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Title: MKDS: Nitro or Retro? *Spoilers*
Post by: Ultima Shadow on December 27, 2005, 02:07:16 AM
Mario Kart DS is in my opinion the best Mario Kart so far, with a total of 32 tracks! Stunning graphics, infinite replay value and a wide cast of characters put it at the top. However, there's one question that's been in my mind for ages- which is better, Nitro GP, or Retro GP?

Nitro GP may have new and interesting courses, but Retro GP puts a new spin on familar faces. You can also say you like both, or neither, or that you like one better but it could be better.

Post your opinions here!
Title: Re: MKDS: Nitro or Retro? *Spoilers*
Post by: BP on December 27, 2005, 02:21:19 AM
I voted both. Nintendo evidently worked hard to make Nitro GP; Waluigi Pinball is far beyond expectations. I liked the music for DK Pass, it's bouncy and sounds... Irish, somehow. The huge jumps in Wario Stadium are great fun. The Rainbow Road for this one added something that Mario Kart's been in need of for a while: Loop-de-loops.

Retro Grand Prix is still good. The fog and falling Cocoa Puffs in Choco Mountain are still there, so are the Mario & Yoshi snowmen in Frappe Snowland. They got rid of the shortcut over the bridge and the Mushroom/Bob-Omb cars in Mushroom Bridge and behind the Chain Chomp in Luigi Circuit (GC), but the Rank A mansion from Luigi's Mansion is still in the background from MKDD. The SNES and GBA tracks must have been easy to reproduce, being simple and flat, but to see the MK64 and MKDD courses in such good shape on the DS is very impressive.
Plus, the old in-game music is relatively untouched; but there is one note in Sky Garden that was given a "pull" if anyone else noticed, and I like it. And one more thing: Those yellow bars are now ramps! The bars that had dash panels in front are dash-panel-ramps. It helps make the game more 3D and maybe more realistic, as I don't really know of anyone who uses yellow bars to jump.
Title: Re: MKDS: Nitro or Retro? *Spoilers*
Post by: HolyAarom on December 27, 2005, 09:22:06 AM
One thing I liked about the Retro is that you can't run over the pipes in Mario circuit 1 with a star unlike in SMK.
Title: Re: MKDS: Nitro or Retro? *Spoilers*
Post by: Bigluigifan1.0 on December 27, 2005, 12:02:27 PM
I liked both, but Retro lacked at least one of the old Rainbow Roads, but the new Rainbow Road was way too awsome, Waluigi Pinball is awsome as well, I loved those pinbally sounds.
Title: Re: MKDS: Nitro or Retro? *Spoilers*
Post by: bobman37 on December 27, 2005, 02:18:39 PM
Meh... I voted Nitro. I really enjoy all the new tracks... even though I only played the N64 and GBA versions previously. Since I'm not familiar with the SNES or GCN versions, some of the retro tracks were new to me, the most fun ones being Luigi Circuit GCN and Baby Park. Nirto feeds me with a bunch of new things, each having its own quirk, although Figure-8 is pretty boring, especially online when I have to snake in order to keep up with the other snakers on that course. I love Yoshi Falls and Luigi Mansion because i know exactly how to race them and which shortcuts are the best. Then there are the obnoxious Nitro courses, like Cheep Cheep Beach and (don't hurt me) Waluigi Pinball, the overly fun ones such as Airship Fortress, Shroom Bridge and Peach Gardens, and the remakes like Wario Stadium, Bowser Castle and Rainbow Road. Still, I think the retro courses are much harder than the nitro. Well that's enough blabbing from me, there's my opinion for you.
Title: Re: MKDS: Nitro or Retro? *Spoilers*
Post by: BP on December 27, 2005, 02:30:46 PM
I bet Deert Hills and Airship Fortress made Yoshi55 happy, since they were based on SMB3. Too bad the Rocky Wrenches don't actually throw wrenches... I wish they'd put Mushroom City in too, it was the only road-based track in any Mario Kart gam with a way for the cars to get on or off the road. Shroom Ridge would've been pretty realistic if there was a way out.
Title: Re: MKDS: Nitro or Retro? *Spoilers*
Post by: Khold on December 27, 2005, 02:32:41 PM
But then again, Mario isn't supposed to be realistic. :P
Title: Re: MKDS: Nitro or Retro? *Spoilers*
Post by: bobman37 on December 27, 2005, 02:34:58 PM
Shroom Ridge does have an off-road shortcut... X_x
Title: Re: MKDS: Nitro or Retro? *Spoilers*
Post by: Khold on December 27, 2005, 02:37:00 PM
It does? I never found it I guess... unless it requires a mushroom, then I know what you're talking about. But if it is, that part wasn't ment to be a shortcut.
Title: Re: MKDS: Nitro or Retro? *Spoilers*
Post by: bobman37 on December 27, 2005, 02:39:02 PM
I don't think it needs a mushroom, I only used it once because I saw it during a race and was like "woah, that looks like a shortcut"... i can't remember if i used a mushroom or not, i don't think i did.
Title: Re: MKDS: Nitro or Retro? *Spoilers*
Post by: Ultima Shadow on December 27, 2005, 03:36:47 PM
Nitro's harder in 50 and 100CC, but I almost destroyed my DS trying to complete 150CC Leaf Cup. Which I did with 38 pts. :)
Title: Re: MKDS: Nitro or Retro? *Spoilers*
Post by: PaperLuigi on December 27, 2005, 04:19:47 PM
Retro, because it reminds me of the old days.
Title: Re: MKDS: Nitro or Retro? *Spoilers*
Post by: HolyAarom on December 27, 2005, 04:41:13 PM
Nitro's harder in 50 and 100CC, but I almost destroyed my DS trying to complete 150CC Leaf Cup. Which I did with 38 pts. :)

I have 40 points on eveything!
Title: Re: MKDS: Nitro or Retro? *Spoilers*
Post by: BP on December 27, 2005, 04:59:16 PM
I had a lot of trouble on 150cc, Flower Cup. Then the rest of the game was a breeze.
Title: Re: MKDS: Nitro or Retro? *Spoilers*
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on December 27, 2005, 10:39:15 PM
Retro, because my beloved Sky Garden makes a triumphant return. But Rainbow Cup owns them both.
Title: Re: MKDS: Nitro or Retro? *Spoilers*
Post by: Khold on December 27, 2005, 10:42:06 PM
Retro, because my beloved Sky Garden makes a triumphant return. But Rainbow Cup owns them both.
Rainbow cup?
Title: Re: MKDS: Nitro or Retro? *Spoilers*
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on December 27, 2005, 10:49:09 PM
It's a secret cup in the game that you can only get if you unlock all of the staff ghosts in time trial.
Title: Re: MKDS: Nitro or Retro? *Spoilers*
Post by: Khold on December 27, 2005, 10:53:26 PM
What does it consist of?
Title: Re: MKDS: Nitro or Retro? *Spoilers*
Post by: BP on December 27, 2005, 11:02:47 PM
Aaaugh, I thought I had everything! Oh well,  I have the staff ghost for Figure 8 Circuit, gotta keep trying...
Title: Re: MKDS: Nitro or Retro? *Spoilers*
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on December 28, 2005, 01:26:17 AM
The Rainbow Cup consists of the 4 previous Rainbow Road tracks....I think.
Title: Re: MKDS: Nitro or Retro? *Spoilers*
Post by: Ultima Shadow on December 28, 2005, 01:30:50 AM
I hope so... because I've never played the MKDD Rainbow Road...

BTW, classic tracks usually take longer to complete than their original versions, right? How long will MK64 Rainbow Road take?? *Faints*
Title: Re: MKDS: Nitro or Retro? *Spoilers*
Post by: BP on December 28, 2005, 03:13:26 AM
The Rainbow Cup consists of the 4 previous Rainbow Road tracks....I think.
You mean you don't have it? Then how do you know it's real?
Title: Re: MKDS: Nitro or Retro? *Spoilers*
Post by: Ultima Shadow on December 28, 2005, 03:18:46 AM
I Googled it, heaps of sites have it on there. Mind you, I tried to unlock Waluigi in Super Circuit once as well as Space Cup...
Title: Re: MKDS: Nitro or Retro? *Spoilers*
Post by: Vidgmchtr on December 28, 2005, 03:43:21 PM
I have a feeling it's not real, as many people have claimed to beat all the staff ghosts and have not gotten anything.

It'd be cool if it really WAS real, yes....
Title: Re: MKDS: Nitro or Retro? *Spoilers*
Post by: BP on December 28, 2005, 05:02:33 PM
It's not on the Wikipedia page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Kart_DS)... I don't believe it's real.
Title: Re: MKDS: Nitro or Retro? *Spoilers*
Post by: bobman37 on December 28, 2005, 05:11:01 PM
the Rainbow Cup is a lie. A big fat lie. Sorry for those who believe. I beat the whole game (check out the Mario Kart DS Contest thread) and there is no special cup. There are pictures on said thread to prove it.
Title: Re: MKDS: Nitro or Retro? *Spoilers*
Post by: Ultima Shadow on December 28, 2005, 05:21:24 PM
Uh, there is a Special Cup, I've beaten it.

However, look- Rainbow Cup!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbow_Cup
Title: Re: MKDS: Nitro or Retro? *Spoilers*
Post by: bobman37 on December 28, 2005, 05:31:28 PM
Um, yeah. Mario kart and rugby are kind of different.
Title: Re: MKDS: Nitro or Retro? *Spoilers*
Post by: Ultima Shadow on December 28, 2005, 05:36:21 PM
Well, at least you can't deny the existence of the Rainbow Cup...
Title: Re: MKDS: Nitro or Retro? *Spoilers*
Post by: bobman37 on December 28, 2005, 05:38:57 PM
Ok, I'll clairfy: In the video game "Mario Kart DS," the rumored Rainbow Cup is not in exsistance. Other, more practical games, such as rugby, may differ.
Title: Re: MKDS: Nitro or Retro? *Spoilers*
Post by: Ultima Shadow on December 28, 2005, 05:40:46 PM
Thank you. *Nods head in agreement*
Title: Re: MKDS: Nitro or Retro? *Spoilers*
Post by: Kuromatsu on December 30, 2005, 02:41:56 PM
both are okay...
Title: Re: MKDS: Nitro or Retro? *Spoilers*
Post by: Lizard Dude on December 30, 2005, 06:20:03 PM
Before seeing this thread, I always wished that there would have been a Rainbow Cup. It would have fit perfectly! Oh well.

I voted Nitro because I generally like experiencing new things more than repeating the old.