part at the end, and I was like, "Don't bring your kids to this movie, parents!  You want to scare them to death?"

(spoiler) One of my favorite parts was the freaky battle between Obi Wan and Grevious in the middle of the movie.  Holy cow!  Four lightsabers?!  That was cool.  It also explained why he kept coughing which was irritating because I thought he was just a robot.  The last fight also impressed me, but I couldn't help but think "How can they survive for that long when they're a few inches away from lava?!" (/spoiler)

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Edited by - Yoshisaurus Rex on 5/23/2005 4:13:12 PM

Title: Re: Star Wars Episode III
Post by: Koopaslaya on May 23, 2005, 07:23:02 PM

THe movie was like: DON'T HAPPEN! But what happened was inevitable. YOu didn't want it to happen but it did. It was awful. 66... what an evil number.

Title: Re: Star Wars Episode III
Post by: Luigison on May 23, 2005, 08:04:27 PM

Episode III was very boring.  I slept through most of it.  

Title: Re: Star Wars Episode III
Post by: TEM on May 24, 2005, 04:07:52 PM

Not enough explosions to keep your attention, Luigison?

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Title: Re: Star Wars Episode III
Post by: Koopaslaya on May 24, 2005, 04:35:23 PM

YOu slept through most of the other Star Wars then, didn't you? This had more action than ony of them. But I am starting to think after I re-watched IV-VI, EPisode III still can't compete.

Title: Re: Star Wars Episode III
Post by: boomstix on May 24, 2005, 08:40:38 PM

//:SPOILER ALERT:\\

Burn Anakin BURN! Hehehe...

I'm really messed up.

But I still loved that part.

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Title: Re: Star Wars Episode III
Post by: Luigison on May 24, 2005, 08:57:28 PM

I gues TEM and KS aren't dedicated enough to read all of the posts, or maybe I and Watoad are only ones here crazy enough to do it.  Watoad probably only reads mine anyway.  

Title: Re: Star Wars Episode III
Post by: MarlieMoo on May 24, 2005, 11:00:53 PM

I don't know about anybody else, but I loved this movie VERY much. It's so deep and emotional, and also very dark. I know a lot of people still compare the original trilogy to the prequals but now that Episode III is done, I like to think of them all as one. I think that the prequals (especially ep III) make the original trilogy even more understandable and makes all the details more important. I really enjoyed this movie and the Duel. We now know the man behind Darth Vader and the struggle he went through. So, in my opinion, this was a very important movie and makes the Star Wars saga something special. :)

Title: Re: Star Wars Episode III
Post by: Hirocon on May 27, 2005, 11:36:02 PM

<SPOILERS>

As a long-time Star Wars fan I enjoyed the movie greatly.  It had bad acting and bad dialog and plot inconsistencies, but I've learned to live with that sort of thing.

One thing that bugged me, though, was the fight between Yoda and Sidious.  Yoda acted as though he totally lost the battle.  But he DIDN'T totally lose the battle - he knocked Sidious off of his feet several times, and was never seriously injured himself (no lost limbs, which were so plentiful elsewhere in the movie).  The battle seemed more like a stalemate than a victory for Sidious.  I agree that Yoda should have lost the battle, but they should have made it painfully clear that Yoda lost the battle.  Sidious should have dominated Yoda the way he dominated Mace Windu.  I would have liked to see Yoda humbled in a total landslide victory by Sidious, only barely escaping with his life.  I would have liked to see Yoda show fear.  It would have made Sidious seem that much more dangerous, and would have made Darth Vader's role as the one who ultimately defeats Sidious all the more important.

Of course, I don't want to be one of those whiny fanboys who become enraged at George Lucas for doing what he wants to do with his own movies.  The movie was entertaining regardless.  I'm just expressing my thoughts.

</SPOILERS>

Title: Re: Star Wars Episode III
Post by: Chupperson Weird on May 27, 2005, 11:45:48 PM

I thought it was good, and near perfect.

Title: Re: Star Wars Episode III
Post by: Lizard Dude on May 28, 2005, 10:22:09 AM

> Sidious should have dominated Yoda the way he dominated Mace Windu.

Mace Windu actually beat Sidious. It was Anakin who caused Windu's defeat.

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Title: Re: Star Wars Episode III
Post by: HolyAarom on May 28, 2005, 11:11:02 AM

I was lucky. My school went on a trip to the movies on Thursday and I saw it the day it came out. I really liked the part when Anakin
burned but still came bace.

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Title: Re: Star Wars Episode III
Post by: Yoshisaurus Rex on May 28, 2005, 11:23:29 AM

I agree with the part about the fight with Yoda and Sidious.  It seemed more like he wimped out than lost.  But it was sweet how he used the Force to shoot those round seats at him.

But there was one line in the movie that really rubbed me the wrong way.  It was the part where Anakin said, "If you aren't with me, you're against me" and then Obi Wan excalimed, "Only a sith lord deals in absolutes!"  What?  How can you say there are no absolutes in this world?  Is he absolutely sure about that?  I'm sure that many religious people will also find that offensive.

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Title: Re: Star Wars Episode III
Post by: Koopaslaya on May 28, 2005, 12:35:08 PM

I definately read all of the posts in this topic...

Title: Re: Star Wars Episode III
Post by: Hirocon on May 28, 2005, 02:36:47 PM

<SPOILERS>

Oh come now, Lizard Dude.  "Help me!  I'm too weak!  I can't...I can't...I'm too weak..." followed by "UNLIMITED POWER!"  That was totally maniacal, totally diabolical, deliciously evil.  You saw how Sidious slayed something like three Jedi in three seconds?  And you expect me to believe he couldn't finish off one more?  Sidious kept Windu alive and pretended that Windu was winning in order to force Anakin to come to his rescue, thereby committing himself to the dark side.  Sidious could have overpowered Windu at any time if he wanted to.

I agree, Rex, that whole "absolutes" scene had some of the most painfully forced dialog in the movie.

</SPOILERS>

Title: Re: Star Wars Episode III
Post by: Luigison on May 28, 2005, 06:37:46 PM

Episode III Easter Egg Hunt

Title: Re: Star Wars Episode III
Post by: Lizard Dude on May 28, 2005, 08:51:23 PM

After thinking about it, I agree with you, Hirocon.

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Title: Re: Star Wars Episode III
Post by: smfan1085 on May 28, 2005, 08:55:08 PM

You're right, YSR, that "absolutes" line does sound dumb; but the movie itself sounds pretty cool, and I wish I could see it sometime. But I thought I heard one time that it's expected to be released on DVD but not VHS. I don't have a DVD player (though I would if I got a Revolution someday). Could someone fill me in on this?

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Edited by - smfan1085 on 6/28/2005 7:38:01 PM

Title: Re: Star Wars Episode III
Post by: Chupperson Weird on May 28, 2005, 08:55:46 PM

"But there was one line in the movie that really rubbed me the wrong way. It was the part where Anakin said, 'If you aren't with me, you're against me' and then Obi Wan excalimed, 'Only a sith lord deals in absolutes!' What? How can you say there are no absolutes in this world? Is he absolutely sure about that? I'm sure that many religious people will also find that offensive."

I'm sure there are; I was just thinking about this today. I, however, agree with Obi-Wan on this. I don't particularly care to explain this. Context is everything. Sadly, from what I've seen, many "religious" people don't realize that.

smfan1085: VHS is being phased out. Jump on the DVD bandwagon before they introduce the next standard. And, if you want to see Episode III, go watch it in a theater.

Edited by - Chupperson Weird on 5/28/2005 7:59:40 PM

Title: Re: Star Wars Episode III
Post by: Suffix on May 28, 2005, 09:12:04 PM

I saw Episiode III recently, and all I really have to say is that it was persistantly disturbing, but rightfully so.

Title: Re: Star Wars Episode III
Post by: Hirocon on May 30, 2005, 03:39:18 AM

I just had an insight - perhaps Lucas included the "absolutes" scene in ep.III in order to contrast the Sith with the Jedi as portrayed by Obi-wan in his "certain point of view" speech in ep.VI.  They're both stupid scenes, but they complement each other nicely in their stupidity.

Title: Re: Star Wars Episode III
Post by: TEM on May 30, 2005, 07:30:07 AM

I don't see the stupidity in either of those scenes.

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Title: Re: Star Wars Episode III
Post by: MEGAߥTE on May 30, 2005, 07:43:51 AM

I think it was fairly clear -- at least it was to the audience in the Arclight -- that the "if you aren't with me" line was a direct reference to George W. Bush's infamous speech regarding the "war on terror".  Also, Obi-Wan did not say that there are no absolutes.  He basically said that you should not deal only in absolutes.  This should not offend any religious (and if it does, I suggest they reconsider their religion).

Title: Re: Star Wars Episode III
Post by: TEM on May 30, 2005, 07:55:42 AM

Also, I think Mace Windu really DID beat Palpatine in the saber battle.  You hear a reference to Windu's power earlier so it's not so unbelievable that he could take Sidious when the other 2 Jedi were taken out. I do agree that Palpatine was acting weak and feeble when he was electrocuting himself to sway Anakin over the edge. If Anakin hadn't arrived Windu would have killed him.

I read somewhere the Lucas wrote that line prior to George Bush saying his own. Would George Lucas really cheapen the Star Wars saga by using the dialogue to take a shot at the president? I hope not.

Edit: I misspelled Sidious, shame on me.

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Edited by - TEM on 5/30/2005 6:57:35 AM

Title: Re: Star Wars Episode III
Post by: MEGAߥTE on May 30, 2005, 08:20:36 AM

The line was a direct reference.  What was not a direct reference was the general storyline.  He actually based the original story as a commentary against the Vietnam War, only to see similar events taking place now.  As a man with as much influence as George Lucas, he certainly is willing to speak his mind about politics.

"Star Wars is a wakeup call to Americans about the erosion of democratic freedoms under George W. Bush, filmmaker George Lucas said yesterday.

"Lucas, responding to a question from the Sun at a Cannes Film Festival press conference, said he first wrote the framework of Star Wars in 1971 when reacting to then U.S. President Richard Nixon and the on-going events of the Vietnam War. But the story still has relevance today, he said, and is part of a pattern he has noticed in his readings of history.

" 'I didn't think it was going to get quite this close,' he said of the parallels between the Nixon era and the current Bush presidency, which has been sacrificing freedoms in the interests of national security. 'It is just one of those re-occurring things. I hope this doesn't come true in our country. Maybe the film will awaken people to the situation of how dangerous it is.' "

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Edited by - MegaByte on 5/30/2005 7:29:59 AM