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Title: Your Personal Secrets Pertaining To Video Games
Post by: DeadAwake on October 17, 2006, 10:54:49 AM: (https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi2.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy17%2FBucketeer%2FZeldaSecret.gif&hash=f1580eea743de2b65f51912699f8944c7a83bdab)

Who knows, maybe this is a dumb idea--but as a member of this board, I feel duty-bound to liven this place up when there is a drought of fun topics. As you can see, I have attached my First-Post-Picture™ up there to put you in a good, silly mood.

Now, here are the rules: You must share a personal video gaming secret. This means one thing: Nobody else knows about it. Once you share it, it will no longer be a secret. Okay?

But I'm not talking about "hold Down on the white platform and get a whistle" type secrets: Everyone knows those. I'm talking about secrets like the following--broadcast for the first time ever to you, the fine readers of TMK...

GAME: Mickey Mouse's Magical Quest. LEVEL: Fire.

It's been a good... well, ten years since I've played this game, but I can remember the secret clear as day. Mid-way through the level, there is a series of platforms above a lava pit. At this point, I invariably think of the cute girl named Allison from my third grade class and how I should buy her a phone to win her over. Why? Well, I remember the first time it happened: I must've been 9 years old... During this tricky maneuver, the stress had built up and my mind sort of released itself for a split second--like a bullet from the chamber--and the first place it went was Mickey Mouse merchandise. From there, I recalled a J.C. Penney catalog with an entire section dedicated to Mickey Mouse merchandise, and I remembered how expensive and therefore high-quality it must have been. I remembered the cute girl Allison having such things in her room--but she didn't have a phone. I knew from Clarissa Explains It All that girls LOVE phones, and that Allison would probably fall in love with me if I bought her an expensive Mickey Mouse phone, because girls also love things that match what they already have.

I promise you that, to this very day, if I were to play the Fire Level, I would unwilling think that thought--plucked straight from a 9-year-old's brain.

BONUS SECRET:

When my brother wonders aloud, "How the heck did our GameCube controllers go bad like that," and I respond, "I don't know," I am a BIG, FAT LIAR because I broke them myself during a frustrating SSBM match. Nobody suspects it, because they don't think I'm the type to throw things.
Title: Re: Your Personal Secrets Pertaining To Video Games
Post by: Glorb on October 17, 2006, 05:40:47 PM: 1. After losing for the nth time in the mission "Death Row" in GTA Vice City, I went insane and ripped out the controler, swung it over my head like a lasso, threw it into the walls, stomped on it, attempted to set it on fire, and yelled profanities at it. When I cooled off a few minutes later and tried again, the controller worked fine, maybe even better than before. Man, those PS2 controllers are durable.

2. While playing most games, I like to pretend that the game is about zombies. I don't really know why.
Title: Re: Your Personal Secrets Pertaining To Video Games
Post by: TEM on October 17, 2006, 05:45:31 PM: When I was 7 I chewed through the rubber on a SNES controller wire and blamed it on my friend Sarah. Sorry Sarah :(.
Title: Re: Your Personal Secrets Pertaining To Video Games
Post by: Glorb on October 17, 2006, 05:51:49 PM: Ny-wha?! You chewed through an SNES controller? Man, you must've had strong teeth.
Title: Re: Your Personal Secrets Pertaining To Video Games
Post by: Suffix on October 17, 2006, 05:55:21 PM: No, the SNES controller's wire. Not the body itself.

I'd share if my memory were that str-- Oh wait. I cried for about ten minutes from frustration after repeatedly (as in, more than six times) failing the Krazoa Test of Fear in Star Fox Adventures. That thing was seriously hard.
Title: Re: Your Personal Secrets Pertaining To Video Games
Post by: Vidgmchtr on October 17, 2006, 06:11:24 PM: Funny, I've never cried in frustration playing Starfox Adventures, and I found the Test of Fear to be simple.

It was the LightFoot Test of Strength that had me shouting obscenities for days on end (took at least half a month to finally get that done in my first play-through).

I've only thrown one GCN controller in frustration. I laughed about it once the control stick on it finally broke. I was more upset over throwing my green N64 controller to the point that a few things inside of it broke and it became unresponsive....I did cry when that happened.
Title: Re: Your Personal Secrets Pertaining To Video Games
Post by: Pt_Peach on October 17, 2006, 06:36:38 PM: Heh, those Haunted Woods on Paper Mario scared me, and I refused to play the game when my sisters wanted to watch. I told them that it was to hard. I lied. Everything in those woods scared me and I put up the game for more than half a year. I would look at the game every now and then and refuse to play it. I was 11 years old.

I've thrown my gamecube controller more than once. I yelled at it because all of the sudden, Mario started going where he wanted to in PM:TTYD. He was out of my control and I got mad and freaked out.
Title: Re: Your Personal Secrets Pertaining To Video Games
Post by: PaperLuigi on October 17, 2006, 06:42:05 PM: Hehe. This sounds fun.

When I finally beat Bonetail, I threw my controller up into the air and began to pound my chest like a madman. My mother came in and was like, "What the heck is wrong with you?" I felt so embarassed, but I still feel pretty good about beating that sucker.
Title: Re: Your Personal Secrets Pertaining To Video Games
Post by: Robert on October 17, 2006, 07:19:27 PM: Way back when I was younger, I bought Luigi's Mansion for the gamecube. I thought I'd pick it up 'cuz it was a critically acclaimed title. However, I never played it. Why? Because I was too much of a coward to risk getting scared. Yah, I was a baby back then. I still am a little bit, but I've improved enough that I most likely would've played it now.

To bad I lost that game, SMS, SSBM and others during a move. :(
Title: Re: Your Personal Secrets Pertaining To Video Games
Post by: Chupperson Weird on October 17, 2006, 09:19:14 PM: People who throw their controllers are just wasting money.
Don't waste money, kids.

I very rarely feel frustration from games, because you can't be good at a game until you've tried something enough to get past it.
Title: Re: Your Personal Secrets Pertaining To Video Games
Post by: smfan1085 on October 18, 2006, 09:19:23 AM: I get frustrated a lot in games, but I've never thrown a controller.

That's probably mostly because I don't have a habit of taking out anger on inanimate objects.
Title: Re: Your Personal Secrets Pertaining To Video Games
Post by: Luigison on October 18, 2006, 09:58:40 AM: So you take out anger on animate objects? I've never got angry at or about a game. I can only think of three times I've ever really been angry.
Title: Re: Your Personal Secrets Pertaining To Video Games
Post by: PaperLuigi on October 18, 2006, 03:47:51 PM: First of all, I did not throw my controller in anger.
Second, I am not a kid.

New Secret: My brother and I play SSBM all the time. One day, I put the damage ratio up to 2.0 (while raising my handicap a little higher than his) without him watching, and when he came back, I started the match. He couldn't figure out why I was beating him so easily. I never told him what happened, or why I killed him in 2 shots.
Title: Re: Your Personal Secrets Pertaining To Video Games
Post by: HolyAarom on October 18, 2006, 04:50:36 PM: Even if the first secret isn't really secret, I'll share it.

I'm sure lots of people already know this, but I'm afraid of Like Likes from Zelda.

I like to disconnect on Wi-Fi when I'm winning for some reason.

I cheated on SMS by coping my friend's file to get all the Blue Coins. (I couldn't find 1. Just 1 more but no luck.)
Title: Re: Your Personal Secrets Pertaining To Video Games
Post by: Markio on October 18, 2006, 04:57:13 PM: I never played the Big Boo's Haunt level until I was maybe eleven, because it scared me.

As for Pokemon, I got them in 1998... I beat Pokemon Red in 2005, and Pokemon Blue in 2006. And by "beat" I mean defeated the elite four and stuff, not catch all the pokemon and all that. I always play Pokemon for weeks in a row at some point in the year, usually summer or Christmas vacation, or just springtime in general. I've never beaten my Pokemon Yellow or Silver...
Title: Re: Your Personal Secrets Pertaining To Video Games
Post by: Glorb on October 18, 2006, 06:00:18 PM: Heh, this is amusing.

When I was a wee lad, I had an irrational fear of organ music (probably the whole "Phantom of the Opera" feel). Thus, I could never touch a Castlevania game. Later, when I overcame my Organmusicophobia, I would never touch a Castlevania game because they were brain-explodingly hard. I finally went back to them around 2000; to this day the only CV game I've finished was Symphony of the Night back in 2001.
Title: Re: Your Personal Secrets Pertaining To Video Games
Post by: The Chef on October 18, 2006, 06:07:51 PM: Certain parts of Luigi's Mansion scare me. Most notably when the chandilier falls on you and the sound of a ghost comes up up even though there aren't supposed to be any ghosts in lit rooms. *shivers*
Title: Re: Your Personal Secrets Pertaining To Video Games
Post by: Vidgmchtr on October 18, 2006, 06:40:06 PM: The fact that people were SCARED of things in Luigi's Mansion amuses me.

The times I rented it, I've never found any parts of it scary at all.
Title: Re: Your Personal Secrets Pertaining To Video Games
Post by: Pt_Peach on October 18, 2006, 08:59:24 PM: I'm afraid of the flaming skulls in LOZ:WW. They're super freaky.
Title: Re: Your Personal Secrets Pertaining To Video Games
Post by: Suffix on October 18, 2006, 10:09:30 PM: Vidgmchtr, stop belittling people for things that scare them! You're just being a bother making remarks like that. Why, I ought to mention that the LightFoot Test of Strength was the easiest "challenge" I ever completed in that game! (seriously, it takes me less than 4 seconds to push that "musclefoot" guy over the edge.)
Title: Re: Your Personal Secrets Pertaining To Video Games
Post by: Vidgmchtr on October 18, 2006, 11:20:57 PM: Quote from: Suffix on October 18, 2006, 10:09:30 PM
Vidgmchtr, stop belittling people for things that scare them! You're just being a bother making remarks like that.

You know I honestly don't believe I was belittling them. I said that the fact that people were scared of things in the game was amusing to me. It's not like I was telling them they're stupid for being scared of something in a Mario game.

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Why, I ought to mention that the LightFoot Test of Strength was the easiest "challenge" I ever completed in that game! (seriously, it takes me less than 4 seconds to push that "musclefoot" guy over the edge.)

Good for you. I'm not a strong button-masher. I literally needed the aid of a tool (a pencil, or more recently, the tool that was supposed to remove food from behind the wires of my braces) to complete that task.

As for my easy completion of the Test of Fear, all I did was look at the bar, with my finger on top of the control stick at all times, quickly shifting it whenever the red line quickly started moving off of the green area. Not too difficult.
Title: Re: Your Personal Secrets Pertaining To Video Games
Post by: Suffix on October 18, 2006, 11:25:16 PM: Vid, I believed you were belittling them, and I believed you were belittling me. Also, I'm sure there was some point in Luigi's Mansion where I was scared at some point, out of surprise or anxiety (see: near-end of Boolossus).
Title: Re: Your Personal Secrets Pertaining To Video Games
Post by: Markio on October 19, 2006, 06:56:18 AM: Well, I was noticing that Vid was saying that other people's fears amused him, but then again, Vid is also amused by carnivorous insects, so I don't think there's reason to mind the fact that Vid is often amused.

I rented Luigi's Mansion once, and it was fun and all, my brother got all the way to Melody, but to be honest... the Game Boy Horror scared me. I mean, when you point it at a mirror and everything starts moving--GAH! But I don't think sharing something that I find scary is much of a secret...
Title: Re: Your Personal Secrets Pertaining To Video Games
Post by: Luigison on October 19, 2006, 09:39:54 AM: I sold a nonworking Chrono Trigger cart to Game Stop.
Title: Re: Your Personal Secrets Pertaining To Video Games
Post by: Glorb on October 19, 2006, 12:53:14 PM: Naughty.

Now, this is the first time I've ever told anyone this. A few years back, I went to gameStop to sell a few N64 games. This was back when they had a big selection of used N64 carts both on a rack in a big bin. Discreetly, I picked up a few ones I was sure to get big bucks for, took off the price tags, went up sold them their own merchandise. Score! Still, I feel sorta guilty about it.
Title: Re: Your Personal Secrets Pertaining To Video Games
Post by: Pt_Peach on October 19, 2006, 01:37:09 PM: That's dirty, Glorb.
Title: Re: Your Personal Secrets Pertaining To Video Games
Post by: SolidShroom on October 19, 2006, 01:50:27 PM: Well, for some reason I tried to post here two days ago, but I couldn't so I'll say it now.
In Star Fox Adventures, the test of fear was extremely easy, but the test of strength took me months to beat. I had to use the help of a friend for that one.
Title: Re: Your Personal Secrets Pertaining To Video Games
Post by: Luigison on October 19, 2006, 03:32:08 PM: Quote from: pt_peach on October 19, 2006, 01:37:09 PM
That's dirty, Glord.
Glord? That's nearly as funny as TEM's Christ Farley.
Title: Re: Your Personal Secrets Pertaining To Video Games
Post by: Glorb on October 19, 2006, 03:41:14 PM: I'm not sure why, but "Glord" sounds cool.
Title: Re: Your Personal Secrets Pertaining To Video Games
Post by: Pt_Peach on October 19, 2006, 03:47:54 PM: Edited. Everyone always catches my mistakes. XD I don't mind, though. Glord rhymes with Lord. Back on Topic.

I choked my little brother when he tore my animal crossing game booklet.
Title: Re: Your Personal Secrets Pertaining To Video Games
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on October 19, 2006, 06:21:08 PM: I hate and absolutely stand against the use of Gamesharks and Action Replays, yet have no problem using sharked Master Balls to capture legendaries in Pokemon.

How's that?
Title: Re: Your Personal Secrets Pertaining To Video Games
Post by: TEM on October 19, 2006, 06:35:54 PM: Quote from: pt_peach on October 19, 2006, 03:47:54 PM
I choked my little brother when he tore my animal crossing game booklet.

Christ Farley! You need to get that anger under control.
Title: Re: Your Personal Secrets Pertaining To Video Games
Post by: GiftedGirl on October 19, 2006, 07:29:30 PM: I could only beat Sonic Adventure whilst wearing an orange hat adorned with McDonald's The Dog keychains. Sadly, I lost that hat in DC over the summer. T_T
Title: Re: Your Personal Secrets Pertaining To Video Games
Post by: CoconutMikeNIke on October 19, 2006, 07:47:07 PM: I used to let my sister win at Mario Kart 64 by telling her that my karts engine failed. I stopped doing that when she could beat me fair and square.
Title: Re: Your Personal Secrets Pertaining To Video Games
Post by: smfan1085 on October 19, 2006, 08:39:01 PM: Quote from: Luigison on October 18, 2006, 09:58:40 AM
So you take out anger on animate objects?

I often just don't take it out on anything, though in video games sometimes I yell out insults at annoying bad guys and stuff.
Title: Re: Your Personal Secrets Pertaining To Video Games
Post by: Glorb on October 20, 2006, 09:56:41 AM: I do the same. One of my favorite bad guy insults is "monkey-licker". I came up with that one completely at random.

Quote from: CoconutMikeNIke on October 19, 2006, 07:47:07 PM
I used to let my sister win at Mario Kart 64 by telling her that my karts engine failed. I stopped doing that when she could beat me fair and square.

Aw, that's nice. I did the opposite - I'd half-unplug my sister's controllers in certain games and tell her that something was wrong with her character. Wait a minute...I did that? And I sold GameStop their own games? Man, I'm a jerk.
Title: Re: Your Personal Secrets Pertaining To Video Games
Post by: Pt_Peach on October 20, 2006, 11:04:07 AM: I used to leave half the plug out of my little sisters, too, because she started beating me in SSBM. That ticked me off, and I had a bad attitude about it and half unplugged her controller.

Oh yeah. I'm afraid of that pyramid in Paper Mario. It's freaky!
Title: Re: Your Personal Secrets Pertaining To Video Games
Post by: Glorb on October 20, 2006, 12:48:25 PM: That pyramid just annoyed me. All triangular and stuff...
Title: Re: Your Personal Secrets Pertaining To Video Games
Post by: The Chef on October 20, 2006, 02:17:31 PM: I used to read strategy guides like novels all the time. That's the only way I was ever able to beat any games.

There, I finally said it.
Title: Re: Your Personal Secrets Pertaining To Video Games
Post by: Chupperson Weird on October 20, 2006, 05:03:28 PM: Luigi's Mansion has some genuinely creepy moments.
Quiet, Vid.
Title: Re: Your Personal Secrets Pertaining To Video Games
Post by: Vidgmchtr on October 20, 2006, 05:36:46 PM: I'm definitely not trying to be rude/insulting when I say that people being scared of stuff in Luigi's Mansion is amusing to me.

So, please STOP accusing me of being rude, I don't care who you are.
Title: Re: Your Personal Secrets Pertaining To Video Games
Post by: The Chef on October 20, 2006, 06:23:40 PM: Fine I'll list as many things in LM that I thought was scary as I can:

-The chandilier thing I posted before.
-The Chauncy boss battle.
-When you search a mirror with the GBH and get warped back to the Foyer.
-Using the GBH in a room with one of the Gallery Ghosts uncaught.
-Any of the rooms where inanimate objects fling themselves at you.
-The room with Sue Pea.
-The Blackout after the Boolossus boss battle.
-Any room where you have to fight the Grabby Ghosts you can only see in a mirror.
-Trying to catch all the ghosts in the Sealed room without accidently opening the chests.*
-When you vaccum the projection screen in the Movie Room and the 'Get Out' picture appears.
-Being able to walk around and search within the first few feet of King Boo's room without him seeing you.

* This one really wasn't scary so much as nerve-wracking.
Title: Re: Your Personal Secrets Pertaining To Video Games
Post by: Suffix on October 20, 2006, 07:00:05 PM: Yeah, the mirror-only ghosts can make you shiver pretty badly if they appear suddenly. I forgot about the blackout, that got bad at some points. I remember almost being paralyzed when I fought the separate parts that made Boolossus.
Title: Re: Your Personal Secrets Pertaining To Video Games
Post by: BP on October 20, 2006, 07:45:53 PM: Most of those mentioned parts of the game I thought of as pure awesomeness. Thanks for tormenting my desire to play Luigi's Mansion.
Title: Re: Your Personal Secrets Pertaining To Video Games
Post by: Pt_Peach on October 20, 2006, 07:58:14 PM: I'd give you my copy...if I knew you.
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Post by: BP on October 20, 2006, 09:34:15 PM: ...I have a copy. GameCube is death.
Title: Re: Your Personal Secrets Pertaining To Video Games
Post by: GiftedGirl on October 22, 2006, 06:27:07 AM: Quote from: The Chef on October 18, 2006, 06:07:51 PM
Certain parts of Luigi's Mansion scare me. Most notably when the chandilier falls on you and the sound of a ghost comes up up even though there aren't supposed to be any ghosts in lit rooms. *shivers*

Ooh, that gave me the creeps every time. *shivers*
Title: Re: Your Personal Secrets Pertaining To Video Games
Post by: Mr. Melee on October 22, 2006, 08:06:28 AM: I once got very mad at Pokemon Pinball and proceeded to throw it across the room. However, it hit a giant pillow, and still worked fine. Thank Nintendo for durable products.
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Post by: Vidgmchtr on October 22, 2006, 11:41:45 AM: You're making it sound as if it hit a wall of spikes rather than a giant pillow.

If it hit a huge soft thing, expect that it still works. Works with any product, doesn't have to be Nintendo's.
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Post by: NintendoExpert89 on October 22, 2006, 12:37:17 PM: When I first had SMRPG as a seven-year-old, I initially thought Booster was a woman (his overcoat looked like a dress), and Valentina was a man (her dress looked like a beard).
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Post by: Lizard Dude on October 22, 2006, 01:41:15 PM: Valentina a man? Never saw that one coming.
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Post by: MaxVance on October 22, 2006, 02:54:24 PM: I always thought Valentina looked as if she came from some odd painting.
Title: Re: Your Personal Secrets Pertaining To Video Games
Post by: Chupperson Weird on October 22, 2006, 09:13:55 PM: You know, something I come across all too often on the Internet is people thinking they can acquit themselves of any wrongdoing by saying stuff like "I wasn't trying to be rude, so therefore I wasn't being rude and I didn't do anything wrong and leave me alone." This thought process is faulty. People can be plenty rude and insulting without ever meaning to.
Title: Re: Your Personal Secrets Pertaining To Video Games
Post by: Luigison on October 22, 2006, 10:32:06 PM: Quote from: Chupperson Weird on October 22, 2006, 09:13:55 PM
You know, something I come across all too often on the Internet is people thinking they can acquit themselves of any wrongdoing by saying stuff like "I wasn't trying to be rude, so therefore I wasn't being rude and I didn't do anything wrong and leave me alone." This thought process is faulty. People can be plenty rude and insulting without ever meaning to.
I wasn't trying to be rude in the "Always" post I just made to you in the manual thread.

Anyway, it's probably not much of a secret, but my "Wiimote-Controlled Sword Video and Contests for free Wii & Red Steel stuff!" (http://themushroomkingdom.net/board/index.php?topic=9807.0) thread here is just a viral marketing campaign for Red Steel through DojoofPain.com. I'm currently number one there with 5025 stars. I could easily double that if I had a good idea and could make a YouTube video for Red Steel. If anyone here is a member let me know and we can help each other get stars.
Title: Re: Your Personal Secrets Pertaining To Video Games
Post by: Vidgmchtr on October 22, 2006, 10:35:35 PM: Quote from: Chupperson Weird on October 22, 2006, 09:13:55 PM
You know, something I come across all too often on the Internet is people thinking they can acquit themselves of any wrongdoing by saying stuff like "I wasn't trying to be rude, so therefore I wasn't being rude and I didn't do anything wrong and leave me alone." This thought process is faulty. People can be plenty rude and insulting without ever meaning to.

This is most likely due to the fact that text has no emotion.
Title: Re: Your Personal Secrets Pertaining To Video Games
Post by: Luigison on October 22, 2006, 11:02:06 PM: I don't think it's because of emotionless text or because it's on the internet. I've noticed more of what I'd call a "It's the thought that counts" generation.
Title: Re: Your Personal Secrets Pertaining To Video Games
Post by: Fifth on October 22, 2006, 11:48:54 PM: Welllll...
One time when I was in a particularly foul mood, I made the mistake of playing Mario Kart DS on WiFi. I ended up getting pretty frustrated and, well... sorta bit my DS. I managed to keep myself from biting too hard, but it still left a slight mark.

A case of compounding mood (happiness begets happiness, frustration begets frustration), I'm afraid.
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Post by: Luigison on October 22, 2006, 11:55:02 PM: At least it was only a bit. A full byte would have been much worse.
Title: Re: Your Personal Secrets Pertaining To Video Games
Post by: DeadAwake on October 23, 2006, 12:47:01 AM: Quote from: PaperLuigi on October 17, 2006, 06:42:05 PM
Hehe. This sounds fun.

When I finally beat Bonetail, I threw my controller up into the air and began to pound my chest like a madman. My mother came in and was like, "What the heck is wrong with you?" I felt so embarassed, but I still feel pretty good about beating that sucker.
Ahaha, oh I love this because I did basically the same thing. It really was an amazing feeling.
Title: Re: Your Personal Secrets Pertaining To Video Games
Post by: GiftedGirl on October 23, 2006, 08:25:52 AM: When I was a novice gamer, Dark Matter and Waddle Doo(the N64 versions) scared the crap outta me. I didn't wanna go out at night because "it looks like that black eyeball thing from Kirby!" Mom and Dad threatened that I would never play video games again if it kept up, so I learned to stop being scared.
Title: Re: Your Personal Secrets Pertaining To Video Games
Post by: Glorb on October 23, 2006, 09:52:44 AM: Whenever I play any game where you drive a vehicle and has background music I like, I tend to make the vehicle swerve to the music. I do it a lot with the GTA games.

When I was playing Mercenaries, one activity that consumed my time was throwing cars into the environment. I would get in a helicopter, lower the winch, and whenever a light civilian car came along, I'd hook it, spin my helicopter a few times to gain momentum, and then release it, hurling the car into either a mountain or body of water. Best part is, you don't get penalized for killing civilians since you didn't directly attack them.
Title: Re: Your Personal Secrets Pertaining To Video Games
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on October 23, 2006, 07:28:19 PM: More secrets:

This one's similar to DeadAwake's first post, in that whenever I play any minigame in Mario Party 3, it brings back memories of my old hamster. Probably because I got both of those in the same year, and they were practically my life back in 2001 (there were a few other things, but those two really stand out to me).

Another secret is I usually use a female in RPGs. Yes, most seem weak at the beginning but they can greatly improve as you go throught the game. Plus it's funny to see the reactions of other people when I take them on in say, Pokemon, and they're like "Why are you using the girl trainer?" which is usually followed by laughing or accusations of something.
Title: Re: Your Personal Secrets Pertaining To Video Games
Post by: Suffix on October 23, 2006, 09:46:31 PM: Well, Mr. Wiggles, I must say that you using the female trainer is kind of weird in Pokemon. From most perspectives, I would say. I wouldn't make accusations, but I would definitely laugh.
Title: Re: Your Personal Secrets Pertaining To Video Games
Post by: AbercrombieBaseball on October 23, 2006, 10:00:09 PM: Mr. Wiggles: I'm the same way with Peach in MarioKart. I've had the game since 1997 and my friends used to always poke fun of me for using her. But I've found I'm actually good with Peach--she's fast and handles well.

So I'll go through the games I have and see what secrets I can come up with:

Super Mario 64: On the water levels I've found you can get cheap life if you go under the water and come right back up even if your damage wasn't from being underwater. It's the only way I beat that one with all the faucet taps in it.

Mario Kart 64: Not only do I use Peach, I also am big on laying bananas in certain places. I've found that there's a hill about 3/4 of the way through the stadium where you can get guys to fall if they slip on one, there's a place like that on the Bowser castle as well when you come up the bridge. I also have found that mushrooms can be used to blast through a tunnel on the beach and to get up that rugged off-road terrain of the Peach castle circuit that most people seem to fall into except the computer players. There's also the jump on the stadium that has probably already been discussed here, most people I play against seem to know what it is but not everyone uses it (I try it a lot, I have about a 50% success rate). I consider MarioKart 64 to be my best game.

Mario Kart Double Dash: My secret here is to play at 50cc if I want any chance of winning. I'm that bad at this game. It's fun but I'm just not very good!

Madden: To win here you really need to have a good knowledge of football. I might not be the best at playing the game but I know my formations pretty well, especially on offense. If I could just execute them a bit better on the controller I'd be a champ. Don't always go with what Madden recommends, either. Rule #1 is that you need a good mix of run and pass. And don't be afraid to try gadget plays or different formations (like one with two halfbacks). My biggest strategy, though, is using the QB sneak for a cheap one yard run. I've gotten out of some sticky situations with this. The defense doesn't seem to anticipate it unless you're at the goal line but even there I get it in 8 of 10 times.

Baseball (any baseball game): I've played more baseball games than anything and have more tips on this than anything else. I'll use MVP Baseball 2005 here since I play it the most now. First, you need to pick a solid team that has a good mix of hitting, pitching, and defense. If you lag in one area make sure you can support yourself somewhere else. My teams tend to have weak benches as a result of me spending all my money on starting pitching and solid hitters. You will also want to find a solid closer--preferably a guy who throws a good fastball. When playing, keep an eye on the pitcher's number of pitches. Anything above 110 warrants removal if he looks tired (you can tell when his control gets off). Some guys can last longer than others, check the stamina attribute. Make sure you have both a lefty and a righty in the pen at the same time if you aren't sure when you need to bring a guy in since a lefty batter is more likely to fail against a lefty pitcher.

Your lineup should be arranged something like this:
1st: Guy who gets on a lot, walks a lot, can steal some bases
2nd: Needs to be able to bunt, speed is nice, usually a decent contact guy
3rd: Your best all around player, hits for average with occasional power
4th: Put your biggest HR threat here
5th: This usually goes to your other big HR threat
6th: This guy, to me, is the "lite" version of the #3 hitter--all around type of guy
7th: Put your weakest hitter in this spot unless you're playing with an AL team
8th: On NL teams, put a good contact guy here
9th: With an NL team, this is your pitcher, with an AL team, your weakest hitter

Also, alternate your lefty and righty batters in the middle of the lineup. It makes it tougher on the other team's bullpen late in the game.

Pitching-wise, you want your best starter as the "ace", a solid second, third, and fourth starter, and a fifth starter who you aren't afraid to skip now and then in the rotation. Try to go righty-lefty-righty-lefty-righty (or the other way around) if possible. Even if you are unbalanced (like only one lefty, for example) make sure he's somewhere to break up the righties (if I have one lefty I usually put him second).

In your bullpen, you will have to decide if you want six or seven guys. Go with a seventh if you have young and inconsistent starting pitchers. One guy is your closer (usually your best fastballer, he comes in during the ninth), two are the setup men (a righty and a lefty who come in during the eighth), you need two or three middle relievers (they pitch in the sixth or seventh if a starter can't go that long), and you need a "mop up man" who comes in if your starter gets killed (i.e. gives up three home runs in the third). He needs to last for a few innings and also can sub for a starter who needs to miss a day due to injury.

Finally, your bench. You want at least one solid lefty batter and one solid righty. You will have either five or six guys depending on how many are in your bullpen. One of those is a backup catcher, you usually want two infielders, two outfielders, and if you have six guys, either a third outfielder or a guy who plays both outfield and 1B.

If you want any other baseball tips let me know!

Tetris: This is on my computer, but I usually leave a large opening and wait for that long piece to come down.
Title: Re: Your Personal Secrets Pertaining To Video Games
Post by: The Chef on October 24, 2006, 02:16:58 PM: This is a topic for personal secrets, not advice!
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Post by: TEM on October 24, 2006, 02:52:39 PM: He'll find any reason to go off on a pointless tangent.
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Post by: Glorb on October 24, 2006, 04:50:07 PM: Well, I wouldn't call it pointless, but yeah, the Tetris and Mario 64 hints are extremely obvious.
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Post by: SushieBoy on October 25, 2006, 07:06:19 PM: One time, while playing MP3, I would cry at that song were the Eternal Star leaves, and it (spoilers) turns out to be a fake! Or in other music that I cry is the music from Sonic Adventure 2: Battle while in the chao garden, in the huge GBA, it gives you the option to abandon your chao, the music is just heart-breaking, yeah, lame.
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Post by: Suffix on October 26, 2006, 04:02:18 PM: Back in elementary school, I once cried at the end of SM64 because "it's got this great, happy music, but it's over!"

I went on to beat SM64 four times, beating the last Bowser stage more than 40. I seemed to enjoy that game.
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Post by: Kojinka on October 26, 2006, 04:29:56 PM: Some of you might already know this, but for those that don't, when I first started playing the Zelda games (OoT was my first Zelda game), everything about the Shadow Temple freaked me out with its undead monsters, giant rotating scythes and guillotines, and bottomless pits. I just hated that temple. Also on OoT, those great fairies scare me, and I mean they still scare me. But I guess they scare quite a few gamers.

No offense, but I never really found Luigi's Mansion to be all that scary. I'll admit that some parts did freak me out a little, but it was nothing compared feeling I sometimes get when I go through the Shadow Temple or the Bottom of the Well on LoZ: Ocarina of Time.
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Post by: NintendoExpert89 on October 26, 2006, 09:17:23 PM: I've played Luigi's Mansion more than 30 times, and Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time more than 10.
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Post by: CrzyFlmngMnkyHead on October 27, 2006, 03:26:52 PM: ... I have every Call of Duty game that's currently in production. 3 for PC, and 2 for Xbox. And I'm going to get Call of Duty 3 for the Wii.

And... I've played and beaten Call of Duty 2 on every difficulty setting (Easy, Normal, Hardend, Veteren).

I also have every Gameboy Advance ever made (Advance, Advance SP, Micro), and every Nintendo DS ever made (DS, DS lite).
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Post by: SushieBoy on October 27, 2006, 05:01:10 PM: Haha! You finally confessed!!
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Post by: GiftedGirl on November 10, 2006, 08:52:23 PM: I always give my Pokemon corny nicknames. Example: Caterpie = Pie, Cat or just Bug
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Post by: Pt_Peach on November 10, 2006, 11:57:47 PM: If I like the music in a video game, I leave the video game on without playing it on a certain part.

Quote from: Glorb on October 23, 2006, 09:52:44 AM
Whenever I play any game where you drive a vehicle and has background music I like, I tend to make the vehicle swerve to the music. I do it a lot with the GTA games.

I do this, too, to my brothers racing game.
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Post by: Kojinka on November 11, 2006, 10:06:15 AM: I used the male trainer on Pokemon Sapphire, but every other time I had the option, I'd use the girl.And when I get PMD Red rescue, I'm gonna use the male gender, so I can be Meowth.
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Post by: Commander Bow on December 29, 2006, 07:48:59 PM: I get scared in RE4 in the hedge maze. Dogs just scare me!!
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Post by: PaperLuigi on December 29, 2006, 07:51:56 PM: I love dogs, but in games, they usually mean bad news. In Metal Gear Solid (SolidShroom should remember this one) I'd always freak out when the wolves came out right before you had to fight Sniper Wolf herself. They were hard to kill and always brought in reinforcements.
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Post by: SolidShroom on December 29, 2006, 07:58:46 PM: At first, the dogs annoyed me too, until I learned that you can force the small dog to...relieve himself on the box, which repels the other dogs.
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Post by: GiftedGirl on December 29, 2006, 09:03:20 PM: My favorite part in the Cars video game is the pit stop, just because I can play as Guido. There, I said it. Now you know how much of a Guido fanatic I am.
Title: Re: Your Personal Secrets Pertaining To Video Games
Post by: Glorb on January 02, 2007, 10:34:50 AM: 1. I never beat Contra until 2004, and even then it was with the help of both an emulator and the Konami Code.

2. In Dead Rising, I never actually save the survivors half the time, I just take pictures of them getting eaten by zombies to net mad PP points.

3. I have a habit of entering a cheat code for a game before I really even get a chance to play it. I know, it's sad.
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Post by: Kojinka on January 02, 2007, 12:39:39 PM: On Animal Crossing, I tend to skip ahead a day then go back to the current day so I can pay off my debt faster, dig up more fossils, blah, blah, blah....
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Post by: GiftedGirl on January 02, 2007, 04:55:30 PM: Cool.
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Post by: Pt_Peach on January 02, 2007, 05:31:13 PM: Quote from: Kojinka on January 02, 2007, 12:39:39 PM
On Animal Crossing, I tend to skip ahead a day then go back to the current day so I can pay off my debt faster, dig up more fossils, blah, blah, blah....

You have no idea how much I've done that...
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Post by: spamspamspamspam on January 12, 2007, 10:15:09 PM: I've always had moments to go into fits of rage, mostly due to various "Undignified Deaths" (you know you've had some) such as making it through past many hard puzzles and obstacles but die because a goomba or weak enemy knocks you off the edge, but I rarely go into them because I really don't want to end up like my dad, who ,by going into rages, I learned the 7 Sware Words at the age of 8. And I'm 15 now.
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Post by: Glorb on January 13, 2007, 12:24:19 PM: Hey, the earlier you learn swear words, the better. I'm 15, and at age 3 I made sailors blush whenever I went into one of my trademark Cussing Fits. But I sometimes actually talk to games whenever I get angry at them. For example:

"Aahghgh! You stupid, cheap game! Do you hate me? Is that why you're unbeatable? Did your developers have some sort of rough childhood and want to take it out on the world?! Huh?!?!"
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Post by: GiftedGirl on January 13, 2007, 12:33:19 PM: I get emotionally attatched to my Pokemon in the games. ^^;
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Post by: The Chef on January 13, 2007, 06:56:20 PM: Sometimes I talk to the characters in the game as if I know them personally.
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Post by: BP on January 13, 2007, 07:04:01 PM: I'd never even unlocked Special Cup in Super Mario Kart until this year. -_-'
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Post by: Kojinka on February 22, 2007, 05:59:23 PM: Quote from: Glorb on January 13, 2007, 12:24:19 PM
But I sometimes actually talk to games whenever I get angry at them.
You have no idea how many times I've done that.
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Post by: Toad on February 22, 2007, 09:36:52 PM: Whenever I go back and play older games, I try to pep talk Mario into making that jump that is near impossible. Or, when I mess up and hit a wall/enemy/thing, I'll say "c'mon Mario, you can do better than that!" even though I know he can't hear me. Somehow, it helps a little..
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Post by: Pt_Peach on February 22, 2007, 10:38:24 PM: This is embarrassing, but I cried when TEC died on PM:TTYD. It was so emotional! *sob* *sob*
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Post by: PaperLuigi on February 22, 2007, 11:18:58 PM: And I laughed when he came back to life. They just couldn't kill anyone could they?
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Post by: Kojinka on February 23, 2007, 10:04:48 AM: I'll admit I felt my heartstrings tugging at me when I saw TEC dieing, but I didn't cry. I've tried, a few times, to shed at least one tear from some fictional story moment that left me devastated (like say the cool character dies), but I just can't. That doesn't mean I don't feel any emotion toward it. It just means that I'm unable to express the emotion by crying. I can only cry if it somehow affects me.
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Post by: Glorb on February 23, 2007, 01:08:02 PM: After I beat a level in a Splinter Cell game with a high rating (80% or higher), I then try and beat it with as low a rating as possible, by alerting every enemy to my presence, letting them raise alarms, gunning down civilians, and gathering as little intel as possible. I got a 4% rating on the first level (although I still beat it) with this method.
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Post by: Suffix on February 26, 2007, 08:19:28 PM: Quote from: PaperLuigi on February 22, 2007, 11:18:58 PM
And I laughed when he [TEC] came back to life. They just couldn't kill anyone could they?

I actually became fairly angry. There was hardly an explanation for his return, and I didn't particularly want to see him again. What is that bucket of bolts going to do in a deserted, techno music drenched base?!
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Post by: SushieBoy on February 26, 2007, 09:07:23 PM: Hey, i like that music!
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Post by: Suffix on February 27, 2007, 12:04:42 AM: Yeah, I like it too (it was even on my MP3 player at one point). But imagine being a stationary object, forced to listen to it alone for all eternity.
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Post by: BP on February 27, 2007, 12:43:01 AM: I love the X-Naut base theme. One time I was brushing my teeth and I happened to be getting into vicinities that caused me to change the shape of my mouth and I ended up playing it on my toothbrush. It was crazy.
Anyway, TEC is the base's brain. I'm sure if he wanted to he could change the music when no one's around, if Grodus left any good tracks behind.
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Post by: The Chef on February 27, 2007, 03:06:11 PM: I'm 93% sure that every music playing device in the Mushroom World has the original Mario theme on it.
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Post by: SushieBoy on February 27, 2007, 04:23:09 PM: Well duh! I think we all know that by now, the instruments form Luigi's Mansion, the disk player from Paper Mario, and that electric keyboard...
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Post by: DeadAwake on February 28, 2007, 08:42:35 AM: What about the Game Boy cell phone thing from PM2? I think that one just does the Ice Land theme from SMB3 and one of the overworlds from SMW. I guess it falls into that 7%.

New secret! When I played through Chrono Trigger for the first time, I named Marle after a girl I had a crush on! Oooo, don't tell anyone!
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Post by: Suffix on February 28, 2007, 04:33:23 PM: If I remember correctly, the music that plays on the Mailbox SP is the opening screen from SMW.
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Post by: WarpRattler on February 28, 2007, 09:35:40 PM: Secret: I play handheld games more than console games. I just don't have time at home any more.
Title: Paper Mario Secrets
Post by: DeadAwake on March 01, 2007, 04:41:36 AM: Quote from: Suffix on February 28, 2007, 04:33:23 PM
If I remember correctly, the music that plays on the Mailbox SP is the opening screen from SMW.
I'm with you on this one. 'My bad.

Maybe if I had the power of PMS behind me, I could somehow argue that the title screen counts as an overworld theme, but meh.
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Post by: Toad on March 01, 2007, 09:31:30 PM: The title screen counts as a title screen theme. Many early games didn't have a title screen theme. It was just Name/Logo of game and game options.

Anyway, I have another secret to share: In Super Mario 64, the level Snowman's Land (I think that's it.. it's the second snow level), there is a lone coin that is very hard to reach. It is under the arm of the giant snowman that is holding the bridge across his arms up.

The coin can best be seen from close to where the canon opening is. I've collected it before when I was trying to get 100 coins in the level (for the Star).. Ironically, it was the 100th coin, and the Star floated up into the snowman's arm, and out of reach.

I call this a secret because it seems that many of my friends who are gamers have no idea that this coin is there. I am the only one who tries to collect it.
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Post by: The Chef on March 02, 2007, 02:51:37 PM: Collecting that coin to make the star appear counts as the second unreachable item in that stage. The first one being Mario's hat if it gets blown into the ice sculpture and lands underneath the 1st star.

Man, I feel like one of 10% of the board that actually reads the site.
Title: Re: Your Personal Secrets Pertaining To Video Games
Post by: DeadAwake on March 03, 2007, 08:28:20 AM: Quote from: The Chef on March 02, 2007, 02:51:37 PM
Collecting that coin to make the star appear counts as the second unreachable item in that stage. The first one being Mario's hat if it gets blown into the ice sculpture and lands underneath the 1st star.

Man, I feel like one of 10% of the board that actually reads the site.
Hehe. I used to read only the main site--for years, actually. When you bother to join the Fungi Forums, though, you get the option of living off the trickle down effect.
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Post by: Glorb on March 03, 2007, 09:39:11 AM: You mean there's a main site? Oh, now I remember...I haven't gone on it in such a long time.
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Post by: MaxVance on March 03, 2007, 11:46:23 AM: Lucky for you, Deezer doesn't update it too often.

A lot of information can also be learned in #tmk (http://themushroomkingdom.net/chatroom/).
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Post by: Pt_Peach on March 04, 2007, 12:40:34 AM: I go to the main website...when they notify us that they've got a new game on here or on my occasional check I notice that they finally updated the mailbag.
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Post by: WarpRattler on March 04, 2007, 10:13:50 AM: I remember when I used to go into #tmk just to ask about the mailbag...

I have never been to the Minus World.
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Post by: Luigison on March 04, 2007, 11:08:59 AM: Heh. I've never been to the Minus World either. I like walking through walls/ceilings in SMB though.
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Post by: BP on March 04, 2007, 09:01:22 PM: Oh, here's a horrible one...
I actually abuse animals in Zelda games all the time to test myself and see if I can avoid them. I'm evil...
But I'd never do such a thing in real life, of course. Count on that.
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Post by: Kojinka on March 04, 2007, 09:23:19 PM: Whenever Ursala from Animal Crossing ticks me off, I hit her with the net. Oh, and I once planted a pitfall in front of her doorway while she was in her house, and dug two holes, so she'd have no choice but to step on the pitfall. When she fell in, I placed a boot in front of her and started whacking her with the net.
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Post by: Suffix on March 04, 2007, 11:10:09 PM: Haha, that is both really cruel and cool.
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Post by: Kojinka on March 05, 2007, 08:05:46 AM: The bees didn't help any either. Her house was RIGHT THERE, but RIGHT when I pressed 'A' to enter, the bees swarmed all around me and stung me!
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Post by: WarpRattler on March 05, 2007, 06:01:12 PM: Quote from: Bird Person on March 04, 2007, 09:01:22 PM
Oh, here's a horrible one...
I actually abuse animals in Zelda games all the time to test myself and see if I can avoid them. I'm evil...
But I'd never do such a thing in real life, of course. Count on that.

I want a T-shirt that says "I survived the Cucco Swarm and all I got was this stupid T-shirt". I've been attacking Cuccos in every LoZ game I can attack them in ever since I started playing the series. I guess I have something against chickens.
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Post by: BP on March 05, 2007, 06:20:14 PM: They don't attack you in Twilight Princess. Instead, you control them for a short time. It's pretty fun.
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Post by: Pt_Peach on March 06, 2007, 12:18:00 AM: Kojinka...I'm shocked.

Well, not really.

In LoZ:OoT, I used to pick up Cuccoo's and throw them. Just for the heck of it.

In Animal Crossing, I randomly used to go around and hit animals with my net and try to hit them with my shovel. I also shoved one in a pitfall every so often.
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Post by: Kojinka on March 06, 2007, 07:53:04 AM: See I only do that to Ursala.
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Post by: GiftedGirl on March 19, 2007, 11:13:59 AM: I'm so stupid, I fall down my own pitfalls! |D Turn it off!
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Post by: Lizard Dude on March 20, 2007, 04:30:07 AM: Here's my personal secret:

I always, always forget where Star 4: Navigating the Toxic Maze is on SM64's Hazy Maze Cave. I always remember the A-Maze-Ing Emergency Exit and that causes my brain to absolutely deny the possibility that both stars require jumping up to a secret ledge. I go through the maze and out the backdoor a few times before figuring it out. I have the rest of the game nearly completely memorized and still always forget that.
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Post by: Kojinka on March 20, 2007, 07:07:50 AM: I fell down a pitfall behind Ursala's house, so I thought she was the one that planted it. Naturally, I whacked her to no end.
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Post by: Toad on March 21, 2007, 04:52:46 PM: I sell or use pitfalls as letter fodder. I hate the things.

Also, LD, I've done that more than a few times too. I'll run through the back door of the maze and take the elevator up and down a few times before that moment of "Eureka!" hits, and I'm running out the other maze exit. I find it pretty hilarious every single time.

I love replaying games. I often replay them just to go through that one room for the hundredth time, and think "ok, what am I missing?!"
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Post by: Kojinka on March 21, 2007, 05:27:05 PM: I try to stay away from Ursala to save pitfalls.