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Title: In SMW..
Post by: Br26 on January 11, 2007, 01:10:26 PM
Who made it through all those special stages? You know, the "Tubular" and "Funky" worlds. I forget the specific name but I made it through each one..it sure wasnt easy :s
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Post by: yoshimastar on January 11, 2007, 01:52:21 PM
Judging from how old the game is and it's difficulty...


I'd say anybody with any small amount skill has beaten it.

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Post by: Deezer on January 11, 2007, 01:56:52 PM
Ahh, memories. I would play "Awesome" over and over because, well, it was awesome.
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Post by: The Chef on January 11, 2007, 03:48:07 PM
I beat it. Now I suddenly feel like playing SMW again...
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Post by: Eclipsed Moon on January 11, 2007, 04:12:35 PM
To this day I have not mastered Tubular (the other levels are easy enough, though)
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Post by: MaxVance on January 11, 2007, 05:13:17 PM
I beat all of them. I still remember a challenge that was in Electronic Gaming Monthly when SMW:SMA2 was released-- that if you could beat Outrageous using small Mario at the beginning, without a stored item or Yoshi, you were entitled to eat an entire box of Thin Mints by yourself. I still haven't been able to do that.
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Post by: BP on January 11, 2007, 06:25:29 PM
Judging from how old the game is and it's difficulty...
It is difficulty, yoshimastar. I have beaten the Special World though, yes.
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Post by: Br26 on January 11, 2007, 06:52:19 PM
I remember at the end of the last one I got all the coins saying that i'm a special player or something to tha extent.

I felt really special!
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Post by: Vidgmchtr on January 11, 2007, 08:48:23 PM
I've expressed much dislike for Tubular, and to this day cannot get through it in just one attempt. My strategy was to be small Mario throughout the level, as a smaller target for enemies might have a chance of getting through the level much easier. That, and if you get hit by an obsctacle as Super/Fiery/Caped Mario in balloon form, you'd lose a life, anyway.

Before though, back in 1996 or so, my brother and I were never able to pass Tubular. One day we were lucky enough, and then said to each other we were never going to play that level again.
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Post by: Mr. Wiggles on January 11, 2007, 09:33:37 PM
Ah, the special stages. 8 levels of ball-busting, tough-as-nails challenges that kept me glued to the games and constantly trying to break my controller in fits of rage over continually losing at Tubular. What great memories.

I've beaten them many times to this day, but I still find a challenge in them each time.

I still want a return of such a level of difficulty that's found in the SMW special stages, and all of SMB: The Lost Levels. The new Mario platformers have been too easy. I've heard Yoshi's Island DS is very hard, and I've yet to play it, so it may fulfill my need of a challenge.
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Post by: Eclipsed Moon on January 11, 2007, 10:01:52 PM
Eight levels.  Not 10 (or more).
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Post by: PaperLuigi on January 11, 2007, 10:16:32 PM
Nope. Haven't even bothered with them. I'm a much better gamer at the new age Mario games.
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Post by: BP on January 12, 2007, 12:11:13 AM
That's because they're (almost drastically) easier.
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Post by: Fwirt on January 12, 2007, 12:27:46 AM
Why is everyone whining at Tubular?  Outrageous was haaard...  (It was outrageous :D )

I beat them all anyway....
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Post by: Raccoon Sam on January 12, 2007, 01:21:20 AM
Outrageous was easy because it gave you an opportunity to fly through the level.
Perhaps the only level which didn't, was Tubular. The one single most difficult level in the whole game.
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Post by: Sapphira on January 12, 2007, 04:17:20 AM
I've gotten through all 96 exits in both SMW and SMA2. Tubular hangs me up the most, I think. And I think getting to the key or keyhole in one of the Valley of Bowser levels.

Something I've found fun to do is beat the game using as few of exits as possible. I think it summates to 13, but I'm not positive.

I'm anxious to try YIDS for the mere challenge of it. (Aside from the fact that Yoshi's Island is my favorite Mario platformer.)
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Post by: Eclipsed Moon on January 12, 2007, 04:30:34 AM
1. Yoshi's Island 2
2. Yoshi's Island 3
3. Yoshi's Island 4
4. Iggy's Castle
5. Donut Plains 1
6. Donut Secret 1
7. Donut Secret House
8. Star World 1
9. Star World 2
10. Star World 3
11. Star World 4
12. Front Door
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Post by: DeadAwake on January 12, 2007, 10:41:52 AM
Interestingly, I never realized Tubular was supposed to be the hard one.  I thought it was the forest one full of Bullet Bills.  Also, I love the first Special Zone stage.  It's so colorful and impossibly high.

The one with special berries is nice, too.  It's evening, and those sumo guys bring lightning down to the cool earth... And that secret cloud.

Lastly, I like the overworld itself--especially after a few minutes.
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Post by: Vidgmchtr on January 12, 2007, 01:42:40 PM
If you have the guts to NOT fly through Outrageous, be my guest.

I'm still just going to use the cape. :P
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Post by: Insane Steve on January 12, 2007, 03:09:00 PM
Difficulty order without "cheating":

Tubular >>>>> Outrageous >> Awesome >>> Groovy > Mondo >> Funky >>> Gnarly >>>>>>>> Way Cool

With "cheating" (flying over the level, other tricks, etc.):

Awesome > Tubular >>>>>>>>>> any other level

Yes, there's an "easier" way through Tubular that doesn't require the P-ballons. You cannot fly through the second half of Awesome (something I learned trying to 96-goal speed run the game).
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Post by: Fwirt on January 12, 2007, 05:31:25 PM
For some reason, Tubular was never hard for me.  I had to try it a FEW times but..... Oh well I guess I'm just "speshal"...  And I've made it through all 96 exits as well.  I actually TRIED to beat outrageous without flying.  I think I made it about 1/2 of the way through....
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Post by: Mr. Wiggles on January 12, 2007, 07:30:05 PM
I never had much trouble with Outrageous. Awesome however, had those tricky blocks at the end that I would slip off of.
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Post by: Lizard Dude on January 13, 2007, 05:22:34 AM
I've gotten 96 exit saves repeatedly, and don't remember too much trouble but darned if I can remember which dude-ical names goes to which wacky stage.

My real question is:

Has Insane Steve beaten YIDS with his feet yet?
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Post by: DeadAwake on January 13, 2007, 09:38:42 AM
That's... insane.
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Post by: Fwirt on January 14, 2007, 01:26:30 AM
I tried playing GCN with my feet.  The controllers are feet friendly.  Try it!
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Post by: SushieBoy on January 14, 2007, 06:58:11 PM
YIDS is hard!! I'm stuck at 5-5!!
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Post by: Vidgmchtr on January 14, 2007, 09:18:46 PM
Funny I'm currently on that level now.
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Post by: Toad on January 14, 2007, 10:02:07 PM
1. Yoshi's Island 2
2. Yoshi's Island 3
3. Yoshi's Island 4
4. Iggy's Castle
5. Donut Plains 1
6. Donut Secret 1
7. Donut Secret House
8. Star World 1
9. Star World 2
10. Star World 3
11. Star World 4
12. Front Door

Have you ever done a speed run taking that route? I have, and I've gotten it finished in about 5 minutes.. Does anybody know what the world record is, if there is one?
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Post by: Eclipsed Moon on January 14, 2007, 10:24:20 PM
The current tool-assisted record is 10 min, 29.7 sec.?  Don't even try saying you've gotten it faster than that.

Current real record is 11 min, 9 sec.
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Post by: PaperLuigi on January 14, 2007, 10:33:16 PM
That's because they're (almost drastically) easier.

No, it's because I play them more.
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Post by: Insane Steve on January 15, 2007, 12:21:00 AM
I'm only about halfway through world 2 in YIDS... I tend to aim for 100s more than I should and I only have like half of them in world 1. Bah.
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Post by: BP on January 15, 2007, 01:15:15 AM
What I was really talking about was comparing, say, Super Mario World to Super Mario Sunshine or New Super Mario Bros.
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Post by: PaperLuigi on January 15, 2007, 12:00:26 PM
I was talking about Strikers and the sports games, party, ect.
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Post by: Toad on January 15, 2007, 04:15:32 PM
The current tool-assisted record is 10 min, 29.7 sec.?  Don't even try saying you've gotten it faster than that.

Current real record is 11 min, 9 sec.

I have gotten it faster than that. It definitley didn't take me 11 minutes to get through all of that.

We are talking about from when you start a new file (Welcome to Dinosaur Land..) to hitting Bowser on the head with the 6th Mech-Koopa, right?
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Post by: Lizard Dude on January 15, 2007, 04:52:27 PM
I'm only about halfway through world 2 in YIDS... I tend to aim for 100s more than I should and I only have like half of them in world 1. Bah.

With your feet?
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Post by: Eclipsed Moon on January 17, 2007, 02:57:10 AM
I have gotten it faster than that. It definitley didn't take me 11 minutes to get through all of that.

We are talking about from when you start a new file (Welcome to Dinosaur Land..) to hitting Bowser on the head with the 6th Mech-Koopa, right?

I don't know about the real record, but the tool-assisted one is from turning the game on (which adds a whopping seven seconds) to the 6th mechakoopa toss, yes.

Keep in mind that you're claiming to be about twice as fast as this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CBgBeuxBag (the video is obsolete, but I haven't seen the current record holder on there)
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Post by: Raccoon Sam on January 17, 2007, 11:50:04 PM
All speed runs are considered done when the player reaches a point where he must not press any buttons to proceed.
So yeah, as soon as you've hit Bowser's head with the MechaKoopa, you do not have to press anything anymore to get to the "The End" Screen, leading us to the conclusion that the run is over when the Sixth MechaKoopa hits Bowser.

Which is obviously impossible to reach in 5 minutes, unless a drastic shortcut is found.
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Post by: BP on January 18, 2007, 12:06:49 AM
I'd say the Star World is a pretty drastic shortcut... And nothing that hasn't been found in a 15-year-old game yet could be found now. So yeah, 10 minutes using cheats is about as fast as it goes.
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Post by: Suffix on January 18, 2007, 12:21:03 AM
I watched that speedrun, and I was laughing for a great deal of it. It moved so quickly, and the player showed off such skills (such as purposefully executing close calls)... Very amusing.
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Post by: DeadAwake on January 18, 2007, 02:19:01 AM
... And nothing that hasn't been found in a 15-year-old game yet could be found now.
Well, not with that kind of attitude...
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Post by: Lizard Dude on January 18, 2007, 06:25:34 AM
Tool-assisted speed runs bore me like none other, but the antics during the final battle were very hilarious (that poor Mushroom).
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Post by: Eclipsed Moon on January 18, 2007, 06:28:58 AM
You thought those mushroom antics were great, you should see the latest version.
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Post by: Lizard Dude on January 18, 2007, 07:17:10 AM
Where, man?
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Post by: Sapphira on January 18, 2007, 07:20:55 AM
(http://kontek.net/starhaven/misc/lnxplz.jpg)

What's cool is that EM linked me the speedrun just a couple of days before he posted it here.
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Post by: Eclipsed Moon on January 18, 2007, 07:35:31 AM
I wasn't able to find it on YouTube, but the Snes9x movie file and a torrent for the AVI of it can be found here: http://tasvideos.org/719M.html
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Post by: Deezer on January 18, 2007, 01:38:25 PM
i want 2 pet the lnx plz
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Post by: Br26 on January 19, 2007, 01:57:10 PM
you would be one dead deezer if you did so!

i saw some guy beat SMW in 11 minutes, but anyone can beat it easy using star road..
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Post by: Toad on January 20, 2007, 06:26:38 PM
I don't know what I was thinking, but I timed myself with a speed-run of SMW, and going starting from where you press right on the controller to leave Yoshi's House (on the map) to hitting Bowser the sixth time is about 11 minutes and 25 seconds.

I don't know where I got that I did it in 5 minutes.. (-_-;)
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Post by: Eclipsed Moon on January 21, 2007, 03:02:39 AM
That's still pretty freakin' good though.
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Post by: Raccoon Sam on January 21, 2007, 06:27:38 AM
I'd like to see someone doing a one-level-speedrun on Tubular.
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Post by: Eclipsed Moon on January 21, 2007, 06:39:29 AM
Videos do exist on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLSzEDpMMEI (crappy quality because it's a camera pointed at a TV, but a real speedrun)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=051MTk7hCdU (so you can fly)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v15WxgTSggI (but you don't have to, from the same person)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnYyWmG78To (and so on and so forth)

and others.

The 96 goal TAS is on YouTube in fragments, so there's a tool-assisted run somewhere in there.  But you'll have to look for that yourself.