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Title: Mario Mario
Post by: Antoshi on September 19, 2005, 02:44:28 AM
Now, before you say anything, I'm sure this has been covered before. There seems to be alot of disbelief as to whether or not Mario and Luigi's last name is Mario. Although I know it's more than likely true, I was wondering if anyone had any sources they could point out or quote to support this?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Mario Mario
Post by: Vidgmchtr on September 19, 2005, 12:37:59 PM
Shigeru Miyamoto supports the theory that Mario and Luigi's last name are Mario.
Title: Re: Mario Mario
Post by: UM+SF on September 19, 2005, 06:45:20 PM
Let me think...um, no. Not one concrete proof. And yet, it seems very plausible.
Title: Re: Mario Mario
Post by: Screech on September 19, 2005, 07:08:35 PM
Nobody's come up with anything better.

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Title: Re: Mario Mario
Post by: Antoshi on September 20, 2005, 02:42:13 AM
Well is there any quotes on the internet somewhere that may prove that Miyamoto confirmed this?
Title: Re: Mario Mario
Post by: Vidgmchtr on September 20, 2005, 12:37:31 PM
From Wikipedia's article on Mario:


"Mario's full name is believed to be Mario Mario, while his brother's full name is believed to be Luigi Mario, thus making them the "Mario Brothers". (This is generally accepted as canon. According to Shigeru Miyamoto, the Mario Bros. movie, and the television series, their surname is Mario, but this has never been officially supported by Nintendo.)"

Title: Re: Mario Mario
Post by: smfan1085 on September 20, 2005, 09:32:22 PM
I've never accepted the thing about his last name being Mario. It just sounds stupid. I don't know if he even has a last name, however silly that sounds. And as it was said before, I've never heard anything official about Mario's last name being Mario.

I also don't know that Mario needs to officially have to do with Brooklyn; the later games seem to suggest that he lives in a world all his own, and I like that idea better.

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Title: Re: Mario Mario
Post by: Antoshi on September 21, 2005, 02:23:12 AM
"From Wikipedia's article on Mario:

"Mario's full name is believed to be Mario Mario, while his brother's full name is believed to be Luigi Mario, thus making them the "Mario Brothers". (This is generally accepted as canon. According to Shigeru Miyamoto, the Mario Bros. movie, and the television series, their surname is Mario, but this has never been officially supported by Nintendo.)""

That's exactly the reason why I'm bringing it up. Because not everyone believes their last name can be Mario.
Title: Re: Mario Mario
Post by: MEGAߥTE on September 21, 2005, 09:18:23 AM
I think it was stated in the recent Nintendo Power with Mario Kart on the cover in a quiz near the end, but I can't confirm because I don't have it with me.
Title: Re: Mario Mario
Post by: Vidgmchtr on September 21, 2005, 12:54:35 PM
Antoshi: Of course not.

I said in my first post that Miyamoto-san supported the THEORY that their last names were Mario. I never said it was a fact that it was.
Title: Re: Mario Mario
Post by: Antoshi on September 21, 2005, 05:18:40 PM
So then, what, there is NO concrete proof anywhere?
Title: Re: Mario Mario
Post by: Ambulance Y on September 21, 2005, 06:38:10 PM
In the Mario Bros. Movie his name was Mario Mario if I'm not mistaken.
Title: Re: Mario Mario
Post by: Vidgmchtr on September 21, 2005, 07:05:24 PM
....Yes, that was said already.
Title: Re: Mario Mario
Post by: smfan1085 on September 21, 2005, 09:49:06 PM
The Mario Bros. movie doesn't define anything about the series. It deviates a lot from the real storyline.

And keep in mind that just because they're called "the Mario Bros." doesn't mean that their last name has to be Mario. They could just be called that after Mario, the more well-known of the two. (I believe Sapphira made that point at some time or other.)

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Edited by - smfan1085 on 9/21/2005 8:49:53 PM
Title: Re: Mario Mario
Post by: Deezer on September 21, 2005, 10:12:14 PM
I think it was stated in the recent Nintendo Power with Mario Kart on the cover in a quiz near the end, but I can't confirm because I don't have it with me.


I just checked, nothing in the quiz.


Even if you want to discount the movie, the title "Mario Brothers" implies that they are brothers sharing the last name "Mario". For example, the Everly Brothers are Don Everly and Phil Everly.

Title: Re: Mario Mario
Post by: smfan1085 on September 23, 2005, 10:15:38 PM
With all due respect, did you read my post above yours?

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Title: Re: Mario Mario
Post by: DeadAwake on September 23, 2005, 10:28:06 PM
Maybe they don't have last names--like Cher, Madonna, and Plato.



 

Title: Re: Mario Mario
Post by: Antoshi on September 23, 2005, 10:45:40 PM
Heh. Cher = Cherilyn Sarkisian, Madonna = Madonna Louise Veronica Ciccone, Plato is a nickname. But that's besides the point.
Title: Re: Mario Mario
Post by: CoconutMikeNIke on September 24, 2005, 11:26:21 PM
That reminds me of a Simpsons quote of Lou, the policeman:

Lou:We don't have last names, we're like Cher.

As for the topic...I have no idea.

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Title: Re: Mario Mario
Post by: Kuroneko on September 25, 2005, 12:35:44 AM
Mario's full name is Mario Alfredo Pasta Marinara Spagetti Jr. End of discussion.

...

Or, perhaps, not.
Title: Re: Mario Mario
Post by: Kirby (cheat wizard) on September 25, 2005, 01:38:22 AM
If Mario's full name is Mario Mario because every one says it is then Link's full name is Link Liknkington.
(Sorry for the poor spelling.)
Title: Re: Mario Mario
Post by: DeadAwake on September 25, 2005, 06:55:15 AM
> Mario's full name is Mario Alfredo Pasta Marinara Spagetti Jr. End of discussion.



:D  Now I'm hungry.



 

Title: Re: Mario Mario
Post by: Antoshi on September 25, 2005, 07:26:43 AM
Wow, this has gone frighteningly off-topic. >_>
Title: Re: Mario Mario
Post by: Markio on September 25, 2005, 10:08:38 AM
No it hasn't.  Go Mario!

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Title: Re: Mario Mario
Post by: BP on September 25, 2005, 03:23:23 PM
*SNAP* I know! He doesn't have a LAST name, but he does have a FULL name: Super Mario! DUH!

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Title: Re: Mario Mario
Post by: MEGAߥTE on September 25, 2005, 05:04:03 PM
> I just checked, nothing in the quiz.


Hmm, well I think it's somewhere because I remember being surprised, thinking it was the first official confirmation outside of the movie...


> And keep in mind that just because they're called "the Mario Bros." doesn't mean that their last name has to be Mario. They could just be called that after Mario, the more well-known of the two. (I believe Sapphira made that point at some time or other.)


That makes no sense.  Do you have an example where this has ever happened?

Edited by - MegaByte on 9/25/2005 4:07:20 PM

Title: Re: Mario Mario
Post by: Watoad on September 25, 2005, 06:09:43 PM
Well, you could call my brothers and me by my first name: "The Errol Bros."! . . . Wow, that sounds really dumb.

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Title: Re: Mario Mario
Post by: Ambulance Y on September 25, 2005, 08:10:39 PM
Errol's a weird name.
Title: Re: Mario Mario
Post by: Markio on September 25, 2005, 08:59:09 PM
I don't really care much about names.  When I go see a movie, I predict everything that happens, but I never remember the character's names.  I'd also prefer if people called me by my first name or internet name instead of my last name, because that implies that I'm being represented by my family and not me.  That's why I don't care what Mario and Luigi's last names are.  Well, OK, I do care, but just out of curiosity, not so I can define Luigi as "Mario's brother".

Errol's a fine name.  I'd rather be named that than ... actually, I think if I was named something, I'd be used to it by now anyway.

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Title: Re: Mario Mario
Post by: BP on September 25, 2005, 10:17:11 PM
C'mon guys, SUPER MARIO!

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Title: Re: Mario Mario
Post by: HolyAarom on September 26, 2005, 03:41:48 PM
Well in one of the cartoons, a paper of Mario's profile was shown.

Name: Mario Mario.

However, In the games, I've never seen his full name.

Mario pwns!
Title: Re: Mario Mario
Post by: smfan1085 on September 27, 2005, 12:20:14 PM
MB and Watoad, I don't know what's the matter with you two. What I said makes plenty of sense for an imaginary, cartoon-like character. (Mickey and Minnie Mouse having the same "last name" doesn't make real-life sense either, does it? Hmm?)

No matter what you guys say, I will not stop believing that his name ISN'T Mario Mario.

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Title: Re: Mario Mario
Post by: BP on September 27, 2005, 05:17:28 PM
You're right, it's Super Mario. That is his full name.
Title: Re: Mario Mario
Post by: Markio on September 27, 2005, 06:08:31 PM
...but they define Mario as "Super" when he's power-up'd by a mushroom.

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Title: Re: Mario Mario
Post by: HolyAarom on September 27, 2005, 06:21:33 PM
True... But now a days, he doesn't need mushrooms to make him grow.

Mario pwns!
Title: Re: Mario Mario
Post by: MEGAߥTE on September 27, 2005, 09:45:56 PM
> What I said makes plenty of sense for an imaginary, cartoon-like character. (Mickey and Minnie Mouse having the same "last name" doesn't make real-life sense either, does it? Hmm?)


Mickey is a MOUSE.  Minnie is a MOUSE.  Their names describe what they are and make perfect sense.  Therefore your example is not relevant.  Try again.



> No matter what you guys say, I will not stop believing that his name ISN'T Mario Mario.


Real fine way to hold an argument.


> You're right, it's Super Mario. That is his full name.


No, it's not.  Every game contradicts this assertion.


I just had some confirmation that "Mario Mario" has been used several times by Nintendo Official Magazine UK.  I'm still trying to track down a US reference, but I found another place that said Nintendo Power said their last names were Mario.  It was probably one from the summer of 1993 around the time of the movie (again, I can't check myself because my Nintendo Powers are on the other side of the country).

Edited by - MegaByte on 9/27/2005 9:20:26 PM

Title: Re: Mario Mario
Post by: DeadAwake on September 27, 2005, 11:58:03 PM
Stop arguing and go play Mario.

 
Title: Re: Mario Mario
Post by: BP on September 28, 2005, 12:01:34 AM
Haha
Title: Re: Mario Mario
Post by: smfan1085 on September 28, 2005, 07:45:37 AM
I don't care what it says in a magazine, even if it is an official one. That's never mentioned in a game, so I don't have to accept it. Even things in instruction booklets don't always have to be considered true (I certainly won't listen to that stuff in the SMB2 manual about Birdo being a transvestite, especially since that was later officially changed in the games (she was called a girl in SSBM)).
Title: Re: Mario Mario
Post by: Vidgmchtr on September 28, 2005, 01:11:58 PM
Birdo was always a girl. I'm fairly sure in the manual of Super Mario USA or even Yume Koujou Doki Doki Panikku says nothing about Birdo being a guy thinking he was a girl.

Early North American instruction manuals = Crap.

If MegaByte says is true (and I'm pretty sure he is telling the truth), and the official magazines come from the people at Nintendo themselves (obviously), then it must be true.

I've always supported the theory (I don't think I can call it that anymore) that Mario and Luigi's last name was Mario, but I never cared about it much to talk about it.
Title: Re: Mario Mario
Post by: smfan1085 on September 29, 2005, 02:45:40 PM
I don't have to consider it true; I can think what I want so long as it doesn't interfere with common sense (like if Mario was called Mario Mario in a game, which he isn't). And the American SMB2 manual does say Birdo is male; I got the manual.

Edited by - smfan1085 on 9/29/2005 1:46:55 PM

Title: Re: Mario Mario
Post by: Vidgmchtr on September 29, 2005, 02:51:17 PM
I know it says that.

When I said "Super Mario USA", I meant "Super Mario USA" as in the Japanese version of the Super Mario Bros. 2 that we got.

Because, as I said before:

Early North American instruction manuals = Crap.
Title: Re: Mario Mario
Post by: MEGAߥTE on September 29, 2005, 04:53:23 PM
> I'm fairly sure in the manual of Super Mario USA or even Yume Koujou Doki Doki Panikku says nothing about Birdo being a guy thinking he was a girl.


The Super Mario USA manual was basically a translation of the SMB2 (US) manual, and thus also contains the gender-bender Birdo reference.  I don't have the DDP manual.
Title: Re: Mario Mario
Post by: Vidgmchtr on September 29, 2005, 06:25:31 PM
Ah, well...

...I really don't have much else to say, other than the fact that I do think Mario's last name is Mario.