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Title: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Nintendoobsessed on May 03, 2009, 01:25:52 PM
UPDATE: (April 10th)

POKEMON BLACK AND WHITE CONFIRMED!

http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml


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UPDATE: (February 7th)

It looks like the Fifth Generation of Pokemon is here!

http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/First_Gen_V_Pok%C3%A9mon_revealed_in_Pok%C3%A9mon_Sunday

Check out link to see outline of new pokemon. Speculated to be the mystery pokemon of the latest Pokemon movie!

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Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver:

Suspicion: http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Major_Pok%C3%A9mon_game_to_be_announced_this_month

Confirmation: http://pokebeach.com/#gold-and-silver-remakes-confirmed-heart-gold-and-soul-silver

“As announced by the official Japanese Pokémon Web site and TV Tokyo’s TV program information on Friday, Pokémon Sunday is set to make a “world-exclusive first announcement” in its Pokémon Game Arena segment on May 10.
The most recent episode previewed the annnouncement, showing two balls, one gold and one silver, which will be opened to unveil the announcement’s subject."


The Japanese Yahoo website has officially confirmed the existence of Gold and Silver remakes. The games are to be titled HeartGold and SoulSilver and will be released this fall in Japan. According to Bangiras, the Yahoo article states that the games are remakes in the same vein as FireRed and LeafGreen were remakes of Red and Blue. The only other fact the article states is that the games will contain new features as well as sound and graphic improvements. The translation of the article and the game logos can be seen below. The logo for HeartGold features Ho-Oh's wings in a heart formation while Lugia looks like a spirit in SoulSilver's logo.

Go to the above confirmation link to read more!





VERY exciting news. Can't wait to transfer my PKMN from Diamond to Gold!

Title: Re: Pokemon Gold/Silver TBA? (Pokemon Fans-Exciting News)
Post by: WarpRattler on May 03, 2009, 01:38:42 PM
It'd be rather fitting due to this year being the tenth anniversary and the DSi eventually making it impossible to get some of those Pokémon...I'd definitely buy a Silver remake. Be prepared for it to be another Wii entry and a Trozei! sequel or something equally disappointing (though I'd like the latter, since the first game was really good), though.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold/Silver TBA? (Pokemon Fans-Exciting News)
Post by: BP on May 03, 2009, 01:49:48 PM
The most recent episode previewed the annnouncement, showing two balls, one gold and one silver, which will be opened to unveil the announcement’s subject.

I hadn't heard that before. Now I've no doubt that this is what I've been repeatedly wishing for.

I will really buy the Silver one. And I haven't paid for a DS game since... Planet Puzzle League?
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold/Silver TBA? (Pokemon Fans-Exciting News)
Post by: Captain Jim on May 03, 2009, 02:07:45 PM
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.arkeis.com%2Fimages%2Fpokemonfactory%2Fcyndaquil.png&hash=881ff4826c76d81c3cd83911598f1e94)
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold/Silver TBA?
Post by: Weegee on May 03, 2009, 02:51:11 PM
I almost certainly jizzed in my pants from hearing the news... NOT from seeing the below image. Just thought I'd clear that up before anyone saw the oppurtunity to make some snarky comment.

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffc05.deviantart.com%2Ffs18%2Ff%2F2007%2F150%2F1%2F8%2FFat_Feraligatr_by_xxXMissYifphXxx.jpg&hash=2e52a49c5761e5b7def50f301fd8fb74)
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold/Silver TBA?
Post by: Turtlekid1 on May 03, 2009, 04:52:28 PM
[insert snarky comment here]

Seriously, I'm not sure if I'll buy this thing.  I just cleaned myself out buying Platinum, and I don't want to go through another game's storyline/gyms/pokedex/battle zone again.

But all that is assuming that a G/S remake is actually what this will be.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold/Silver TBA?
Post by: ShadowBrain on May 04, 2009, 07:44:42 AM
Yes, yes, I heard about this... It's possible, I guess. I never played that/those game(s) too dedicated-ly, so I might look into such a remake.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold/Silver TBA?
Post by: Kojinka on May 04, 2009, 08:39:20 AM
I am definitely getting both versions, if this is indeed the G/S remake for which numerous internet users (including myself) have been begging.

I lol'd at the image because I was just looking at fatferaligatr fanart last night to share on YouChew. XD
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold/Silver TBA?
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on May 04, 2009, 09:49:25 AM
Oh yay.

Maybe if they make it half as boring and twice as fun as the originals were, it may actually be worth 35 dollars this time.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold/Silver TBA?
Post by: Lizard Dude on May 04, 2009, 04:07:58 PM
There is no way it will be twice as fun. It will be the same game it always is, the same game released over and over and over since the beginning and until the end.

Pokemon. Pokemon never changes. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkBNKa2KXZE&fmt=18)
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold/Silver TBA?
Post by: Toad on May 04, 2009, 04:34:06 PM
Hmm.. They're announcing it on Mother's Day..

Anyway, I skipped the G/S generation, and we only recently backtracked and got Fire Red and Emerald. I stopped playing thru Emerald because the music and sound are so grating. Why did they even bother? The Blue and Red versions sound better than this!

It will be nice to fill out my pokedex with pkmn that I've transferred myself, though. :)
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold/Silver TBA?
Post by: FlamingBlueMario on May 05, 2009, 10:38:09 PM
Nintendo, give me one good reason why I should fork over another $35 bucks to play ANOTHER remake of the Pokemon RPG series? >:|
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold/Silver TBA?
Post by: Captain Jim on May 05, 2009, 10:47:18 PM
Well gee, aren't you a happy person. In the eyes of many pokefans, G/S/C was the best in terms of new species and plot. So, nyehh. I'll buy two copies to offset you not buying it.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold/Silver TBA?
Post by: Sqrt2 on May 06, 2009, 05:16:44 AM
If it's true I'll be getting the Silver version.

I just hope that it won't mysteriously erase all my hard work like the original kept on doing!
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold/Silver TBA?
Post by: BP on May 06, 2009, 08:52:51 AM
That was a result of the real-time clock drinking the save battery. It wouldn't happen with a DS cart.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold/Silver TBA?
Post by: Turtlekid1 on May 06, 2009, 08:57:42 AM
Should I be regretting buying Kirby Super Star Ultra instead? 

...Probably not until it's confirmed that this announcement actually is regarding G/S(/C) remakes.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold/Silver TBA?
Post by: Kojinka on May 06, 2009, 10:50:39 AM
If Yellow never got remade, I don't think Crystal will be remade either.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold/Silver TBA?
Post by: Toad on May 06, 2009, 03:47:13 PM
They did remake Yellow, only they took out the Pikachu that follows  you around and called it Crystal..
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold/Silver TBA?
Post by: Captain Jim on May 06, 2009, 03:48:11 PM
We're talking about the FR/LG era.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold/Silver TBA?
Post by: FlamingBlueMario on May 06, 2009, 10:35:11 PM
Well gee, aren't you a happy person. In the eyes of many pokefans, G/S/C was the best in terms of new species and plot. So, nyehh. I'll buy two copies to offset you not buying it.
Thanks, but I never said that I wasn't going to buy it. I just don't think I could waste another 300 hours of my life trying to complete a pokedex that seems to be impossible to complete anyway. And, I have yet to play Pokemon Platinum, so I really need to get that soon. But yeah, if they are making a G/S remake, I'm going to purchase it. Don't know why ...but I will.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold/Silver TBA?
Post by: BP on May 06, 2009, 10:56:24 PM
Psssst

Don't try to fill out the Pokédex

The game is more fun if you ignore it
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold/Silver TBA?
Post by: Turtlekid1 on May 07, 2009, 08:54:16 AM
For you, perhaps.

I enjoyed filling my Pearl Pokedex.  I don't really want to do it all over for Platinum, but that's more laziness than not enjoying it.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold/Silver TBA?
Post by: ShadowBrain on May 07, 2009, 06:43:38 PM
The one game I think I went the most Pokedex crazy on was Pearl, probably because you can get almost every Pokemon, period, in it.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold/Silver TBA?
Post by: WarpRattler on May 07, 2009, 08:53:09 PM
Confirmed. (http://pokebeach.com/#gold-and-silver-remakes-confirmed-heart-gold-and-soul-silver)
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold/Silver TBA?
Post by: Kuromatsu on May 07, 2009, 09:07:50 PM
Confirmed. (http://pokebeach.com/#gold-and-silver-remakes-confirmed-heart-gold-and-soul-silver)
Quote
No one predicted this!

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi226.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fdd131%2FTheGoIsWin%2FFacePalm.jpg&hash=e86a3450f32ff415f98a0d736ee0c3fb)
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold/Silver TBA?
Post by: Tv_Themes on May 07, 2009, 09:19:48 PM
WPM has an ego problem.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold/Silver TBA?
Post by: Kojinka on May 07, 2009, 10:13:50 PM
I hope this is true!
I felt overwhelming joy when I found out about this, while listening "I Want to Ride My Bicycle"!
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold/Silver TBA?
Post by: Jake on May 08, 2009, 10:37:38 AM
I almost certainly jizzed in my pants from hearing the news... NOT from seeing the below image. Just thought I'd clear that up before anyone saw the oppurtunity to make some snarky comment.

http://fc05.deviantart.com/fs18/f/2007/150/1/8/Fat_Feraligatr_by_xxXMissYifphXxx.jpg

Are you a /b/rotha by any chance?
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on May 08, 2009, 02:01:28 PM
C'mon Jake, the name pracitcally gives it away.

As for the remakes, hopefully they'll be more enjoyable this time since Game Freak gets a chance to rectify it's mistakes from the first time. Especially with the ability to trade to Red/Blue too early in the game. That practically destroys any challenge the game offers, since you can sweep through the game with your veteran team as opposed to a new one.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Weegee on May 08, 2009, 03:03:44 PM
Are you a /b/rotha by any chance?

I couldn't honestly call myself anything of a /b/rotha, nor a /b/tard or even a /b/astard -- I may occasionally lurk the place, but that's basically the extent of things.

Anyways, Heart Gold and Soul Silver will probably adopt Diamond and Pearl's method of allowing cross-generation Pokemon transfers only after conquering the Elite Four. As long as a Crystal remake isn't announced a year after having spent fifty dollars on a Silver remake, I'll be content.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: BP on May 08, 2009, 04:37:34 PM
C'mon Jake, the name pracitcally gives it away.

As for the remakes, hopefully they'll be more enjoyable this time since Game Freak gets a chance to rectify it's mistakes from the first time. Especially with the ability to trade to Red/Blue too early in the game. That practically destroys any challenge the game offers, since you can sweep through the game with your veteran team as opposed to a new one.

...And you aren't able to do that in every other game in the series?
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Weegee on May 09, 2009, 06:18:40 PM
Pics ahoy, boys and girls! Rest assured that they're straight from the ever-reliable folks at Serebii.net:

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fserebii.net%2Fheartgoldsoulsilver%2Fnewbark1.jpg&hash=4568baa109c666edf70f8f088b3c8cf9)
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fserebii.net%2Fheartgoldsoulsilver%2Fnewbark2.jpg&hash=ab14d140ed27d2b7fe7fbc8fd5038565)
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fserebii.net%2Fheartgoldsoulsilver%2Fnewbark3.jpg&hash=7a2712dc78e5a2b58be97e6eeb776e96)

It's intriguing that your chosen starter follows behind the player, a la Pokemon Yellow. Sadly, the Pokemon Company's Japanese-to-Engrish translated webpage (http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pokemon.co.jp%2Finfo%2Fgame%2Fg090508_01.html&sl=ja&tl=en&history_state0=) provides little in the way of answers.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: BP on May 09, 2009, 06:24:55 PM
All right!

It'd be even better if you could just choose a Pokémon to follow you and switch freely, or go without it. That's a feature I've been wishing for since I first played Red.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: CrossEyed7 on May 09, 2009, 07:11:53 PM
You know, I might finally get in on this Porkyman thingie this time around, for reals.

Is there a difference between the two games? Am I supposed to buy both? I never really paid attention before.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Toad on May 09, 2009, 07:16:55 PM
The only difference between the two games is the set of pokemon that appears in each game. Like in the Red/Blue generation, Ekans only appeared in the wild in the Red game and.. Maybe Sandshrew only appeared in the Blue.

If you've got enough money (or a significant other who likes to play games) it never hurts to have both games around.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Weegee on May 09, 2009, 07:29:04 PM
Disregard this; I suck.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Captain Jim on May 09, 2009, 07:38:50 PM
Wrooong. In Gold and Silver, you were able to catch Ho-Oh and Lugia in both of them.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Weegee on May 09, 2009, 07:53:20 PM
I can't even begin to describe how much I hate myself right now for misguiding poor, naive CrossEyed. How could I have forgotten?

Well, otherwise, there are indeed a number of Pokemon exclusive to each version. As for the aformentioned Legendary Pokemon, one can't be caught until towards the game's end.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: CrossEyed7 on May 09, 2009, 08:20:09 PM
So which one has cooler 'Mans?
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: FlamingBlueMario on May 09, 2009, 08:28:46 PM
Let's see here ...still haven't bought Pokmon Platinum, so that will be $35.00. And buying the upcoming Pokemon Heart Gold and Pokemon Soul Silver (I'm getting Silver) will be another $35.00 bucks out of my pocket. So that'll be $70 bucks spent on Pokemon. Plus tax. >:|
Oh yeah, and spending a good 600 hours on both games. Wonderful.

I'm actually looking forward to journeying back to the Johto region and maybe even catching the elusive Celebi. I also hope that Pokemon HG/SS comes jam-packed with a load of new and enhanced features. :D
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Weegee on May 09, 2009, 08:37:36 PM
Well, the game won't be released in Japan until September, meaning that North America will be waiting for at least one solid year. I'd reccomend making regular stops by Serebii.net (http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml) for constantly-updated word on all things Pokemon, not to mention a thorough rundown on the basics of series.

In other words, just pick your favourite colour of the two. In keeping with personal tradition, I'll be purchasing the less-popular title in the pair, presumably Silver.

Sorry to use Crunch on your bubble, FBM, but Celebi will almost certainly be this generation's token downloadable Pocket Monster.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Black Mage on May 09, 2009, 08:41:35 PM
For whatever reason Silver is actually the more popular title.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Weegee on May 09, 2009, 08:46:46 PM
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmashable.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2009%2F03%2Fo_rly.jpg&hash=43cdd86d7a6a65b67e9dbb6aba78fcd4)

PROOF
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: FlamingBlueMario on May 09, 2009, 09:02:36 PM
Speaking of proof, I would like to know who might have a Celebi (without Game Shark) in their Pokemon D/P/P pokedexes. I don't like downloading/obtaining Pokemon that way. But I'll bet that Nintendo will distribute Celebi at local Toys R Us, GameStop and the Nintendo World store in New York City in the near future.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Black Mage on May 09, 2009, 09:50:33 PM
I don't know how you want me to prove that. You'll just have to take my word for it.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Weegee on May 09, 2009, 09:56:18 PM
By "downloadable", I meant that it would most likely be obatainable at Toy 'R' Us and whatnot, and later via Mystery Gift. Speaking of which, I do indeed have a legitimate Japanese Celebi. It's calling your name as we speak.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: FlamingBlueMario on May 09, 2009, 10:11:24 PM
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmashable.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2009%2F03%2Fo_rly.jpg&hash=43cdd86d7a6a65b67e9dbb6aba78fcd4)

Proof!




Just kidding, I'll take your word for it. Congratulations. :D
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: BP on May 09, 2009, 10:17:11 PM
I figure the word "Heart" is going to skew sales towards SoulSilver. Like how I don't know any guys who own Pearl.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on May 09, 2009, 10:45:55 PM
...And you aren't able to do that in every other game in the series?

The difference being that cross trading between certain games is an unlockable until much later in the game. Fire Red and Leaf Green didn't allow you to trade with Ruby and Sapphire until after the Elite Four, Emerald has it locked as well, and Pal Park in Diamond and Pearl isn't available until you complete the Sinnoh Dex.

In Gold/Silver, you basically had that right after you defeated the thrid gym leader, and considering most people at that point had already played Red/Blue, they could easily import thier old team and beat the game without even trying. It kind of ruins the novelty of all new Pokemon when you have the chance to reuse your old team.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Kojinka on May 09, 2009, 10:47:26 PM
Really?  I thought Silver might be more popular because
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fjmlr.files.wordpress.com%2F2008%2F12%2Flugia.png%3Fw%3D242%26amp%3Bh%3D188&hash=89479528a52508e1f2473335da55050a)
might have a larger fanbase than
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.freewebs.com%2Ffyrecharizard%2Fho-oh.png&hash=938038df6f607f0d0054a6168f502d5a)
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: BP on May 09, 2009, 11:03:19 PM
You can trade between the same versions as early as you reach the first Center. Why is it only possible to get a ridiculously strong team from games in other regions.

I mean I see what you're saying but it doesn't stand for a whole lot. Trading from finished games has always been around...not necessarily on release day, but it has.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on May 10, 2009, 01:17:46 AM
You are missing my point if you think this is about trading teams over to other games.

What I am saying is that the experience in Gold/Silver can be soured because most people who upgraded to those games would basically take the chance to transfer their Red/Blue team and dominate as opposed to raising an all new team from the ground up. This is especially tempting when the more hardcore players realize the Johto Pokemon had some terrible stats compared to the Kanto ones.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Lizard Dude on May 10, 2009, 01:50:40 AM
I figure the word "Heart" is going to skew sales towards SoulSilver. Like how I don't know any guys who own Pearl.
I own Pearl, baby!
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: BP on May 10, 2009, 02:25:45 AM
Mmkay. I stand corrected. But still, my point is that most boys will shoot for the one that doesn't have Heart in its name. I may very well end up with both, but I'm going with SoulSilver first because I like Delibird, Ledyba, and Phanpy better than Gold's exclusives (although, Phanpy may be in HeartGold instead, as it was exclusive to Gold in the Japanese versions). I'll keep an eye out for that.

For those looking at SoulSilver for Lugia, change your mind! Get HeartGold and find Lugia at level 70 instead of 40! YOU WILL HAVE TO WORK HALF AS MUCH!! : )     )
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Captain Jim on May 10, 2009, 02:46:32 AM
What I am saying is that the experience in Gold/Silver can be soured because most people who upgraded to those games would basically take the chance to transfer their Red/Blue team and dominate as opposed to raising an all new team from the ground up. This is especially tempting when the more hardcore players realize the Johto Pokemon had some terrible stats compared to the Kanto ones.

Have fun with having these Pokemon listen to you :)   )
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Weegee on May 10, 2009, 03:16:13 PM
As a general rule of thumb, I think we can conclude that whichever Pokemon game is mentioned first in a pair ends up outselling the other. Aside possibly from Gold and Silver, this theorem has held true in every other generation to date. Of course, the factor of boys presumably not wanting a title with "heart" in their collections, combined with the common knowledge that girls don't play video games, both work against HeartGold's claim to its stake on being the more popular game of the pair.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Kojinka on May 10, 2009, 04:33:19 PM
Mmkay. I stand corrected. But still, my point is that most boys will shoot for the one that doesn't have Heart in its name. I may very well end up with both, but I'm going with SoulSilver first because I like Delibird, Ledyba, and Phanpy better than Gold's exclusives (although, Phanpy may be in HeartGold instead, as it was exclusive to Gold in the Japanese versions). I'll keep an eye out for that.

For those looking at SoulSilver for Lugia, change your mind! Get HeartGold and find Lugia at level 70 instead of 40! YOU WILL HAVE TO WORK HALF AS MUCH!! : )     )
No, I want Lugia sooner than later.  And it came with Aeroblast in the original Silver version.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: CrossEyed7 on May 10, 2009, 04:42:16 PM
If guys do stay away from it because it's called Heart, then I'll probably buy it just because of that.

Quote from: C.S. Lewis
Critics who treat "adult" as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adults themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence....When I was ten, I read fairytales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man, I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.
tl;dr: Only wusses are afraid of looking like wusses.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Turtlekid1 on May 10, 2009, 04:48:18 PM
GAH.  I go on a trip without internet for one weekend and miss all this.

My religious beliefs aside, I'll be getting the Silver remake for the soul reason that an ethereal/spiritual element of the body > a hunk of muscle that pumps blood. 

...Okay, not for that reason.  I sort of just like Silver as a color better than Gold.

Speaking of proof, I would like to know who might have a Celebi (without Game Shark) in their Pokemon D/P/P pokedexes.

*Ahem*
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Black Mage on May 10, 2009, 06:20:56 PM
What a terrible pun/misspelling.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: BP on May 10, 2009, 07:34:22 PM
If guys do stay away from it because it's called Heart, then I'll probably buy it just because of that.
tl;dr: Only wusses are afraid of looking like wusses.

Right. But don't get me wrong. I'm not avoiding HeartGold because of its title. I just want SoulSilver's exclusives... if they're the same as Silver's.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Turtlekid1 on May 10, 2009, 08:03:49 PM
What exactly are Silver's exclusives?
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Weegee on May 10, 2009, 08:15:55 PM
Read 'em and weep. Or rejoice. Your choice, really. I'm not forcing you, sweetie. (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Version-exclusive_Pok%C3%A9mon#Generation_II)
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Toad on May 10, 2009, 09:14:51 PM
I figure the word "Heart" is going to skew sales towards SoulSilver. Like how I don't know any guys who own Pearl.

I own Pearl!

I kinda like that it's going to be called HeartGold, becuase the people who play it will have hearts of gold. That's what they'll be saying about me, anyway..
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on May 11, 2009, 03:29:16 PM
Have fun with having these Pokemon listen to you :)   )

Don't worry about me, I only needed to beat the 4th gym to get most of my team to listen to me, and the 6th to have them all under my control.

Sure helped that prior to getting Gold, I was forced to restart my Red version twice and I defeated the Elite Four with a mostly underpowered team. It burned my wallet buying revive's and super potions, but it was well worth it.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Turtlekid1 on May 11, 2009, 03:54:37 PM
It's both a blessing and a curse that money is so easy to get in D/P/Pt.  Well, after you get the Vs. Seeker, anyway.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Kojinka on May 11, 2009, 04:39:33 PM
Really, I restarted my Red version because I exploited the Missingno. glitch to up my party to L 100, unaware that rare candies hurt their stats.  Starter is the usual Charmander, but I'm trying to up my party's levels and beat Brock without the help of a water pokemon traded from my Yellow version.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Turtlekid1 on May 11, 2009, 04:43:32 PM
Rare candies are fine if you've EV'd your party first.  Or at least, that's how it works in IV gen.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Weegee on May 11, 2009, 08:17:26 PM
I didn't think that EV's applied in the first-generation Pokemon titles... Huh. Well, a weak level-100 beast is usually better than an adequate team of level-60's in many cases.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Black Mage on May 11, 2009, 09:04:41 PM
EV's weren't in the first two generations, but DVs (Deter Values) were the values that mattered. They are essentially the same as IVs, except I think they controlled a few other things in addition to stats-- such as gender and shininess.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: BP on May 12, 2009, 06:34:08 PM
Scans (http://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/2/2e/HGSS-Corocoro.jpg)

New GOLD was overdone, so I'm not going to start drawing him any differently (http://moonside.kontek.net/drawn/trainin.png) anytime soon. Apparently that's not even a redesign of KRIS at all, but some new chick. I feel for the girls. None of the designs for the female protagonist options have been short of horrendous, except LEAF.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Weegee on May 12, 2009, 07:03:16 PM
Does anyone else suppose that the new female protagonist's ensemble could be a vague homage to Mario? Just a thought. Similarly, below are the sprites for your [male] player and rival.

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi2.bebo.com%2F042b%2F5%2Fmedium%2F2008%2F03%2F23%2F13%2F3868727774a7226374308m.gif&hash=8a8e890c771ef58d6f3db869d8e7fc09)
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: BP on May 12, 2009, 07:06:25 PM
Hehehehh, I noticed that too. It started with the shocking feeling that Daisy was staring at me ready to introduce herself... whoa.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Captain Jim on May 12, 2009, 08:52:02 PM
Does anyone else suppose that the new female protagonist's ensemble could be a vague homage to Mario? Just a thought. Similarly, below are the sprites for your [male] player and rival.

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi2.bebo.com%2F042b%2F5%2Fmedium%2F2008%2F03%2F23%2F13%2F3868727774a7226374308m.gif&hash=8a8e890c771ef58d6f3db869d8e7fc09)


Weegee, those can't be the sprites. Have you looked at the screenshots? Now GOLD has a yellow stripe going down his hat, as opposed to the yellow splash on the front (back). It's also missing the backpack. Those look to be fan-made.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Black Mage on May 12, 2009, 08:53:00 PM
I feel for the girls. None of the designs for the female protagonist options have been short of horrendous, except LEAF.

Don't let Mr. Wiggles hear you say that.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Captain Jim on May 12, 2009, 08:57:29 PM
I agree with what BP said. LEAF is the best-designed of the Pokegirls.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: FlamingBlueMario on May 12, 2009, 11:52:34 PM
*Ahem*

Awesome :O
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Toad on May 13, 2009, 04:32:37 PM
You know, I just had a thought..

Since Nintendo is so interested in doing remakes, why don't they remake other games than handheld games? .. the recent New Play Control! series doesn't count, since they added nothing to the game..

What about a SM64 remake with SMG graphics, along with new playable characters (similar to SM64DS)? Why not just go all the way and remake Super Mario Kart with Mario Kart Wii graphics/ideas (tricks are good, blue shells of death are bad..)

Remake Ocarina of Time with Twilight Princess (or maybe even WW) graphics, remake Kirby 64 with.. oh wait..

Anyway, I know nobody at Nintendo will ever see this, but I wonder if they have even thought of it.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Weegee on May 13, 2009, 04:39:18 PM
Third parties seem more keen on the concept than Nintendo itself -- For one, the acclaimed Playstation title, Klonoa, is bound for a Wiimake (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klonoa_(video_game)) later this year. It's nothing to make the average gamer poop a little, but a step in that direction for sure.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Toad on May 13, 2009, 04:49:34 PM
Yes it seems that way, but Nintendo still has to slap the Official Nintendo Seal on the packaging..
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: CrossEyed7 on May 13, 2009, 05:19:46 PM
Remake Ocarina of Time with Twilight Princess (or maybe even WW) graphics
I said it before, but I want both. WW graphics for Child, TP graphics for Adult.

Majora's Mask could probably do some kind of mixture.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Toad on May 14, 2009, 05:11:05 PM
Do you think that they will keep the ability to go back to Kanto? The original Gold/Silver had this function, but I don't know if the remakes will. You are able to get lots of Pokemon into your D/P through the use of the Dual Slot (GBA slot), so do you think they will keep Kanto in the remakes?
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Jman on May 14, 2009, 05:25:21 PM
I never played any of the other Pokemon generations besides the original and Platinum.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: BP on May 14, 2009, 05:55:23 PM
I'm kind of positive, Toad. Kanto and Johto are both pretty small on their own, and building a game on either alone wouldn't cut it anymore. Probably why the Sevii Islands got added to FireRed and LeafGreen. I mean, going to Kanto was never about catching old Pokémon. It was about... going to Kanto. Besides, there is no Pokémon League HQ in Johto. It's still Indigo Plateau.

No, on the contrary, I bet Kanto is bigger. It was cut a lot in G/S/C to make the whole game fit in the cartridge... but that's not a problem anymore. There are several locations in Kanto that can be used for Battle Frontier landmarks, like that building in Vermilion that was never actually built, or Mt. Moon Square. The Safari Zone will probably be open. I wish Cinnabar Island would get rebuilt after you first defeat RED, but who knows. Rebattling gym leaders is a must--BLUE was my favorite and he promised GOLD he'd beat him someday...

On this topic, I remember walking into Ruby thinking "I wonder how much later than the other games this takes place. I wonder what Kanto and Johto are like now!" The first indication that this wasn't exactly going to be an eternal pattern was the absence of Rattata and Pidgey... The original trips through Kanto and Hoenn are supposed to occur simultaneously, and the trip through Johto aligns with the one through Sinnoh. That being said, I'd have paid for and played Platinum if D/P/Pt sent you though an aged Hoenn.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Ultima Shadow on May 15, 2009, 12:44:08 AM
One of the main reasons that this remake is being released would be to gain access to the Johto Pokemon for the fourth-gen games (usually on the DSi); and with no such capabilities for the Kanto Pokemon either it's a decent bet that they'll redo Kanto in this release.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Turtlekid1 on May 15, 2009, 07:23:46 AM
This is all well and good, but... I do NOT want to trade my completed Pokedex to another game AGAIN.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: BP on May 15, 2009, 07:38:05 AM
Then don't
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Turtlekid1 on May 15, 2009, 11:00:28 AM
I... I MUST.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: ShadowBrain on May 15, 2009, 05:24:40 PM
I'm still hoping to get around to getting ahold of a Ditto in my brother's copy of LeafGreen so I can trade it to Ruby and make copies of the Pokemon I don't really want to directly trade over.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Kojinka on May 26, 2009, 12:59:03 PM
Scans (http://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/2/2e/HGSS-Corocoro.jpg)

New GOLD was overdone, so I'm not going to start drawing him any differently (http://moonside.kontek.net/drawn/trainin.png) anytime soon. Apparently that's not even a redesign of KRIS at all, but some new chick. I feel for the girls. None of the designs for the female protagonist options have been short of horrendous, except LEAF.
Yeah, I have to say I would've loved seeing an updated drawing for Kris.  I didn't care for her design at first, but I warmed up to her, and she would've been the icing on the cake of nostalgia for older Pokemon fans.

I hope HG/SS confirms whether or not the rival is indeed Giovanni's kid (FR/LG hinted that Giovanni had a red headed kid)
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Weegee on June 15, 2009, 12:42:24 PM
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Farchives.bulbagarden.net%2Fw%2Fupload%2F6%2F64%2FJohtoMap.png&hash=86d17999397e2fc6ce06b2a47f1930e4)

Behold, the *official* HG/SS Johto map. Particularly noteworthy in my opinion are the six-segmented park west of Cianwood Island and the enormous spire-like building added beside Goldenrod City.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: BP on June 15, 2009, 02:14:28 PM
Since the radio tower is either gone or even smaller than Sprout Tower, I think it might be that.

Look at that bridge over Route 32... it doesn't seem to be connecting any landmarks the original games had.

Another thing... Indigo Plateau seems to be located in a valley IN Mt. Silver. Route 26 goes straight into the mountain. Silver Cave is way over in the corner of it.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Weegee on June 15, 2009, 02:24:07 PM
Similarly, there appears to be a mountain path slightly noth of Route 27 which doesn't connect to anything significant on either end... Unless, of course, it's a piece of track that's been exposed to verify the Magnet Train's return.

EDIT: I've found a larger version of the map.  Since the six squares of land northwest of Cianwood appear to be divided by "elements", it might be the game's Pal Park. Additionally, note the reoccurence of the Battle Tower in its original Crystal location, just west of Olivine. It's mostly obscured by clouds, but its base is clearly visible.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Black Mage on June 15, 2009, 07:15:19 PM
I'm fairly certain that's not a bridge, but is the monorail that took you to Kanto.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Weegee on June 15, 2009, 07:30:53 PM
Good point, BM -- That accounts for both the bridge over Route 32 and the one north of Route 27.

Ken Sugimori or whoever else composes these official maps deserves some serious credit for the painstaking detail which goes into them. Honestly, who'd have taken the time to account for such subtleties as the little island where you acquire the Mystic Water?
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: BP on June 15, 2009, 08:29:44 PM
Oh-ho, excellent point. That is probably the bridge over Tohjo Falls as well.

Transportation in the games has always been so dubious... How on Earth do the boats leave Vermilion if Cycling Road is clearly a dirt path in the games? Or is it a fancy bridge with dirt on it? And the Magnet Train's tracks were only ever seen in Goldenrod and Saffron. Weird. Weirder still, it is down the whole time you're in Johto, start to finish, but when you finally reach Cerulean the last Rocket Grunt is still making his escape...

What I like about Sugimori's maps is how... pure they are. Nowadays, anyway, and especially in this one. By that I mean, the edges of the mountains and forests you'll be able to touch in the game are as square as they will be. The roads do not curve. It fits to the grid. He's gotten much better. The oldest Kanto map depicts a barren wasteland of rounded lies.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Tv_Themes on June 16, 2009, 09:22:50 AM
This game is going to be so amazing.

Btw, that Golden area above Ecruteak is not a desert, but a golden leaf forest.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Weegee on June 16, 2009, 10:59:27 AM
Btw, that Golden area above Ecruteak is not a desert, but a golden leaf forest.

Is this speculation or fact?
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Tv_Themes on June 16, 2009, 01:14:37 PM
It's believed to be fact.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: The Chef on June 16, 2009, 03:44:21 PM
Then...it's not fact.

More importantly, WHO believes it?
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Tv_Themes on June 16, 2009, 06:05:32 PM
A cutscene featuring Ho-oh kind of says it is a Golden leaf forest.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Weegee on June 16, 2009, 06:24:41 PM
Would you be so kind as to toss us a link to said cutscene, Tv_Themes?

On that note, it's worth wondering whether Kanto will return as the dilapidated shadow of its glorious former self as seen in G/S/C, or if the Safari Zone, Silph Co. building, Lavender Tower and Cerulean Cave will make their full-fledged reappearances.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: BP on June 16, 2009, 10:49:33 PM
Look at how beefed-up Johto is apparently going to be and make an educated guess.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Weegee on June 17, 2009, 03:49:01 PM
Err, yes?

Anyways, the Pokewalker (http://thenintendo.com/2009/06/pokemon-heart-gold-and-soul-silver-pokewalker/): Love it, hate it, or somewhere in between? Personally, I find the concept of daycare-esque unregulated leveling to be far too unreliable. Really, what could be much worse than discovering that all the moves of the Pokemon you transferred to the Pokewalker had been overwritten by crappy attacks?
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Weegee on June 20, 2009, 06:08:43 PM
...I see. Well thanks for your insightful input regarding the PokeWalker.(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.moddb.com%2Fimages%2Fmembers%2F1%2F309%2F308136%2FMario_Facepalm.gif&hash=08efdefaa126f40874657b41a310f436)

In other news, Nintendo has launched an official [Japanese] minisite for HeartGold and SoulSilver. I've already taken the liberty of putting the site through Google Translate: Although there's little translateable text on the main page, devling deeper into the site will reveal a reasonable amount of Engrish text to sift through (http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=hp&hl=en&js=n&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pokemon.co.jp%2Fspecial%2Fhgss%2F&sl=ja&tl=en&history_state0=). Who'd have thought that the Japanese name for Lugia translates to "Rugia"? I had been under the impression that such mispronunciations were nothing more than false stereotypes... heh.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: CrossEyed7 on June 20, 2009, 06:48:31 PM
It's actually that they have one sound that's in between L and R that they use for both. Basically, you make the mouth motions for an L, but use it to make an R.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: BP on June 20, 2009, 06:53:10 PM
You say it like it's Nintendo's fault that Google Translate isn't very good.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Weegee on June 20, 2009, 07:02:59 PM
I was more getting at the fact that direct English-Japanese translation always comes out with mildly humourous results, but that works too.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Captain Jim on June 20, 2009, 07:47:13 PM
Which is why Link is pronounced Rinku and Luigi is pronounced Ruiji, right? Most stereotypes have a basis in fact, however distorted they get along the way.


Anywho, I'll use the PokeWalker. Just for raisin' somethin' during the schoolday as I walk around.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Chupperson Weird on June 20, 2009, 09:40:32 PM
Generally the Japanese R sounds more like an R than an L which is why it's spelled R and not L. Also how is a linguistic convention a stereotype?
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Weegee on June 20, 2009, 11:26:31 PM
Also how is a linguistic convention a stereotype?

Well, it helps "complete" the old-fashioned Asian stereotype. The joke used to be reversed -- that is, that East Asians couldn't pronounce the letter R, as shown in this early-60's Jello commercial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCKxWQCs3f0&feature=related). A more recent example is Team America's deplorably adorable depiction of Kim Jong Il and his apparent inability to vocalize the Engrish retter L (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xhve8_team-america-im-so-ronery_fun).

"He unable to tell if this Jello is strawbelly, laspbelly, chelly, olange, lime, apple, black laspbelly, black chelly or glape!"

...And, yeah.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Chupperson Weird on June 20, 2009, 11:44:02 PM
Chinese has more of an L than an R. But people with a heavy Korean accent I've seen seem to pronounce stuff with R-type sounds more than L.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: WarpRattler on June 21, 2009, 08:23:17 PM
(I prefer Gradius sounds, myself.)

ON-TOPIC: I'm looking forward to Soul Silver. I'm not sure yet whether I'm looking forward to having two siblings who will play through Heart Gold more rapidly than I'd care to do.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Weegee on July 05, 2009, 10:12:37 PM
Why would the speed at which your siblings play the game affect you? Not that it really matters, but I don't want anyone to know that I'm essentially bumping this thread for nothing. This way, the mods will never figure it ou...

D'OH!
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Jman on July 06, 2009, 08:38:53 PM
My big hope for this game is that they'll make like Pokemon: Battle Revolution and have a feature where you can battle anyone whether you know 'em or not. 
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Weegee on August 11, 2009, 02:10:16 PM
WEEGEE used BUMP!
It's super effective!

Well, Serebii (http://serebii.net/index2.shtml) has unloaded a veritable crapload of scans, courtesy of CoroCoro magazine, relating to the games. Something to ponder: Couldn't the inclusion of Apricorns (http://serebii.net/heartgoldsoulsilver/apricorns.shtml) potentially hamper the connectivity between HG/SS and D/P/P, since the Balls they create are mostly re-named copies of ones already existing in D/P/P?
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: BP on August 11, 2009, 06:17:29 PM
Actually I don't think any of them got perfect successors. The Lure Ball would be obsolete in the face of the Net Ball and the Friend Ball probably would have done what the Luxury Ball does if the GB games were high-tech enough...

But none of them are in D/P/P so they'll have to think of something.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Weegee on August 11, 2009, 06:25:45 PM
My point exactly. How would, say, a Friend Ball be transferred onto D/P/P if there's no data for them?
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: BP on August 11, 2009, 07:25:44 PM
Patch the game maybe?
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Lizard Dude on August 11, 2009, 09:19:04 PM
Maybe they put that data in ahead of time, knowing their future plans.

(Here's where someone links extensive logs of people poring through all data on the D/P/P cards proving no Friend Ball data exists.)
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: The Guy on August 25, 2009, 03:46:01 PM
http://www.pokemon.com/

Click on the number three.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on August 25, 2009, 05:44:01 PM
I'm sorry, I was too busy raging at the fact that I can only get the Member Card with a copy of Platinum or that I'm completely in the dark about that Arcues promotion.

I should hate those promotions but they get me out of the house and I usually find some decent competition at those Toys R' Us stores...from adults strangely enough.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Weegee on August 25, 2009, 06:13:49 PM
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pccables.com%2Fimages%2Faction_replay_ds_large.jpg&hash=9de71431335fd50aabb7faf8305075e1)

Get one. I have three Arceuses... and counting.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on August 25, 2009, 06:26:46 PM
Action Replays and other cheating devices are for casuals.

Super hardcore mature gamers like myself use chain trading and travel to long-distance promotions to get what we want.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: WarpRattler on August 25, 2009, 07:45:27 PM
Why are you still trying to play Pokémon, possibly the most easily demonstrably hackable game and the most grindy game on the market, competitively?
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on August 25, 2009, 07:56:12 PM
It's the only way I can legally beat kids.

Do ho ho ho ho
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: WarpRattler on August 25, 2009, 08:21:04 PM
Really? I thought it was the only way you could legally rape them.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: ShadowBrain on August 25, 2009, 09:41:04 PM
Now you tell me.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Weegee on August 25, 2009, 10:10:59 PM
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fconsolecaliber.com%2Fforums%2Fstyle_emoticons%2Fdefault%2Fpedobear.gif&hash=770b8bdc78c5f0da4fa09a66348506ba)

Anyways, who supposes that we'll all regret having bought HG/SS once the inevitable Crystal remake is released a year and a half later?
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Captain Jim on August 25, 2009, 10:58:57 PM
Because a Yellow remake came out a year and a half later, right?

Right?
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Weegee on August 25, 2009, 11:07:12 PM
Really? I must've missed it. But if Captain Jim says it, it must be true.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Tv_Themes on August 25, 2009, 11:11:46 PM
Really? I must've missed it. But if Captain Jim says it, it must be true.

Sarcasm detector reads: .............

Anyway, my friend got an action replay so he can get Arceus, Shaymin and etc. I told him I want nothing to do with those hacked Pokemon, I already picked up a Shaymin when Toys R Us distributed them and will gladly wait patiently for the Arceus event.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: BP on August 26, 2009, 12:00:43 AM
There will be no Crystal remake. HG/SS have in fact been confirmed to have some aspects from Crytal. Eusine's in it.

I hope they took data for Poliwag locations from Crystal, too...
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: ShadowBrain on August 26, 2009, 08:13:07 AM
The fact that everyone knows about Arceus and Nintendo still hasn't officially announced beyond its mere existence in America is enough for me seriously consider just AR'ing him eventually... or not.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Glitchy on August 26, 2009, 12:55:09 PM
I had someone I found on t3h internet to do the dirty work for me and get Darkrai, Arceus and Shaymin before Darkrai was released. -shot-. Well, I'm starting to lose interest in the game slightly, considering I already completed my Pokedex (as in, see AND catch all 493, without the magical AR) and I'm getting somewhat close on Platinum. Though I will get HG/SS, I dunno if I really want to complete the pokedex again.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Turtlekid1 on August 26, 2009, 01:03:31 PM
I'm probably just going to trade all mine over.
Again.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: BP on August 26, 2009, 04:55:18 PM
I'm going to not give a flying frigate about legendaries, as usual.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on August 26, 2009, 05:32:12 PM
The fact that everyone knows about Arceus and Nintendo still hasn't officially announced beyond its mere existence in America is enough for me seriously consider just AR'ing him eventually... or not.

I'm guessing they'll run a TRU Arceus promotion by the time the Arceus movie makes its way across the pond. They did the same for Darkrai, Manaphy and the promotion Regigigas in the last few years.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Tv_Themes on August 27, 2009, 09:45:30 AM
I'm guessing they'll run a TRU Arceus promotion by the time the Arceus movie makes its way across the pond. They did the same for Darkrai, Manaphy and the promotion Regigigas in the last few years.

Just watch it be exclusive to Platinum too, the one game I refuse to get.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: WarpRattler on August 27, 2009, 10:34:56 AM
Bird Person has his hugely-popular JRPG series mixed up.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on September 09, 2009, 05:40:41 PM
So it looks like some details have started leaking via 2ch and Serebii. Things of note:

- The old Safari Zone has been replaced with a Pal Park
- Cerulean Cave is open once again
- All starters of the first 3 gens are obtainable as you prgress through your Dex
- the character you don't choose becomes your second rival in-game

Looking good so far. Totally making up for the disappointing originals.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Turtlekid1 on September 09, 2009, 06:39:05 PM
Not only is Cerulean Cave open again, but it's once again the residence of a certain evil psychic cat...
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Tv_Themes on September 09, 2009, 07:47:36 PM
Being able to get a Kanto and Hoenn starter later as well as your Johto starter is awesome!
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Weegee on September 09, 2009, 08:02:54 PM
One of every generation of starter, practically every legendary and a device which lets you train Pokemon simply by walking around IRL coating it in Saran wrap and leaving it in the washing machine? All I can say is,

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdriph.com%2Fwords%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2008%2F05%2Fawesome.gif&hash=7330f659c98a0a461d9aeb793f79695e)
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on September 10, 2009, 07:16:01 PM
Yeah, a couple of legendaries are still missing but they're easily obtainable in Diamond/Pearl or they're promotional ones. As for the Pokewalker, I have no interest in that since I'd rather keep an eye on my teams growth. Being able to capture wild Pokemon in there is pretty cool though.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Weegee on September 10, 2009, 07:27:52 PM
Agreed about your concerns regarding Pokewalker training, though. Overdoing it would be like raising your Pokemon a few levels in the day-care only to see that it's forgotten an essential move. There'll go one Heart Scale.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Turtlekid1 on September 10, 2009, 07:29:49 PM
Eh, as long as Heart Scales are as easy to come by in HG/SS as in Platinum, I'd be willing to part with one or two.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on September 11, 2009, 01:09:38 PM
Gold's default name is Hibiki while Soul's is Kotone.

I don't remember Gold having a default name in the originals, so its nice to finally have one. I wonder if he'll make a return appearance in the series, although there he's already known as Kenta/Jimmy. Kotone's showing up to pimp these new games though.

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi52.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg16%2FMidgetBottle%2FDP143.png&hash=9908f417336ce530fefc1523faeb90c8)
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Weegee on September 12, 2009, 06:49:16 PM
Major, albeit predictable plot twist revealed on Serebii: Click to spoil. (http://serebii.net/heartgoldsoulsilver/celebi.shtml)

All I can say is this: Remember what the scientist on FR/LG's Five Island says after relinquishing the sapphire to you? Well, as it turns out...
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Tv_Themes on September 14, 2009, 10:46:42 PM
Oh, I thought you were going to say

Dawn is catching a Cyndaquil in this Thursday's episode...
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Jman on September 16, 2009, 04:39:33 PM
This is shaping up to be an exciting game.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Weegee on September 16, 2009, 08:27:21 PM
...And in English, to boot! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOYMgXXBgwQ)
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Glitchy on September 24, 2009, 04:38:13 PM
...And in English, to boot! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOYMgXXBgwQ)

I'm pretty sure that's a ROM patch...I could be wrong. Notice the weirdly spaced "Gold" and "Toto". That's what English letters look in the Japanese games.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Weegee on February 07, 2010, 12:25:58 AM
Not that it's directly related to HG/SS, but...

Fifth Gen announced. (http://serebii.net/index2.shtml) I'm unsure of whether to react with glee or exasperation.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Turtlekid1 on February 07, 2010, 07:14:23 AM
Let the cries of "IT'S RUINED" spring up anew.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Captain Jim on February 07, 2010, 08:25:44 AM
Yeah, I'm not liking that silhouette. Doesn't mean I don't have hope for the rest of the Pokemon designs for gen five. 
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Tv_Themes on February 07, 2010, 09:56:16 AM
Can't wait for 2020 and Generation 15, gotta catch all 18,530 Pokemon!

Why can't they just stop?
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Turtlekid1 on February 07, 2010, 11:14:51 AM
For once, I find myself agreeing with Tv_Themes.
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Weegee on February 07, 2010, 12:06:04 PM
I was hoping that they'd introduce a handful of ultra-special Polkamen to cap it off at 500.

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Farchives.bulbagarden.net%2Fmedia%2Fupload%2F2%2F2c%2FPSGEN5.png&hash=a444ef8652852fd87817e4bc94465d19)

Speculations, anyone?
Title: Re: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver Announced!
Post by: Turtlekid1 on February 07, 2010, 12:13:48 PM
IT'S UGLY

IT HAS TOO MANY SPIKES

IT WON'T SHUT UP ABOUT AURA


But seriously, folks, I really wanna see how they plan on topping themselves after making the GOD Pokemon obtainable.  What I would like to see this gen is a return to basics, without adding a gazillion Legendaries, and maybe even a little less focus on the Legendaries that they do add, as far as the storyline goes. 
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on February 07, 2010, 07:35:55 PM
Who cares what they look like? Just give me some more variables in raising them to make things fun again.

Maybe they could even make victories in the Battle Frontier count towards gaining experience. Honestly, beating my rival on a weekly basis to raise my team gets old fast.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Turtlekid1 on February 07, 2010, 07:43:09 PM
I prefer the Elite Four for the purposes of EXP grinding, myself.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Lizard Dude on February 07, 2010, 07:46:07 PM
This is like 'Who's That Pokémon?' except with no chance of guessing it.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Weegee on February 07, 2010, 09:33:32 PM
True, but why not see how close we can get to the mark between now and when the silhouette's identity is revealed? I couldn't be bothered to insert the Pokemon's outline into the first panel, but... yeah.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Lizard Dude on February 07, 2010, 10:08:25 PM
I couldn't be bothered to insert the Pokemon's outline into the first panel
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Flizarddude.kontek.net%2FWackyForum%2Ffacefacepalmpalm.jpg&hash=dd428406e50791228ef19912efa6a42c)
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Weegee on February 07, 2010, 10:49:58 PM
What can I say? MS Paint isn't made for such intricacies. Anyways, I'm guessing that it's a Fighting/something-type canine creature... of Satan, of course (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmNb3xJFzkc).
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: penguinwizard on February 07, 2010, 11:04:58 PM
They should just go ahead and make it Pikachu wearing a sombrero. Not like any of their ideas are any better.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on February 08, 2010, 01:47:45 AM
What can I say? MS Paint isn't made for such intricacies. Anyways, I'm guessing that it's a Fighting/something-type canine creature... of Satan, of course (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmNb3xJFzkc).

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He still doesn't know about GIMP or Paint.NET
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: ShadowBrain on February 08, 2010, 08:21:57 AM
I could've done it on Paint.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Kojinka on February 08, 2010, 10:11:14 AM
The silhouette reminds me of an evolved Lucario for some reason.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Turtlekid1 on February 08, 2010, 11:21:50 AM
Well, that would guarrantee that Captain Jim, BP, Rao, and The Chef will hate it, and that it will be playable in the next Smash Bros. game instead of Mewtwo.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Rao on February 08, 2010, 11:40:50 AM
/me hates it.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Weegee on February 08, 2010, 07:37:38 PM
Alright. After a grueling fifteen minutes in MS Paint, the deed is done. We have two weeks before the big unveiling, so pick your preferred template and get to it!
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Black Mage on February 08, 2010, 07:49:06 PM
That template reminds me of this fourteen second youtube.

Language Warning. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9o5_W6hn9k)

Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: penguinwizard on February 08, 2010, 08:13:49 PM
Language Warning. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9o5_W6hn9k)
That was hilari-awesome. Best part is how confident he is in his answer. You don't even need to know about Pokemon to get the joke.

And this one image is funny too (http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/35595) because I can totally imagine them pulling a cheap trick like that.


Despite what my entry says, who I really think it is is... yeah, what Kojinka's saying. A new form of Lucario, one with a... huge ponytail. Steven Seagal ponytail? I don't know. And if not that, then a needle mouse of some sort.

EDIT 2: My somewhat scary second entry. (http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/folgrimeo/whodatpokemon2.jpg)
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: ShadowBrain on February 08, 2010, 11:27:16 PM
Second-greatest thing I've seen all day.

Also, that video was what I immediately thought of when I saw Weegee's pic.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Captain Jim on February 10, 2010, 12:04:32 PM
Corocoro is awful at keeping secrets. (http://pokebeach.com/news/0210/corocoro-zorua-zoroark-2.jpg)


Surprisingly, I like Zorua. Zoroark, not as much.

Zorua: Dark-type and is called the "Evil Fox Pokemon." It is 2.3 feet tall and weighs 28 pounds.

Zoroark:  Dark-type and is classified as the "Monster Fox Pokemon," with a height of 5.2 feet and a weight of 179 pounds.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Black Mage on February 10, 2010, 12:18:10 PM
Can't say I'm crazy about either of those designs.

Here's hoping it's not indicative of the rest of the new Pokemon this generation.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Chupperson Weird on February 10, 2010, 12:48:12 PM
All I can say is


















(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fflashyourstache.files.wordpress.com%2F2008%2F01%2Fzorro1.jpg&hash=c59737b4f6991839b0af375737fdbccf)
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: N64 Chick on February 10, 2010, 01:08:28 PM
Darn it. I almost read "Zoroark" as "Zorak." You know, from Space Ghost.

I do think Zorua looks sorta cute though.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: penguinwizard on February 10, 2010, 01:12:21 PM
Aw, I like Zorua. Not as much as Vulpix though. New fox pokemon... that's kind of cool I guess.

Also: Another MS Paint opportunity! Post your reactions!
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Turtlekid1 on February 10, 2010, 04:02:10 PM
Can't say I'm crazy about either of those designs.

Agreed.  Zorua's eyes look wrong for some reason, and it's... I dunno, call me crazy, but it looks kind of insubstantial.  Zoroark would be fine if it weren't for its ponytail and hair-tie-looking thing.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Weegee on February 10, 2010, 04:12:46 PM
Talk about an uninspired design: Vulpix/Ninetails + Poochyena/Mightyena = Zorua/Zoroark. Is the Animal Kingdom really so limited that Game Freak is recycling even more mammals? I demand a capybara-themed Pokemon, ASAP.

However, I'll retract my criticisms if Zorua and Zoroark are revealed to be the first and second respective evolutions of a starter Pokemon, thus confirming the rumour that the next gen will feature Dark/Fighting/Psychic-type starters.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on February 10, 2010, 04:23:54 PM
Dark/Fighting/Psychic-type starters.

That's an incredibly stupid idea and hopefully Game Freak isn't dumb enough to ever go through with it.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: N64 Chick on February 10, 2010, 05:08:37 PM
I think I'd rather see Flying/Fighting/Rock starters.

Reason? Well, with the aforementioned Dark/Fighting/Psychic types, one of them is totally immune (as opposed to resistant) to one of the other types. This doesn't happen with Flying/Fighting/Rock.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: ShadowBrain on February 10, 2010, 09:08:19 PM
Weegee, excellently put. And funny you should mention that--before I saw screenshots that seemed to indicate this being another quasi-Legendary fodder for the next Pokemon movie, I was suddenly reminded of that fake Psychic/Dark/Fighting starter character art that was floating around pre-D/P. I looked 'em up again, and... I forgot how incredibly convincing they are. Heck, one was a kangaroo and another a triceratops--we've seen iterations of neither!

*Takes another look at Zoroark*

Validation of Rule 34 in 3, 2...
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Lizard Dude on February 10, 2010, 09:14:43 PM
Why is that your first thought? There is NOTHING sexual about it.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Weegee on February 10, 2010, 09:18:59 PM
Mind you, the same could have been said for Lucario, whose image hit the fan soon after being unveiled. Gardevoir and Lopunny are the only Pokemon upon whom Rule 34 should be subjected, anyway.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Fifth on February 10, 2010, 09:25:43 PM
*Takes another look at Zoroark*

Validation of Rule 34 in 3, 2...

Sorry guys, but Zoroark there was, ah, "validated" while still only a silhouette.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Weegee on February 10, 2010, 09:36:56 PM
[darn]; Fifth is right. The same already goes for Zorua: Check /v/ if you dare.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: SolidShroom on February 10, 2010, 09:39:45 PM
Rule 34 on Pokémon? Why did I even come back?
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Lizard Dude on February 10, 2010, 09:53:38 PM
Why am I still here?
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Black Mage on February 10, 2010, 10:18:22 PM
Guys.

Come on.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Kojinka on February 10, 2010, 10:28:55 PM
Not too fond of this new pokemon.  It's Zorua (Zola?) kind of cute, but Zoroark ('Zoloark' will most likely be its English spelling) reminds me of Shadow the Emohog for some reason.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: penguinwizard on February 10, 2010, 10:43:37 PM
Validation of Rule 34 in 3, 2...
*checks on non-4chan site* Nothing original yet, but they're working on it. I predict confirmed in two days.

Wonder if every known Pokemon has been Rule 34'd yet. Gotta something them all.

*checks on Bidoof* *fetches brain bleach* There should be a separate rule for 34'd pics that are intentionally as hideous as possible.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on February 11, 2010, 12:32:41 AM
*checks on non-4chan site* Nothing original yet, but they're working on it. I predict confirmed in two days.

Nope. It's already done and out there.

There's even some with Lucario.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: ShadowBrain on February 11, 2010, 06:51:43 AM
*Very drawn-out sigh*
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Tv_Themes on February 11, 2010, 08:37:25 AM
Why does everyone keep comparing this to Lucario!?
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: penguinwizard on February 11, 2010, 10:56:02 AM
Because it kind of looks like Lucario in silhouette? Must be the hands and legs.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Chupperson Weird on February 11, 2010, 11:30:15 AM
It's Zorua (Zola?) kind of cute, but Zoroark ('Zoloark' will most likely be its English spelling)
Only if they're stupid. As I pointed out earlier, the names are derived from "zorro", which is Spanish for "fox".
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: penguinwizard on February 11, 2010, 12:50:35 PM
Take your bets, folks: will they be stupid enough to call them Zola and Zoloark in English?

I vote no because I think Zola and Zoloark don't roll off the tongue as easily.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Weegee on February 11, 2010, 03:38:40 PM
Of course, the same could have been said for Lucario, whose name should have been some play on Anubis or AURA AURA AURA AURA.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: penguinwizard on February 11, 2010, 03:43:41 PM
Aura-ea-ea-ea-ea-EA-ly?
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: ShadowBrain on February 11, 2010, 07:16:10 PM
And I though EA had infiltrated everything...
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Tv_Themes on February 11, 2010, 07:45:52 PM
Nintendo already has a "Zola" in their book of names, when they made that horrendous name change to differentiate the "Bad" Zora's with the "Good" Zora's in the Zelda Universe.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Weegee on February 11, 2010, 07:49:31 PM
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.legendarypokemon.net%2Fimages%2Fdp_artwork%2F364.png&hash=0a4191249dd9f571fab48f2fffa71954)(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Farchives.bulbagarden.net%2Fmedia%2Fupload%2Fthumb%2Fd%2Fd7%2FCelio_Sugimori_Artwork.png%2F150px-Celio_Sugimori_Artwork.png&hash=a29a394e3bebea544956f694b2f57b4e)
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Tv_Themes on February 11, 2010, 09:19:36 PM
Sealeo /=/ Celio

'Specially since I always pronounced the latter as "Cel-Ee-O"
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Weegee on March 09, 2010, 11:15:30 PM
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Farchives.bulbagarden.net%2Fmedia%2Fupload%2Fd%2Fde%2FHGSS_Goldenrod_City.png&hash=6be5c863f836e296594d92a4f02768f6)

Methinks one can safely assume that Johto will be barely recognizable after its 3D overhaul.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on March 10, 2010, 02:00:49 AM
No, looks about the same to m-IS THAT  CONTEST HALL AND A BATTLE TENT?

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi851.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fab77%2Fnyaronchan%2Fkotone_jajaan3.gif&hash=8471b00c18cc1f3e0af2e343bc010796)
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Turtlekid1 on March 10, 2010, 05:31:26 AM
Oh please God no.  No more contests.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Tv_Themes on March 10, 2010, 12:44:15 PM
Not only is that map old, its a map of Goldenrod from HG/SS...

And yes, please do away with contests unless you FIX THEIR PROBLEMS!
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Weegee on March 10, 2010, 06:53:58 PM
Oh please God no.  No more contests.

Amen. Nearly everything added to the series since Generation III was needless frivolity. Is a back-to-basics adventure really too much to ask for, Game Freak?

Not only is that map old, its a map of Goldenrod from HG/SS...

What? Under the assumption that everyone could recall the Goldenrod of olde, I posted its HG/SS incarnation for comparative purposes.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: nensondubois on March 10, 2010, 07:13:06 PM
It looks very much like Goldenrod City as it is.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on March 10, 2010, 09:16:30 PM
Oh please God no.  No more contests.

It's an optional sidequest cockmunch. You don't have to enter them if you don't want too.

Besides, I know that's not a contest. It's the new Triatholon event I believe.

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Nearly everything added to the series since Generation III was needless frivolity

Because nature's, battle frontiers, an extra rival, VS seeker and the WiFi center are more useless than bug catching contests and brushing a Pokemon's coat right?
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Jman on March 10, 2010, 09:20:20 PM
Only 4 more days.  I've got my copy all lined up to be picked up from Gamestop on the 14th.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Weegee on March 10, 2010, 11:03:25 PM
Turtlekid shall henceforth be known as Cockmunch.

Wiggz, note how I said, "Nearly everything". The Battle Tower's spinoffs were largely unnecessary, contests are a dorky requirement for getting a perfect Trainer Card which belong, if anywhere, in a dorky side-series like Mystery Dungeon, and having a second rival is just about the epitomy of frivolity. But you have me on the VS Seeker, WiFi, and double battles.

bug catching contests and brushing a Pokemon's coat

...Not to mention breeding, time, held items, the Battle Tower, and, sadly, version-exclusive legendaries.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on March 10, 2010, 11:27:22 PM
The Battle Tower's spinoffs were largely unnecessary

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the Battle Tower

That argument makes no sense. What does the Battle Tower offer that the other ones don't? You get more out of fighting a Frontier Brain than going through a round of opponents in the Battle Tower.

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contests are a dorky requirement for getting a perfect Trainer Card which belong, if anywhere, in a dorky side-series like Mystery Dungeon

Again, it's not a requirement. just like completing a Pokedex isn't required (by completion, I mean capturing every single Pokemon, since you are required to see a certain number of them to unlock certain Pokemon, areas or the ability to trade).

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and double battles.

Double battles are awesome. Your opinion on that is invalid.

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version-exclusive legendaries.

You act like Red and Blue didn't have version exclusive Pokemon. Much as a lot of you refuse to believe, trading is a large part of the series and a staple that will never go away. Furthermore, there's no excuse for not wanting to trade at this point in the 4th gen. Practically all Pokemon are available in HeartGold and SoulSilver, and the WFC makes it possible to find just about anything you need, although it could use some fine-tuning to prevent sharked Pokemon and impossible deals.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: WarpRattler on March 11, 2010, 04:28:08 AM
And Weegee, Contests have no place whatsoever in a Roguelike. You're retarded or haven't actually played the Mystery Dungeon games if you think they do.

Actually, given your dismissal of those particular spin-offs as "dorky" and your inability to put your socks on by yourself, it's probably both.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Turtlekid1 on March 11, 2010, 05:40:42 AM
The Mystery Dungeon games are certainly not "dorky."  However, I find myself agreeing with Weegee about the contests; you see Wiggles, there are strange creatures in this world known as perfectionists.  Unless absolutely impossible, they go the extra mile to 100% and game they play.  And something hard, like getting 100 straight wins in the Battle Tower, or just stupid, like winning a Master Rank contest, is not at all enjoyable.  Yet the nature of these creatures compels them to do these hard and stupid things anyway.  And when they're a lot harder and/or more stupid than originally anticipated, thus delaying 100% completion, it really ****es us off.

You act like Red and Blue didn't have version exclusive Pokemon. Much as a lot of you refuse to believe, trading is a large part of the series and a staple that will never go away. Furthermore, there's no excuse for not wanting to trade at this point in the 4th gen. Practically all Pokemon are available in HeartGold and SoulSilver, and the WFC makes it possible to find just about anything you need, although it could use some fine-tuning to prevent sharked Pokemon and impossible deals.

The problem with Wi-Fi trading is that it only allows you to trade for Pokemon you've already seen, which rather defeats the purpose of using the service for Pokedex purposes.  Also, trading was a lot less asinine when every single 'mon could be found in one version or the other; but now, after four generations, we've got migration and event-only legendaries that make it a daunting task to fill the Pokedex.

Also, the Battle Frontier cheats.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Tv_Themes on March 11, 2010, 10:15:38 AM
Oh dear.. all the money I've been saving for MegaCon this weekend and the games get released early next week? Rats...
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Turtlekid1 on March 11, 2010, 10:20:39 AM
I myself have already put HG/SS on indefinite hold in favor of SMG2 and Other M.  Even then, I'm going to have to choose between those two.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: WarpRattler on March 11, 2010, 11:14:02 AM
Turtlekid, I probably don't have to tell you this because you're not allowed to play M-rated games, but if you think Pokémon cheats, never play a Megami Tensei game. It'll only end in tears.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on March 11, 2010, 03:22:09 PM
there are strange creatures in this world known as perfectionists.  Unless absolutely impossible, they go the extra mile to 100% and game they play.  And something hard, like getting 100 straight wins in the Battle Tower, or just stupid, like winning a Master Rank contest, is not at all enjoyable.  Yet the nature of these creatures compels them to do these hard and stupid things anyway.  And when they're a lot harder and/or more stupid than originally anticipated, thus delaying 100% completion, it really ****es us off.

So what you're saying is you put yourself through these things because you feel like completing every little task in the game despite no reward and no one requiring you to do so.

Think about that for a second. You're complaining over a problem you set up yourself because you decided to do everything available. You have no excuse to complain when the task is neither a requirement to progress in the game nor affects anything in the main quest.

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The problem with Wi-Fi trading is that it only allows you to trade for Pokemon you've already seen, which rather defeats the purpose of using the service for Pokedex purposes.  Also, trading was a lot less asinine when every single 'mon could be found in one version or the other; but now, after four generations, we've got migration and event-only legendaries that make it a daunting task to fill the Pokedex.

If you don't feel like using the WiFi center, then go to Serebii, Bulbagarden, Pokecommunity, Smogon, Pokeani or any other video game site and find someone who can offer you what you want. This isn't that difficult if you're willing to do a little work for it. Honestly, this isn't like the old days where you had to go to a specific event to get Mew or Celebi, you can always find someone who has something you want, even if they're not from the same region as you.

At this point, it sounds like you expect the games to hand you everything on a silver platter.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Toad on March 11, 2010, 04:43:31 PM
At this point, it sounds like you expect the games to hand you everything on a silver platter.

Look at that. A pun! :D

I sort of like the
Nearly everything added to the series since Generation III was needless frivolity.

I haven't played a main game since the first generation, but I will say that, upon playing Diamond/Pearl, I rather enjoyed all the things there were to do after the main quest was over (Battle Tower, contests, the underground, and such). It gave the game more replay value imo.

And now a question: Will the Pokewalker come in every game case, or just in the first release batch?
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Weegee on March 11, 2010, 07:20:35 PM
Again, it's not a requirement. just like completing a Pokedex isn't required (by completion, I mean capturing every single Pokemon, since you are required to see a certain number of them to unlock certain Pokemon, areas or the ability to trade).

Doing so changes the colour of your Trainer Card, and thus is a requirement for a complete game. I'm nitpicking, but it's the truth.

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Double battles are awesome.

I agree almost wholeheartedly, hence the strikeout.

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You act like Red and Blue didn't have version exclusive Pokemon. Much as a lot of you refuse to believe, trading is a large part of the series and a staple that will never go away. Furthermore, there's no excuse for not wanting to trade at this point in the 4th gen. Practically all Pokemon are available in HeartGold and SoulSilver, and the WFC makes it possible to find just about anything you need, although it could use some fine-tuning to prevent sharked Pokemon and impossible deals.

I've browsed the GTS on numerous occasions, and I've yet to find a single event-only Legendary eligible to be traded for a non-event Legendary. Besides, the fact that you can only request Pokemon you've seen renders the whole system practically useless. In short: unless you're extraordinarily lucky, good luck on getting a Celebi without the employment of ethically-dubious means (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_Replay_DS).
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: WarpRattler on March 11, 2010, 07:28:00 PM
And now a question: Will the Pokewalker come in every game case, or just in the first release batch?
Every release, unless later releases use a standard DS card (that is, one that doesn't contain the infrared sensor that allows it to connect to the Pokéwalker). It's not just some limited thing only given out with the first edition.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on March 11, 2010, 07:48:15 PM
Nice going completely ignoring my rebuttal to Turtlekid's points Weegee.

Even better that you used the same points he did.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Weegee on March 11, 2010, 08:17:57 PM
I missed TK's point on WiFi trading, but there's little overlap otherwise.

Completing any game should be possible solely through means presented by the game, rather than through alternatives such as, in the case of Pokemon,
Serebii, Bulbagarden, Pokecommunity, Smogon, Pokeani or any other video game site
...to complete one's PokeDex. If WiFi can't achieve even this, then it should never have been introduced to the series in the first place.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: WarpRattler on March 11, 2010, 08:45:55 PM
There's never been a main-series Pokémon game whose Pokédex could legitimately be completed solely through means presented by the game due to having required trading between versions and a trip to Toys R Us from the start of the series, so by your logic, the series shouldn't exist. And neither should pretty much any other video game, because games typically don't include controllers, game systems, televisions, or electricity.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Turtlekid1 on March 11, 2010, 09:50:09 PM
There's a difference between things you're expected to have to own the game in the first place and the means (or lack thereof) that games provide for you to 100% them.

So what you're saying is you put yourself through these things because you feel like completing every little task in the game despite no reward and no one requiring you to do so.

Think about that for a second. You're complaining over a problem you set up yourself because you decided to do everything available. You have no excuse to complain when the task is neither a requirement to progress in the game nor affects anything in the main quest.

Why is the implausibility of optional content any less objectionable than the implausibility of the content of the main game?  As far as I'm concerned, you haven't really gone through any game until you've at least attempted to 100% it.  What fun is there in only completing the required quests?  In my opinion, half the fun of a game like Pokemon comes from optional elements.  If the optional elements aren't in any way fun (which is alarmingly becoming the case more and more with Pokemon), then why don't I have an excuse to complain?

If you don't feel like using the WiFi center, then go to Serebii, Bulbagarden, Pokecommunity, Smogon, Pokeani or any other video game site and find someone who can offer you what you want. This isn't that difficult if you're willing to do a little work for it.

You're kidding, right?  Have you recently tried wading through some of those crapfests?  You have to flood a request for a Pokemon before you even get a response, and when you do get a response, they'll either want a shiny Pokemon, or an EV Trained one, or both.  Now, if I have to EV Train a couple of extra 'mons to get at that Jirachi, then I don't mind.  But when it's standard trading fare, something is wrong.

At this point, it sounds like you expect the games to hand you everything on a silver platter.

If by that you mean that I'd like it to be possible to actually obtain every Pokemon without resorting to limited events or migrating from previous games, a non-counterintuitive GTS, and a Battle Frontier whose NPCs don't cheat to win... then yeah, I guess I'd like it all on a silver platter.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: WarpRattler on March 11, 2010, 10:40:16 PM
There's a difference between things you're expected to have to own the game in the first place and the means (or lack thereof) that games provide for you to 100% them.
You're still expected to have an extra system, the other game, and a way to get to a Nintendo event (or friends/siblings), then. Once more:

IT HAS NEVER BEEN POSSIBLE TO LEGITIMATELY COMPLETE THE POKÉDEX IN A MAIN-SERIES POKÉMON GAME WITH JUST THE MEANS PROVIDED BY THE GAME.

So stop whining like a baby about it not being possible in fourth-gen despite there being more tools to make Pokédex completion doable than in any previous generation.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: penguinwizard on March 12, 2010, 02:37:23 AM
Shouldn't Pokemon only available through one-time-only Nintendo events be banned? With F-Zero GX you could unlock the AX racers and tracks by playing F-Zero at an arcade (good luck finding it at any arcade you live nearby), but if you couldn't, you could still unlock them the (much more) difficult way. With Pokemon I don't think you can unless you do some Gameshark voodoo on it.

Sure, in the next generation you might be able to get said secret Pokemon, but they'll just lock away the newer ones you'll be frothing at the mouth for.

I already had enough reasons to stay away from Pokemon, but not being able to satisfy any possible gotta-catch-them-all desire due to not being social enough is just yet another reason.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Turtlekid1 on March 12, 2010, 06:19:22 AM
You're still expected to have an extra system, the other game, and a way to get to a Nintendo event (or friends/siblings), then. Once more:

[big annoying text]

So stop whining like a baby about it not being possible in fourth-gen despite there being more tools to make Pokédex completion doable than in any previous generation.

I think I have every right to determine how possible it is to complete the Fourth Gen Pokedex, having done it myself.  And I can tell you that the GTS, among other things, was useless, and trudging through the refuse of the fanbase on Serebii's Wi-Fi chat at 11:00 at night wasn't really any fun.

Again, the issue here isn't whether it's possible or not, it's whether it's plausible.  I'm not saying that every Pokemon should necessarily be available in one version, just that if they're going to give us all these "tools" to help with Pokedex completion, they should at least make them useful.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: WarpRattler on March 12, 2010, 08:01:00 AM
You still don't get to complain, though. Because it's fully optional content.

"Doctor, it hurts when I do this."
"Then stop doing that."

(Also, uh, "big annoying text"? It's only annoying for you because it's the truth and you won't get over yourself.)
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Turtlekid1 on March 12, 2010, 09:15:58 AM
You still don't get to complain, though. Because it's fully optional content.
It's still content.  It's no different from any required content except fewer people attempt it.  Also, as I've already pointed out, there are people whose nature compels them to do something, even if it "hurts when they do it."  Why are they any less entitled to reasonable gameplay?

(Also, uh, "big annoying text"? It's only annoying for you because it's the truth and you won't get over yourself.)
No, it's annoying because you used unnecessarily large font and caps lock.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Tv_Themes on March 12, 2010, 09:49:15 AM
I have never captured all the Pokemon but you don't see me giving up.

Oh God, I bought Fire Red yesterday :/
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: WarpRattler on March 12, 2010, 09:54:00 AM
Also, as I've already pointed out, there are people whose nature compels them to do something, even if it "hurts when they do it."  Why are they any less entitled to reasonable gameplay?
Have you considered that maybe it's a problem with the people rather than the game?
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Toad on March 12, 2010, 10:55:13 AM
if they're going to give us all these "tools" to help with Pokedex completion, they should at least make them useful.

I agree with that. I want to be able to ask for Pokemon #428, even if I haven't seen it.

If you've seen it in  an area where it currently doesn't add the Pkmn to the Dex (Bbttle Tower and friend battles), then it should be added to your Dex so you can at least see what it is and whether you can catch/evolve/trade/etc for it. It is ludicrous at this point that you can't add a new number in any of those ways.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: WarpRattler on March 12, 2010, 11:29:43 AM
I will agree that the Pokédex should work with things like the Battle Tower and multiplayer battles. There's no reason - narrative, mechanic, or otherwise - why it shouldn't. But narratively, there's no reason whatsoever for you to be able to request stuff from the GTS that your character hasn't seen.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Rao on March 12, 2010, 12:40:54 PM
I don't appreciate this thread clogging up my RSS feed.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on March 12, 2010, 03:32:35 PM
Why would anyone want an RSS feed of this place? Unless you're Glorb or Weegee keeping track of each others zingers.

I can tell you that the GTS, among other things, was useless, and trudging through the refuse of the fanbase on Serebii's Wi-Fi chat at 11:00 at night wasn't really any fun.

That's funny. I've held several trades with other people on message boards like CAG and TZ and RB and I've never had problems finding a proper or reasonable trades. I've even managed to get some legit event legendaries by trading with others on Pokemon threads in /v/. It's starting to sound like either you're impatient or you refuse to branch out. If Serebii's chat doesn't work, try out another place. It's a bit of work, but its not impossible.

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I already had enough reasons to stay away from Pokemon, but not being able to satisfy any possible gotta-catch-them-all desire due to not being social enough is just yet another reason.

I thought Lucario and Lopuuny would've been enough to pull you in :P
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: penguinwizard on March 13, 2010, 01:41:08 AM
What the heck? There's an RSS feed of forums now? I really need to have a donkey avatar because I've been really slow to catch stuff here.

I thought Lucario and Lopuuny would've been enough to pull you in :P
No, it almost had me at Pidgey and Arcanine and Vulpix and Miltank and Mightyena and Cubone and Murkrow and Bidoof and that new fox Pokemon. Lucario's weird, Lopunny looks too human, and Zafaras unfortunately are not Pokemon.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Turtlekid1 on March 13, 2010, 06:00:50 AM
Bidoof

>:C
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: ShadowBrain on March 13, 2010, 08:55:18 AM
Does HG/SS really come out tomorrow? Man... I'd like to get it, but...
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: penguinwizard on March 13, 2010, 03:21:38 PM
>:C
It's not my fault there's cute in ugly.

This VGCats comic seems relevant again. (http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=235) The reason to get this new game? Did the other games have black fox Pokemon? No they did not!
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Black Mage on March 13, 2010, 03:46:38 PM
No, Bidoof is the best new Pokemon.

This is an assertion that is known as fact and requires no defense.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Weegee on March 13, 2010, 05:34:28 PM
As opposed to previous generations' weakest vermin, I always make a point of killing every Bidoof or Bibarel I come across, rather than simply running from them. Something about their oblivious gaze incites a passionate wrath within me. In my opinion,

Sentret > Ratatta > Zigzagoon > Bidoof.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Turtlekid1 on March 13, 2010, 08:08:01 PM
As opposed to previous generations' weakest vermin, I always make a point of killing every Bidoof or Bibarel I come across, rather than simply running from them. Something about their oblivious gaze incites a passionate wrath within me.

I would totally use this as a new sig if it didn't have too many characters; this resembles my opinion uncannily.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on March 13, 2010, 08:42:11 PM
Something about their oblivious gaze incites a passionate wrath within me.

I can only imagine why.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Glitchy on March 13, 2010, 09:23:27 PM
As opposed to previous generations' weakest vermin, I always make a point of killing every Bidoof or Bibarel I come across, rather than simply running from them. Something about their oblivious gaze incites a passionate wrath within me. In my opinion,

Sentret > Ratatta > Zigzagoon > Bidoof.

For me it's like...

Zigzagoon > Sentret > Rattata > Bidoof

I actually think of Sentret and Zigzagoon the same, but since Ruby was my first game (shoot me; I did eventually buy and beat Gold, Silver, Red, etc. so I'm not a nub.) I guess I have sort of a soft spot for it. Plus it is, arguably the most useful "useless vermin" once you evolve it to Linoone. I don't really have anything to say about Sentret or Furret besides the fact that they're cool. Ratatta, meh. Bidoof...I can't beleive Game Freak actually spammed this piece of sh*t Pokemon all over Sinnoh.

Also I laughed my ass off on the other page when I saw people were comparing the new Pokemon to Lucario because I posted the exact same thing on another forum.

I reserved it a few months ago and I can'r wait to get it tomorrow. ;D
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: ShadowBrain on March 13, 2010, 11:16:29 PM
I've decided that I'm just going to hold out for the third one this time, which I can only assume will be called BrainCrystal.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Weegee on March 13, 2010, 11:52:49 PM
I would bet it'll be either MindCrystal or SpiritCrystal, since they both sound incredibly lame and therefore are prime picks by Nintendo's standards. The former sounds like some Final Fantasy key item, and the latter has little euphonic value. To quote a GameSpot thread regarding this very question, we'll get Pokemon Crystal Meth if we're lucky.

However, seeing as there was no Yellow remake following FR/LG, one could doubt that there'll ever be a Crystal remake.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on March 14, 2010, 12:05:50 AM
There won't be one. Yellow didn't get a remake, and the 5th gen games are on the horizon. There's no room for a Crystal remake to come out lest it gets lost in the shuffle like it did in its original release.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: penguinwizard on March 14, 2010, 02:19:07 AM
To quote a GameSpot thread regarding this very question, we'll get Pokemon Crystal Meth if we're lucky.
It'd tie in nicely with the upcoming season of Breaking Bad, anyhow. You know, Pokemon Crystal Meth sounds like something that would be on Robot Chicken.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: ShadowBrain on March 14, 2010, 07:48:35 AM
However, seeing as there was no Yellow remake following FR/LG, one could doubt that there'll ever be a Crystal remake.
Yeah, I was suspecting as much. I guess what I said was more a coded way of saying "I'm probably not going to get it".
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: PaperLuigi on March 14, 2010, 11:22:03 AM
I picked up HeartGold today. Haven't started it yet.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Weegee on March 15, 2010, 04:25:32 PM
I picked up SoulSilver yesterday. I've logged twelve and a half hours into it thus far.

As mentioned in the Hopeful Thread, the nostalgia is nice. However, the altogether experience is bogged down by its attempts at modernizing things: The PC system is now terribly inefficient, performing simple tasks like rearranging key items has been made needlessly tiresome, the Goldenrod Game Corner now forces you to play its [risk-free] game by no longer selling Game Coins, and most of the music has been over-arranged to the point of unrecognizability. It's still enjoyable as a whole, but not the back-to-basics adventure I was anticipating.

Also, is it just me, or are battles more frequent than in previous games? Particularly while surfing, where I can't go for five steps without encountering a [darn]ed Tentacool.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Jman on March 17, 2010, 08:37:51 AM
I would bet it'll be either MindCrystal or SpiritCrystal, since they both sound incredibly lame and therefore are prime picks by Nintendo's standards. The former sounds like some Final Fantasy key item, and the latter has little euphonic value. To quote a GameSpot thread regarding this very question, we'll get Pokemon Crystal Meth if we're lucky.

However, seeing as there was no Yellow remake following FR/LG, one could doubt that there'll ever be a Crystal remake.

SpiritCrystal sounds like something out of Sailor Moon.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Weegee on March 17, 2010, 06:45:31 PM
The final nail in a Crystal remake's coffin: Eusine, Buena's password game, the Olivine Battle Tower and just about every other Crystal-exclusive feature returns in HG/SS, rendering a remake pointless.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Black Mage on March 17, 2010, 09:19:47 PM
No hating on the Voltorb game.

That minesweeper/sudoku hybrid is the best Game Corner game in any Pokemon game ever. I've never spent more than 10 minutes (aside from buying coins) in a Game Corner before, but I've already clocked hours playing just the Voltorb game. And I don't even want any of the prizes.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Turtlekid1 on March 18, 2010, 09:06:07 AM
Really?  It's that good?  Because Sinnoh had a really awful game corner.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Weegee on March 18, 2010, 05:15:15 PM
No hating on the Voltorb game.

I hate the Voltorb game with the fiery rage of 1000 hells. It's just too time-consuming to be a viable means of collecting Game Coins, and it reveals Game Freak's submissiveness to "concerned" parents who complained about the series promoting realistic gambling. Worse yet is the fact that I can't find that AR code for 99999 Coins.

It's funny how once-common commodities like Game Coins, berries and evolutionary stones have become so rare in HG/SS. Heck, after 37 hours, I still haven't found enough Oran berries to cure the MooMoo Farm's sick Miltank.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Toad on March 18, 2010, 06:05:53 PM
The Voltrob game is extremely bad. I've figured out that when it says there are no Voltorbs on that row/column, then it's safe. Thing is, any other block that I try to uncover has a Voltorb on it. It is based purely on chance. Unless a board has several "safe" rows (more than one anyway) I just quit the game and try again, even if I only won one coin out of it.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Nintendoobsessed on March 18, 2010, 06:09:13 PM
I picked up SoulSilver. I throughly enjoy it. Hell, I'd say it's better then Diamond. I've never played the original Silver and Gold, so this was a new experiance.

I love the Voltorb game. It's way better then those almost-unwinnable Slot Machines.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Weegee on March 18, 2010, 06:26:55 PM
I've never played the original Silver and Gold

That's probably for the better. The new content is welcome as always, but most of the changes from the originals were, at least in my opinion, unnecessary.

To be honest, I couldn't care less about the Voltorb game if Game Coins were available for purchase. I'm almost surprised that I've made it this far without TM13/24/35.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Jman on March 18, 2010, 06:50:10 PM
I picked up SoulSilver. I throughly enjoy it. Hell, I'd say it's better then Diamond. I've never played the original Silver and Gold, so this was a new experiance.

I love the Voltorb game. It's way better then those almost-unwinnable Slot Machines.

  I bought SoulSilver for the exact same reason.  This is only the fourth Pokemon game I've ever played (following Blue, Leafgreen, and Platinum) thanks to my embarrassing "anti Pokemon" years, which I recently brought up in my newest thread. 
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Black Mage on March 18, 2010, 09:53:43 PM
I hate the Voltorb game with the fiery rage of 1000 hells. It's just too time-consuming to be a viable means of collecting Game Coins, and it reveals Game Freak's submissiveness to "concerned" parents who complained about the series promoting realistic gambling. Worse yet is the fact that I can't find that AR code for 99999 Coins.

It's funny how once-common commodities like Game Coins, berries and evolutionary stones have become so rare in HG/SS. Heck, after 37 hours, I still haven't found enough Oran berries to cure the MooMoo Farm's sick Miltank.

At the later levels of the Voltorb game, you begin earning thousands of coins. I have enough coins to purchase any of the TM prizes many times over. It may be a little slow going, earning only 20 or 50 (if you pick your cards in a terrible order), but once you get going it's much faster than the "pure luck" slot machines of old.

Also, I think you're trying to hard to come up with reasons to hate these remakes. I, personally, do not look for deep hidden messages in meaningless actions. Particularly in Pokemon games.

The Voltrob game is extremely bad. I've figured out that when it says there are no Voltorbs on that row/column, then it's safe. Thing is, any other block that I try to uncover has a Voltorb on it. It is based purely on chance. Unless a board has several "safe" rows (more than one anyway) I just quit the game and try again, even if I only won one coin out of it.

There's a difference between not understanding the game and it being bad. You're supposed to reason out which cards are 2's and 3's based on the addition of numbers from the rows-- narrowing it down until you can eliminate choices.

I'm not championing this game as the best thing ever, but in my book it's multiple steps up from old Game Corners.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Weegee on March 18, 2010, 10:47:58 PM
It's a relief to know that the winnings increase over time. Interestingly enough, Pokemon Minesweeper Voltorb Flip isn't present in Japanese copies of the game, where the traditional Game Corner layout remains unchanged (http://www.serebii.net/heartgoldsoulsilver/gamecorner.shtml). The European Union's tightened gambling laws, which ruled Pokemon's slot machines as promoting gambling, are to blame (or thank) for ruining (or improving) the system in all English versions.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Black Mage on March 19, 2010, 08:49:22 AM
Fair enough then, I respectfully retract my statement concerning meaningless actions. Seems I was the uninformed one.

Everyone has their preferences, but nevertheless I find the Voltorb game to be an improvement, as it has gotten me to spend time in the Game Corner where as I never would have otherwise.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Toad on March 19, 2010, 11:27:24 AM
There's a difference between not understanding the game and it being bad. You're supposed to reason out which cards are 2's and 3's based on the addition of numbers from the rows-- narrowing it down until you can eliminate choices.

I know how to play it, but it's really hard to get any coins when every sixth card I flip over is a Voltorb.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Tv_Themes on March 19, 2010, 03:23:06 PM
Why is it bothersome they changed the Game Corner? In my opinion, the slots have been dead since the first incarnation. It's not even real gambling at all.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Weegee on March 19, 2010, 04:18:07 PM
Once again, nobody would be complaining if the option of simply buying Coins were still available.

Slight dilemma: I've been trying to breed a Dunsparce (http://serebii.net/pokedex-dp/206.shtml) which knows Bite (http://serebii.net/pokedex-dp/egg/206.shtml#bite), so I've paired it in the Day-Care with a male Ratatta. However, despite Ratatta knowing Bite, none of the hatched Dunsparce have the move upon hatching. What am I doing wrong?
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Turtlekid1 on March 19, 2010, 04:59:43 PM
Do the Dunsparce know four move on hatching?  If so, it may be that the four moves it does know are taking priority over bite.  If that's the case, make the Ratatta forget everything but Bite so that's the only move it could possibly pass along.

...this is all just a wild guess, though.  Sorry I can't be more help.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Weegee on March 19, 2010, 07:08:22 PM
Scratch that; the Dunsparce are now inheriting Bite. Thanks anyway, TK.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Black Mage on March 19, 2010, 08:20:26 PM
I know how to play it, but it's really hard to get any coins when every sixth card I flip over is a Voltorb.

Toad, if you're flipping Voltorbs that often you don't know how to play it.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Tv_Themes on March 19, 2010, 09:43:48 PM
I never really cared about Breeding. Going gaga to make sure your Pokemon have the precise Nature, Ability, Move Set, Gender, who really cares? Play the game for fun, not to max out the monsters and break the game.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: penguinwizard on March 19, 2010, 10:46:20 PM
It's a gotta-catch-them-all game. You gotta have all the best stuff. Thankfully by the end of Final Fantasy X I was too tired to attempt doing the bestiary catalog thing or upgrading the aeons (who seemed plenty powerful enough already).
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Toad on March 20, 2010, 01:40:43 AM
Toad, if you're flipping Voltorbs that often you don't know how to play it.

That was an exaggeration. But I did (and still do) find it hard to get past level one when there are so many Voltrobs on the field. I've made it to level 3 or 4 now, so I think I'm getting the hang of it. I should really progress in the game though, instead of playing this minigame (I want a Dratini now though..)
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Turtlekid1 on March 20, 2010, 06:11:16 AM
I never really cared about Breeding. Going gaga to make sure your Pokemon have the precise Nature, Ability, Move Set, Gender, who really cares? Play the game for fun, not to max out the monsters and break the game.

So suppose you've already conquered all the gyms, Team Rocket, and the Elite Four (not that I'm assuming that Weegee has or hasn't).  Precision breeding and EV Training are about the only things left to do if you don't wanna try for Pokedex completion, which few people do given the sheer number of 'mons.

That was an exaggeration. But I did (and still do) find it hard to get past level one when there are so many Voltrobs on the field. I've made it to level 3 or 4 now, so I think I'm getting the hang of it. I should really progress in the game though, instead of playing this minigame (I want a Dratini now though..)

Wait, you mean the Game Corner is offering Pokemon as prizes again?  Man, this game just keeps on adding selling points the more I hear about it.  I hate having a budget.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Toad on March 20, 2010, 07:40:58 AM
Wait, you mean the Game Corner is offering Pokemon as prizes again?

When hasn't it?
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Turtlekid1 on March 20, 2010, 10:46:12 AM
In Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Tv_Themes on March 20, 2010, 02:03:12 PM
So suppose you've already conquered all the gyms, Team Rocket, and the Elite Four (not that I'm assuming that Weegee has or hasn't).  Precision breeding and EV Training are about the only things left to do if you don't wanna try for Pokedex completion, which few people do given the sheer number of 'mons.

If I need to complete my Pokedex (something I have never done in my life) or want a specific Pokemon, I just grab an Evolved Pokemon and a Ditto. Problem solved.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: penguinwizard on March 20, 2010, 02:23:08 PM
Someone's gonna start up a "Dittos are Mons Too" or "Promote Genetic Diversity: Stop In-breeding With Dittos" campaign.

Although in hindsight it's kinda cool they can transform into the other-sex version of anything. (http://tydrian.deviantart.com/art/Meowth-and-Ditto-59828706)
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Turtlekid1 on March 20, 2010, 02:47:38 PM
If I need to complete my Pokedex (something I have never done in my life) or want a specific Pokemon, I just grab an Evolved Pokemon and a Ditto. Problem solved.

Again, at that point, unless you are, in fact going for Pokedex completion, the focus isn't obtaining a Pokemon, but training it.  As with many things in games, it's the journey, not the goal, that matters.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Weegee on March 20, 2010, 04:07:12 PM
Just beat Ash (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Mt._Silver#HeartGold_and_SoulSilver)/Red (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Mt._Silver#HeartGold_and_SoulSilver) on Mt. Silver. It was quite a challenge, seeing as my team consisted of a Lv.90 Feraligatr, Lv.71 Mewtwo, a Lv17 Wooper I hadn't bothered depositing, and a pair of level-twentysomething HM slaves.

By the way, has anyone else yet obtained the GB Sounds item? Collect all sixteen badges and chat up Game Freak's sound director in Celadon Mansion to do so. Any G/S/C owner shoud be pleased with the results.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Turtlekid1 on March 20, 2010, 06:05:20 PM
Lucky for you you thought to cross out "Ash."  I might've had to kill you.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Tv_Themes on March 20, 2010, 07:47:36 PM
It doesn't help that Red has Pikachu as his final Poke'.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Weegee on March 20, 2010, 07:51:39 PM
...Or that he has the final forms of all three Kanto starters, each of which Ash had, albeit not necessarily in their fully-evolved states.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Turtlekid1 on March 20, 2010, 08:00:53 PM
...Or that he defeated the Pokemon League.  Oh wait - Ash didn't do that, because Ash is lame.  :D
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on March 20, 2010, 08:19:40 PM
They also swapped out Espeon for Lapras, which Ash also has. They're practically AU-twins now.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Toad on March 20, 2010, 11:32:24 PM
In Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum.

Oh, the worst slot machine game ever? No wonder I didn't know: I never sat there and completed 15 straight games (I realise that Clefairy points at which slot you're supposed to stop, and the moon being red is bad..)

Speaking of game corner games: anybody have any tips for the Voltorb game? I can and have gone up to level 3, but it seems that I just get super lucky when that has happened.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Tv_Themes on March 20, 2010, 11:52:31 PM
So is Red still pointlessly silent? Only dialogue being "..."

Makes you wonder why you battle him if he won't communicate with you. Also, how does he command attacks?

Why am I over analyzing a game meant for 10-13 year olds?
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Weegee on March 21, 2010, 12:50:23 AM
So is Red still pointlessly silent? Only dialogue being "..."

Red's "pointless" un-talkativeness is a reference to the Pokemon games' long line of silent protagonists. Regardless, he does, and his ellipsis has been ugraded to an entire dialogue box of periods.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Turtlekid1 on March 21, 2010, 05:45:31 AM
Also, how does he command attacks?

The implication is that he's bonded with his Pokemon to such an extent and degree that words between them are no longer needed.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Weegee on March 26, 2010, 04:06:12 PM
Leaked fifth-gen promo:

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F4chanarchive.org%2Fimages%2F201469493%2F1267171337551.jpg&hash=645b9ea99d9e35647aee259fbc8f2a55)
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Tv_Themes on March 26, 2010, 07:01:59 PM
April Fools!
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Weegee on March 27, 2010, 07:08:33 PM
Thanks to the "assistance" of Action Replay, I'm currently at Sinjoh Ruins with an event Arceus. :D
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Nintendoobsessed on March 27, 2010, 08:04:00 PM
I'm sorry, but I absoulutely despise cheaters, when I'm trying to play the game seriously.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Toad on March 27, 2010, 08:07:56 PM
Is there a way to come across a legitimate Arceus yet?
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Turtlekid1 on March 27, 2010, 08:20:45 PM
There was a TRU event or something, if I remember right.  I never did make it to that, though.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Weegee on March 27, 2010, 08:41:56 PM
The only sense in which mine isn't legitimate is that I initiated its event through Action Replay rather than driving to a Toys 'R' Us in the States. By the way, my collection now includes the Spiky-Eared and Pikachu-Coloured Pichus (http://www.serebii.net/heartgoldsoulsilver/pichu.shtml). Have I no shame?
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Turtlekid1 on March 27, 2010, 08:50:16 PM
You know, until recently, the Pikachu-Colored Pichu was available over Wi-Fi.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Toad on March 27, 2010, 08:56:06 PM
What's a TRU?

I have a Pikachu colored Pichu, and was just reminded that I have yet to do the Spiky-Eared Pichu event in SS.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Turtlekid1 on March 27, 2010, 09:07:26 PM
Toys "R" Us.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Weegee on March 30, 2010, 10:04:45 PM
I'm deciding on a competitive moveset for Azelf. I'm fairly certain that the following are all decent choices, but its third move has me stumped. Any suggestions?

-Psychic
-Flamethrower
-Swift / Shadow Ball / Energy Ball / something else entirely
-Nasty Plot

Item: Life Orb / Expert Belt
Nature: Modest
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Lizard Dude on March 30, 2010, 10:17:44 PM
Go with Explosion.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Black Mage on March 30, 2010, 10:22:15 PM
Depends on your needs and the rest of your team, but I'd suggest Grass Knot. Explosion is viable as well, but you'd probably want to put some EVs into Attack if you go that route.

I'd recommend a Timid nature as well.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Turtlekid1 on March 31, 2010, 06:03:00 AM
I'm always very paranoid and unsure about using the likes of the Life Orb and the move Substitute, because I always think "why would I want to take HP away from my own 'mon?"  Explosion doesn't worry me as much, because presumably by the time I use that one, it'll be a last resort.

Also, Weegee, I would say out of the choices you've got there, Energy Ball would be the best type for coverage purposes.  But Grass Knot may be better (I don't know since that's another move I rarely use).  Admittedly, I'm not terribly versed in competitive strategy.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Weegee on March 31, 2010, 03:31:10 PM
Since Azelf's Attack will barely be pushing 300 by the time it reaches lv.100, Explosion doesn't seem as viable an option as it would be on a physical fighter. Grass Knot (http://www.serebii.net/games/gklk.shtml) is only stronger than Energy Ball if the foe weighs over 220 pounds, although many NPC Battle Tower teams do rely on heftier creatures. It's a tough call.

I'm always very paranoid and unsure about using the likes of the Life Orb and the move Substitute

The power boost that the Life Orb provides certainly outweighs its insubstantial HP toll, but I can't figure out how to effectively use Subsitute for the life of me.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Turtlekid1 on March 31, 2010, 03:37:06 PM
Generally you either want to use Substitute -> Focus Punch or Substitute -> [Stat Boosting Move] -> [Attack Move].  One of the more notable Latios strategies (or so I've heard), for example, is to throw up a Substitute, spam Calm Mind to send its stats through the roof, and sweep the opponent's team at your leisure.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Black Mage on March 31, 2010, 07:39:55 PM
I suggest Grass Knot because many competitive switch-ins on Azelf (or so I read) are heavy Pokemon such as Tyrannitar or Swampert. Most other Pokemon weak to Grass moves are usually pretty heavy as well. Except maybe Vaporeon.

It's worth noting that Explosion only takes into account half of your opponent's Defense, so a lack of Attack (especially with a few EVs in ATK) is not so bad, and actually could be a boon in certain situations. Especially when you've got a life draining item such as the Life Orb, which is a good choice.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Weegee on March 31, 2010, 08:50:37 PM
Conveniently enough, almost every fully-evolved Rock-type exceeds the 220-pound line, and has a dual typing which either retains or amplifies their Grass weakness.

Explosion only takes into account half of your opponent's Defense

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fskepacabra.files.wordpress.com%2F2008%2F11%2Fthe-more-you-know.jpg&hash=236c954ff1cb28cc84b48e88e01d7496)
Really? Huh. Well, I'll first consider it for my yet-unchosen physical sweeper.

This just in: Fifth-gen starters [sort of] revealed, Mawile evolution announced (http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/May_CoroCoro_reveals_starters,_Mawile_evolution)
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Tv_Themes on April 01, 2010, 12:56:28 AM
April F*cking fools :)

<3 love, good ole TMK Forums meme Tv_Themes

Edit: Did you save the pics Weegee? Even if they are fake, I still want to see them.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Turtlekid1 on April 01, 2010, 06:07:07 AM
I would love if the Mawile evolution turned out to be real, because Mawile is awesome.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: BP on April 01, 2010, 06:08:18 AM
I heard "Generation 5!"

I saw "link to picture of something in it!"

It took a few minutes to load on my Slugternet and I thought, maybe, maybe

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fprojectpokemon.org%2Fgeneration5%2FZoroark.png&hash=cee62f8826162d876ebd75348af6cab6)

Crap.

Unless there are FireRed and LeafGreen remakes. Ooo.

Ended up with HeartGold though, and loving every second of it (except for that whore Lyra and that Ho Oh).
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Weegee on April 01, 2010, 05:10:53 PM
Edit: Did you save the pics Weegee? Even if they are fake, I still want to see them.

Let's just pretend that I was in on the joke. But alas, I wasn't, and I didn't.

that whore Lyra

Amen to that. That puffy-hatted skankette doesn't hold a candle to Kris.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: penguinwizard on April 01, 2010, 05:14:58 PM
What do you mean by "that Ho oh", though?
You deserve this:

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi23.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb396%2Ffolgrimeo%2Fnewbie.jpg&hash=9c0d3bbf8904118bd706c90316ee7860)

That Ho-oh is that "ho"...oh. Unless you already knew that and just said that so someone else would make a fool out of themselves.

EDIT: Too lazy to wait a whole minute to congratulate Turtlekid on just the TVTropes link I was thinking of when editing my post.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Turtlekid1 on April 01, 2010, 05:16:42 PM
"Ho" is slang for "Whore," is it not (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Ptitle0t9r68ih?from=Main.DontExplainTheJoke)?
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Weegee on April 01, 2010, 05:30:03 PM
Now comes the part where I vainly attempt to preserve my dignity by editing my previous post.

Anyways, wild Chansey outbreak on Route 13. Four hours and forty-five minutes to procure an Lucky Egg. Lucky Egg get. Using Thief is infinitely more effiecient than catching each Chansey individually as I did in Platinum, where I filled two PC boxes with Chanseys before coming across a single Lucky Egg, costing me hundreds of Ultra Balls and several weeks of play. However, the gains were well worth the trouble:

"The foe's SCIZOR fainted!"
"AZELF gained a boosted 6260 EXP!"
"(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.mmorpg.com%2Fimages%2Favatars%2Fsmall%2Fawesome_face___HD_by_ConnorJones2610.png&hash=b3a4b27af7e636d7c728449dcac2a913)"
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: nensondubois on April 01, 2010, 06:46:24 PM
I diver planned on getting Pokemon pearl but I don't diver any money to buy juegos or anything right now. Which is better? Gold or Silver?
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Tv_Themes on April 01, 2010, 06:51:47 PM
Is that supposed to be some sort of Eeyore knock-off?
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: ShadowBrain on April 02, 2010, 01:51:27 PM
I always think of the donkeys from Pinocchio when I see it.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: penguinwizard on April 02, 2010, 02:26:47 PM
It's Tonto from the Spanish cartoon "Los Trotamusicos", which I only heard about because of the catchy but so-80s intro music. Yay for characters who are called "stupid" all the time! He's usually smiling and banging away on drums, in the songs anyway. I suppose any donkey would do, but he was looking especially sad there and I completely forgot that "The Small One" existed (thanks Nostalgia Critic!), which has the most pathetic-looking but cute donkey I've seen.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Tv_Themes on April 02, 2010, 04:19:19 PM
I always think of the donkeys from Pinocchio when I see it.

The only Disney animated canon film that had the balls to say a curse word.

But no, it was the death of Bambi's mom, that caused controversy.

(And btw, I wasn't bothered by that scene as a chid. I had balls.)
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: penguinwizard on April 02, 2010, 05:10:53 PM
If you weren't bothered by the death of Simba's father in The Lion King, go back in time and watch it at IMAX where you can see Simba's tears real close, then just try saying that again.

I suspect Disney got away with the curse (assuming it's the word I'm thinking of) since it's also a legitimate term for a donkey. Which "Shrek" had a lot of fun with. And Simpsons enjoyed using the term for a female dog.

Anyway, that certainly wouldn't be the last time Disney was controversial. And by the way, no you didn't -- the hungry, hungry hippos gobbled them up.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Chupperson Weird on April 02, 2010, 05:17:41 PM
I don't really think Pinocchio could have been considered controversial when it was released.
Tv_Themes needs to get a new line of work. (Other than being a contrary, whining Kid On Pleasure Island)
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Tv_Themes on April 02, 2010, 07:17:38 PM
If you weren't bothered by the death of Simba's father in The Lion King, go back in time and watch it at IMAX where you can see Simba's tears real close, then just try saying that again.

I wasn't bothered with sadness they did that. I was bothered at it being so cliche. And that it was factually wrong, everyone knows cats survive falls by rotating themselves to land on their feet. That's nature for them. Hence why cats have 9 lives.

I'm not sure if there was ever a time Disney made me cry. I guess the closest thing was seeing lasers being blasted at me on Star Tours. Hey now, being a 3-year old, knowing nothing about Star Wars, and believing you are being shot down is entirely plausible.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: penguinwizard on April 02, 2010, 08:25:32 PM
[Yakko drops tiger cub, it goes splat on the ground] "Ooh. I thought they were supposed to land on their feet."
Besides, even if Mufasa landed right-side up, he'd still have that stampede of wildebeest knocking him about.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Tv_Themes on April 02, 2010, 08:51:21 PM
By the time he hit the ground, the stampede was evidently over. Otherwise, he'd have a bunch of wounds courtesy of the wildebeasts.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: penguinwizard on April 02, 2010, 09:33:12 PM
Why can't you remember what the audience thinks they remember rather than what actually happened? Mufasa hit the ground while the stampede was still going on, people saw the carcass of Bambi's mother, and the Genie killed Jafar with laser beams.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Weegee on April 04, 2010, 03:19:35 PM
According to Serebii, more fifth-gen news will be announced on the 11th and 15th. In other words, within the next three days (http://themushroomkingdom.net/board/index.php?topic=12580.msg567503#msg567503).
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Weegee on April 05, 2010, 07:21:08 PM
Finally found a functional Action Replay code for 9999 Battle Points. Power Weight/Bracer/Belt/Lens/Band/Anklet, here I come!
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on April 05, 2010, 10:28:28 PM
Why don't you just trade for that item instead of hacking?
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Turtlekid1 on April 06, 2010, 06:16:30 AM
Maybe he wants a bunch of Rare Candies, too.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Toad on April 06, 2010, 11:19:07 AM
So why doesn't he hack them instead of just trading? XD

I hate to ask this here, since this isn't the Game Help forum, but does anybody know where I can find some King's Rock(s)? I am having absolutely no luck finding any.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Black Mage on April 06, 2010, 03:25:59 PM
Pretty sure Weegee has some.

There's one in the Slowpoke well. You need Surf/Strength if I recall correctly.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on April 06, 2010, 04:10:37 PM
Capture a Zigzagoon/Linoone and carry them around. They'll pick one up eventually.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Weegee on April 06, 2010, 05:27:06 PM
Bulbapedia says that King's Rocks may be held by wild Slowbros and Poliwhirls, bought with Pokeathlon points on Sundays, Mondays and Thursdays, or found by a lv.11-30 Pokemon with Pickup. There's also one in Slowpoke Well.

Why don't you just trade for that item instead of hacking?

...You're kidding, right?
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Tv_Themes on April 06, 2010, 07:42:06 PM
Weegee, when you got your bad egg, then you'll know ;)
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Weegee on April 06, 2010, 07:53:59 PM
When I get my Bad Egg, I'll reset my game.

...or hatch it and raise the bad mother****er of a Pokemon I get from it.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Tv_Themes on April 08, 2010, 11:01:27 PM
Pokemon Black & White

http://www.pokemon.co.jp/bw/index.html

Extremely uncreative in my opinion.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: penguinwizard on April 09, 2010, 12:06:00 AM
...that's it? The new series is Pokemon Black and Pokemon White? Well that's lame. It'd work if Black had only dark evil Pokemon and white had only holy goody-two-shoes Pokemon, but I'm betting that's not it.

At first I thought someone was making a Pokemon version of Lionhead's "Black & White".
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Chupperson Weird on April 09, 2010, 12:08:06 AM
Clearly this must mean they're returning to monochrome!
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Lizard Dude on April 09, 2010, 01:40:53 AM
I really hope they use the Michael Jackson song for the ad campaign.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Turtlekid1 on April 09, 2010, 06:14:27 AM
This is a joke, right?  This can't possibly be official or final, right?
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Captain Jim on April 09, 2010, 06:30:43 AM
Better than getting into a zillion obscure gems or metals.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Chupperson Weird on April 09, 2010, 10:59:33 AM
"Pokemon Unobtainium"
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Turtlekid1 on April 09, 2010, 11:02:04 AM
Hey, it'd fit with the increasing number of event-only Pokemon.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Tv_Themes on April 09, 2010, 12:16:20 PM
I'm hoping NoA will change the names due to potential racism. It'll be the first name change NoA makes in a long while that I will condone (stringently stares at garbage like "Fantina, Roark & Bertha")
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Chupperson Weird on April 09, 2010, 01:18:27 PM
what
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Weegee on April 09, 2010, 02:10:26 PM
Thank God that they're returning to actual artistic shades than
getting into a zillion obscure gems or metals.

Also,

I'm hoping NoA will change the names due to potential racism.

That statement emobdies practically everything wrong with today's culture. Political correctness and its proponents are irrational *****es. Considering that the Japanese don't know that Black people even exist,  Nintendo did not intend the titles to be racist, and therefore they are not racist.

Question: Which version will y'all be getting?
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Turtlekid1 on April 09, 2010, 02:44:41 PM
1. I'd actually prefer the obscure gem or metal to "Black/White."
2. I'm not entirely sure I'll be getting either.  I think I've grown bored with Pokemon.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Black Mage on April 09, 2010, 03:55:35 PM
You guys are complaining about "Black and White" when the originals were "Red / Blue / Green"?

Uncreative? And this is following such creative names as "Gold and Silver" and "Diamond and Pearl."

We're better than this guys.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Tv_Themes on April 09, 2010, 04:11:12 PM
I just don't like how they flow with each other.

Red/Green = Colors
Gold/Silver = Colors and/or Metals
Ruby/Sapphire = Common Gemstones
Diamond/Pearl = Less Common but more Precious Gemstones
Black/White = Monochromatic Colors

It's like the whole concept is de-evolving.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Turtlekid1 on April 09, 2010, 04:12:20 PM
de-evolving.
Oh please introduce a de-evolution option.  I want a Squirtle with the stats of a Blastoise.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Toad on April 09, 2010, 04:53:52 PM
Pokemon Onyx and Pokemon Beige
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Weegee on April 09, 2010, 08:05:24 PM
Pokemon Teal and Pokemon Puce. Two years later, the remake Pokemon Pale Mauve will be released.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Tv_Themes on April 09, 2010, 08:08:56 PM
I was actually kind of hoping the new games would be fruit-colored themed. Pokemon Lime & Pokemon Lemon.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Turtlekid1 on April 09, 2010, 08:20:16 PM
Hey, now.  These are kids' games.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: ShadowBrain on April 09, 2010, 08:27:59 PM
Pokemon Obsidian could work for Pokemon Black, but I'm not sure about White... Pokemon Ebony and Ivory?
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Turtlekid1 on April 09, 2010, 08:34:31 PM
I suggested the same titles in #tmk and was promptly shot down.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Weegee on April 09, 2010, 08:52:57 PM
Pokemon Ebony and Ivory?

Together in perfect harmony.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Lizard Dude on April 09, 2010, 09:26:38 PM
I would buy a game called Pokémon Lemon just to support the name. I wouldn't play it, but maybe I would frame it.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Nintendoobsessed on April 09, 2010, 10:30:53 PM
Er, nevermind. Sorry...
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: Black Mage on April 09, 2010, 10:32:17 PM
You mean those exact same images posted earlier didn't confirm it?
Title: Re: Pokemon Black & White Confirmed!
Post by: Tv_Themes on April 10, 2010, 10:08:25 AM
http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml

First images are up at Serebii.

It looks really cool! But I now think it's so stupid for Gamefreak to be releasing it now and not wait a few months for the 3DS. I mean, this isn't like the Dreamcast & Shenmue 2, what could they possibly lose by waiting?
Title: Re: Pokemon Black & White Confirmed!
Post by: Turtlekid1 on April 10, 2010, 10:43:32 AM
Neat, it looks like they're starting to take more advantage of the system's 3D capabilities.
Title: Re: Pokemon Black & White Confirmed!
Post by: Weegee on April 10, 2010, 12:49:18 PM
The strange, tilted perspective in several of those shots has captured my interest. It's hard to imagine controlling one's character from a 130-degree angle.
Title: Re: Pokemon Black & White Confirmed!
Post by: Tv_Themes on April 10, 2010, 03:02:47 PM
I'm betting you'd be able to alter the camera angle.
Title: Re: Pokemon Black & White Confirmed!
Post by: Weegee on April 10, 2010, 04:13:27 PM
No doubt I'll sound like a complete technoob for thinking this, but, assuming that Pokemon B/W will be compatible with D/P/Pt/HG/SS, wouldn't some data about them be encrypted in the latter games' programming? D/P/Pt contained location data for Johto, so it's not unheard of...
Title: Re: Pokemon Black & White Confirmed!
Post by: SolidShroom on April 10, 2010, 06:56:27 PM
Well, it'll probably be only one way. D/P/Pt only had stuff for HG/SS because the latter two would only have Pokémon available in the first four generations anyway.
Title: Re: Pokemon Fifth Generation Announced!
Post by: penguinwizard on April 10, 2010, 08:38:50 PM
According to Serebii, more fifth-gen news will be announced on the 11th and 15th. In other words, within the next three days (http://themushroomkingdom.net/board/index.php?topic=12580.msg567503#msg567503).
And it was leaked on April 8, 4 days after, so again you were right.
Title: Re: Pokemon Black & White Confirmed!
Post by: Weegee on April 10, 2010, 09:06:46 PM
:3

Well, it'll probably be only one way. D/P/Pt only had stuff for HG/SS because the latter two would only have Pokémon available in the first four generations anyway.

True. This is the first time that two generations of Pokemon will have been introduced during the same console generation. It seems absurd to not offer full compatability between DS titles like that, though.
Title: Re: Pokemon Black & White Confirmed!
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on April 11, 2010, 06:14:53 PM
I haven't been disappointed by a main entry Pokemon game so far so I'm picking this up for sure.

Yeah, I'm probably a complete cancer for having that mindset, but whatever. I enjoy the games and have no real reason to stop playing if others are still playing and willing to battle/trade with me.
Title: Re: Pokemon Black & White Confirmed!
Post by: Tv_Themes on April 11, 2010, 07:04:03 PM
I'm actually thinking about passing on it for now.

A 3rd Generation will inevitably be released, filled with features that quite frankly should have been there to begin with, and I'll have to waste another $40 to get in on that "expansion."

So for now, I'll just watch as each new Pokemon gets released, as well as story, "Evil" team (which, btw, hasn't been a real threat since Aqua & Magma), NPCs, and American names get released.
Title: Re: Pokemon Black & White Confirmed!
Post by: Black Mage on April 11, 2010, 07:20:08 PM
I haven't been disappointed by a main entry Pokemon game so far so I'm picking this up for sure.

Yeah, I'm probably a complete cancer for having that mindset, but whatever. I enjoy the games and have no real reason to stop playing if others are still playing and willing to battle/trade with me.

Yeah, it's awful to keep buying games you enjoy.

I'm looking forward to this game and will surely enjoy it.
Title: Re: Pokemon Black & White Confirmed!
Post by: Weegee on April 11, 2010, 07:39:00 PM
The day they begin using timed hits/action command/real-time combat elements is the only day I'll stop buying Pokemon games.
Title: Re: Pokemon Black & White Confirmed!
Post by: Turtlekid1 on April 11, 2010, 08:05:16 PM
So for now, I'll just watch as each new Pokemon gets released, as well as story, "Evil" team (which, btw, hasn't been a real threat since Aqua & Magma), NPCs, and American names get released.
A guy trying to destroy the universe and remake it without emotion or spirit isn't a threat?
Title: Re: Pokemon Black & White Confirmed!
Post by: Tv_Themes on April 11, 2010, 08:19:35 PM
A guy trying to destroy the universe and remake it without emotion or spirit isn't a threat?

That was the Ginga-Dan (which is the Galactic's Japanese name, far superior & cooler sounding) plot in Platinum only (which I pretend doesn't exist).

In Diamond & Pearl, I specifically remember them wanting to colonize space, something I dream about seeing during my lifetime.
Title: Re: Pokemon Black & White Confirmed!
Post by: Turtlekid1 on April 11, 2010, 08:42:15 PM
"Ginga-Dan" sounds like the stage-name of a gay stripper.
Title: Re: Pokemon Black & White Confirmed!
Post by: Tv_Themes on April 11, 2010, 09:28:03 PM
It's also part of this semi-boycott I have with the English names of D/P/Pt. NoA refuses to stop this silly game of naming the gym leaders a "pun-ish" name depending on their Type specialties. I mean, there was NOTHING wrong with "Melissa." She looked like a Melissa, and it even seemed like Game Freak did them a favor by already giving her an American name but nope. They had to go change it to "Fantina" just for the sake of their precious Pun names. Same thing with Roark, Byron, and Volkner. All of them I'd prefer to call by their Japanese name.

As for Ginga-Dan, well, "Ginga" translates to "Galaxy" and there wasn't anything wrong with calling them "Team Galaxy" but nope, had to be change happy.
Title: Re: Pokemon Black & White Confirmed!
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on April 12, 2010, 01:26:27 AM
They couldn't use Team Galaxy in the US because that name was already trademarked internationally by Marathon Studios (http://team-galaxy.fr/).

As for the names, do you honestly think the series would be as popular without streamlined, localized names? I don't know how many kids know what a Lizardon is, but I know plenty who think Charizard is cool.
Title: Re: Pokemon Black & White Confirmed!
Post by: Tv_Themes on April 12, 2010, 10:47:48 AM
I'm not saying don't change them (unless they're already localized in the first place, such as Melissa/Fantina), I'm just saying don't give them stupid names that aren't names to begin with (Roark, Volkner, Maylene, and much more) just to be silly with their type specialties.
Title: Re: Pokemon Black & White Confirmed!
Post by: Toad on April 12, 2010, 11:08:36 AM
The P.E. coach in my seventh grade class was named Volkner..
Title: Re: Pokemon Black & White Confirmed!
Post by: Tv_Themes on April 12, 2010, 01:38:24 PM
Then they shouldn't be using obscure names, because I've never heard of anyone named Volkner.
Title: Re: Pokemon Black & White Confirmed!
Post by: CrossEyed7 on April 12, 2010, 02:24:49 PM
Why should they have normal American names? They're not in America, they're in Pokemonland. And the original names are just as punny if you know Japanese.
Title: Re: Pokemon Black & White Confirmed!
Post by: Ninjap00 on April 12, 2010, 07:43:06 PM
Third game in Generation V:
Pokemon Grey
or
Pokemon Mexican
Title: Re: Pokemon Black & White Confirmed!
Post by: Weegee on April 12, 2010, 09:15:08 PM
As shown below, gym leaders' names have been delving deeper and deeper into obscurity with each successive generation. Giving them boring names like "Melissa" would solve that problem, but kill a significant amount of wit. If puntastic names like these are so awful, why shouldn't Nintendo give all Pokemon completely random, nonsensical titles? Besides, Candice's name is a stroke of genius.


Brock: Pun on "rock", common first name
Misty: Pun on "mist" (suspended condensed water), uncommon first name
Lt. Surge: Reference to electrical surges, nonexistent last name
Erika: Reference to the Erica genus of flowers, common name
Koga: Reference to "Kōga-ryū" (a school of ninjutsu), mock-Japanese name acknowledging his ninja background
Sabrina: Unconfirmed reference/pun, common name
Blaine: Pun on "blaze", common last name, uncommon first name
Giovanni: Pun on "geo" (Greek for "earth"), common Italian name, possibly used to draw further parallels between Mafia-type criminal groups and Team Rocket

Falkner: Pun on "falconer" (falcon trainer), common last name, obscure first name
Bugsy: Pun on "bug", uncommon nickname
Whitney: Pun on "white" (often associated with normality/plainness), common first name
Morty: From Latin "mort-" (meaning "death"), nickname for Mortimer or Mordecai
Chuck: Slang "to throw", common nickname for Charles
Jasmine: Possibly a pun on "mineral", uncommon first name
Pryce: Rhymes with "ice", common last name, obscure first name
Clair: Bulbapedia says it's meant to rhyme with "lair" (as in a dragon's lair, but that's stupid), common first name

Roxanne: Pun on "rock", common first name
Brawly: Pun on "brawl" (to fight), obscure nickname
Wattson: Pun on electrical watts, alternate spelling of the common last name "Watson"
Flannery: Pun on "flame", uncommon first name
Norman: Pun on "normal", common first name
Winona: Possible reference to "wind" or "wing", uncommon first name
Tate & Liza: Possible reference to "levitate" when names are combined, relatively uncommon first names
Wallace: Vague pun on "water", common last name, obscure first name

Roark: Pun on "rock", obscure first or last name
Gardenia: Pun on "garden" (also reference to the flower gardenia), nonexistent name
Maylene: Pun on "melee", uncommon first name
Crasher Wake: Pun on "crashing wave" or reference to a vessel's wake, made-up stage name
Fantina: Pun on "phantom" or reference to Les Misérables' character Fantine, obscure first name
Byron: Pun on "iron", uncommon first and last name
Candice: Straight from Bulbapedia: "From the Latin "candita", meaning "clarity; whiteness". Contains ice", uncommon first name
Volkner: Pun on "volt", name often given to retarded kids whose retarded parents can't think of actual names
Title: Re: Pokemon Black & White Confirmed!
Post by: Tv_Themes on April 13, 2010, 09:48:52 AM
I always thought "Sabrina" was a reference to the titular Teenage Witch from Archie comics. Or, people from my generation would better remember her from the late 90s ABC Sitcom starring Melissa Joan Hart.
Title: Re: Pokemon Black & White Confirmed!
Post by: Lizard Dude on April 13, 2010, 10:58:38 AM
Melissa Joan Hart-> JOINS A HAREM LAST

Oops wrong thread.
Title: Re: Pokemon Black & White Confirmed!
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on April 17, 2010, 08:58:06 PM
Pokemon Sunday revealed the first gameplay footage. That of course being the female trainer walking around town, and the hosts sold it like they were witnessing God himself.

There was also a two second clip of Zorua and Zoroark in battle doing absolutely nothing.

Hooray.
Title: Re: Pokemon Black & White Confirmed!
Post by: penguinwizard on April 17, 2010, 09:32:43 PM
So, par for the course then?

...Kirby had his own golf game, Kirby's Dream Course or something. We need a Pokemon golf game, one where we smack Pikachu around.
Yes, that was a lame segue.
Title: Re: Pokemon Black & White Confirmed!
Post by: Jman on April 18, 2010, 09:03:38 AM
So, par for the course then?

...Kirby had his own golf game, Kirby's Dream Course or something. We need a Pokemon golf game, one where we smack Pikachu around.
Yes, that was a lame segue.

Agreed.  Kirby's Dream Course is an awesome game (I say "is" because I got it on Virtual Console and still play it to this day).  If they do it in a similar fashion, a Pokemon golf game would be phenomenal.  Even if they did a real golf game for Pokemon in the style of Mario Golf, it would be awesome.  Maybe you could face off against the town's gym leader in a championship round or something (similar to Battle Revolution where you would fight the leader of the stadium after winning several battles in a row). 
Title: Re: Pokemon Black & White Confirmed!
Post by: Weegee on April 18, 2010, 11:26:55 AM
There was also a two second clip of Zorua and Zoroark in battle doing absolutely nothing.

On the contrary, it was a heavily-pixelated cardboard printout of a magazine scan of a clip of Zorua and Zoraoark in battle. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XetPMIFoojk)
Title: Re: Pokemon Black & White Confirmed!
Post by: Phred on April 18, 2010, 07:01:23 PM
On the contrary, it was a heavily-pixelated cardboard printout of a magazine scan of a clip of Zorua and Zoraoark in battle. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XetPMIFoojk)
Gotta love Pokémon Sunday. The preview didn't say anything about more info next week, but I guess I'll tune in anyways.
Title: Re: Pokemon Black & White Confirmed!
Post by: Weegee on April 25, 2010, 09:38:02 PM
Arceus' baby form revealed:

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdl9.glitter-graphics.net%2Fpub%2F570%2F570779gdjj788y2z.jpg&hash=b0f97579292b0be7742c9f495106618c)
Title: Re: Pokemon Black & White Confirmed!
Post by: Purple_Goomba on April 26, 2010, 10:00:51 PM
What do you guys think Zoroark's typing will be?  I think that it will either be Dark / Fighting or a new type introduced in B/W.
Title: Re: Pokemon Black & White Confirmed!
Post by: Weegee on April 27, 2010, 01:49:35 PM
Dark. (http://www.serebii.net/blackwhite/pokemon.shtml)
Title: Re: Pokemon Black & White Confirmed!
Post by: Purple_Goomba on April 27, 2010, 03:35:40 PM
^  Well that destroyed my question.  How about we guess whats it's English name is going to be.
Title: Re: Pokemon Black & White Confirmed!
Post by: ShadowBrain on April 27, 2010, 05:50:55 PM
Dox?
Title: Re: Pokemon Black & White Confirmed!
Post by: CrossEyed7 on April 27, 2010, 05:54:34 PM
Zoroak's typing
Hopefully it's better than yours.

...You know, since you misspelled his name.





...ICEBURN
Title: Re: Pokemon Black & White Confirmed!
Post by: Chupperson Weird on April 27, 2010, 06:55:23 PM
I don't know why they would change it; it's a perfectly good fox-derived name.
Title: Re: Pokemon Black & White Confirmed!
Post by: CongressionalWombat on May 04, 2010, 04:14:13 PM
I'm more excited about the fifth generation Pokemon than the actual games themselves. I can't wait to see what new Pokemon we'll get, and how it changes the metagame (since I really only get excited about the competitive aspects of Pokemon, sadly).
Title: Re: Pokemon Black & White Confirmed!
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on May 06, 2010, 02:20:21 AM
Maybe I'll finally be able to use my Garchomp without people claiming he's broken.

It'd also be nice if Farfetch'd gained an evolution and stopped being completely useless.
Title: Re: Pokemon Black & White Confirmed!
Post by: CongressionalWombat on May 06, 2010, 06:19:44 PM
There's always going to be that one "broken", overused Pokemon... Currently being Scizor, but he deserved some time in the sunlight, being so snazzy-lookin' and all. I wouldn't mind them making Garchomp OU again, at least for a little while. Just to see how it would change things. Of course I finish training mine right when it becomes Uber...

I have mixed feelings about a Farfetch'd evolution. I'd only want one if it was INCREDIBLY bad ass. He needs to be amazing. He has to. D:
Title: Re: Pokemon Black & White Confirmed!
Post by: Weegee on May 06, 2010, 06:46:35 PM
It'd also be nice if Farfetch'd gained an evolution and stopped being completely useless.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Farfetch'd is tied with Shuckle as my second-favourite Pokemon, and giving it an evolution would make me feel obligated to let it become an inevitably ugly creature.
Title: Re: Pokemon Black & White Confirmed!
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on May 06, 2010, 07:30:45 PM
Farfetch'd and Shuckle, are you serious.

I mean wow. Please don't tell me Luvdisc is your #1 favorite.
Title: Re: Pokemon Black & White Confirmed!
Post by: Turtlekid1 on May 06, 2010, 07:42:01 PM
Hey, at least Shuckle is semi-usable defensively.
Title: Re: Pokemon Black & White Confirmed!
Post by: Weegee on May 06, 2010, 08:26:40 PM
They aren't my favourites in terms of usability, you silly geese. They're just awesome.

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F29.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_kuwxitcYHq1qzv9mho1_500.jpg&hash=9cf77619f6e5e99f6004c850cc657d7a)(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffc02.deviantart.net%2Ffs29%2Ff%2F2008%2F156%2F7%2Ff%2FDo_the_Shuckle_Huckle_by_Gumbogamer.png&hash=6c368243280a89c7964d6bfa9a6f0176)
Title: Re: Pokemon Black & White Confirmed!
Post by: Turtlekid1 on May 06, 2010, 08:43:43 PM
Point taken; that second pic especially is prime Y"A,"YL material.
Title: Re: Pokemon Black & White Confirmed!
Post by: CongressionalWombat on May 07, 2010, 10:18:57 PM
D'AWWW BABY FARFETCH'D BUM~ <3

*ding ding*

IT'S THE BATTLE OF THE BUMS, 2010.

Attempting to take baby Farfetch'd's title away from him, weighing in at 52.9lbs, THE BOOTYLICIOUS SLAKOOOTTHHHH:

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi580.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fss247%2FStalkerChan%2F45-slakoth.jpg&hash=3a339acd7cc9f8ab997956d51b987fc0)

Who will take the title? Find out... NEXT TIME!

Anyway. My favorites tend to be things that I battle with a lot. So if I can win with something, I'll automatically like it (with the exception of Caterpie and Spheal, which I love love love but would never think of using). Moltres, Forretress, Honchkrow, Politoed, Cradily, Tyranitar... The list goes on.
Title: Re: Pokemon Black & White Confirmed!
Post by: Black Mage on May 07, 2010, 10:24:59 PM
Oh hey, it's Bidoof.

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpokemon.marriland.com%2Fimages%2Fcards%2Fmt%2Fbig%2Fmt_73_bidoof.jpg&hash=68c7758056599f5fb6f02d677b0823ef)
Title: Re: Pokemon Black & White Confirmed!
Post by: Weegee on May 08, 2010, 12:19:47 AM
Politoed

Lolwut? Sorry, but Politoed is anything but a prominent name in competitive battling. Just sayin'.
Title: Re: Pokemon Black & White Confirmed!
Post by: Glorb on May 08, 2010, 03:23:10 PM
Where did CW and Black Mage get those photos of Weegee?
Title: Re: Pokemon Black & White Confirmed!
Post by: CongressionalWombat on May 08, 2010, 03:51:07 PM
Lolwut? Sorry, but Politoed is anything but a prominent name in competitive battling. Just sayin'.

Just because it's not OU doesn't necessarily mean it's terrible. I've beaten out many OU teams using it. While it looks to be a much less capable version of Vaporeon, it really is quite the wonderful Pokemon (I myself have actually never used Vaporeon, though). But it has saved me many times. Takes special hits amazingly well. I can Toxic, Perish Song if something begins to set up on me, Refresh if I myself get status on me... And STAB Surf to quicken the process. So I mainly play mine as a Toxic staller, although there are several different moves it can use.

And don't even get me started on Cradily's ability to crush teams.
Title: Re: Pokemon Black & White Confirmed!
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on May 08, 2010, 06:02:55 PM
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi52.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg16%2FMidgetBottle%2F1273361297532.png&hash=c3b8ec811fda0455f6e4847bf5fba78f)

Sup.
Title: Re: Pokemon Black & White Confirmed!
Post by: CongressionalWombat on May 08, 2010, 07:53:29 PM
I'm going to take a wild and most likely inaccurate guess that from left to right, it's Grass, Fire, and Water.

The one on the right looks downright beaver-esque. While the one on the left appears to have some sort of leaf formation on the tip of its tail, leaving only the middle to be fire, simply because.
Title: Re: Pokemon Black & White Confirmed!
Post by: Nintendoobsessed on May 08, 2010, 09:02:23 PM
Eh, I thought the one on the left is fire (Fire-ish image on tail tip), top is grass, and right water...

Does anyone think I should just change the topic name to "Pokemon Topic"?
Title: Re: Pokemon Black & White Confirmed!
Post by: Weegee on May 08, 2010, 09:30:33 PM
That, or perhaps "Pokemon News".

The objects on the leftmost figure's tail look more like leaves than flames, so I'm siding with Wombat in terms of types. It's odd how all three appear to be mammalian in origin.

Just watch Game Freak troll us all by revealing them to be Rock-, Flying- and Fighting-types.
Title: Re: Pokemon Black & White Confirmed!
Post by: CongressionalWombat on May 08, 2010, 11:00:57 PM
I doubt Pokemon is ready to do that just yet. I think the Fire/Water/Grass trio can make it a generation or so longer, but it would be interesting to have it switched up for at least one game.
Title: Re: Pokemon Black & White Confirmed!
Post by: Lizard Dude on May 08, 2010, 11:28:45 PM
Yes, surely Pokémon is not yet ready to take that big step and change up the starter types. They've only been making miniscule variations of the exact same (bad) game for fifteen years straight.
Title: Re: Pokemon Black & White Confirmed!
Post by: PaperLuigi on May 08, 2010, 11:56:28 PM
Lizard Dude, why are you wasting your time commenting in a thread dedicated to a game you hate?

Title: Re: Pokemon Black & White Confirmed!
Post by: Lizard Dude on May 08, 2010, 11:58:05 PM
I'm a lifetime competitor of the Special Olympics.
Title: Re: Pokemon Black & White Confirmed!
Post by: PaperLuigi on May 09, 2010, 12:02:49 AM
-________-

Ah, why do I even bother...
Title: Re: Pokemon Black & White Confirmed!
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on May 09, 2010, 12:04:41 AM
I'm a lifetime competitor of the Special Olympics.

Saved.
Title: Re: Pokemon Black & White Confirmed!
Post by: CongressionalWombat on May 09, 2010, 08:46:28 AM
Yes, surely Pokémon is not yet ready to take that big step and change up the starter types. They've only been making miniscule variations of the exact same (bad) game for fifteen years straight.

Nintendo will keep milking the same formula to making Pokemon games for as long as they can. It keeps selling, so why change it? Even though changing up the starter Pokemon's types doesn't seem that big of an issue, it messes with tradition. I honestly don't think they'll try the idea for a long time, if ever. Of course I'll be pleasantly surprised if they do happen to do it. Eh, doesn't matter much to me.

People who never seemed to find the joy in pitting fuzzy video game creatures against each other in merciless acts of violence puzzle me.
Title: Re: Pokemon Black & White Confirmed!
Post by: ShadowBrain on May 09, 2010, 06:19:08 PM
I find joy in it, just not in paying $35 to do it slightly differently every four years or so.
Title: Re: Pokemon Black & White Confirmed!
Post by: CongressionalWombat on May 09, 2010, 07:18:54 PM
Oh, believe me, I'd love it if they changed it up so that I could actually find pleasure in playing through the game. But as long as they keep creating new Pokemon, I'll be buying the games.
Title: Re: Pokemon Black & White Confirmed!
Post by: Captain Jim on May 12, 2010, 05:34:17 AM
 And here are the starters. (http://pokebeach.com/news/0510/corocoro-pokemon-black-white-starters-1.jpg)

I like the grass one, and surprisingly kinda like the firepig.
Title: Re: Pokemon Black & White Confirmed!
Post by: Turtlekid1 on May 12, 2010, 06:42:54 AM
Well pigs are awesome, so in the unlikely event of my getting any of the Fifth-Gen games, that one will be my starter.
Title: Re: Pokemon Black & White Confirmed!
Post by: PaperLuigi on May 12, 2010, 12:19:57 PM
I like the fire one definitely. Pigs are one of my favorite animals. The water one looks...uncreative.

The grass one looks cool I suppose.
Title: Re: Pokemon Black & White Confirmed!
Post by: Purple_Goomba on May 12, 2010, 12:35:03 PM
I like the grass and fire ones.  I don't really like the water one.  I also noticed that we haven't had any grass starters that isn't reptilian.
Title: Re: Pokemon Black & White Confirmed!
Post by: Kojinka on May 12, 2010, 03:32:27 PM
Let's see.  If I had to choose between a flaming pig, a Bibarel recolor, and another grass lizard, my first pick would be the grass lizard.  I haven't really been fond of the fire starters since Cyndaquil.  Here's the pattern I seem to have with starters.
Kanto: Fire (grass and water tied as my second choice)
Johto: Fire (grass would be my second choice, but I really don't want to see my beloved Cyndaquil in the hands of Giovanni Jr.)
Hoenn: Water (Grass was my second choice)
Sinnoh: Water (I don't care for monkeys, but fire would probably be my second choice)
Gen 5: Grass

Some day, I'd like to see a cat-like starter.
Title: Re: Pokemon Black & White Confirmed!
Post by: Turtlekid1 on May 12, 2010, 03:54:07 PM
Heck, I wouldn't mind seeing a cat-like 'mon that's actually useful in combat.
Title: Re: Pokemon Black & White Confirmed!
Post by: Black Mage on May 12, 2010, 03:58:34 PM
Squirtle > Charmander > Bulbasaur
Totodile > Cyndaquil > Chikorita
Mudkip > Treeko > Torchic
Piplup > Turtwig > Chimchar

This is the first time the water starter is completely undesirable. We're talking Chikorita levels of undesire.

I've never picked the grass starter first, but unless that Water thing gets one hell of a sweet evolution, I'm going with Mr. Grass thing.
Title: Re: Pokemon Black & White Confirmed!
Post by: Ninjap00 on May 12, 2010, 04:03:04 PM
THE INTERNET HAS NAMED THE GRASS STARTER: Smugleaf
Title: Re: Pokemon Black & White Confirmed!
Post by: Nintendoobsessed on May 12, 2010, 05:11:35 PM
I've...I've never chosen the grass starter, but now...dang, I like that grass starter!
Title: Re: Pokemon Black & White Confirmed!
Post by: PaperLuigi on May 12, 2010, 05:20:19 PM
I picked Squirtle in the first game.

I picked Totodile in the second game.

I picked Mudkip in the third game.

And I picked Piplup in the fourth game.

So...this will be the first time that I won't be picking a water type. Wow.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: PaperLuigi on May 12, 2010, 10:45:43 PM
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Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: N64 Chick on May 13, 2010, 09:56:16 AM
Um...uh...wow... That water starter looks like a cross between Piplup and Bidoof with goodness-knows thrown in for kicks. I'll probably pick it anyway since I have a thing for water starters. Besides, there's more to Pokémon than looks.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Black Mage on May 13, 2010, 08:05:46 PM
Do not insult Bidoof with your unsubstantiated comparisons and lies.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: CrossEyed7 on May 13, 2010, 11:39:41 PM
Let's see... I picked Chikorita in HeartGold, then when I borrowed Silver from my girlfriend, I picked Cyndaquil so I could name him Bowser. Then got annoyed when the cave was a lot tougher without a grass-type. Then I played a little bit of Yellow, so yeah. I'll probably pick Smugleaf when I get Gray... although the more I look at Bunnypig, the more he grows on me.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on May 14, 2010, 01:19:51 AM
I like the trainer designs. The boy looks relatively normal after the fashion models we had for the last 2 gens, and he seems like a chill guy. The girl is just shamelessly fanservice and I love it. I just find it weird how one's dressed for the cold while the other looks like a resident of Phoenix, Arizona. Since this region is supposed to be far away, maybe we'll finally get a pseudo-America in the games?

The starters took a bit for me to warm up to, but they're all good. The fire one looks the most unique and I'm tempted to get him because he seems to have a lot more potential, even though Fire-types are horrendous. The grass starter oozes of cool and is already becoming popular, but he seems like he could be a Sceptile-rehash. He's being made specifically for Gen 5 though, so he won't be screwed over by Phys/Spe split. The water one looks like an obvious attempt at capturing Piplup's charm, but he's starting to stand out to me. If he also has a unique dual type, I'm all for choosing him. In general, there's no one here that looks significantly better than the others so my decision on who to start with remains up in the air.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Black Mage on May 14, 2010, 07:59:04 AM
Let's see... I picked Chikorita in HeartGold, then when I borrowed Silver from my girlfriend, I picked Cyndaquil so I could name him Bowser. Then got annoyed when the cave was a lot tougher without a grass-type. Then I played a little bit of Yellow, so yeah. I'll probably pick Smugleaf when I get Gray... although the more I look at Bunnypig, the more he grows on me.

You borrowed your girlfriend's copy to wipe her saved game? That's rough, man.

I like the trainer designs. The boy looks relatively normal after the fashion models we had for the last 2 gens, and he seems like a chill guy. The girl is just shamelessly fanservice and I love it.

Mr. Wiggles, I have the hardest time getting through your posts.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Turtlekid1 on May 14, 2010, 09:16:15 AM
How is the girl any more fan service-y than May or Dawn?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: CrossEyed7 on May 14, 2010, 12:26:30 PM
You borrowed your girlfriend's copy to wipe her saved game? That's rough, man.
She has her save backed up with a GameShark or something.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on May 14, 2010, 01:40:12 PM
Mr. Wiggles, I have the hardest time getting through your posts.

I can't tell if this is a case of "I see what you did there" or if you actually mean that.

Quote
How is the girl any more fan service-y than May or Dawn?

Them ripped shorts man.

I've already seen lots of fanart for everyone revealed so far. Love how the grass starter has been made into a smug, arrogant jerk and the water starter is very emotional. Also, female trainer is given a Boston/New York accent in a lot of drawings I've seen, while the male just stands there looking awesome.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on May 15, 2010, 07:28:09 PM
Double postan.

Pokemon Sunday showed some more footage today. New stuff revealed was moving stationary sprites, Zoraork's ability in action, and the overworld getting a bit of a rehaul. NPCs seem more lively and can be moved out of your way, as well as holding convo's when you aren't speaking to them.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Black Mage on May 15, 2010, 08:38:14 PM
They also showed some of the animated battle system with the new starters.

High Def video here: http://www.filb.de/forum/showthread.php?t=4388&from=1306
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Turtlekid1 on May 15, 2010, 08:40:10 PM
I'm definitely liking the relatively high amount of detail in the new battle screen.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on May 16, 2010, 01:15:45 PM
The Water starter looks like absolute [dukar].

Too bad I'll be picking it, as always.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: PaperLuigi on May 16, 2010, 01:43:28 PM
The Water starter looks like absolute [dukar].

Come on man, one more comment like that might push it to commit self-fainting.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Hacker Pikachu 25 on May 16, 2010, 10:21:52 PM
I'm probably gonna get "Smugleaf" or the water one. Spoink was enough bacon.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Kojinka on May 17, 2010, 07:49:32 AM
I didn't care for the water starter initially, but he looks kind of cute in the fanart.
Also, I really wish we could have a female hero trainer with less revealing clothing.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Turtlekid1 on May 28, 2010, 12:43:05 PM
New Mascots (http://www.pokemon.com/blackwhite/en/)?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: PaperLuigi on May 28, 2010, 01:04:09 PM
Ugh, they look terrible...
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Captain Jim on May 28, 2010, 01:47:58 PM
I like the black one. It looks like a Metal Gear, plus it has a huge drill on its tail.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on May 28, 2010, 02:24:36 PM
My guess is that they'll being instituting Light-type Pokemon, and that Reshiram and Zekrom will be Light/Dragon and Dark/Dragon, respectively.

Ugh, they look terrible...

They both look like rejected concept art for Palkia. However, you must admit that Reshiram is hung like a horse.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Turtlekid1 on May 28, 2010, 03:07:35 PM
I like the black one. It looks like a Metal Gear, plus it has a huge drill on its tail.
You like Palkia? 

Because that's pretty much what Zekrom is, except it doesn't have a head and neck that remind one of the male reproductive organ.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Captain Jim on May 28, 2010, 03:16:19 PM
The body is different enough that it doesn't look exactly like Palkia to me. And the biggest turn off of Palkia was the head. But yes, Palkia's general shape otherwise did resemble a Metal Gear.

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmoonside.kontek.net%2Fscreenshots%2Fbrawl%2Fmetalgearpalkia.jpg&hash=d3d2818b54c79b1efad9563953859187)

And I like Metal Gears. Plus the coloration change reinforces that.

...and again, I like drills.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: PaperLuigi on May 28, 2010, 05:56:29 PM
I like the black one. It looks like a Metal Gear, plus it has a huge drill on its tail.

Huh. Never thought of Zekrom like that...

Wow, that makes him way cooler.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: penguinwizard on May 28, 2010, 09:10:53 PM
btw, the whole Internet's already picked up on Reshiram's crotch fuzz, so anything you say has probably already been said. Except... every time I look at it it's just... REALLY out there and blatant that I can't think of it existing for any other reason. I'll be eagerly awaiting the public response over it. I mean, the guys who did Super Punch-Out just barely got away with Heike Kagero (the guy who wore no shirt yet looked like a woman), made me wonder how many letters Nintendo got over that. Does Nintendo want that to happen again?

Ursurp from the GameFAQs Pokemon Black forum says it best:
Quote from: Ursurp
Zekrom has his whole mecha-Slowbro thing going for him and a jaw that could bite through adamantium.
Reshiram has an enormous wing-crotch that strikes fear into the hearts of his foes.

This will be the hardest decision of my life.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on May 31, 2010, 07:57:29 PM
Zekrom: Dragon/Electric-type? (http://serebii.net/index2.shtml)

By the way, the creature bears an uncanny resemblance to Final Fantasy IV's Proto-Babil:

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages1.wikia.nocookie.net%2Ffinalfantasy%2Fimages%2F9%2F97%2FFFIV_Protobabil_ds.png&hash=beb14c3c4b360e591e830d5ce8d36a37)
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: CongressionalWombat on June 02, 2010, 01:23:44 AM
I doubt they'll introduce a Light type, ever. The types are already pretty balanced, and we've already got sixteen of them as it is (I think sixteen? Meh). Reshiram looks like a cross between Suicune and Lugia, if you ask me. With an added boner, of course.

Any opinions on Latias being banished to Ubers? Or how you feel about Salamence being tested next?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: PaperLuigi on June 02, 2010, 01:47:46 AM
The majority of us do not play Pokemon competitively.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on June 02, 2010, 06:07:09 PM
Why Latias? Salamence would makes sense, with its stats being so similar to those of Garchomp.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: The Guy on June 02, 2010, 06:20:38 PM
The majority of us do not play Pokemon competitively.

Including me. And I'm on Serebii AND Bulbagarden, so that's saying a lot. Then again, calculating EV's and IV's is too much for my little 10-year old brain to handle, I suppose. So I don't really give a crud about Latias "Being banished to Ubers."
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Alisbet on June 03, 2010, 06:50:24 AM
Including me. And I'm on Serebii AND Bulbagarden, so that's saying a lot. Then again, calculating EV's and IV's is too much for my little 10-year old brain to handle, I suppose. So I don't really give a crud about Latias "Being banished to Ubers."


Well, all that I can say is deal with it.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: PaperLuigi on June 03, 2010, 09:38:28 AM
Then again, calculating EV's and IV's is too much for my little 10-year old brain to handle, I suppose.

It's not as difficult as it looks. Individual Values will always be the same, regardless of who you battle. There's a formula for it online somewhere. Effort Values on the other hand, are a different story. Getting the right ones by battling the right Pokemon can be highly tedious.

(I'm only mentioning this because I EV trained my Houndoom and Blissey just recently. Yes, I am a loser).
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Turtlekid1 on June 03, 2010, 01:18:55 PM
I wouldn't be able to EV train anything without my trusty Pokerus carriers and Macho Brace.  Of course, even then, it takes a while; and it's not worth it unless you're going to use your 'mons competitively, since regular grinding will work against NPCs in the main game.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: CongressionalWombat on June 03, 2010, 03:40:18 PM
If you don't play competitively, you should try. It's really not as hard as you would think, and it really does bring more life into the games. I've been competitive for three years and I'm happy I did it.

I'm honestly not that familiar with Latias, to be honest. I never used it in the months that it was OU, and whenever it was used against me I honestly didn't have much trouble with it because I love to run banded Careful specially defensive Tyranitar, which is basically BUILT to kill Latias. But Latias is amazing at sweeping, and support, so I understand why it went to Ubers. It was just dominating the metagame.

Salamence, if you ask me, is more of a threat than Latias. At least with Latias you know she's going to hit you from the special side. With Salamence it's a completely different story. Something is going to get hit hard, or he's going to be able to set up before you know the set, and by then it's too late a lot of the time. Salamence is extremely unpredictable and therefore doesn't truly have a counter. Even though Choice Band Scizor can deal with it alright after Stealth Rock and one turn of Life Orb damage.

EVing is really confusing and frustrating if you don't know what you're doing. But after you do it for long enough you get it down to a neat little system. I just breed, IV check, level them up, de-EV them, vitamins, infect with Pokerus, EV train. Of course it helps if you have the Power Items, which turns one Bidoof into 10 HP EVs and makes it much, much faster. IVs are more frustrating since you can't control them as easily. I don't exactly breed for IVs, simply because I'm lazy. Though I'd like to teach myself how. I simply breed six of the same thing, same natures and all that, and IV check those. So at least there's a little bit of control with that.

Overall, Pokesav = Must have.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Turtlekid1 on June 03, 2010, 04:20:57 PM
Pretty much everyone on this board will eat you alive for that Pokesav comment.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on June 03, 2010, 04:34:22 PM
Pokesav is good if you don't want to waste your time grinding all day.

Then again, you wouldn't need to do either if you weren't playing Pokemon.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Black Mage on June 03, 2010, 05:09:15 PM
Can't say I approve of cheating, but eh.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on June 03, 2010, 06:21:09 PM
I don't consider using PokeSav "cheating" unless it's employed to create impossible Pokemon. It's like buying produce at a market rather than growing it yourself, while cheating with PokeSav is like growing genetically-enhanced crops which are rightfully banned by the FDA.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Toad on June 03, 2010, 07:54:48 PM
I'm honestly not that familiar with Latias, to be honest.

Somebody better call the Department of Redundancy Department.

I've been thinking about playing Pokemon competitivley, but my wireless internet has put a hold on that..
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: CongressionalWombat on June 03, 2010, 08:49:54 PM
Disliking Pokesav simply because it's "cheating" is incredibly dumb to me. You try breeding for a Pokemon with amazing IVs, and the correct Hidden Power, then talk to me. Don't like it, don't use it, but you cannot deny how incredibly useful and practical it is when playing competitively. Unless you're thinking about the small percentage of people who use it to completely ruin the experience of the game.

How was my Latias comment redundant? I'm able to not be a complete expert on a Pokemon, but still have an opinion on it. I know enough about it to form an opinion of whether or not it should be Uber.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on June 03, 2010, 09:01:39 PM
honestly
to be honest

Redundant use of honesty is redundant.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: CongressionalWombat on June 03, 2010, 09:23:53 PM
Ah. Just ignore my small vocabulary, then. I'll begin being more conscious about that, and attempt to spice it up a bit. Excuse me.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Black Mage on June 04, 2010, 02:58:14 PM
I don't consider using PokeSav "cheating" unless it's employed to create impossible Pokemon. It's like buying produce at a market rather than growing it yourself, while cheating with PokeSav is like growing genetically-enhanced crops which are rightfully banned by the FDA.

You can justify it however you want, but you're still obtaining Pokemon with perfect stats with no effort. Those without an Action Replay have to put time and effort in to get the equivalent. It's like obtaining a top score without the effort.

Disliking Pokesav simply because it's "cheating" is incredibly dumb to me. You try breeding for a Pokemon with amazing IVs, and the correct Hidden Power, then talk to me. Don't like it, don't use it, but you cannot deny how incredibly useful and practical it is when playing competitively. Unless you're thinking about the small percentage of people who use it to completely ruin the experience of the game.

I have and do. I IV breed myself without the use of Pokesav/Action Replay. Not all of my Pokemon have all perfect 31 IVs, because that's increadibly time consuming to do so. And in my opinion, that's how it should be.

I don't like it and I don't use it. I would never deny that it's useful or practical because you're getting something for nothing. Of course it's going to be easier.

I play competitively without the use of a Pokesav. I find it rewarding to put my best effort into raising a Pokemon and using it how it is. Others don't, and circumvent the process using Pokesav. I'm not saying anyone shouldn't use it, and don't care if they do, but I call it cheating and disapprove of it because that's what it is.

Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: PaperLuigi on June 04, 2010, 04:08:43 PM
Not all of my Pokemon have all perfect 31 IVs, because that's increadibly time consuming to do so. And in my opinion, that's how it should be.

In competitive play you won't need perfect IVs anyway. You just need perfect IVs for certain attributes. Blissey won't benefit much from 31 Attack IVs. :P
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Turtlekid1 on June 04, 2010, 04:25:12 PM
I think what CW is trying to point out is that games are supposed to be fun, and IV/Moveset Breeding and EV Training are only fun if you enjoy copious amounts of grinding.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Kojinka on June 04, 2010, 04:47:29 PM
Some of us don't battle competitively period.  Many of us are just trying to fill up our pokedexes, and get as many as legitimately possible.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Black Mage on June 04, 2010, 05:21:21 PM
I think what CW is trying to point out is that games are supposed to be fun, and IV/Moveset Breeding and EV Training are only fun if you enjoy copious amounts of grinding.

Pretty sure I addressed that. Not everyone enjoys grinding and understandably so. This often results in many people using PokeSav because they don't want to put the time in. That's fine, but it's still cheating. They're illegitimately obtaining Pokemon that they otherwise would have to spend time working on.

I'm not condemning anyone for using a PokeSav, I just don't like to see people attempt to justify it away.

Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: CongressionalWombat on June 07, 2010, 03:09:16 PM
Yeah, I think I was being a bit harsh when I said that I thought it was stupid that people would dislike Pokesav because it's cheating. It's perfectly understandable that a lot of people would rather train up their Pokemon legitimately. However, I'll still stand by Pokesav wholeheartedly. The majority of us just don't have the time or patience to make the perfect Pokemon, but still want to play competitively, and that's what truly makes Pokesav wonderful. I still love training up a legit Pokemon every now and then.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Lizard Dude on June 07, 2010, 03:19:51 PM
What exactly do you people mean when you keep saying "play competitively". Because to me that means tournaments.

Which usually don't allow cheating AFAIK.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: WarpRattler on June 07, 2010, 04:30:56 PM
They probably just mean playing multiplayer. No one goes to Pokémon tournaments.

On the other hand, Pokésav lets you alter so many parameters that it's easy to make a Pokémon in it that is impossible to distinguish from a Pokémon you actually trained, so who knows?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: CongressionalWombat on June 10, 2010, 10:14:24 PM
Competitive play is paying attention to EVs, IVs, movesets, following clauses- the works, against other people who do the same. And that usually involves wifi unless you happen to be lucky enough to live in an area with many other people that play competitively as well. Unless you use Shoddy Battle or something.

Pretty much no one goes to tournaments. I know nothing about actual tournaments that are held places. But no one goes to them, so meh.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on June 10, 2010, 10:35:50 PM
I wish that that EVs and IVs didn't exist. Natures alone offer plenty of variety for stats, and breeding for a desired Nature is much less tedious than EV training... with the exception of my Modest Ledyba, which took me nearly 120 eggs. But yeah.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Kojinka on June 10, 2010, 10:58:01 PM
I got Pokerus!  I don't EV train, but I'm spreading it for the heck of it!
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Nintendoobsessed on June 11, 2010, 10:39:56 AM
Lots of new Pokemon revealed, and new professor (Woman!):

Serebii.net
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: penguinwizard on June 11, 2010, 03:12:38 PM
Gear? Seriously? Why not have a rolling chair with eyes? Or a mop?

Wow, just noticed for the Pokemon Black Japanese cover that the text is covering the lower half of Reshiram. Coincidence or intentional? ...or maybe because that's where the title goes anyway.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on June 11, 2010, 08:03:14 PM
I'm diggin' that Pigeon Pokemon, despite its overt resemblance to Starly.

Magnemite's ******* cousin deserves the Most Creative Name award.

Lawl, MILF professor.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: PaperLuigi on June 11, 2010, 08:46:59 PM
The alligator thing looks moderately cool. The others (especially the gear and the ape) look uncreative and dull.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: CrossEyed7 on June 11, 2010, 09:42:43 PM
Shimama has an awesome name and is a zebra, and Chiramii is a freakin' chinchilla. I want.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on June 11, 2010, 10:55:39 PM
The alligator looks like Hippopotas' reptilian counterpart. Just an observation.

I won't be satisfied until a capybara Pokemon is unveiled.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Black Mage on June 11, 2010, 10:57:44 PM
The alligator and fire baboon are the best of the lot.

Not crazy about this gen's Rattata, Pidgey, or the floating pink thing, but the rest are ok.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on June 11, 2010, 11:10:00 PM
The ape is one of the most hideously uninspired Pokemon I've ever seen, but whatever. I'm most partial to the pigeon, but no doubt its evolution will be terrible.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Black Mage on June 11, 2010, 11:15:06 PM
Guess we'll have to disagree.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Lizard Dude on June 12, 2010, 01:41:09 AM
My heart belongs to GEAR. I always wanted to beat up other POKéMON using two attached gears, each having lost its left eye in a tragic childhood accident.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on June 12, 2010, 01:10:33 PM
If Gear's evolution is a trio of identical cogs, I expect a prize.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Turtlekid1 on June 12, 2010, 04:46:56 PM
And if it's not, the designer is a cogblocker.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: PaperLuigi on June 12, 2010, 04:58:54 PM
Zing.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Kojinka on June 23, 2010, 12:41:31 PM
A chinchilla pokemon!  Even though it will most likely be Gen V's Ratatta/Zigzagoon, do want!
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Captain Jim on June 27, 2010, 08:51:08 PM
Triple Battles.

Also a sarcophagus with shadowy hands, and electric tarantula, and a dinosaur  thing with blades on the side of its head. I want them all. 
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Ninjap00 on June 27, 2010, 08:57:43 PM
a dinosaur  thing with blades on the side of its head.
It's a praying mantis.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Captain Jim on June 27, 2010, 09:02:08 PM
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg697.imageshack.us%2Fimg697%2F1381%2Fohasutanewpokemon1.jpg&hash=12fd56576ea871286de06d1226dce01f)

Well, sure looked reptilian to me.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Turtlekid1 on June 27, 2010, 09:09:34 PM
It looks like bipedal Giratina to me.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Captain Jim on June 27, 2010, 09:11:28 PM
I don't care what anyone thinks, I will capture one of these axe-headed beasts and name it BERSERKER.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: CrossEyed7 on June 27, 2010, 09:18:11 PM
I was kinda hoping they'd just go ahead and do sextuple battles.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on June 27, 2010, 09:20:51 PM
Gay rival is gay. (http://serebii.net/blackwhite/trainer.jpg)

Triple battles seem like overkill to me, but whatever. The new battle option, "Shooter", has me more intrigued than anything else.

Dibs on the amoeba/bacteria Pokemon on the left of the following screenshot. By the way...
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Alisbet on June 28, 2010, 06:42:51 AM
Pokemon has intrigued me for some reason even though I am not a Pokemon fan per se.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: PaperLuigi on June 28, 2010, 04:53:43 PM
I don't like these new ones. They look worse than the last bunch they revealed.

This makes me not want to buy Black/White.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on June 28, 2010, 05:41:26 PM
I recently restarted Emerald, and I noticed that Professor Birch can't identify the gender of his own child. No matter whether it's Brendan or May, the professor only refers to his child as "my kid". Similarly, multiple-hit attacks like Fury Swipes always say, "Hit X time(s)!", even if it hits only once before KO'ing the foe. Is it really that difficult to alter dialogue based on variables such as a character's gender?

Fixed for Mr. Wiggles.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Black Mage on June 28, 2010, 08:04:16 PM
Here's the new trailer if you haven't seen it: http://www.mediafire.com/?jimym22ijvw

Looks like Pokemon to me. Not sure what some people are upset about.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on June 29, 2010, 03:30:28 AM
I recently restarted Emerald, and I noticed that Professor Birch can't identify the gender of his own child. No matter whether it's Ethan or Dawn, the professor only refers to his child as "my kid".

Herp.

Also, its the cycle of new Pokemon BM. The new designs are always a huge turn-off to fans, but they eventually grow on them.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on June 29, 2010, 02:11:26 PM
Herp.

Brendan or May, whatever. I don't watch the anime. So sue me.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Turtlekid1 on June 29, 2010, 03:05:58 PM
Actually, we should commend you for not watching it.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on June 29, 2010, 03:29:02 PM
Except that is their default names in the game as well but whatever.

I'm hoping that rumor of Gyms being gone is true as well. It's about time the main quest didn't consist of fighting the same 8 trainer archetypes to gain the use of an HM and a level cap.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on June 29, 2010, 03:47:17 PM
Here's the new trailer if you haven't seen it: http://www.mediafire.com/?jimym22ijvw

Is this the same footage? I'm too paranoid to download from those file-sharing sites... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIwpaXYHAzM)
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Black Mage on June 29, 2010, 05:51:23 PM
Some of the footage is the same. The one you linked to is missing some from the one I posted, such as the triple battles.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: The Guy on July 16, 2010, 02:56:26 PM
I'm hoping that rumor of Gyms being gone is true as well. It's about time the main quest didn't consist of fighting the same 8 trainer archetypes to gain the use of an HM and a level cap.

They already did that with Colosseum and XD.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on July 16, 2010, 04:00:21 PM
If anything, I'd like to see them abandon the overused "thwart-the-evil-organization" formula.

It would also be a refreshing change of pace to have the adventure begin in a respectably sizeable city, rather than in some backwater village which inexplicably contains a Pokemon Lab. If, as shown in the TV series' pilot episode, most trainers receive their first Pokemon from their region's respective Professor, shouldn't the Labs be located in major metropolitan areas?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Turtlekid1 on July 16, 2010, 04:20:30 PM
I'd like to see them abandon the overused grinding.

Oh wait (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_Mystery_Dungeon)
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on July 16, 2010, 06:11:18 PM
Nice job bringing up a spin-off with a completely different structure which also happens to be enjoyable and challenging without forcing you to level up before feeling safe enough to take on bosses.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Black Mage on July 16, 2010, 07:37:16 PM
I'd like to see them abandon the overused grinding.

Oh wait (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_Mystery_Dungeon)

If you had to grind in Pokemon, you're doing it wrong.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Turtlekid1 on July 16, 2010, 07:42:36 PM
Yes, well, I'm one of those people who doesn't know how to do anything except spam the regular physical attack in an RPG, and doesn't have the patience to learn anything else, unless glitches are involved.  Which is why I never got into Competitive Pokemon, by the way.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Black Mage on July 16, 2010, 08:07:50 PM
I don't really have a response to that.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Captain Jim on July 16, 2010, 08:35:53 PM
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg4.imageshack.us%2Fimg4%2F1220%2Fwoogurru.png&hash=1eee1200ce97be1cd139c09c867caa74)

America.


I'm naming mine Guile.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Black Mage on July 16, 2010, 08:54:54 PM
"Wargle"

Cute, Japan.

Real
cute.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Toad on July 17, 2010, 12:29:10 AM
A war eagle named Wargle?

I want to name one Legal Eagle, but I know that's too many character spaces. :(
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: CrossEyed7 on July 17, 2010, 03:03:13 AM
I'm sure it'll get along great with the Canadian Pokémon.

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Farchives.bulbagarden.net%2Fmedia%2Fupload%2F9%2F91%2F400Bibarel.png&hash=17315735c663ccb44e5a238be41f9296)
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on July 17, 2010, 10:42:38 AM
I HATE YOU, CROSSEYED. I HATE YOU WITH THE RAGING INTENSITY OF 1000 BURNING MAPLE TREES.



I plan on catching a Wargle, naming it Billy Bob, and breeding it with its cousin. Its offspring will be raised to hate Pokemon that aren't Normal-type, such as Jynx and Ludicolo.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Glorb on July 17, 2010, 07:03:27 PM
Weegee's just mad our Prez could beat up his...prime minister? Chancellor? Whatever the hell they have over there.

He's also mad that Drake would still be acting on DeAssi if it weren't for Lil Wayne.

He's also mad that we're making Scott Pilgrim into something resembling decent entertainment.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Chupperson Weird on July 17, 2010, 08:24:53 PM
We?
Edgar Wright is British. Michael Cera is Canadian. What the heck are you on about?
Also Scott Pilgrim is one of the coolest things ever so you better watch your mouth foo'
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: ShadowBrain on July 17, 2010, 08:44:35 PM
I plan on catching a Wargle, naming it Billy Bob, and breeding it with its cousin. Its offspring will be raised to hate Pokemon that aren't Normal-type, such as Jynx and Ludicolo.
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi184.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fx144%2Fbreakfastcore%2Femot-iceburn.gif&hash=bb4e7a90daee0518f8506439bbe43c8a)

We need more Pokemon based on overblown national symbols. I'm guessing this one evolves into Stephen Colbert, or something?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on July 17, 2010, 09:00:48 PM
No, actually. Billy Bob doesn't believe in evolution.

Update: Some areas will be aesthetically different in each title. It's good to see that there are finally some differences between the versions other than exclusive catches. (http://serebii.net/index2.shtml)
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Glorb on July 18, 2010, 04:51:52 PM
Also Scott Pilgrim is one of the coolest things ever so you better watch your mouth foo'

I'm pretty sure the only thing keeping all the Scott Pilgrim-reading hipsters from falling asleep from sheer boredom is the copious amounts of overpriced Starbucks they drink.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on July 18, 2010, 05:00:48 PM
I think that Glorb has yet to make a single Pokemon-related comment in this thread.

I want to name one Legal Eagle, but I know that's too many character spaces. :(

"LegalEagle" would fit.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: ShadowBrain on July 18, 2010, 07:05:14 PM
"Leagle?"

And for what it's worth, Scott Pilgrim is excellent.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Chupperson Weird on July 19, 2010, 12:06:20 AM
All of my friends love Scott Pilgrim and none of us are hipsters. Recheck your facts.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: CrossEyed7 on July 19, 2010, 12:14:08 PM
Are hipsters the ones with the ugly glasses? I forget.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: PaperLuigi on July 19, 2010, 01:22:55 PM
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Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Turtlekid1 on July 19, 2010, 02:53:16 PM
Okay, so I started a new game in Emerald the other day.  I've just beaten Norman and am ready to head to the next location (Fortree, right?).  And, just as I suspected, the game got very dull very suddenly; just after the fourth gym seems to be the point in the game that one can't keep his levels high enough just by facing the trainers that he meets along the way. 

It's the point in the game that one has to start grinding excessively to keep up.

This is why I like RPGs like Paper Mario, where the battles were challenging, but not dependent on level. 
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Chupperson Weird on July 19, 2010, 04:30:55 PM
I assume by that you mean "balanced to require less grinding". Since I'm pretty sure if you tried to take on Bowser or whatever with a lv.3 Mario you'd still be toast.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on July 19, 2010, 05:59:23 PM
TK, how many Pokemon do you regularly use in battle? Your dilemma would be understandable if you're trying to raise a "balanced team", but not if you're solely using your starter like REAL MEN do.

Either way, your first destination after beating Norman should be the waterways to the north and west of Dewford.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Chupperson Weird on July 19, 2010, 06:19:46 PM
He already said he didn't know how to play RPGs, didn't he?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Turtlekid1 on July 19, 2010, 07:02:56 PM
TK, how many Pokemon do you regularly use in battle? Your dilemma would be understandable if you're trying to raise a "balanced team", but not if you're solely using your starter like REAL MEN do.
Right, so I can get completely owned at the Flying, Psychic, and Water gyms?  This is, of course, assuming that I chose Torchic like REAL MEN do.

I assume by that you mean "balanced to require less grinding". Since I'm pretty sure if you tried to take on Bowser or whatever with a lv.3 Mario you'd still be toast.
That's what I meant.  Although with Superguarding and incredible timing, you could take on Bowser, or any boss, at any level.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on July 19, 2010, 08:04:49 PM
If you rely entirely on your starter, it'll be around level 80 when you reach the Elite Four. Once you feed it the dozen Rare Candies scattered throughout Hoenn, it'll be unstoppable.

As for now, a versatile moveset is key. A Blazkien equipped with Double Kick, Flamethrower and Secret Power can KO practically anything in two hits or less.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Turtlekid1 on July 19, 2010, 09:12:01 PM
Anyone interested in helping try out a Shoddy Team?  If so, do you know of a server to do it on?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: SolidShroom on July 20, 2010, 02:05:33 PM
This is why I like RPGs like Paper Mario, where the battles were challenging, but not dependent on level. 
It seems like Mario and Luigi more accurately fits that description, since a talented enough player can pretty much get through that game without even being hit.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on July 24, 2010, 06:31:10 PM
New legendary revealed. (http://serebii.net/index2.shtml)

Oddly enough, its Pokedex number is #000. Also, it looks as though this might be the first "cutesy" legendary not to be Psychic type.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Glorb on July 24, 2010, 06:34:27 PM
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi27.tinypic.com%2Fn6cebl.jpg&hash=967ea63d09301502aaa049ee20fff777)

I thought Scene girls were the ones who wore fake glasses and were 60% more likely to have sex with you than any other type of girl.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: penguinwizard on July 25, 2010, 11:51:12 AM
New legendary revealed. (http://serebii.net/index2.shtml)

Oddly enough, its Pokedex number is #000. Also, it looks as though this might be the first "cutesy" legendary not to be Psychic type.
Is it just me or does it not look like a legendary? Looks like a rather regular Pokemon. *looks at V on head* oh my god it's the Viewtiful Joe of Pokemon!
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on July 25, 2010, 12:32:49 PM
Victini looks more like this generation's Rattata than a download-only legendary.

In other news, some Poke[bundle of sticks]s have been speculating that the Isshu region will be based on New York.

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fserebii.net%2Fblackwhite%2Fisshubig.jpg&hash=08f4199c2f04ea4e18f6f0073b8f1630)

Their reasoning is as follows:

-Vaguely similar geography
-Wargle
-Getting Victini with the Liberty Ticket
-"Isshu is far away from the regions of Sinnoh, Johto, Kanto and even Hoenn... (http://serebii.net/blackwhite/isshu.shtml)"
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: CrossEyed7 on July 25, 2010, 12:53:19 PM
Somewhere on the internet is a much more convincing comparison shot of Isshu with somewhere in China or Hong Kong or one of those Asian places. Wargle doesn't prove anything, unless Bidoof proves that Sinnoh is Canada.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Turtlekid1 on July 25, 2010, 12:54:43 PM
Well, Sinnoh is pretty cold and mountainous...
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Ninjap00 on July 25, 2010, 02:04:19 PM
It was Shanghai, CrossEyed.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on July 25, 2010, 05:02:37 PM
Wargle doesn't prove anything, unless Bidoof proves that Sinnoh is Canada.

Wargle is obviously a deliberate reference to America, while Bidoof has no affiliation to Canada besides being a beaver. How can a red-white-and-blue eagle with a Native American headdress and a name comprised of the nation's two national symbols not be a symbol of 'Murika?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: ShadowBrain on July 25, 2010, 08:18:46 PM
Lopunny proves that Sinnoh is DeviantArt.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: PaperLuigi on July 25, 2010, 08:38:19 PM
I thought Scene girls were the ones who wore fake glasses and were 60% more likely to have sex with you than any other type of girl.

Look man I don't know I guess some of them wear glasses.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Ninjap00 on July 26, 2010, 03:02:07 PM
while Bidoof has no affiliation to Canada besides being a beaver.
Bidoof is a mouse. Bibarel is a beaver.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Turtlekid1 on July 26, 2010, 04:03:31 PM
Bidoof and Bibarel are both abominations from Hell sent by Satan himself.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Lizard Dude on July 26, 2010, 04:17:01 PM
Turtlekid1's psychological war against Black Mage continues.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Turtlekid1 on July 26, 2010, 04:19:54 PM
Does that make me a White Mage?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Lizard Dude on July 26, 2010, 04:21:04 PM
Makes you an IMP.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: CrossEyed7 on July 26, 2010, 05:14:42 PM
It was Shanghai, CrossEyed.
Indeed it was.

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Flh3.ggpht.com%2F_z3qOPdy0bWw%2FTE4TSNE4W5I%2FAAAAAAAAFf8%2F77VEa2MpcJc%2Fs800%2Fshanghai.png&hash=5f6003b011a0585ce41e9aca70a82cf2)
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fserebii.net%2Fblackwhite%2Fisshubig.jpg&hash=08f4199c2f04ea4e18f6f0073b8f1630)

If it's supposed to be in America, though, it's gotta be California, not New York. It's a city with a desert and mountains right next to it and can be reached from Japan by boat.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Ninjap00 on July 28, 2010, 09:38:23 AM
Wait, so Victini is the third mascot (i.e. Giratina, Rayquaza). I thought it was a cutesy ledgendary.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: ShadowBrain on July 28, 2010, 03:27:07 PM
I'll wait for Pokemon Gray, thank you very much.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Turtlekid1 on July 28, 2010, 03:47:43 PM
I love how everyone assumes that the third title will be called Pokemon Gray.  Myself included.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: ShadowBrain on July 28, 2010, 03:50:45 PM
The point is, it's beyond obvious that they're going to tack on another game at some point.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Ninjap00 on July 29, 2010, 12:35:17 AM
I love how everyone assumes that the third title will be called Pokemon Gray.  Myself included.
I think it will be Pokemon Mexican.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Lizard Dude on July 29, 2010, 01:50:08 AM
Pokémon Rainbow
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: ShadowBrain on July 29, 2010, 09:18:57 AM
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi14.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fa335%2FTrevornater%2FPokemonPrism.png%3Ft%3D1280416008&hash=1cbb1dbcea564cc3e42310551ab6edd9)
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on July 29, 2010, 10:41:27 AM
Moar like

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fblogguno.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2009%2F03%2Fpokemon-gay.jpg&hash=262a834368715f43c2838a39b3e1e793)
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: penguinwizard on July 30, 2010, 12:44:49 AM
Or like:

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I think it will be Pokemon Albino.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: nensondubois on July 30, 2010, 04:30:23 PM
Not Pokemon Acrylic?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: ShadowBrain on July 30, 2010, 08:47:45 PM
Pokemon Sepia?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: SolidShroom on July 31, 2010, 01:01:47 AM
Uhh, there have already been 3 Pokémon Sepias
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Ninjap00 on August 01, 2010, 07:33:34 AM
Pokémon Michael Jackson?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Glorb on August 01, 2010, 08:46:51 AM
Pokemon Mos Def?

It's blacker than midnight on Broadway and Mertyl.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on August 01, 2010, 03:08:38 PM
Serebii's current Pokemon of the Week (http://serebii.net/potw-dp/301.shtml) is pretty brutal. Sure, Delcatty sucks, but "a normal cat would be more effective" is harsh, mang.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: WarpRattler on August 01, 2010, 03:24:49 PM
Quote
every Rock, Steel, Dark, Ghost, Water, Normal, Grass, Fire, Psychic, Electric, Flying, Bug, Poison, Ice, Ground, Dragon, and Fighting type in NU, UU, OU and Ubers counters Delcatty
Quote
If you see one in a competitive match, just laugh and forfeit. Your opponent deserves to win, they have to have major balls to use Delcatty.
Surely Delcatty can't be the worst Pokémon...can it?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Turtlekid1 on August 01, 2010, 03:54:48 PM
There are 28 worse ones (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Unown_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29). 
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Jman on August 02, 2010, 09:01:40 PM
I've got a Shiftry that will annoy the crap out of anyone who goes up against it.  A good friend of mine created the ultimate annoyance moveset.  Fake out, sucker punch, seed bomb, and explosion.  Believe it or not, I've actually won quite a few competitive battles with it.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on August 03, 2010, 02:00:48 PM
Dangit, Victini is Psychic after all. However, the games will feature a stereotypical mammy maid, so all of my complaints have been rendered null.

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fserebii.net%2Fblackwhite%2Faroe.png&hash=dd94eb2dbdbac75b5bdfec8d628fdfb2)

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F_c3xIPGND1xw%2FSthzd1D5HjI%2FAAAAAAAAAbg%2FbUfIS15Hnjk%2Fs320%2Fmammy2.jpg&hash=795b88d3baadd08e5bd08ecd97034e34)
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Turtlekid1 on August 03, 2010, 04:26:40 PM
I played through FireRed taking Weegee's advice and only used my starter (apart from taking out my rival's Venusaur with Moltres).  I must admit, it made the whole affair much more fun and worthwhile, since I didn't have to grind at all beyond fighting every trainer that challenged me.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on August 03, 2010, 04:38:17 PM
A couple Ice Beams could have finished off Venusaur just the same, but whatever. That's how I've been doing it since day one.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Turtlekid1 on August 03, 2010, 04:40:18 PM
I didn't have an Ice Beam TM.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on August 03, 2010, 09:57:47 PM
Just thought I'd leave this here... (http://www.andriasang.com//e/blog/2010/08/04/black_white_new_pokemon/)
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Kuromatsu on August 04, 2010, 06:12:16 AM
Remember that comic someone made where a zubat and geodude were exclaiming something along the lines of "I can't wait till fifth gen!"?

: )
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Ninjap00 on August 04, 2010, 08:30:49 AM
Yes, well now we have that fluffy heart-nosed bat.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: ShadowBrain on August 04, 2010, 01:20:09 PM
Empty space?

Just thought I'd leave this here... (http://www.andriasang.com//e/blog/2010/08/04/black_white_new_pokemon/)
Cool.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: CrossEyed7 on August 04, 2010, 02:50:30 PM
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.andriasang.com%2Fblog%2F2010%2F08%2F04%2Fblack_white_new_pokemon%2Fimages%2F2132420311_view.jpg&hash=d323e1ba91dc634716ca7592490a24a3)
It's gonna take me a long time to see that as its nose and not an eye with a heart-shaped pupil.

Edit: And I don't know the picture is only showing up sometimes.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Black Mage on August 04, 2010, 06:38:59 PM
Yes, well now we have this thing: [bat-thing image]

Still better than Zubat.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Ninjap00 on August 04, 2010, 09:26:02 PM
 What side of the bus would you be on? (http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2010/07/12/pokemon_bus/)
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on August 05, 2010, 03:05:05 PM
The Rosa Parks Foundation is gonna go nuts on that one.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Ninjap00 on August 05, 2010, 05:35:18 PM
Darnit! Why do the pics keep disappearing?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on August 06, 2010, 09:58:01 PM
New Polkamen, including the ever-original electric rodent. (http://serebii.net/index2.shtml)

Also, http://www.bertaut.com/pokemon.html
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: nensondubois on August 06, 2010, 10:11:18 PM
That looks epic. Not!
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: pokemaster on August 09, 2010, 07:53:31 AM
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi15.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fa399%2FBravepower%2Foriginal-1&hash=c4ebefb4c8bcd58bcf1ba5ce50ffe729)
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Ninjap00 on August 09, 2010, 08:42:17 AM
Serebii says:
Quote from: Serebii
TMs will not disappear after use.

what the flock
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: ShadowBrain on August 13, 2010, 11:51:10 AM
Older post was better.

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgonintendo.com%2Fwp-content%2Fphotos%2F500x__1_01.jpg&hash=f3e37e286a2b21c1db37011024ef4ec8)
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Turtlekid1 on August 13, 2010, 02:52:54 PM
The image forgot to mention that neither Porygon nor its evolutions have appeared in the anime since the banned episode.  I hate them for that.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on August 13, 2010, 02:57:40 PM
Lawl, Pokemon promotes Zionism?

Quote from: Serebii
TMs will not disappear after use.

what the flock

Having KO'd legendaries respawn is hand-holding enough. This is just pathetic.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Turtlekid1 on August 13, 2010, 02:59:37 PM
No, it's called "anti-frustration."  It removes pointless and annoying mechanics.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Ninjap00 on August 13, 2010, 03:12:27 PM
But it's what distinguished TMs from HMs!
They'd better make up for this by making TMs scarce, hard to get, or something.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Kuromatsu on August 13, 2010, 03:30:02 PM
But it's what distinguished TMs from HMs!
HMs are made for advancing across insurmountable terrain. They're also impossible to forget without the aid of a Move Deleter so that you don't get yourself stuck in an area. (i.e. surf to an island and use a TM to replace Surf and/or Fly)

I for one appreciate that TMs are now unlimited since it justifies why so many Trainer's Pokémon know Earthquake, despite it being ridiculously scarce in just about every generation.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Ninjap00 on August 13, 2010, 04:30:17 PM
Well, I don't like this change unless they make up for it.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on August 13, 2010, 04:52:25 PM
Fun fact: It's possible to become permanently stuck in the first-gen games, forcing you to start a new file.

1. Play until you complete Celadon City, fighting every trainer you meet along the way.
2. Toss all of your non-key items.
3. Spend any money you have on Game Coins or discardable items, repeat until you have less than $100.
4. Congratulations; you are now unable to progress past the thirsty guards who surround Saffron City. Good jorb!
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: WarpRattler on August 13, 2010, 06:35:29 PM
KO'd legendaries respawn
This...you were doing so well, Game Freak. Why'd you have to go and break it?

(I do think unlimited-use TMs are a good idea, though. More than anything, it eliminates the wholly unnecessary "there is only one per game" thing you had with TMs, items you'd expect to be mass-produced and relatively easy to obtain anyway, in previous generations. I don't like the idea of easy-mode legendaries, but easy-mode TMs work.)
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Kimimaru on August 13, 2010, 10:32:03 PM
I dislike both the KO'd legendary respawn and the unlimited use of TMs. One major part of preparing a team depended on the moveset you would use for each Pokemon. Many rare moves learnable by TMs were considered valuable, and as such, played a pivotal role in creating a team. Since those rare moves can now be used indefinitely, trainers can just assign any Pokemon the move without having to care about losing it. Now, certain moves will be abused much more and most of the moves in the game will be at your disposal. This, in my opinion, greatly degrades the competitive nature that Pokemon is known for.

As for KO'd legendaries respawning, I believe that having such a feature removes the excitement and suspense of battling a legendary Pokemon in the first place. Since I know I will be able to have another attempt at catching the Pokemon regardless of my reckless actions, I won't be nearly as careful when trying to catch one.

I'm against both ideas, and I feel that Nintendo and/or GameFreak is making Pokemon too "casual-friendly."
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: ShadowBrain on August 13, 2010, 10:43:06 PM
Well, I didn't think it was possible, but they managed to easify the mainseries Pokemon games. Then again, I said the same thing about Zelda...
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Kojinka on August 14, 2010, 12:35:34 AM
Respawning KO'd legendaries is very unnecessary.  Any experienced player knows that he/she just needs to save their progress RIGHT before challenging the legendary.  If you mess up, simply flip that power button and try again.  Newer gamers who don't know that will just learn the hard way like many of us did.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: WarpRattler on August 14, 2010, 01:28:56 AM
Thing is, Kimimaru, as pointed out earlier in this thread, the multiplayer "scene" for Pokémon is already overrun by players using Pokésav to save the trouble of actually training their monsters (as well as players who just use simulators rather than actually having to train Pokémon). So for the most part, TMs being unlimited doesn't affect those people at all. And as for the limited quantitative nature of certain TMs (which is what I was referring to), it was already possible to, for example, play through a second copy of the game long enough to get all your one-of-a-kind TMs, then attach them to Pokémon and trade them over to your real game. This just saves thirty hours or so per unique TM.

KO'd legendaries respawning just further cheapens the idea of them being "legendary." I still think the game needs to just autosave on legendary battles.

I disagree with the argument about Pokémon, a game that many of us started playing when we were seven or eight years old - practically wee babes! - being made casual-friendly. It was always that way.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Turtlekid1 on August 14, 2010, 07:39:22 AM
KO'd legendaries respawning just further cheapens the idea of them being "legendary." I still think the game needs to just autosave on legendary battles.
If this ever happens, then a new capture system needs to be adopted - one that's not based on luck.  Because quite frankly, having only one chance at a luck-based encounter is about as artificial as difficulty can get.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: ShadowBrain on August 14, 2010, 07:39:53 AM
Well, shoot, I know that the first few generations of the game had notices on the back reminding people that basic reading skills were necessary to enjoy it, but the point is that they've gone and dumbed down some pretty iconic traits of the series.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Kimimaru on August 14, 2010, 10:10:03 AM
Thing is, Kimimaru, as pointed out earlier in this thread, the multiplayer "scene" for Pokémon is already overrun by players using Pokésav to save the trouble of actually training their monsters (as well as players who just use simulators rather than actually having to train Pokémon). So for the most part, TMs being unlimited doesn't affect those people at all.

That's almost like saying that Nintendo should change the Mario Kart series to always make you get Starmen because people hack on it. Game companies shouldn't change the gameplay for everyone else because others decide to play dishonestly.

And as for the limited quantitative nature of certain TMs (which is what I was referring to), it was already possible to, for example, play through a second copy of the game long enough to get all your one-of-a-kind TMs, then attach them to Pokémon and trade them over to your real game. This just saves thirty hours or so per unique TM.

I'm aware that this was possible. It just goes to show that, before unlimited TMs, you had to be extremely dedicated if you wanted to make the best team you can.

I disagree with the argument about Pokémon, a game that many of us started playing when we were seven or eight years old - practically wee babes! - being made casual-friendly. It was always that way.

I agree with this, but it doesn't mean that they should make it even more casual-friendly. In a lot of Nintendo games, there are plenty of things that separate the casual players from the hardcore players (for example, Wavedashing in Super Smash Bros. Melee). In Pokemon's case, it's EVs, IVs, and various move combinations. If everyone has unlimited access to the best moves, then great move combinations in previous games won't be glorified as much because anyone can duplicate that moveset without having to worry about losing the TMs.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on August 14, 2010, 11:08:39 AM
Reusable TMs may be good for competitive play, but they'll keep the player from being judicious with them.

As bad as respawning legendaries are, auto-saving after you kill them is an even worse idea. In Emerald, catching Regirock took about seven attempts. Each time I would paralyze him, bring his health to critical levels and chuck about 40 Ultra Balls at him before he Struggled himself to death. Should I have been permanently barred from obtaining Regirock for having [dukar]ty luck?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: WarpRattler on August 14, 2010, 11:18:04 AM
Game companies shouldn't change the gameplay for everyone else because others decide to play dishonestly.
I agree, but this isn't like Mario Kart, where you basically only have to worry about that sort of thing when playing with random players (a bad idea in many online multiplayer games for one reason or another; in Nintendo's online stuff, the reason is rampant cheating). In Pokémon, where the vast majority of serious players play this way, putting everyone else (the players who don't, won't, or can't) on an even playing field is a good thing.

I'm aware that this was possible. It just goes to show that, before unlimited TMs, you had to be extremely dedicated if you wanted to make the best team you can.
The method I described is incredibly inconvenient at best and an absolute slog at worst - neither of which are things you should want in a game. It's the wrong sort of dedication.

Wavedashing in Super Smash Bros. Melee
Wavedashing is a bad example because it's abuse of a glitch. There's a cloning glitch in D/P - does abuse of that make you "hardcore"?

In Pokemon's case, it's EVs, IVs, and various move combinations.
Agreed, but...
If everyone has unlimited access to the best moves, then great move combinations in previous games won't be glorified as much because anyone can duplicate that moveset without having to worry about losing the TMs.
Again, many "hardcore" players just hack Pokémon, or use simulators like Shoddy Battle. Those players already aren't affected by the limited nature of TMs, so all this does is put everyone on the same level.



Should I have been permanently barred from obtaining Regirock for having [dukar]ty luck?
No, but only because of the rules you were playing under in your example. I'd argue that if auto-saving after legendary battles was implemented (or, really, even if it wasn't), legendaries in the field would also need to be redesigned such that they couldn't run out of attacks and Struggle themselves to fainting - you'd expect a legendary Pokémon to have legendary amounts of power, not ten or fifteen PP per move.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Kimimaru on August 14, 2010, 11:31:26 AM
I agree, but this isn't like Mario Kart, where you basically only have to worry about that sort of thing when playing with random players (a bad idea in many online multiplayer games for one reason or another; in Nintendo's online stuff, the reason is rampant cheating). In Pokémon, where the vast majority of serious players play this way, putting everyone else (the players who don't, won't, or can't) on an even playing field is a good thing.

Most of Nintendo's online modes deal with playing against random players. Even if they didn't, why should they change the gameplay because others feel the need to hack the game?

Also, unlimited TMs will almost completely obsolete Egg Moves, which allowed newly bred Pokemon to obtain moves they wouldn't normally have. In normal gameplay, I would be able to teach most of my Pokemon the most useful moves (Earthquake, Flamethrower, Thunderbolt) and destroy the Elite Four with ease because I can reuse my TMs. I just don't believe that giving TMs unlimited use is the right direction for the series.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: WarpRattler on August 14, 2010, 11:44:40 AM
Most of Nintendo's online modes deal with playing against random players.
Are you saying you don't play with friends, which is the optimal form of online play in most games, Nintendo or otherwise?

Even if they didn't, why should they change the gameplay because others feel the need to hack the game?
Again, you're making it sound like fewer players than it actually is by saying "others."

unlimited TMs will almost completely obsolete Egg Moves
Good! Breeding for specific egg moves is incredibly tedious and, again, an activity many "hardcore" players bypass through hacking.

You keep bringing up things as examples why changing TMs is a bad thing, but instead they just show that some of the worst parts of the game are being fixed.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Turtlekid1 on August 14, 2010, 11:50:54 AM
All they need now are reliable methods of getting 'mons with good IVs (or better yet, just do away with IVs completely) and shinies.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Ninjap00 on August 14, 2010, 12:23:39 PM
What is even the point of shinies.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Kimimaru on August 14, 2010, 12:32:00 PM
All they need now are reliable methods of getting 'mons with good IVs (or better yet, just do away with IVs completely) and shinies.

If that happens, I doubt I'll play Pokemon again. IVs are what makes each and every Pokemon unique. If those were removed, then what would differentiate one Pokemon from another of the same species and gender? Also, why should they change how shiny Pokemon are obtained? They are just for looks, and a random encounter with one is good enough. It just makes them that more valuable.

Good! Breeding for specific egg moves is incredibly tedious and, again, an activity many "hardcore" players bypass through hacking.

You keep bringing up things as examples why changing TMs is a bad thing, but instead they just show that some of the worst parts of the game are being fixed.

I don't see how decreasing the value of Pokemon is fixing the game. When trading, I often offer a Totodile with the Egg Moves "Ice Punch" and "Dragon Dance." A Totodile with these two moves is generally considered valuable, and as such, I am able to trade it for legendaries and other Pokemon I want. By making Egg Moves almost pointless, you're also decreasing the number of worthy qualities a Pokemon can have. Who would want to trade for a Pokemon that has moves you can easily get yourself? If someone takes the extra effort to get the Egg Moves he/she wants, others will admire that by wanting to trade for that Pokemon.

Are you saying you don't play with friends, which is the optimal form of online play in most games, Nintendo or otherwise?

I do play with my friends. However, in Pokemon Pearl, the most recent version I have, I must find random players on various chats and add them to my Friend Pad before I can battle them. This is essentially the same thing as battling random players.

Again, you're making it sound like fewer players than it actually is by saying "others."

I realize that there are many hackers out there in Pokemon, but again, why should a game company have to change the game because of hackers? In my online game, Super Mario Bros. Online, there were several players that used a speed hack that allowed their characters to run faster than normal without using any run energy, but I simply banned the players for one week instead of making everyone able to run forever.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: WarpRattler on August 14, 2010, 01:37:45 PM
IVs are what makes each and every Pokemon unique. If those were removed, then what would differentiate one Pokemon from another of the same species and gender?
EV distribution (more stupid invisible numbers), natures, movesets, trainer IDs, nicknames...

decreasing the value of Pokemon
legendaries
KO'd legendaries respawn
Why are you complaining about egg moves, again?

Also, why should they change how shiny Pokemon are obtained? They are just for looks, and a random encounter with one is good enough. It just makes them that more valuable.
Considering that some players soft-reset at legendaries just to force a shiny...

If someone takes the extra effort to get the Egg Moves he/she wants, others will admire that by wanting to trade for that Pokemon.
Or they'll trade for the exact same Pokémon that someone made in Pokésav, and the person who spent five minutes in a save editor will be better off than the person who may have spent days actually playing the game. I don't support the hacker in this case at all, but I also don't support the amount of time breeding for egg moves requires, particularly when it can be rendered an utter waste of time so easily.

I do play with my friends. However, in Pokemon Pearl, the most recent version I have, I must find random players on various chats and add them to my Friend Pad before I can battle them. This is essentially the same thing as battling random players.
And if you're doing this, you might as well use a simulator, where you'll never be up against Wondertomb.

I realize that there are many hackers out there in Pokemon, but again, why should a game company have to change the game because of hackers? In my online game, Super Mario Bros. Online, there were several players that used a speed hack that allowed their characters to run faster than normal without using any run energy, but I simply banned the players for one week instead of making everyone able to run forever.
But see, you still changed the game. Except, in your case, instead of making things easier for the non-cheating players, you removed the cheating players. That's doable in an MMO. It's not in Pokémon, short of actively disabling players who cheat by deleting their save or whatnot - and even if that were done, players would still use simulators and still not have to go through the effort you think is necessary to the game.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Kimimaru on August 14, 2010, 02:48:29 PM
Or they'll trade for the exact same Pokémon that someone made in Pokésav, and the person who spent five minutes in a save editor will be better off than the person who may have spent days actually playing the game. I don't support the hacker in this case at all, but I also don't support the amount of time breeding for egg moves requires, particularly when it can be rendered an utter waste of time so easily.

I understand the point you're making, but the idea is that hacking or using tools of any sort should not influence the development of a game series. A good solution would be to reduce the time it takes for an egg to hatch.

EV distribution (more stupid invisible numbers), natures, movesets, trainer IDs, nicknames...

While that may be true, two Pokemon that have the same nature, moveset, name, and were caught by the same trainer would have nothing different about them other than EV distribution; even then, you can remove their EV distribution and make it the same. It's very difficult to get two Pokemon with the same IVs, essentially making about every Pokemon unique.

And if you're doing this, you might as well use a simulator, where you'll never be up against Wondertomb.

Why should I have to do that just to play a game I like online?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: ShadowBrain on August 14, 2010, 03:22:17 PM
A lot of these arguments remind me of the "steriods in baseball" debate.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: SolidShroom on August 14, 2010, 03:36:08 PM
I kinda skipped a lot of this discussion, so I don't know if this comment is relevant, and I might be Glorbin' right now, but criticizing Pokémon for being butt easy is like Criticizing Mario for being too red.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Ninjap00 on August 14, 2010, 04:01:34 PM
Why do people make big arguments over this type 'o stuff anyway? Can't we all just get along and have friendly Pokémon battles together?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on August 14, 2010, 04:44:31 PM
No, we have to argue so Game Freak will read these posts and change the games' fundamental mechanics accordingly.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: WarpRattler on August 14, 2010, 05:38:32 PM
A good solution would be to reduce the time it takes for an egg to hatch.
Or better yet, what's actually happening, where TMs aren't limited items.

As seen from the fact that most players already reduce the amount of time it takes to hatch eggs by keeping a Pokémon with a particular ability in their party, reducing the amount of time it takes an egg to hatch doesn't eliminate the possibility of long RNG screw. You could still be stuck hatching eggs for days to try to hatch a Pokémon with multiple egg moves and the right nature. When you can instead just use TMs to give the hatched Pokémon those moves, you're only hatching for nature at that point, which is a highly preferable situation.

While that may be true, two Pokemon that have the same nature, moveset, name, and were caught by the same trainer would have nothing different about them other than EV distribution; even then, you can remove their EV distribution and make it the same. It's very difficult to get two Pokemon with the same IVs, essentially making about every Pokemon unique.
This, to me, speaks more of how Pokémon is incredibly flawed as a competitive game than anything about why IVs should be kept in the game. It's all just far too much metagaming.

Why should I have to do that just to play a game I like online?
That's an odd way to phrase it, considering using a simulator is faster in every way than playing on the actual game. And I'm not saying you should have to do this. I'm just saying that doing that eliminates the chance of facing impossible Pokémon like the aforementioned Wondertomb, things that are entirely possible to go up against when you play with randoms the way you described.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Kimimaru on August 14, 2010, 06:00:27 PM
That's an odd way to phrase it, considering using a simulator is faster in every way than playing on the actual game. And I'm not saying you should have to do this. I'm just saying that doing that eliminates the chance of facing impossible Pokémon like the aforementioned Wondertomb, things that are entirely possible to go up against when you play with randoms the way you described.

I understand that a simulator will prevent me from fighting impossibly hard Pokemon, but when I play competitively, I wish to battle a player, not a computer.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Turtlekid1 on August 14, 2010, 06:08:32 PM
You still battle against other players.  The difference is that you don't have to mess around with the tedious grinding.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Ninjap00 on August 14, 2010, 06:37:13 PM
I bet B/W is really gonna grind my Gear.
/silly puns
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: WarpRattler on August 14, 2010, 06:50:31 PM
What Turtlekid said. When I say "simulator," I refer to programs like Shoddy Battle, in which you plug in information to generate a team automatically and play against other people online.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Kimimaru on August 14, 2010, 10:28:19 PM
Oh, haha. It sounds pretty cool; I might just check it out sometime.

Also:

Why do people make big arguments over this type 'o stuff anyway? Can't we all just get along and have friendly Pokémon battles together?

WarpRattler or I were arguing in a good sense. We discussed the subject maturely and voiced our opinions. I don't think of him any differently now than I did 3 days ago.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Ninjap00 on August 15, 2010, 05:06:43 AM
I never wrote that your argument was immature or anything like that, I just meant that I personally feel that it's pretty pointless to argue about little things in Pokémon.
Sometimes they're entertaining to read, though, so carry on.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on September 04, 2010, 04:53:39 PM
Starter evolutions revealed (http://serebii.net/index2.shtml)

I'm diggin' Smugleaf's badass Dragonair/Milotic-style final form. Wotterderp's evolutions are a serious improvement. It looks as though the Fire starter might become Fire/Fighting type for the third generation in a row.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Turtlekid1 on September 06, 2010, 01:57:40 PM
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg405.imageshack.us%2Fimg405%2F9373%2Fbigpigsprite.png&hash=534d2bee8169de9c3e6f5d4a5a3a29d9)
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg214.imageshack.us%2Fimg214%2F7854%2Fdpmfa464.png&hash=b04488d6aa66447431bfcadeed67aed0)
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on September 06, 2010, 03:24:14 PM
Interesting...

By the way, the patterns on its belly remind me of some creature from LoZ:WW.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on September 10, 2010, 02:51:47 PM
Warp should love this: Thirteen confirmed legendaries (http://serebii.net/index2.shtml). Intruiging type combinations, though.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: WarpRattler on September 10, 2010, 03:04:20 PM
Far more interesting thing of note: Isshu is officially New York. (http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2010/09/10/iwata_asks_pokemon_black_and_white/)
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on September 10, 2010, 03:16:32 PM
I knew it! For one thing, China's piracy industry keeps the nation from being a viable marketing target for Nintendo, so there's little reason to appeal to them rather than to Japan or America.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Captain Jim on September 11, 2010, 12:56:41 AM
http://pokebeach.com/2010/09/september-corocoro-apparently-leaking
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on September 11, 2010, 02:50:57 PM
It's a shame that Yorterrie doesn't really resemble a Yorkie.

I plan on catching that Mushroom-themed Voltorb ripoff as soon as possible, naming it Kipokéo, and loving it forever and ever.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Captain Jim on September 11, 2010, 04:07:46 PM
Buffalon is one of my favorite things. It's a buffalo with an afro, and its signature move is Afro Break!
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Ninjap00 on September 16, 2010, 02:40:31 PM
All the 5Gen Pokemon: http://www.serebii.net/blackwhite/pokemon.shtml
Also, I'm pretty sure the third mascot will be Kyuremu.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on September 16, 2010, 04:26:06 PM
Some of them, particularly those which appear to be wearing clothes, don't even look like Pokemon anymore.

I can't help but feel that they're overcompensating for the lack of Bug-types in previous generations.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Captain Jim on September 16, 2010, 06:35:50 PM
I can't take the "THEY'RE WEARING CLOTHES THEY DON'T LOOK LIKE POKEMON" thing seriously when Jynx, Hitmonchan, Machoke, and Machamp existed in the first generation. Way to conveniently forget things.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Toad on September 16, 2010, 07:03:21 PM
I think that somewhere along the way, they stopped being pocket monsters. Upon seeing the boxes for Diamond and Pearl, a friend of mine said what I'd been thinking: "They've moved beyond pocket monsters and are unofficial Final Fantasy summons."
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Ninjap00 on September 16, 2010, 07:15:29 PM
What are you guys even talking about they are all perfect.
Especially Otamaru.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on September 16, 2010, 07:51:54 PM
Jynx, Hitmonchan, Machoke, and Machamp

Of those, only Jynx is comparable to the two new Fighting-types that wear full karate gi.

"They've moved beyond pocket monsters and are unofficial Final Fantasy summons."

CANNOT UNSEE

EDIT: Any guesses as to what #560 (and its pre-evolution) is based on?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Captain Jim on September 17, 2010, 12:10:52 AM
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg148.imageshack.us%2Fimg148%2F4927%2Ffavorites.png&hash=773402a4a88eff5d89b4dcd652bde49f)

These be my favorites, in no particular order.

I am a man of bizarre tastes.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Kimimaru on September 17, 2010, 12:52:35 AM
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg148.imageshack.us%2Fimg148%2F4927%2Ffavorites.png&hash=773402a4a88eff5d89b4dcd652bde49f)

These be my favorites, in no particular order.

I am a man of bizarre tastes.

I love the second one down from the right column. He looks like he's really ready to fight.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: CongressionalWombat on September 17, 2010, 03:26:47 AM
Baffuron has got to be the best Pokemon in the world. I can't wait to see how Shanderaa turns out, though. Base 145 special attack Ghost/Fire STAB is going to be amazing, I just hope it's not shelved to ubers. Overall I don't see too many special sweepers, compared to the amount of slow hard hitting physical Pokemon there are (Roopushin, anyone?).

On a side note, Maggyo is the most adorable thing in the world.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on September 17, 2010, 05:48:47 PM
My favourite (i.e., the best) fifth-gen Polkamen:
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Turtlekid1 on September 17, 2010, 08:15:32 PM
I will say that the music so far has been as good of a selling point as any for me.  The  is very nice this time around. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmvgddXq_CgGym theme[/url)
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: PaperLuigi on September 18, 2010, 03:22:58 PM
I'm going to receive flack for this but I don't like any of them. They look horrible.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on September 18, 2010, 03:42:24 PM
Meh. Even I was struggling to find worthy selections beyond my seventh or eighth poick.

As for the music, I'm relieved to hear that it's not terribly fancy or overdone.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Ninjap00 on September 18, 2010, 10:03:30 PM
I'm going to receive flack for this but I don't like any of them. They look horrible.
All but those elemental genies are perfect you have bad taste.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Turtlekid1 on September 19, 2010, 05:35:17 PM
This soundtrack just keeps getting better and better (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSBTRIx5aO0).

Oh, and a certain epic piano introduction (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIYrxN2hICQ) makes its return.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Captain Jim on September 19, 2010, 07:07:05 PM
If you can't find anything you like about this generation, then congratulations! You're officially more of a hardass than BP. Remember how he hated the whole 4th gen (and stated that he'd only play remakes of the first three gens)? He likes a nice handful of Pokemon this generation.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Turtlekid1 on September 19, 2010, 09:32:58 PM
That's what I don't get.  The 'mons of this generation are far more robot-like and over-embellished in their designs than anything from Gen IV.  Yet you and BP seem to not hate them.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: PaperLuigi on September 19, 2010, 09:38:07 PM
All but those elemental genies are perfect you have bad taste.

Thanks!

The 'mons of this generation are far more robot-like and over-embellished in their designs than anything from Gen IV. 

This.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Captain Jim on September 19, 2010, 10:47:07 PM
You can't really pass that off for the whole gen . While you have detailed roboty 'mons (the henshinguys, the aliens, gear, the actual robot), it also has very simple, gen 1-esque ones (Buffalo, pigeon, dogs, chinchilla).

I mean really.

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg825.imageshack.us%2Fimg825%2F693%2F519.png&hash=c477a686052eb23b743d8b8e48e83214)

This is totally robot-like and over-embellished.

And I'm directing this at myself, too. Using one decscription for an entire gen, such as " robot-like and over-embellished" is really, really stupid. I mean really. Look at that god[darn] pigeon. It looks like an actual pigeon, kind of like something out of gen one. When you use such a blanket statement, you are saying that that thing is over-embellished and robotic. Which it isn't. This may be:

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg31.imageshack.us%2Fimg31%2F9199%2F623c.png&hash=780eb0523beb3b406326bc0de864fe55)

But this sure isn't:

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg704.imageshack.us%2Fimg704%2F9320%2F590.png&hash=369168c7e2211bafe33ba192baee61bf)

So really. If you don't like them all for different reasons, fine! Say that you don't like the gen. But saying they are all robot-like and overdesigned and thus bad is just a load of bull.

PS: I don't just not hate them, I  really like this gen. And thinking back, I liked a good chunk of Gen IV pokemon.

PPS: I hate when people reply with just "this", it's just plain lazy.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Turtlekid1 on September 20, 2010, 06:30:58 AM
I didn't mean to come across as thinking that all the new Pokemon are that way.  But I was going from the screenshots of your and Weegee's favorite ones.

Also, for what it's worth, the gear (can't remember its name and Serebii has taken down its images due to Nintendo's b****ing) is my favorite one after the Fire starter.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: WarpRattler on September 20, 2010, 08:30:11 AM
Supposedly the anti-piracy in the new versions prevents pirates' Pokémon from gaining experience, which sounds more effective for actively preventing pirates from playing the games than the previous games' anti-piracy, which involved the game freezing after a certain number of "events," and could be bypassed simply by saving and resetting before you hit that number. Hopefully this anti-piracy will be just as difficult to crack as the anti-piracy in the previous games was.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Captain Jim on September 20, 2010, 05:42:29 PM
Supposedly the anti-piracy in the new versions prevents pirates' Pokémon from gaining experience, which sounds more effective for actively preventing pirates from playing the games than the previous games' anti-piracy, which involved the game freezing after a certain number of "events," and could be bypassed simply by saving and resetting before you hit that number. Hopefully this anti-piracy will be just as difficult to crack as the anti-piracy in the previous games was.

Nope. You just edit the hex values and it's fixed.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: ShadowBrain on September 20, 2010, 05:46:45 PM
Hold on... did someone in here seriously just think it was going to be difficult to evade anti-piracy?

...Okay, I mean, I wouldn't be able to do it, but the most dedicated skinflints are always going to find a way.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: WarpRattler on September 20, 2010, 06:02:18 PM
Dude, it took months for pirates to break the protection on the English-language HG/SS.

If it's already been found for the new games, you can bet your ass NoA won't let that happen with the US release.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on September 20, 2010, 06:11:02 PM
Bullying Serebii into pulling its B/W images was a dick move by Nintendo. "Intellectual property" my ass.

Would I be considered a "pirate" for using Action Replay to unlock event-only content, and catching/raising the event Pokemon legitimately?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: WarpRattler on September 20, 2010, 06:23:01 PM
Unless they changed things so that copy-protection kicks in upon using a cheat device, no.

And, uh, no? It is Nintendo's intellectual property, and the information was leaked and uploaded to that site before the games came out.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Lizard Dude on September 20, 2010, 06:31:39 PM
Not only did Serebii post spoilers to the game before release, it posted literally ALL THE SPOILERS. As much as you guys love spoiling the **** out of games for yourselves before you play even one minute of them, I guess Nintendo doesn't like it.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Captain Jim on September 20, 2010, 06:38:03 PM
I think the big thing is they're cracking down as they investigate Melkor, a Nintendo Employee who was leaking the new pokemon. Can you see how this is a problem?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on September 20, 2010, 06:50:38 PM
Oh, the leaks weren't legal? I assumed they came out on the Japanese release day...
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Ninjap00 on September 22, 2010, 06:11:57 AM
LOL!
Quote
Ken Sugimori has said that Tsutarja's personality was meant to be similar to that of European (particularly French) royalty
(Smugleaf)
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Captain Jim on September 25, 2010, 11:42:04 PM
Favorites from across the ages (http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/4144/faves.png)
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Captain Jim on September 27, 2010, 06:01:15 PM
Caught a shiny in White last night.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: cosmic_c on October 16, 2010, 09:34:17 PM
I need help, I'm trying to beat a Shedinja with espeon, and I can't find an attack to hurt him. Any ideas please?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: FlamingBlueMario on October 17, 2010, 12:14:49 AM
Shadow Ball works nicely. Plus, the attack can occasionally lower your opponent's special defense.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: cosmic_c on October 17, 2010, 07:45:17 AM
Defense shouldn't be a problem since it only has 1 HP :P.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: FlamingBlueMario on October 17, 2010, 09:34:36 PM
I know. But it'll still come in handy when you're battling against other Pokemon.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: cosmic_c on October 17, 2010, 10:02:18 PM
right right, shoot... now I gotta build bp points to get shadow ball. Hmmm.... any fast ways to get bp?
NO OIL JOKES >:(
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: CrossEyed7 on October 17, 2010, 10:27:51 PM
Try saying that the Koopalings are better than Bowser Jr.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: cosmic_c on October 17, 2010, 10:30:36 PM
Opps wrong topic cross,
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on October 17, 2010, 10:33:22 PM
Try saying that the Koopalings are better than Bowser Jr.
Or, depict him as a tyrannical IRC mod.

But really, importing TM30 from a GBA game might be faster. Dark Pulse could work too.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on October 17, 2010, 10:43:42 PM
You rang
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: cosmic_c on October 17, 2010, 10:47:37 PM
:I

huh... wasn't expecting that...

Also... GRAAAHHHHHHHAHAHAHAHA! EVERYTHING'S SO EXPENSIVE, I NEVER GOT IT ON GBA!!! I DON'T WANNA BUY ANOTHER COPY AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!! I'M SO BROKE!!

*sigh* so yeah, guess I'll just build up bp then.

also dark pulse wouldn't work already tried it. shoot... I'm such a noob for wasting it on Bucker (Raticate) I didn't know they were limited.

Is there a chance Espeons learn it by level cause I got a couple of yellow shards.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on November 13, 2010, 09:32:17 PM
No, Espeon doesn't.

I've been playing through SoulSilver for a second time. Just now am I beginning to realize how incredibly easy Pokemon games are. I haven't used any Pokemon but Dunsparce since Goldenrod City, and I've just reached Jasmine, without a single hitch so far.

On a different note, B/W's moves are getting pretty complicated (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Psycho_Shock_(move)).
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on November 13, 2010, 09:40:31 PM
Just now am I beginning to realize how incredibly easy Pokemon games are.

You're a little late on that aren't ya?

(I'm not posting an image of slowpoke. I'll let someone else do that)
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on November 13, 2010, 11:39:25 PM
I've always known they were easy, but never to this extent. Dunsparce's Headbutt can KO practically any foe within two hits. I managed to beat LeafGreen with nothing but a Farfetch'd a while back, but that was actually somewhat challenging.


If anyone here has easy access to Pokemon Red or Blue, perhaps you could replicate a glitch I once encountered: I used my Master Ball on a wild Machoke [don't judge me; I was seven years old and that ***** was at least level 42] in Victory Road, only to discover upon reaching the Indigo Plateau Pokemon Centre that all my boxed Pokemon had become invisible level-1 Rhydons with no attacks (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/PC4SH). The Name Rater considered them to be traded Pokemon, so he refused to let me give them distinguishable names. Needless to say, I started a new game shortly thereafter.

None of this is made up or copypasta'd. It should be noted that my mystery Pokemon were slightly different than the regular PC4SH in that their name field was completely empty, and that they didn't seem to learn any attacks naturally. I can remember teaching Surf to the ones I used in battle. So, who's up for a little glitch-investigation?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Turtlekid1 on November 24, 2010, 10:58:09 AM
In spite of my better judgment, I actually kind of want to get a Gen V title.  Although it's mostly because of the amazing soundtrack.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on December 27, 2010, 03:15:39 PM
March 6. (http://serebii.net/index2.shtml)

No takers for my previous post, then?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Turtlekid1 on December 27, 2010, 03:59:59 PM
What I'd really like to know the release date of is the "third," combines-the-two-previous-versions installment (which the fandom has seemingly universally agreed to call "Pokemon Gray").  Because that's the one I'll get, if I participate in this generation.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: ShadowBrain on December 27, 2010, 06:01:24 PM
Likewise, though I suspect they'll stay mum on that for a while.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: CrossEyed7 on December 27, 2010, 08:03:35 PM
I want to know when EarthRuby and SeaSapphire are coming out.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on December 28, 2010, 12:04:47 AM
I don't see why you guys want to hold out when B/W already include a much beefier online system than Gen 4 did.

My only real problem is that the end game is quite lacking compared to Diamond and Pearl and the new experience system makes late level training far more tedious than it used to be.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: The Chef on December 28, 2010, 09:12:16 PM
I want to know when EarthRuby and SeaSapphire are coming out.

I'm still holding out for WaterBlue and LightningYellow. :[
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on December 28, 2010, 09:42:10 PM
I can't wait for BlazingFireRed and LushLeafGreen to come out.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Captain Jim on January 10, 2011, 10:18:33 PM
You'll have to keep waiting. Contrary to popular belief, it's not "Remake every two gens" as much as "Remake on an anniversary".

The 20th of Red and Green is in five years.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Jman on January 12, 2011, 06:24:58 PM
You'll have to keep waiting. Contrary to popular belief, it's not "Remake every two gens" as much as "Remake on an anniversary".

The 20th of Red and Green is in five years.

That is just nuts.  I remember watching the premiere episode of Pokemon. 
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Lizard Dude on January 12, 2011, 11:30:22 PM
Yo Pokémaniacs:

I became involved in a massive argument at work today against not one but two retarts who both independently claimed that they had traded their POKéMON from Blue directly up into Ruby. I was 100% sure the first guy was wrong but when the second guy, without knowing what the first guy had said, claimed the same thing, shadows of doubt and insanity began to creep into my brain.

I knew they were wrong because I distinctly remember the furor when Gen3 came out and created a "new universe" AND I remembered that the entire reason LeafGreen/FireRed existed was to bring the original 150 into the new universe AND I just looked up the info proving them wrong on the internet (Pokémon Sapphire manual, p. 50) BUT I want a knowledgable human to personally tell me I'm right. Was there any possible way to bridge the Gen2/Gen3 gap? A console game or something?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Ultima Shadow on January 12, 2011, 11:57:19 PM
Nope, the way stats are calculated in the first two generations was changed for the third generation onwards, so the games are incompatible.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: ShadowBrain on January 13, 2011, 08:39:51 AM
They either had some pirated GBA game or confused Sapphire with Blue.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on January 13, 2011, 09:23:51 PM
It's some new names (http://www.pokemonblackwhite.com/en-us/friends-and-foes/), for a new generation! (http://www.pokemonblackwhite.com/en-us/pokemon/new-pokemon/).

Was hoping Kibago could keep his name but Axew is a fine name too. These names also match a leaked list that was posted on fansites earlier, so it is probably legit or some TPCi/IGN employee got really bored and is trolling the fans.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on January 27, 2011, 02:58:51 AM
Jim lent me XD: Gale of Darkness. No one told me it was so cool.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Toad on January 27, 2011, 09:33:34 AM
So, that means it's good?

With the recent Gamestop legendary trio event, my wife and I have gotten back into Pokemon. I don't know if we'll be playing Black/White immediatley, but that's ok. I still want to collect all (or most) of the current ones anyway.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Lizard Dude on January 27, 2011, 01:21:29 PM
So... I kinda accidentally told some friends I'd play Black/White with them if at least two of them got it and at least three people immediately said they would.

Dear sweet merciful god in heaven save me.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on January 27, 2011, 07:43:14 PM
Will you play with us too :3 ?

Also, Gym Leader Iris will retain her name, while one of the Pan___ Brothers receives a new one. Dento is now known as Cilan. I'm guessing his corn-based brothers will also be renamed to some weird topping spice thing.

Source is Cartoon Network's leaked promotional images for Pokemon Black and White.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on January 27, 2011, 09:33:53 PM
It's about time LD became one of us.

ONE OF US. ONE OF US. ONE OF US. ONE OF US.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on January 27, 2011, 10:10:25 PM
I intend to pirate White, play it once, and actually pay for Gray.

It's rumored that the next console game will be a Generation 5 one with a story mode like Colosseum's and XD's (yes). I hope it supports Generation 4 and 5 games together in DS-to-DS battle mode...
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Lizard Dude on January 27, 2011, 10:33:15 PM
I'm not going to interact with any hackers, cheaters, or glitchers, so no I won't be playing with any of you.

Here's my question about Gray: are they seriously going to release a DS game that long after the 3DS comes out? I don't know...
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on January 27, 2011, 10:35:31 PM
GBA games were still produced for a few years following the DS's release, so it's feasible.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Lizard Dude on January 27, 2011, 10:40:03 PM
Oh I know, but not top-tier Nintendo-developed games.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on January 27, 2011, 11:15:33 PM
I'm not going to interact with any hackers, cheaters, or glitchers, so no I won't be playing with any of you.

You scared of my Stealth Rock setup lead + Trick Room team of heavy hitters?

Quote
Here's my question about Gray: are they seriously going to release a DS game that long after the 3DS comes out? I don't know...

I'm under the belief this will be the first gen where we don't get that 3rd edition. That or it'll probably just be a 3DS exclusive like Crystal was a GBC one.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on January 28, 2011, 07:15:22 PM
Didn't think about that... hrrrrmmmmm.........

But if they go with the first option, what, no Battle Frontier or move tutors or gym leader rematches or, you know, anything that makes you think the game is a step up from HG/SS (besides the expanded list of Pokémon)? Unlikely, you know they leave all that stuff out so that they're sure there's something they can add to the Super Turbo version in case they can't think up any actual advances... as always. But if they go with the second option, can it be compatible with Black and White?

If so then I'd be all over that.

Edit: LD, I may not be above stealing the unfinished version of the game but you know I'm above cheatin'. But of course, I've got no Wi-Fi, so
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: WarpRattler on January 28, 2011, 10:15:43 PM
I've already made my statements regarding cheating clear and do plan to buy the game, but I don't have a DS at the moment and won't again until I get a 3DS. And don't have Wi-Fi either. So yeah, LD's not playing with any of us.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Jman on January 29, 2011, 11:56:45 AM
Aside from using the Missingno glitch back in first gen, I have trained my Pokemon legitimately using those items only available in the game (power items, Exp. shares).  Beating people with a team I put several days into training makes me feel like a proud dad.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on March 06, 2011, 01:05:15 AM
B&W are coming out in North America today, you know.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on March 06, 2011, 01:29:49 AM
ROMs were leaked. It doesn't apparently work in my R4 though for some reason, probably because it's too old/outdated and I'd need another patch to make it work. Super Scribblenauts didn't work either so I ended up buying a real copy.

'S coo'. I'll just wait till Game Freak finishes the game, I can do without playing White or Black

Edit: Not really, I updated my R4's firmware and now it works. The game is good; I'm just not going to pay for it twice--if the rumor that there won't be a Gray turns out true I'll buy White, but I rather doubt it.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Lizard Dude on March 08, 2011, 12:45:02 PM
HELP THERE'S A TAMBOURINE ATTACHED TO MY DUDE AND IT WON'T COME OFF
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Lizard Dude on March 08, 2011, 09:44:57 PM
WTD? Is this rigged or was there really some dude named "Lucas" playing right outside my house from the instant I got my C-Gear?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: CrossEyed7 on March 09, 2011, 04:59:07 AM
If I ever catch an Arceus, I'm naming it Maxis.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Jman on March 09, 2011, 04:48:24 PM
I'm still trying to grasp all of the new quirks of Pokemon Black.  So far, I'm loving it (oh crap, now McDonalds is going to sue me).
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Lizard Dude on March 10, 2011, 01:35:50 AM
I love all the playful stuff this game does with its music. I love the percussion that only plays when you walk. I love the NPCs that play instruments along with the background music, I love the phat-as-hell low health beep. I love that the Gym Leader's final Pokémon gets its own extra song. I love the song with the tinkling straight out of Vanilla Dome and I love the song with the whistles straight out of Super Mario Kart/Super Mario RPG. Thank you Shota Kageyama, for giving me something worthwhile in this game.

I hate that the names of Pokémon and moves aren't capitalized. It's incredibly disturbing.

What exactly is the point of the IR tech? Is it entirely to mess with pirates? If so that's awesome.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Turtlekid1 on March 10, 2011, 08:25:11 AM
Not capitalized?  At all?  Or just not in all caps?

If the latter, it's about time.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on March 10, 2011, 03:38:29 PM
As with items and character names in IV, Pokémon names are no longer capped by default. I was almost expecting them to go the full length and give the heroes' friends' Pokémon cheesy, lovable nicknames but nope.

And I wonder why not. NPCs with nicknamed Pokémon, though usually not battleable, have existed. Mr. Briney, anyone, including Gym Leaders, who would trade with you or appear in a contest, and others...
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on March 10, 2011, 05:10:02 PM
I miss the days of all proper nouns being in ALL MONKEYFIGHTING CAPS.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: ShadowBrain on March 10, 2011, 06:28:15 PM
The caps thing was stupid, and even though I'm not planning on getting Black or White, I'm glad it's gone. Now if only they'd stop doing about half a dozen other weird things with the text...
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Toad on March 10, 2011, 07:37:26 PM
I love the song with the tinkling straight out of Vanilla Dome and I love the song with the whistles straight out of Super Mario Kart/Super Mario RPG.

I hate that the names of Pokémon and moves aren't capitalized. It's incredibly disturbing.


Mario music in the Pokemon series? Really!? Took them long enough. :p
There were enough references and such in the past..

Move names should always be ALL CAPS. How are we going to know what moves are being used? (is the first letter capitalized at least? ie: Psychic, Mewtwo)
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Lizard Dude on March 10, 2011, 08:13:49 PM
Yes, sorry, the first letter of moves and Pokémon names is capitalized. It looks horrible and is an abomination to everything Pokémon stands for.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Turtlekid1 on March 10, 2011, 08:19:34 PM
Mind you, most of what Pokémon stands for really sucks.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Toad on March 11, 2011, 01:24:17 AM
A 10-12 year old beating up people's pets and taking their money.. wait, that actually sounds almost cool...
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on March 12, 2011, 12:41:03 AM
Anything that advocates illicit animal fighting is A-OK in my books.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Lizard Dude on March 13, 2011, 10:53:05 PM
I like the timing of the game coming out one week before Daylight Savings Time and also locking you out of some functions for 24 hours after changing your system time.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Luigalaxy on March 14, 2011, 08:31:00 PM
It's clever marketing because it allows you to see the security functions too.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Toad on March 15, 2011, 04:12:29 PM
I've been thinking of doing a Nuzlocke (sp?) run in Pearl. The trouble with me being motivated to do it would be transfering my all of my other pkmn to my other game, and also picking a pkmn to travel with.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on March 15, 2011, 07:56:01 PM
All in favour of Gilbert Gottfreid playing Professor Oak in a live-action Pokemon film?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Toad on March 15, 2011, 08:57:03 PM
I could totally see that working. I don't know whether to be amused or scared..
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: CoconutMikeNIke on March 16, 2011, 12:05:26 AM
They need to do this now. I would see it a thousand times over. Yes.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on March 18, 2011, 10:26:46 PM
The plethora of online features in B&W is getting really irritating. The Entralink, C-Gear, Dream World and everything related to them are completely unnecessary and only convolute the experience of the game. It's as though Nintendo is trying to turn the Pokemon franchise into a social media platform. This is nothing short of absurd. (http://www.serebii.net/blackwhite/globallinktutorial.shtml)

tl;dr: Thank the Lord for Action Replay.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Lizard Dude on March 18, 2011, 11:40:34 PM
I don't know about Dream World, but Entralink and C-Gear are sweet.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Kuromatsu on March 18, 2011, 11:43:39 PM
What sucks even more is that my DS is unable to connect to Wi-Fi through my router, so I won't even get to experience any of those features.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: CrossEyed7 on March 19, 2011, 12:07:11 AM
You can connect through WPA on a DSi or 3DS, if that helps. Don't know why no other DS games have taken advantage of that in the last two years.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Lizard Dude on March 19, 2011, 04:07:15 AM
Entralink and C-Gear are local, not WiFi, so you can experience them.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Turtlekid1 on March 19, 2011, 07:11:41 AM
Yes, assuming you know half a dozen people in real life who all happen to have the game.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Black Mage on March 19, 2011, 10:09:43 AM
Probably not that hard. It's Pokemon.

You might not think its cool now, but when you get to college, you'll see.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: PaperLuigi on March 19, 2011, 12:42:13 PM
Yes, assuming you know half a dozen people in real life who all happen to have the game.

Wow, most of my friends own this game dude. That's more than a dozen at least.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Turtlekid1 on March 19, 2011, 01:10:05 PM
What are "friends"?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Toad on March 19, 2011, 02:55:46 PM
People who can view your information on Facebook.

I wish I could get back into the Pokemon thing, but I'm still trying to finish up catching them all up through Pearl and SoulSilver.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on March 19, 2011, 07:57:23 PM
The only Pokemon player I know IRL plans on getting Black on R4, so I doubt its local wireless would even be compatible with actual copies of the game.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: PaperLuigi on March 19, 2011, 08:50:59 PM
People who can view your information on Facebook.

God I hope not.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on March 19, 2011, 08:53:21 PM
People who can view your information on Facebook.

Doesn't that make Mark Zuckerberg everyone's best friend?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on March 20, 2011, 01:08:02 AM
I doubt its local wireless would even be compatible with actual copies of the game.

Whatja mean, like, the kind of wireless stuff most other DS games are capable of? You can do that just fine on games running on R4s. I've done a trade with a friend on his real copy of White already. Wi-Fi works, too (not that I have it). But all the IR business is obviously a no-go.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on March 20, 2011, 01:22:50 AM
Really? That's good to know.

As an aside, Bianca is just too [darn] :3.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Kimimaru on March 20, 2011, 10:46:33 AM
I ordered White and I just got to play it a couple of days ago. They really did an excellent job on it; it has a much better pace than any other Pokemon game I've played, and you seem to encounter your friends more often throughout the story. Battles are much smoother and quicker, which is a big improvement from last generation, and I actually like the Pokemon I've seen so far. I'd definitely recommend it to any Pokemon veteran.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on March 20, 2011, 05:36:08 PM
Using Braviary (AKA Wargle AKA Pokemon's Embodiment of America) as my HM ***** is quite satisfying.

EDIT: Halfway through Victory Road, my starter is at level 60. Am I terribly over-levelled?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Black Mage on March 20, 2011, 10:06:47 PM
Yeah, my starter was only 53 when I beat the game. Though, I had made a concentrated effort to level three pokemen evenly-ish. The final battles were tough for me at this level, but should be a cake walk at your level.

EDIT: Also, Herdier/Stoutland are the best Pokemon (a.k.a Bidoof) of this generation. And the Lillipup sprite reminds me of GiftedGirl's art.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on March 20, 2011, 11:48:04 PM
What a hollow Elite Four victory that was. Each battle consisted of little more than a few applications of Swords Dance followed by Waterfall and X-Scissors; everything went down in one hit. Hopefully it'll be more challenging next time around. It was like losing my virginity to a cheap whore rather than in a meaningful relationship.

Don't you just love it when good Pokemon have their potential spoilt by bad natures? On that note, I'll trade anyone my Timid Zekrom for a Reshiram.

Also, I saw the attached thread on 4chan's /vp/ board earlier this evening. Would anyone else care to fill it out?

Gen I: Farftech'd and Kabutops
Gen II: Dragonite and Scizor
Gen III: Latias and [idunnolol]
Gen IV: Dragonite and Porygon-Z
Gen V: Sigilyph and [undetermined]
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: ShadowBrain on March 21, 2011, 10:28:03 AM
I was one of those kids who picked Charmander in Gen I, so my Butterfree and I were pretty close.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: CoconutMikeNIke on March 21, 2011, 11:50:25 AM
Aw man, first time playing through Gen 1 I got so attached to my Pidgeot and Stamie I almost cried when I found my old blue had been wiped. This was years later, mind. Bro tears.
Gen II would probably be Graveler and Espeon, but I didn't play it as much.
Gen III - Flygon and Crobat. 
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Jman on March 21, 2011, 01:30:13 PM
I make it a habit to raise a Butterfree whenever I play a Pokemon game in which Caterpie are available. 

Oh, and Gen IV: Luxray and Lucario.  Shinx was the first Pokemon I caught after a long time away from the franchise (I don't like to speak of those days anymore), and Lucario is just awesome. 
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Toad on March 21, 2011, 03:54:55 PM
Gen 1- I have a hard time deciding, but Eevee and Mewtwo were pretty good friends of mine. :)
(Squirtle and Bulbasaur were awesome too, but we can't pick starters..)

Gen 4- Shinx (any of it's evo line are awesome, also one of the first that I caught after a long time away from the franchise [outside of like the SSB games and such anyway]) and Spiritomb (I really like its design. It's extremely weird looking and hard to hit. It's awesome)

I don't know if I can have an opinion about Gen 2, since I am playing the remade version (HGSS are Gen 2 remakes, correct?)
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on March 21, 2011, 10:48:12 PM
I think the first non-starter I put any heart into (read: raised from level 15 to 60) was an Altaria... I forgot what her name was...

My memory of Pokémon I'd be devastated if I lost is pretty much limited to everything I got in HeartGold (which includes my last Ruby party) so how 'bout I just name off two non-starter favorites from each game, each of which I currently have at least one individual bro

1: Lickitung, Raichu
2: Politoed, Furret
3: Altaria, Ludicolo
4: Lickilicky, Rotom
5: Emolga... for now, Stoutland, I guess. I haven't gotten my sixth badge yet, gimme some more time
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: ShadowBrain on March 22, 2011, 07:32:57 AM
Oh yeah, fourth gen: Starraptor and Bronzong ("Metallico").
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on March 26, 2011, 05:01:37 PM
I haven't touched White since beating the Elite Four. It feels as though Game Freak put zero thought into this generation's offline post-game features, and they couldn't pay me to tard around with the Dream World or any such nonsense.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Black Mage on March 26, 2011, 06:01:28 PM
I don't know, I think this one is more your problem than Gamefreak's. There's something like three towns to visit after you beat the game. New areas with the old Pokemon, and the obligatory Legendary Pokemon.

It's no Kanto, but I'd say it's about on par with the other's post-games.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: CrossEyed7 on March 27, 2011, 06:12:44 PM
Why isn't there a Black/White friend code topic yet?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Jman on March 29, 2011, 11:06:30 AM
I freaking love Emolga and Ferroseed.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Kimimaru on March 29, 2011, 01:01:51 PM
It's no Kanto, but I'd say it's about on par with the other's post-games.

I'm not quite sure what you mean by this. Are you referring to how Pokemon Gold and Silver let you explore Kanto or are you referring to Pokemon Red and Blue. If you're referring to Pokemon Red and Blue, I'd have to disagree because the only thing you can do post-game is go to Cerulean Cave and catch Mewtwo.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Black Mage on March 29, 2011, 04:50:53 PM
I was referring to the fact that you could explore Kanto in the post-game of Gold/Silver/Crystal.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: ShadowBrain on March 29, 2011, 05:28:49 PM
...Which is really the main reason I'm still partly inclined to get HG/SS (I never played the original GS generation as much as the rest, so I don't think I ever even got to Kanto). That, and the Pokewalker is pretty boss.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: ShadowBrain on April 23, 2011, 10:58:14 AM
MAKE IT STOP (http://www.gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=156544).
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on April 23, 2011, 11:30:38 AM
It seems a little early to be Grey...
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: CrossEyed7 on April 23, 2011, 11:36:43 AM
The tenth anniversary of Ruby and Sapphire isn't til 2013, though. And Pikachu Teaches Typing was already announced.

Are we due for another Ranger or whatever game yet?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on April 23, 2011, 11:46:48 AM
Mind you, FR/LG weren't released on the tenth anniversary of R/B. If this turns out to be another Ranger or Mystery Dungeon, though, I'll flip my [dukar] without a spatula.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: WarpRattler on April 23, 2011, 11:49:14 AM
Really, Weegee? That's what I'm going to do if Typing of the Pokémon doesn't come out over here.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on April 23, 2011, 02:59:52 PM
Hope it's the Gen 5 console game and that the allegations it'll have a story are true. Or a proper Mystery Dungeon 3.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on April 26, 2011, 04:28:47 PM
My Action Replay DS isn't compatible with Datel's latest firmware update, so I'll have to spend $25 on a new AR in order to get the multiplayer perks in White.

I repeat myself: Pokemon in the age of social media sucks.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Turtlekid1 on April 26, 2011, 04:30:15 PM
Pokemon in the age of social media sucks.
Fixed, since Pokemon has always required multiplayer to fully complete or even enjoy.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Black Mage on April 26, 2011, 05:26:01 PM
What? Why is that even a bad thing?

You guys have such a warped sense of... good that it continues to blow my mind every single time.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Turtlekid1 on April 26, 2011, 05:29:14 PM
It's a bad thing because not everyone has friends.

Hence... y'know, the video games.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Black Mage on April 26, 2011, 05:33:06 PM
And we're done here.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on April 26, 2011, 05:35:28 PM
You guys have such a warped sense of... good that it continues to blow my mind every single time.

Why is it "good" to ostracize certain players from a game's features?

In generations I through III, the extent to which multiplayer was required was reasonable. It's been out-of-hand ever since Pokemon went online.

I want a Pokemon game that can be 100%'d without any inter-game functions whatsoever. Locating fellow Pokemon fans IRL is like finding straight people at Starbucks; nigh impossible.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Black Mage on April 26, 2011, 05:41:33 PM
Why is it "good" to ostracize certain players from a game's features?

I'm going to flip this on you and ask why it's bad that extra, bonus content is available to those who exercise the multiplayer aspects of the game? You know, an aspect of the game they've been pushing since the series came out.

I'm not even entirely sure what aspects you're even complaining about, but from your social media comment I assume you predominantly mean the Dream World. I know you hate having to do anything in these games to get the rewards, but just because you don't want to doesn't make it bad design.

I'll concede it's bad for people without friends like Turtlekid, but that's more his problem than the game's.

While I haven't played around with Dream World and Extralink at all yet (I'm not even aware that it's accessible currently) but I like that the games are branching out and offering new features that provide a different experience than the mainline game.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on April 26, 2011, 05:52:31 PM
It's a bad thing because not everyone has friends.

Hence... y'know, the video games.

And it's probably that mentality that makes devs think they have the excuse to not make local multiplayer ifor games with online multiplayer. All gamers are light-fearing shut-ins who don't know anyone in real life so why bother
/me is still sour about Dead Rising 2 having online-exclusive co-op
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on April 26, 2011, 05:53:37 PM
extra, bonus content

Good.

to those who exercise the multiplayer aspects of the game

Bad. What if someone like N'ungujkibwe from Somalia or ShadowBrain was hoping to get an event Pokemon?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Black Mage on April 26, 2011, 06:13:03 PM
Bad. What if someone like N'ungujkibwe from Somalia or ShadowBrain was hoping to get an event Pokemon?

I have a difficult time comprehending this argument. You're suggesting that because some people, a minority of people, don't have access to the internet readily available in their homes that the developers of the game should completely forgo those technologies? Even when it's extra content?

You're making it sound like WiFi is some foreign technology that only the social elite have access to.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Turtlekid1 on April 26, 2011, 06:22:34 PM
My thoughts on the matter, just to be clear:

I really appreciate Wi-Fi trading and the like, and I personally think that we were much worse off when the only way to find someone to trade your Kadabra with to evolve it was to actually find someone to trade your Kadabra with to evolve it.  That said, they haven't made very good use of Wi-Fi yet.  Only recently have they begun to hold Wi-Fi events for event-only 'mons, and unless something has changed since Platinum, the GTS still only allows you to seek Pokemon you've already seen, which rather defeats the point of the GTS.  I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but most of the 'mons one has already seen can be expected to have already been caught.  Not all, but most.  You also can't customize your search parameters nearly enough for my taste.  You can set what level and gender you want the Pokemon to be, but that's about it, if I recall.  So the big problem at this point is the lack of options.

Or, at least, the big problem with multiplayer functions.

The other glaring problems with the series have already been discussed at length.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: WarpRattler on April 26, 2011, 06:24:15 PM
a minority of people
Er, the majority of the US still can't get decent broadband. We've had this discussion before.

Their arguments still suck, though, except for this bit:
I want a Pokemon game that can be 100%'d without any inter-game functions whatsoever.
I'm all for a Pokémon game where 100% completion is possible in single-player but is far easier if you have friends.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: ShadowBrain on April 26, 2011, 06:34:26 PM
All the new Event Pokemon appear to have sucked, so I don't think you have to worry about me. Besides, I can theoretically take my DS to my parents' business and use it--though the router is notoriously finicky even then...
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on April 26, 2011, 06:35:15 PM
I have a difficult time comprehending this argument. You're suggesting that because some people, a minority of people, don't have access to the internet readily available in their homes that the developers of the game should completely forgo those technologies? Even when it's extra content?

Why are you drawing this unnecessary connection between bonus content and online gameplay? Seeing as all this "extra content" is pre-programmed into the hardware, it should be available to every single person who spent forty dollars on the game -- regardless of multiplayer access.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on April 26, 2011, 06:56:50 PM
What about people who spent forty dollars on the game but not two hundred 'n fifty on a DS

I'll agree with you if what you ultimately mean is, we're in an age where paying for the Internet is preposterous and that worldwide free Wi-Fi that doesn't suck should have been a reality when 3G networks were invented, though...
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Black Mage on April 26, 2011, 10:39:14 PM
Er, the majority of the US still can't get decent broadband. We've had this discussion before.

Fair enough, and I don't really want to get into this debate. What I will say is that I think there is merit to assuming people with the disposable income to purchase a Nintendo DS and Pokemon Black/White probably have access in some form to the internet.

Why are you drawing this unnecessary connection between bonus content and online gameplay? Seeing as all this "extra content" is pre-programmed into the hardware, it should be available to every single person who spent forty dollars on the game -- regardless of multiplayer access.

I'm not drawing any conclusion. Much of the bonus content is relegated to or only accessible through online modes.

Look, I'm not arguing that it wouldn't be great if you could access 100% of the content of the game through single player modes. That'd be great, sure.

What I am saying is that is not how it is, and that fact alone doesn't make the extra content we do have bad.  It's not as though the fact that the internet is needed for some modes is hidden from the consumers. Sure, it's unfortunate for people who don't have access to modern conveniences such as the internet, but that's how it is.

I don't think the amount of online content is unreasonable, and quite frankly I'm not surprised that this is what we're complaining about this week.

Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on April 27, 2011, 12:30:40 PM
Much of the bonus content is relegated to or only accessible through online modes.

But it shouldn't be. That's all I'm saying.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on May 02, 2011, 07:41:19 PM
My Little Pokemon, anyone?

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F4.bp.blogspot.com%2F_8XlorG6n_cI%2FTTqbutklQKI%2FAAAAAAAAASk%2FlMjrtE6rywQ%2Fs1600%2F1292465605290.png&hash=defeaa175a191266a3a1bb9a4dd28616)
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Kojinka on May 19, 2011, 10:31:17 AM
my BW team was cured of Pokerus before I even knew they had it, so now I can't spread it.  DX  What the ****, dude?! That should not be allowed to happen!
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on May 19, 2011, 10:55:18 AM
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F-TJG4pIXzW_s%2FTa621-2nAWI%2FAAAAAAAACQI%2FlYKn_NPppHs%2Fs1600%2Fnelson-muntz.jpg&hash=8ede5a9c18a76d27276f570183ff9866)
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on May 21, 2011, 06:29:46 PM
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fchanarchive.org%2Fcontent%2F47_vp%2F6446151%2F1305943431041.png&hash=e9a604c2c04f5200d36a7b54117487cd)
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: CrossEyed7 on February 25, 2012, 10:02:16 PM
http://pokebeach.com/2012/02/pokemon-black-2-pokemon-white-2-announced-on-pokemon-smash
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on February 25, 2012, 10:26:17 PM
I'll get it, but I'll only play it once. The Action Replay I currently have isn't compatible with the upgrades required for compatability with B&W/B&W2, and buying a newer model isn't worth it. After all, W2 will likely be the last DS game I buy, and if it's anything like the original, it'll suck without Action Replay. It's kind of like how female ducks' vaginas have evolved to corkscrew in the opposite direction of the males' penises, just to make copulation more difficult. Well, this particular duck is tired of having to shell out an extra thirty dollars every few years just to get the most out of one game he's already paid for in full.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on February 25, 2012, 11:37:47 PM
This could land anywhere on a range between the worst case: more of the same [dukar] as Black and White and the worst stunt to grab more cash money that Game Freak has yet attempted... and the best case: something made to intentionally not be a retread, and so different as a result that it's the most unique game in the series.

So I'm going to not care. Then I won't be disappointed if it sucks
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: billy chilly on February 26, 2012, 01:41:15 AM
Psyched for B2W2... assuming they're sequels and not just "Pokemon Grey" or the enhanced third game. Pokemon Black 2 the future! http://shigeruslist.com/2012/02/25/pokemon-black-2/
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Kimimaru on February 26, 2012, 01:11:04 PM
I really liked Black and White, but I don't understand the reasoning behind this unless it's a full sequel. Then again, the endings to the games pretty much implied that there'll be something after them.

I'm not sure if I'm going to get this one. I'm roughly 15 or so Pokemon away from completing my Pokedex in my White version and I don't want to transfer everything over.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Ninjap00 on February 26, 2012, 08:19:55 PM
jesus why isn't it for 3ds
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: billy chilly on February 26, 2012, 10:06:12 PM
SERIOUSLY!  This doesn't make any sense to me. 
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: ShadowBrain on February 27, 2012, 01:24:33 PM
This is literally one of the stupidest things I've heard in recent memory.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Lizard Dude on February 27, 2012, 01:27:01 PM
Why?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: billy chilly on February 27, 2012, 01:49:03 PM
Well I wouldn't go so far as to say it's one of the stupidest things I've ever heard.  I'm willing to bet the 2DS still has a larger user-base than the 3DS, so while Pokemon B2W2 could/should be used to get more people to buy 3DSes, it looks like Nintendo is opting to sell more copies of B2W2 to the larger user-base.  It doesn't make a ton of sense in the long-term, but in the short-term it's not so crazy.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: WarpRattler on February 27, 2012, 04:06:44 PM
Yeah, releasing stuff for standard DS if it doesn't need 3D or gyroscope is still a very smart move a year after the 3DS's release. It's why there are still loads of PSP games planned for the next year in Japan, as well.

Weegee's complaints could be applied to a lot of modern games; he just doesn't know it because he only plays things on Nintendo platforms, where DLC hasn't been as much of a thing. He's going to be in for a rude awakening with the 3DS and Wii U!
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on February 27, 2012, 04:33:07 PM
But man, Pokémon games have been really, really ugly ever since D/P. DS 3D is just so hideous. DS mix of 2D sprites in a 3D environment is even worse. I don't know if it's entirely the DS's fault, either, I also mean things like the color choices for the battle backgrounds are terrible. The animations in Black and White are better than nothing, but when things rotate and move they always look so gritty. And I still can't believe how much of a step backwards the back-sprites are... I know it saves space and makes translating the animation from front to back much easier but it's still bad. Maybe they should have left out all the previous generations' Pokémon for real and poured their fullest effort into the new ones...
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Lizard Dude on March 26, 2012, 01:13:32 AM
Pokémon Battle Royale (http://pokemonbattleroyale.blogspot.com/)

This is pretty cool: an art show containing a piece for each of the first 151 Pokémon all done by different artists.

Examples:

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tumblr.com%2Fphoto%2F1280%2Ftinycartridge%2F19896582074%2F1%2Ftumblr_m1g6egB8Ey1qzp9we&hash=6ddfd0d40706d4870fb3a295fbf64855)


(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tumblr.com%2Fphoto%2F1280%2Ftinycartridge%2F19896582074%2F8%2Ftumblr_m1g6egB8Ey1qzp9we&hash=4f8a561f60dd4d5188a5e5b4f3e62a2c)


(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tumblr.com%2Fphoto%2F1280%2Ftinycartridge%2F19896582074%2F2%2Ftumblr_m1g6egB8Ey1qzp9we&hash=c25e79aa9ac138fb2ba3c5a3bfcc6f35)
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on March 26, 2012, 01:48:27 AM
I can't find the art anywhere on that site.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on March 26, 2012, 01:58:03 AM
I think I know whose Machoke that is.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: WarpRattler on April 06, 2012, 01:53:13 PM
Preordered Pokémon Conquest while picking up Xenoblade. Looking forward to that.

Also, I've been playing Pokémon Rumble Blast, which is pretty fun but incredibly simple.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on April 12, 2012, 04:01:51 PM
Time to revisit Unova kiddies (http://pokemon.marriland.com/news/435330/finally_real_black_2__white_2/)

Sounds like Gold and Silver without all the extra Pokemon. Here's hoping that they don't also gut old Unova just to make room for this new stuff.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Lizard Dude on April 13, 2012, 01:54:28 AM
Here's hoping that they don't also gut old Unova just to make room for this new stuff.
Quote from: http://pokemon.marriland.com
most all of the eastern and northern parts of Unova are blocked off by a frozen glacier spread
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on April 13, 2012, 09:57:32 AM
Them be some fast-growing glaciers.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on April 13, 2012, 12:29:54 PM
I was trying not to care about BW2 but I kept secretly hoping it would have the same characters. That way there could finally be a pokémon game that doesn't see you grabbing badges (since you already have them) and doing the same stuff we've been doing since the first games. This could have been the first game in the entire series to REALLY do anything different. I'm not impressed at all...
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: CrossEyed7 on April 13, 2012, 04:30:58 PM
Where's yer global warmin' now, eh?

I hope a plot point is that you have to get everyone to stop driving Priuses so the glacier will melt and you can go back home.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Luigison on April 23, 2012, 06:16:37 PM
Sorry if this has been posted, but I don't really follow Pokemon anymore:  http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~msandbot/pokemon/rubysapphire.html
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on July 01, 2012, 07:53:08 PM
Started a new game in White for the heck of it.

The Oshawott I first picked got +3 HP, +2 ATK, +2 DEF, +2 SP.ATK, +1 SP.DEF, +1 SPD on its first level-up. However, it had a Docile nature (no effect on stats), so I reset for a better one. This second Oshawott had a Naughty nature (+ATK/-SP.DEF), but its stats increased by only one point each when it grew a level. Did I make a boo-boo by choosing the second one? And generally speaking, which is more important: Good IVs or a beneficial nature?

EDIT: I just remembered one of the reasons why I quit playing White: The encounter rate is almost unbearable. Hopefully they'll tone it down in BW2.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Kimimaru on July 04, 2012, 01:51:28 AM
I think you mean IVs. In any case, the nature is more important because it gives a 10% boost to one stat and a 10% reduction to another stat, unless it's a nature that's neutral. If you're playing competitively you'll need both, though.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on July 04, 2012, 04:47:18 AM
Thanks. I did indeed mean IVs.

I find it funny that, as the release of B/W2 draws near, there's still assloads of content that's yet to be released for the preceding games.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: WarpRattler on July 04, 2012, 05:33:13 AM
Some tidbits from #tmk regular Drill's White 2 Japanese playthrough (spoilered in case anyone doesn't want to hear about them yet):

-DOGARS!
-The game features a new "hard mode," with higher-level trainers and different team comps all over the place, including the Elite Four. You apparently gain access by finishing the game, or by linking with someone else who has the mode available (this can be done before starting a new file).
-When a Repel runs out, the game now asks you if you want to use another Repel.
-              DOGARS!
-The game features a "Memory Link" function, which allows you to link your B/W save data to B2/W2. This makes it so that certain events recounted in-game feature your old character's information; this is pretty surreal when your previous character has the same name as the current one.
-There are some pretty crazy world events based on the current date. Expect things like towns being invaded by Pokémon on certain days of the week.
-                        DOGARS!                       (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8T6dvEuV7hk)               
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Lizard Dude on July 04, 2012, 01:25:38 PM
Does she speak Japanese?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: WarpRattler on July 04, 2012, 02:59:54 PM
She reads it well enough to be able to import and completely play through the Japanese versions of these games every time. You could just ask her yourself, you know.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BriGuy92 on July 05, 2012, 09:59:09 AM
DOGARS!
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on July 05, 2012, 10:31:29 AM
What the DOGAR? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8T6dvEuV7hk) (Music spoiler)

WAHN, TOO, THLEE, FOH
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on August 14, 2012, 03:10:46 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtXKEu6S-kM
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: bobbysq1337 on August 15, 2012, 02:13:57 AM
Wait, is B&Wv2 a remake or a sequel, because the whatever the GBA games were and D&P haven't been remade yet.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on August 15, 2012, 02:34:28 AM
Both
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: bobbysq1337 on August 15, 2012, 04:42:54 AM
Why are they remaking a game less than a year old? It has spread from Hollywood to the game industry apparently.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: The Chef on August 15, 2012, 08:58:46 AM
(Hint: BP was kidding.)
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on August 15, 2012, 01:55:12 PM
Why are they remaking a game less than a year old?
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.bulbagarden.net%2Fupload%2Fthumb%2F2%2F2b%2FPokemon_Yellow_boxart.jpg%2F250px-Pokemon_Yellow_boxart.jpg&hash=e3b7ba715ab1faf2448d4735f183d0f1)(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.bulbagarden.net%2Fupload%2Fthumb%2Ff%2Ffe%2FPokemoncrystal.jpg%2F250px-Pokemoncrystal.jpg&hash=95b28ec830fbddbbcb98c2e647a814d5)
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.bulbagarden.net%2Fupload%2Fthumb%2Fd%2Fdb%2FPokemon_Emerald_boxart_EN-US.jpg%2F250px-Pokemon_Emerald_boxart_EN-US.jpg&hash=67f4bdd156f8bd2ea1be960ceb7e7fae)(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.bulbagarden.net%2Fupload%2Fthumb%2Fc%2Fc4%2FPlatinum-box.png%2F250px-Platinum-box.png&hash=ed7e1fa60f7766d6e47672fc2f2bf475)

I'm being a little unfair though. There are more differences with B2W2 than there would have been with "Gray." Probably. Just wish Game Freak would do something surprising for once. But I guess when you've got a formula that's proven to sell repeatedly...
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on August 15, 2012, 03:44:20 PM
whatever the GBA games were

ಠ_ಠ
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on August 26, 2012, 04:00:19 AM
Go go go!
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on August 27, 2012, 05:09:55 AM
Gee, you guys must be putting a lot of work into yours!
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Toad on August 27, 2012, 10:40:07 AM
I actually am. I have a hard time picking favorites, and have only played generations 1 and 4 (unless gen 2 remakes count).
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Markio on August 27, 2012, 10:57:28 AM
I stuck with 1st generation.  I never really liked any of the pokemon from 2nd or 3rd gen, and I haven't played past Emerald.

Bug = Parasect
Dragon = Dragonite
Electric = Jolteon
Fighting = n/a
Fire = Charizard
Flying = Zapdos
Ghost = Gengar
Grass = Bulbasaur
Ground = Nidoking
Ice = Articuno
Normal = Jigglypuff
Poison = Beedrill
Psychic = Starmie
Rock = Golem
Water = Gyarados
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on August 28, 2012, 12:54:47 AM
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmaaaash.net%2Fdrawn%2Ffavpokes.png&hash=d9af9a7cf0e4e52341490bc036a59da8)
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on August 28, 2012, 10:54:59 AM
[darnit], BP

I DIDN'T MEAN THAT MUCH EFFORT

THREAD RUINED
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Markio on August 28, 2012, 12:30:12 PM
I tried to make my fonts different colors, according to type, but it didn't work.

Slugma looks hilariously apprehensive.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: The Chef on August 28, 2012, 12:39:12 PM
Colored text has been disabled on here for eons now.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on October 07, 2012, 07:50:26 PM
Didn't get around to picking up W2 today, and tomorrow is a work holiday.

Stupid family gatherings.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on October 08, 2012, 11:53:47 AM
This actually exists.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on October 08, 2012, 12:58:31 PM
but oshawott, snivy and tepig weren't in blue

peta you morons
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on October 08, 2012, 01:55:55 PM
They even had the gall to throw in a Mudkipz reference.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: bobbysq1337 on October 08, 2012, 02:16:56 PM
Why are they "worrying" about fictional animals fighting in a fictional game where the fictional animals don't even mind. (yes I know they are just trying to make a big deal over nothing for publicly)
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Lizard Dude on October 08, 2012, 02:24:05 PM
but oshawott, snivy and tepig weren't in blue

peta you morons
Isn't this Black & Blue?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on October 08, 2012, 02:44:26 PM
The joke is that Pokémon Black and Pokémon Blue both exist
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Lizard Dude on October 09, 2012, 02:45:26 AM
Yes, and OSHAWOTT, SNIVY, and TEPIG come from Black. So... I don't get your joke.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on October 09, 2012, 03:20:49 AM
You are right. It is not a very good joke.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Toad on October 09, 2012, 08:09:16 AM
Pikachu is in Blue, so it could work.

Pikachu is in all of them!, so it's a stretch..
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on October 11, 2012, 09:08:44 PM
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.bulbagarden.net%2Fupload%2Fthumb%2F0%2F08%2FRuby_Sapphire_Drake.png%2F180px-Ruby_Sapphire_Drake.png&hash=27db3468780c3c9df5677ed188748ecc)(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mariowiki.com%2Fimages%2Fthumb%2Fc%2Fc9%2FBobbery1.png%2F200px-Bobbery1.png&hash=ed1d9fc000f9664b11f467062022bd80)

Separated at birth?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Markio on October 19, 2012, 09:09:16 PM
Speaking of images of Pokemon, has anyone seen this realistic pokemon art (http://arvalis.deviantart.com/gallery/39915677)?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Koopaslaya on October 20, 2012, 08:13:10 AM
Markio, Scyther is terrifying in these images. Also, Dragonie does not look as friendly as I imagined him. These Pokemon are FIERCE.

Cool, for sure, though!
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Lizard Dude on October 23, 2012, 07:50:41 PM
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F25.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_mccvlyeqzi1qzp9weo1_500.gif&hash=989e7e6067fdb26b24ca3b38d943df21)

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F24.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_mccvlyeqzi1qzp9weo2_1280.gif&hash=afe7a1f30e5699d1af42d82dc09c5684)
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F24.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_mccvlyeqzi1qzp9weo3_1280.gif&hash=3ccb66aa8731e2873db878efe5c9449f)
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F24.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_mccvlyeqzi1qzp9weo4_1280.gif&hash=0ef916b6ede8cefe011f96391dd87ef9)
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F24.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_mccvlyeqzi1qzp9weo5_1280.gif&hash=974e49a619c0f5b25f1252f6c1c4aaaf)
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on October 23, 2012, 07:55:54 PM
Quote
Going about it's day
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Markio on October 24, 2012, 12:11:14 AM
I like how Bulbasaur is wise and uses an analogy related to his type.

I'm guessing you've heard of Letters to an Absent Father (http://mareodomo.com/index.php?/comics/letters-to-an-absent-father/)?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: CrossEyed7 on October 25, 2012, 08:56:37 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qrHgXg-cfc
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on October 25, 2012, 08:59:17 PM
My fist is stuck in some drywall. Please send help
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on October 26, 2012, 06:16:14 PM
That reminds me, Beheeyem's anime voice is one of the most ridiculous things you'll ever hear. Can't seem to find the video, though.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Lizard Dude on October 31, 2012, 08:01:38 PM
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fcrl8y.jpg&hash=83ee01c0b0ddf140b308512895ff4012)
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Lizard Dude on November 07, 2012, 01:57:28 AM
...I'm on the verge of buying this (http://winelips.bigcartel.com/product/pokebutts-mini-comic-pre-order). Help.

Please help.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on November 07, 2012, 02:50:01 AM
Kinky
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Lizard Dude on November 07, 2012, 03:12:08 AM
Thanks to the lack of your help, I'm buying it for sure now.

But which Pokémon should I choose for the special custom drawing?

Which Pokémon has the most interesting butt?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: WarpRattler on November 07, 2012, 03:17:55 AM
Girafarig and Wobbuffet have faces coming from their butts, so I recommend one of them.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on November 07, 2012, 03:57:46 PM
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_m7hbrpFhQD1qfs2jz.png&hash=aa30000ce164a1492dfd0da5c19821bb)

I wonder what you'd get if you requested an Unown butt.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Markio on November 08, 2012, 10:50:54 AM
Probably a pokemon without a tail, and probably one that looks super serious and masculine.  Like Geodude, Electabuzz, Gyarados...
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on November 08, 2012, 03:36:05 PM
You know Unown is a Pokemon, right?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Markio on November 08, 2012, 09:22:12 PM
Yes.  I was responding to Lizard Dude's question about which pokemon to choose for his custom drawing.  I can see how my post was confusing by the order in which it appeared.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Toad on November 08, 2012, 11:40:17 PM
MARKIO used CONFUSE RAY

It's SUPER EFFECTIVE



Why does a thing such as the thing LD bought exist anyway.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Kuromatsu on November 09, 2012, 12:45:12 AM
Personally, I'd rather have a Pokéhips picture book

(https://www.weasyl.com/static/submission/b3/f1/e3/e7/0d/5d/18944.submit.3303.png)
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Lizard Dude on November 09, 2012, 01:44:48 AM
Why does a thing such as the thing LD bought exist anyway.
Because sometimes the world is rad.

Sometimes the good guys win.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on November 09, 2012, 04:18:01 PM
Pokehips

Somewhere, someone in the world has fapped to that.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Ultima Shadow on November 18, 2012, 06:58:50 PM
Which Pokémon has the most interesting butt?

Missingno.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on December 14, 2012, 06:50:54 PM
Language.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Bigluigifan1.0 on December 14, 2012, 07:31:26 PM
I've been playing Black and Platinum a lot lately. I finished Black, but somehow I suck at the other. Soul Silver looks really cool.

Also, transfers are pretty cool.

... Also, I think the most obscene "Pokebutt" would be something along the lines of Diglett or whichever two look the most like either set of male/female anatomy... I forget.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on December 14, 2012, 09:36:59 PM
Onix and Cloyster? There's even a boyfriend/girlfriend in FireRed and LeafGreen who use those two in a double battle...
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Bigluigifan1.0 on December 14, 2012, 09:53:33 PM
Ah yes, that sounds about right. This is just me, but like the Kirby stage that looked like a woman, I don't think that was an accident.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: WarpRattler on January 08, 2013, 05:13:59 AM
Pokémon X and Y announced for 3DS. Simultaneous international release in October 2013.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Ym9iYnlzcTEzMzc equalsign on January 08, 2013, 06:37:49 AM
did they run out of colors

or are you just making a joke
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Toad on January 08, 2013, 07:24:24 AM
He's serious (http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml)
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Bigluigifan1.0 on January 08, 2013, 07:42:51 AM
I only recently got into Pokemon in the past couple months, but even I know that Pokemon X/Y is pretty much exactly what fans have been asking for. Except of course, having an adventure title on a home console.

Looking forward to it. Since my brother is also very interested in this one, we'll probably do it like we did Black/White and pick one for each of us. Right now I'm leaning more toward X, if only for the Legendary.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on January 08, 2013, 02:31:45 PM
A frog starter!

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpokebeach.com%2Fnews%2F0113%2Ffroakie.jpg&hash=e6120e967af9218fc4e6066f9fdadfa4)

Yay!
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Bigluigifan1.0 on January 08, 2013, 04:47:00 PM
haha, I almost always pick the water starter. That's a definite one for me, although the fire starter looked really cool too.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on January 08, 2013, 05:48:06 PM
Graphics remind me of Dragon Quest IX. Not as bad as I imagined a main-series 3D release as being.

Questions: How will that Fire starter manage to carry on the tradition of being part-Fighting by its third stage? What's the Grass starter supposed to be, anyway? Seeing as the game's region is supposedly based on France, can we expect the evil team to surrender after the first battle? What are the chances of Froakie's final evolution being an ugly [dukar]blob like Seismitoad?

EDIT: People are theorizing Chespin will end up Grass/Dark, Fennekin Fire/Psychic, and Froakie Water/Fighting. Thoughts?

EDIT EDIT: I can't wait for Pokemon Z, in which a new city based on London will be accessible through an underwater passageway analogous with the English Channel.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Godot on January 08, 2013, 07:17:00 PM
You know, when Pokémon stadium came out, I thought to myself, "Self, it would be super *****in if this was the combat to a real pokemon game. But those are always on handhelds, so that won't ever happen." And then I was sad.

It never occurred to me that handhelds would get powerful enough to make that a possibility.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on January 08, 2013, 07:37:18 PM
From the trailer it looks like this has better/more animation than any of the console games ever had.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Toad on January 08, 2013, 08:55:23 PM
The combat seems to be what would happen if Pokemon Stadium and Smash Bros had a baby.

I like it!


But, they say we will get to see some of our favorites from past games.. Does that mean this one can trade/transfer between all previous DS Pokemon titles..?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on January 08, 2013, 09:17:51 PM
More than likely. The only games you can't do that with are generation 2 (G/S/C) to 3 (R/S/E/FR/LG), because the data structures for Pokémon were overhauled. You can have literally ten-year-old Pokémon still kickin' around in your new games.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: CrossEyed7 on January 08, 2013, 11:42:29 PM
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fth09.deviantart.net%2Ffs70%2FPRE%2Ff%2F2013%2F008%2F3%2F0%2Ffennekin___pokemon_xy_fire_starter_by_spacevoyager-d5qwjzr.jpg&hash=95846fc3a25e019b710a08750b0fac7b) (http://spacevoyager.deviantart.com/art/Fennekin-Pokemon-XY-Fire-Starter-347519799)
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on January 09, 2013, 06:41:25 PM
Never underestimate a horny furry.

But, they say we will get to see some of our favorites from past games.. Does that mean this one can trade/transfer between all previous DS Pokemon titles..?

That's probably a reference to the regional Pokedex including some older Pokemon. No doubt it'll be possible to transfer Pokemon from B&W to X&Y.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on January 11, 2013, 11:06:19 PM
How mad would you be?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: CrossEyed7 on January 12, 2013, 03:14:48 PM
plot twist: all three starters become fire/fighting
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Hello:) on January 12, 2013, 03:26:31 PM
Plot twist: FROAKIE IS SPY.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on January 12, 2013, 05:10:17 PM
plot twist: all three starters become fire/fighting

Fire starter becomes Fire/Fighting, Grass and Water starters become Grass/Water and Water/Grass, respectively.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Lizard Dude on January 13, 2013, 03:31:28 AM
Remember fifteen years ago when everyone always complained, "They just title all the new games by slapping 64 onto it!"

I want a time machine to go back and tell them of their grim future where they're playing New Super Mario Bros. U and Pokémon Y.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: WarpRattler on January 13, 2013, 07:06:41 AM
In the grim darkness of the future, there are only letters.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on January 13, 2013, 05:29:33 PM
Do people really care what games are titled that much?

In X and Y's defense Pokémon technically isn't just now breaking away from colors. Nobody uses "Diamond" to refer to a color.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Toad on January 13, 2013, 07:26:22 PM
Mother of Pearl!

Diamond is usually more of a noun than anything.. Kind of a diamond shape, baseball diamond, diamond cut (referring to how rings are cut fyi)
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Lizard Dude on January 13, 2013, 08:06:57 PM
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F24.media.tumblr.com%2F802e19c4ffbf2a12b6527b398f59c541%2Ftumblr_mgkni73iwk1qzp9weo3_400.png&hash=baf6c6fa7c574e7c739dc174600e0788)
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on January 13, 2013, 08:24:34 PM
God hates you.

Leaked artwork of Froakie's final evolution:

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages2.wikia.nocookie.net%2F__cb20081016191337%2Fzelda%2Fimages%2Fd%2Fd3%2FZephos.png&hash=21b6589dfa6505d6c9b3c04f0635829c)
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Markio on January 14, 2013, 04:49:49 PM
/me finds out he's not a tadpole...
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on January 25, 2013, 02:16:53 PM
Keldeo is being given out via Mystery Gift on B2/W2, in case you missed the first distro.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on February 11, 2013, 10:56:16 PM
New Eeveelution revealed, presumably Normal-type.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on February 11, 2013, 11:53:56 PM
Looks Flying-type to me.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on February 12, 2013, 12:20:36 AM
B-BUT SEREBII SAID

Actually, a few people have noted its passing resemblance to Skyla (http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101128063548/pokemon/images/7/71/Black_White_Fuuro.png).

Some are thinking it's Love-type.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on February 16, 2013, 11:58:11 AM
wat
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on February 16, 2013, 02:03:45 PM
Did you know Eevee and all its evolutions have a seven male to one female ratio

Why did they decide to do that if they had no intention to end the trend of designing most of them to look overtly feminine

llıʇs ʇnq 'sɹəʇɹɐʇs əɥʇ əʞıl 'pəəɹq oʇ ɹəpɹɐɥ ɯəɥʇ əʞɐɯ oʇ :ɐ
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on February 16, 2013, 02:24:18 PM
I wouldn't say Jolteon, Flareon, Umbreon, or Leafeon look particularly feminine.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: ShadowBrain on February 18, 2013, 07:37:11 PM
I know a few Deviantart members that would disagree.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on February 18, 2013, 08:04:04 PM
DON'T EVEN

I WON'T FORGIVE THEM FOR WHAT THEY DID TO DRAGONITE

EDIT: New types revealed.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: The Chef on February 19, 2013, 01:26:12 AM
how funny/clever
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: WarpRattler on February 19, 2013, 01:30:41 AM
No examples for Salt/Fighting?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on February 19, 2013, 05:14:26 PM
I'm more bothered by the lack of Jew-type moves.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on February 19, 2013, 05:20:48 PM
Not Pay Day
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on February 19, 2013, 05:21:31 PM
Not Nasty Plot either
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: ShadowBrain on February 19, 2013, 08:00:35 PM
Confusion?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on February 19, 2013, 08:07:27 PM
Trick?

Flatter?

Odor Sleuth?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on February 28, 2013, 04:26:06 AM
I'm making this cool chart/database/whatever for ME and NO ONE ELSE because it is loaded with all my strategies and plans and stuff in great detail and those are secret

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgyazo.com%2F04a4a0f635bdb4b39e02e42bd78b2546.png%3F1362045868&hash=9cbac5df7fef4e4a7abf3d346f225212)
Yeah that's right I do like Politoed. Each one of them does something different and I'm never going to be done getting more of them.

Each icon is a pokémon I have and you hover over one to change the table to show their stuff

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgyazo.com%2F4742aa22a9ae292b37acdd5daa8a92ce.png%3F1362045939&hash=abc27aadd71d35b6ff47b13c18304787)
the "wanting" section is gonna have a whole lot more in there soon enough, I just came up with something really devilish that I want a Bastiodon to do for me and jotted it down

And I can drag the icons around to group them, compare them easier, or whatever

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgyazo.com%2F133ed4de10a5ab9490aeb9f4c61d6483.png%3F1362046183&hash=6c90f0d4d25305b9df41aa0c1245e204)
Wow, those IVs! What a great and viable shiny this is. Great job, RNG. Yeah.

Doing the IVs, EVs, and stats is taking the longest. Look at this

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgyazo.com%2F896d000a8b72df0ba7321d77c49916db.png&hash=bf9866c31f06507eddc962c29d58a33a)
So nope you don't want one of your own after all do you

Nothing to be impressed at, I stole the necessary javascript off the Internet and the rest is basic HTML. But it's pretty cool and will be really useful when I'm done with everything I currently already have.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: jdaster64 on February 28, 2013, 11:41:05 AM
^ Why I refuse to play Pokémon.  I just know I'd spend countless hours setting up stat predictors and trackers like that.

Looks pretty awesome, though.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Bigluigifan1.0 on February 28, 2013, 01:09:53 PM
I spend way too much time on Pokemon; I recently finished the Sinnoh Pokedex in Platinum, and I just realized how much of a huge tease the PokeRadar is...

These luck/chance themes common to the Pokemon series only have so much novelty before they become mind-numbingly annoying. I still refuse to get sucked into the stat aspect of the game, though; I could never commit to that kind of legwork in a video game.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on February 28, 2013, 01:19:55 PM
They do keep making it easier and easier though. In R/S/FR/LG, there was no way to breed for natures. Emerald made it so mothers would pass theirs down 50% of the time if they held and Everstone. Either Platinum or HG/SS got the fathers in on that too, and BW2 changed it to a certainty. So that's nice.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on February 28, 2013, 06:02:35 PM
>Confuse Ray
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Toad on February 28, 2013, 07:26:10 PM
/me is confused! Ray hurt itself in its confusion!


I still barely have a grasp on IV's, EV's and natures. I understand that having a certain nature on a certain 'mon will help it level up in a certain stat, but that's about all I get.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on February 28, 2013, 10:37:24 PM
If you want any further in, good luck. It's not a two-way street.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on February 28, 2013, 10:43:28 PM
That Crobat's IVs are pitiful. Couldn't you have made one parent hold a Power Anklet or something?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on February 28, 2013, 10:56:02 PM
I didn't breed her, found her in a cave in Platinum. Nice nature, but abysmal IVs and no chance at Brave Bird unless it becomes a tutor move or TM in the future. I was much luckier with my shiny Gastrodon. Yes I have a shiny Gastrodon, I know there's two visually different forms, and I hate having to clarify that, so the game still hates me!
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on March 01, 2013, 05:41:13 PM
Check your shiny privilege. Aside from event/story Pokemon, I haven't found a shiny since Crystal.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on March 01, 2013, 06:40:01 PM
I've found that Crobat (as a Golbat), a Golem (as a Graveler), an Elgyem, a Gastrodon, and hatched eggs with the Masuda Method for three days to get my Politoed. I'm not unsatisfied. I wouldn't bother trying for any other, I just make the best of whatever I happen to find. The Gastrodon is probably the highlight of them all. Good IVs, awesome nature, and Storm Drain. Really great for doubles in the rain.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on March 01, 2013, 07:05:52 PM
You might like this.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on March 01, 2013, 07:57:55 PM
saved.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on March 01, 2013, 08:57:14 PM
Starter evos leaked.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on March 03, 2013, 12:41:43 AM
\\\
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Toad on March 03, 2013, 09:36:40 AM
I know the toothpicks are there to hold him up, but they are really inconveniently placed.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Lizard Dude on March 06, 2013, 08:40:22 PM
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FXvT9LQv.gif&hash=7f89fe9bdfb7de891124122475a88ad9)
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: ShadowBrain on March 06, 2013, 09:38:05 PM
"What is Dug?"
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on March 07, 2013, 11:29:03 AM
I walked into White 2's Elite Four with only a few Revives, ran out of them after defeating two members, and am now trying to get more through the Dream Radar. I've only gotten two out of six cloud-lasering sessions because apparently burying me in Sun and Moon Stones is supposed to be more helpful.

Edit: Swept Caitlin with my Crustle, ended up using both Revives after Marshal, didn't have much of a problem with Iris. Final team: Watt (Ampharos♀), C.Blackeye (Krookodile♂), Jeff (Crustle♂), Viridi (Sawsbuck♀), The Bumble (Beartic♂), Jenny (Golurk).

Now it's time to trade everything over from my not-real White game and blow up the PWT and Battle Subway. And wait for X and Y... where I'll do it again. And so long as Game Freak keeps the games compatible with each other, again and again until I am battling my grandchildren with pokémon real decades older than them. Oh my god.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Bigluigifan1.0 on March 07, 2013, 02:11:09 PM
"This is not your grandfather's Pokemon..."

As soon as I can, I'll be demolishing Black 2 in order to put a decent dent in X... plus old pokemans is cool.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on March 07, 2013, 08:57:28 PM
You think someone could edit its nature to "edgy"?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on March 07, 2013, 09:19:36 PM
N was right.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on March 07, 2013, 09:34:37 PM
Don't click this.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on March 16, 2013, 05:47:47 PM
I really love Triples and the World tournament has finally given me somewhere I can actually test what works in them.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on March 16, 2013, 07:03:31 PM
My main issue with Triples is how so few moves can hit non-adjacent foes.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on March 21, 2013, 02:08:06 PM
I think enough do. The whole deal is/can be deciding who is in the middle because they can hit anyone, but can be hit by anyone. Do you put in a sweeper who can take out everything with a move like Eruption or Earthquake, or do you put a bulky support in the middle to cover your sides?

I've been creating a Moxie Earthquake sweeping machine for Triples. The center is a Krookodile (C.Blackeye) and the sides are Electabuzz (BROW) and, for now, Togekiss (Airplane!). On the first turn, Airplane! uses Tailwind, C.Blackeye uses Protect and BROW uses Magnet Rise, and on the second both Airplane! and BROW use Follow Me while C.Blackeye uses Earthquake; on the first turn it's usually not enough to OHKO anything, and he's not invested in defenses at all, so Follow Mes are important to protect him. Eviolite turns Electabuzz surprisingly bulky. After two turns of doing this, C.Blackeye will more than likely have KO'd some things and will have Moxie boosting his Attack, one stage per KO; a triple KO gives him 250% power just like that. No need for a Choice Scarf for Speed or a Choice Band for power: a Life Orb gives him a little extra boost while also allowing the use of Rock Slide or Crunch when it's a better option than Earthquake.

I was using a Whimsicott (Booty) to set up Tailwind with Prankster priority before the Togekiss, but his inability to learn Follow Me left one side free to attack C.Blackeye on that crucial second turn. But a Worry Seed, also prioritized by Prankster, means that he can disable Levitating opponents before C.Blackeye's Earthquake, while avoiding the Earthquake itself by way of an Air Balloon. He's still on the team and can contribute if one of the Follow Me users gets KO'd, usually Airplane!, because Airplane! is faster than BROW which means she takes attacks from the middle opponent when both use Follow Me. And she's less bulky and can't nullify her weaknesses like BROW can.

Initially, Aqua Jet and Ice Shard were of some concern, but Follow Me takes priority over those.

So this is just one thing, revolving entirely around making one ability as useful as possible, and I came up with it all on my own and I am a moron. Imagine what else you can do. Gastro Acid works on Slaking...

edit and

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmaaaash.net%2Fdrawn%2Fquagbluh.gif&hash=ea42f6fe8b4e6d00b1ca2f4c9fa1f049)
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Lizard Dude on March 22, 2013, 11:18:43 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMgGowLgb_0
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: The Chef on March 23, 2013, 12:48:19 AM
I think I might be more tired of gritty reboot parodies than I am of actual gritty reboots. :|
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on April 26, 2013, 11:27:26 PM
In Black and White 2 there is a place called Join Avenue. It's basically a shopping mall that is completely empty when you get there the first time. Naturally, the owner decides to make you completely responsible for it on the spot.

You invite passersby (NPCs who spawn daily, or other players you have traded or battled with) to open shops there, or recommend them to visit the shops that are already there to rank them up, unlocking buyable things you can't get anywhere else in the game. Some of the types of shops are fighting rings and sandwich shops where, after enough ranks, you can pay to level up your Pokémon.

I have three Dojos ranked 8, 6 and 5. I also have one Cafe ranked 9. Altogether I can buy 17 level-ups a day this way, and when my Cafe hits rank 10 I'll unlock another 8 all at once. My lesser Dojos unlock another 3 each at rank 8 and they'll all get another 4 at rank 10. If I'm counting right, I'll be able to buy 43 level-ups a day at the end.

When my shops were ranked lower and I only could buy 9 a day, I added up the differences among all my battling Pokémon from 100 and determined that at that rate, if I made sure to go to Join Avenue every day, it would take until October to get them all to level 100; right before X and Y come out. I'll be done long before then now due to the rank-ups.

Where do I get the money to pay for this? The Wing items found in the shadows on bridges. They spawn like mad and can be sold for 1500 each.

I am not asking myself any questions of whether this is video game morally acceptable.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Kuromatsu on April 27, 2013, 06:48:12 PM
Considering how many hours I wasted in Diamond to get dozens of pokémon to level 100, Join Avenue is one feature I wholeheartedly approve of.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Suffix on April 28, 2013, 04:59:35 AM
I remember playing LeafGreen, where the Elite Four would become vastly more powerful after beating them the first time. They didn't do that in Diamond, and the result was painful.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on April 28, 2013, 02:44:02 PM
Platinum was a bit better in that regard.

I got Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Gates to Infinity last month. It's not bad, though the lack of older Pokemon is a letdown.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on April 28, 2013, 06:09:15 PM
I like gen 5's additions a lot, so that doesn't bother me all that much. The tiny tiny player character choice pool does. I'm gonna wait until it's known whether or not there will be an updated version like Explorers of Sky.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on May 13, 2013, 10:50:46 PM
http://www.serebii.net/xy/pokemon.shtml

New Pokemon.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: ShadowBrain on May 14, 2013, 03:50:08 PM
"New" is a generous term.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on May 14, 2013, 04:27:12 PM
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpokemon.neoseeker.com%2Fw%2Fi%2Fpokemon%2F8%2F86%2F303.png&hash=faed0a5116770dfce21c77629c9af825)
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.serebii.net%2Fxy%2Fhelioptile.png&hash=0c0797386a81562cca52f32eda930805)

First thing that crossed my mind.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Toad on May 14, 2013, 07:56:16 PM
I don't see it. There could be a vague connection, maybe.. Maybe they'll be in the same evo line..
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on May 14, 2013, 08:00:13 PM
They aren't (bottom is Normal/Electric), but I initially thought it was Mawile's prevo.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Toad on May 14, 2013, 08:01:16 PM
Ah. Hmmm..

/me continues to try and connect the two, though that is probably fruitless at this point
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Bigluigifan1.0 on May 15, 2013, 08:27:20 AM
I get the feeling Fletchlings will be very plentiful in this game...

Pancham looks pretty cool.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on May 15, 2013, 11:07:33 AM
Don't be so sure. Unova was pleasantly uninfested with anything. Patrat only appeared on the first three routes and Pidove appeared on just one route and in a forest right near it.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Lizard Dude on May 15, 2013, 11:13:00 AM
Since the 3DS isn't hacked yet, part of me thinks this will be a great time for playing Pokémon without the ever-present crippling thoughts about all the hacked and cheated Pokémon other people are using.

Until the smarter part of me remembers all the hacked and cheated Pokémon that will be transferred into the game from prior generations.

God I hate Pokémon.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: bobbysq1337 on May 15, 2013, 11:58:02 AM
Since the 3DS isn't hacked yet, part of me thinks this will be a great time for playing Pokémon without the ever-present crippling thoughts about all the hacked and cheated Pokémon other people are using.

Until the smarter part of me remembers all the hacked and cheated Pokémon that will be transferred into the game from prior generations.

God I hate Pokémon.
Since the 3DS can update games, shouldn't it be able to greatly reduce the amount of hacks?

There's also the possibility of some complex system that changes the hex values for different Pokemon in saves based on a pseudorandom number stored on Nintendo servers, thus completely altering entire saves if the values are frozen.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on May 15, 2013, 09:19:24 PM
Kalos Region, setting of X/Y.

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.serebii.net%2Fkaros.jpg&hash=84b7a3f4bb2fe50d27fe013cabfae9f1)
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on June 03, 2013, 10:53:57 AM
Update on my Join Avenue: Three Rank 10 Dojos, one Rank 10 Cafe, one Rank 5 Cafe. 45 buyable level-ups a day. I'm wanting to replace my Berry Shop (also Rank 10) with a new Cafe because I had it developed to gain access to Salac Berries and now I have plenty of them, but I'd prefer a female NPC to run it so I'd have somewhere to send the NPCs who ask to visit any shop run by a girl, while I can send the ones asking to visit one run by a male can go to the Rank 5 one. No women wanting to open a cafe has appeared in my game for a long time.

But maybe I'd better not even bother. I've got three Pokémon left in White 2 who aren't level 100, one of whom wasn't in the original calculations, and was just a few days ago EV trained entirely from 0 to 510 using only Join Avenue services and Irons/HP Ups bought there. It's only going to take four more days to get them all there, and then... it'll just be there as a tool for other Pokémon I want later.

Everything's been made so simple by this that I feel liberated somehow. For the last couple of years I haven't wanted to even play through a game's story without making sure my party pokémon have the right natures, won't be locked out of the best movesets, and have at least average IVs because I wanted to be able to use them competitively later. Having them leveled up as high as a playthrough would get them eliminates a lot of the work. In short, I'm hugely opposed to wasted effort of all kinds. But now, there's so little work I actually have to do, I could more readily just play through a storyline for the heck of it.

----------------

Update on my awesome personal stats DB: My HDD is breaking! I just recently backed a lot of things up to DVD-Rs, can get all my movies and TV shows back from my friends and all my art is online, so that DB is the file I'm most concerned about. It's the only one I'm currently actively trying to find with DiskDigger. The only luck I've had so far is finding the earliest version of the file, just testing the hovering and changing table. I'd put a lot more work into it (http://gyazo.com/e9eec1f52eb7cebd079a52f8be6f86ca.png), highlighting the table cells for nature-boosted and -nerfed stats in green and red, coloring the cells for moves according to type and adding move details.

I didn't upload it or back it up anywhere so I'm really hoping DiskDigger turns it up. Not sure how far into the disk it could be. I've scanned most of the first 25% and not found it, it could be earlier or later depending on what may have or have not been deleted and left holes for the file to fill. It could even be fragmented or corrupted, or in a sliver of a percent that I haven't checked.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on June 05, 2013, 05:55:31 PM
Got it back!
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: KoopaTrooper on June 05, 2013, 06:06:36 PM
-snip-

Like it will actually look like that ingame.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on June 05, 2013, 06:20:30 PM
The art style is certainly different from past generations' maps.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Tavros on June 12, 2013, 01:58:13 PM
B-BUT SEREBII SAID

Actually, a few people have noted its passing resemblance to Skyla (http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101128063548/pokemon/images/7/71/Black_White_Fuuro.png).

Some are thinking it's Love-type.
Turns out it's a Fairy-type.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on June 12, 2013, 02:37:24 PM
http://www.serebii.net/xy/pokemon.shtml

Finally got that Mantis Shrimp Pokemon.

"Talonflame" is the worst name for a Pokemon since someone named their Charizard "Blaze".
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on June 14, 2013, 10:33:53 PM
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgyazo.com%2F1601145b0edf2e464b7e65865272ffba.png&hash=eca00a8e2107bc188a09c5d221c61133)
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: bobbysq1337 on June 14, 2013, 11:11:32 PM
I can't help but think
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.imgur.com%2Fnimmdi2.png&hash=0b055f9067e0b01cf38e21a736521e78)
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on July 12, 2013, 03:42:41 PM
Not terribly impressed by the newest reveals. This is like Gen III all over again. (http://www.serebii.net/xy/pokemon.shtml)
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on July 12, 2013, 06:33:19 PM
I love Swirlix.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Bigluigifan1.0 on July 13, 2013, 11:26:37 AM
Me too; definitely getting X. My brother will be getting Y, so we'll trade the exclusives when we catch them.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on July 14, 2013, 05:43:43 PM
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FTdrhZS1.jpg&hash=0a860557812d0839468ffb47dcb70d1e)

For wegetable
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on July 14, 2013, 05:49:47 PM
I'LL TAKE TEN
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on August 20, 2013, 08:32:41 AM
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.minus.com%2FibselVzcGIp1Ki.gif&hash=c1bd6c8f71e00789a07ee4744a774d93)

oh my god fighting game

oh my god this is like the exact degree of realism i've always wished to see in a pokémon game and oh my ggggggggg
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: The Chef on August 20, 2013, 09:56:38 AM
^ That can't be real....can it?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on August 20, 2013, 10:20:37 AM
Does it look fake?

We don't know for sure what it is, but it was in Pokémon Game Show and "Siliconera recently checked on trademarks and found out that 'Pokkén Fighters' and 'Pokkén Tournament' have been filed by The Pokémon Company in the US." Pokkén was filed in Japan as well.

That's good enough for me.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on August 20, 2013, 10:52:23 AM
"Featuring eight playable Pokemon!"
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Toad on August 20, 2013, 11:06:53 AM
Cool! I don't have much experience with fighters that aren't SSB, but this might change that.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Turtlekid1 on August 20, 2013, 11:09:43 AM
"Featuring eight playable Pokemon!"
Including all your favorites: Bidoof, Remoraid, Pelipper, Burmy, Cherrim, Surskit, Ledian, and Mewtwo.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on August 20, 2013, 11:15:48 AM
QUICK, EDIT THAT BEFORE BLACK MAGE GETS HERE
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on August 20, 2013, 11:26:12 AM
I hope players will go into this without any dumb personal ultimatums--"I won't play this if [such and such] doesn't make the roster," "How did [blank] get in over [variable]," etc. My favorites are generally cutesy or goofy-looking before tough and badass, and I can accept that while literally anything is viable, they probably won't be in... some people will hit the jackpot. It happens once in a while. But everyone should go into it ready to make new best friends, so to speak.

Which I think is what people who are gen 1-# purists don't do with the main games.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: ShadowBrain on August 20, 2013, 07:24:07 PM
So... it's real, then! Well, whatever, I'm excited.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Kimimaru on September 04, 2013, 12:58:58 AM
A Pokémon fighting game; I would've never expected that! Hopefully it turns out well.

As for X and Y, I'm not completely sold on them yet until I see more gameplay and how they utilize the 3D world to do things they couldn't with 2D.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on September 04, 2013, 03:13:00 PM
You get a Gen 1 starter at the beginning of the game and their final forms have mega evolutions now.

The transference system from 5 to 6 is a cloud storage thing that costs a subscription fee to use. Part of its purpose is to crack down on illegal and hacked pokémon. Hope Game Freak doesn't make any mistakes with the more obscure reaches of pokémon learnsets, from FRLG tutors and events and such... technically any gen 4 or earlier pokémon can learn a moveset consisting of any combination of gen 4 moves, a gen 5 move, plus any gen 5 move they can learn legitimately, from the Mimic Glitch. But of course that won't be accounted for.

I'm only disappointed at how much attention past generations are getting, again. I think gen 5's strongest point was how recklessly it left everything behind. Almost everything got new toys in the form of hidden abilities, but as far as hype went, it was all new. Not that the new gen 6 pokémon are disappointing me. It's just the opposite. I want to see more of them, and not evolutions and pre-evolutions of old ones. A new pokémon was seen in a screenshot today but it looks very much like a pre-evolved form of Absol... Other than that it's been all about mega evolutions, and so far none of them have been given to gen 5 or 6 pokémon.

So, I'm not going to be using the gen 1 starter, myself. I'm really super-tired of Kanto to the point that even using one of the starters again is more retread of it than I need.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Kimimaru on September 04, 2013, 07:09:43 PM
I agree with that BP. They should really just leave the older Pokémon alone and focus on the new generation. Most of the fun from Generation 5 came from exploring a new area with completely new Pokémon and leaving no trace of previous Pokémon games except for the core mechanics of the series of course.

Are they really giving you a Generation 1 starter at the start? That's ridiculous; what happened to the new starters?!
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on September 04, 2013, 08:39:48 PM
Oh, sorry, I meant you get one of each. I'm not sure if you get them at the same time or if the Kanrto starter is something you can get early on or what. But you get both.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on September 11, 2013, 01:25:38 PM
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpokebeach.com%2Fnews%2F0913%2Fstarter-evos.jpg&hash=fd7b10351599d844400132a9aa50fa16)

Starters' second forms. Chespin evolves into a potato. Fennekin becomes deviantArt. Froakie becomes Thing I Am Liking Very Much.

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpokebeach.com%2Fnews%2F0913%2Fnew-pokemon-corocoro-2.jpg&hash=da237812e4777a23a555a7dd57336190)

A poodle (Kalos is France), something that looks to me has a varying appearance, and the new fossils, a Rock/Dragon T-Rex babby and an Ice-Rock Littlefoot with an ability that turns its Normal moves Ice and makes them stronger. Ice-Type Double Edge sounds scary. The power of Blizzard and accuracy of Ice Beam sounds worth the recoil.

Steel will be nerfed, with its resistances to Ghost and Dark removed. Metagross and Bronzong will take a huge hit from this and Honedge's typing will be a lot less good too. But Steel has been kind of overpowered, defensively, for a long long time.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on September 11, 2013, 02:15:08 PM
AHAHAHAHAHA CHESPIN

Froakie's evo even looks like something you'd draw, BP. Especially its expression.

Serebii says Poodlemon's appearance is indeed customizable, as in you can bring it to a groomer or something and have them change its haircut at will.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: The Chef on September 11, 2013, 02:37:14 PM
Fennekin is apparently destined to be the most deviantART popular forever.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on September 11, 2013, 02:41:28 PM
Funny thing is, Rule 34 of Chespin's evo was made first.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on September 11, 2013, 04:17:34 PM
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmaaaash.net%2Fdrawn%2Ffroakievolve.png&hash=b53b150e628ecea28c1b6926131d04dc)

Thanks for reminding me
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on September 11, 2013, 05:42:42 PM
You know, Chespin's and Froakie's movesets give little to no indication of their eventual second types. The Dark-Chespin theory seems far less likely now, and you'd expect Froakie's evo to have at least one Fighting move if you're in that camp.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on September 25, 2013, 12:43:46 PM
Honedge evolves into Two Honedges

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/923390_409455612509722_1681189407_n.png)

It may be too early to jump to conclusions but I'm bummed it's not a suit of haunted armor. It's so obvious and so good. Making something evolve into more of itself is uninspired gen 1 stuff.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: bobbysq1337 on September 25, 2013, 01:29:34 PM
You know, I also hate when games try to celebrate their past, since it never turns (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Super_Mario_Bros) out (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonic_Generations) well. (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pokémon_FireRed_and_LeafGreen)
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BriGuy92 on September 25, 2013, 01:35:28 PM
Really I doubt that hearkening back to gen 1 is what they're going for. And even if it were, that's not a great way to do it. They just happened to do something that was like gen 1 in a way that wasn't great, as I think BP was saying.

Imagine if, in NSMB, the "can't scroll left mode" wasn't an optional feature, but was part of the game proper. It wouldn't be "so nostalgic" as much as it would be pointless and frustrating.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on September 25, 2013, 04:55:02 PM
There are people on God's earth who didn't enjoy FRLG? Also,

>inb4 third stage is three swords
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: ShadowBrain on September 26, 2013, 07:18:12 AM
Thing evolved into... More of Thing!
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on September 28, 2013, 11:16:38 AM
Quote from: Bulbapedia
The item Exp. Share will revert to Exp. All as in Generation I, where when one Pokémon holding this item participates in battle, all other Pokémon in the team receive experience as well. Unlike in Generation I, the experience is not split but rather received by all Pokémon. This means that the participating Pokémon receive 100% experience, while non-participating Pokémon receive 50% experience.

Not sure what to think of this.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Tavros on September 28, 2013, 05:54:43 PM
YESSSS TRAINING MAGIKARP TEAMS WILL BE EXTREMELY EASY
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on September 28, 2013, 06:07:04 PM
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pokelol.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F10%2Fpokemon_fishermen_by_tayzonrai.png&hash=ab52306cccfeff5827062310c24050d7)
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on September 28, 2013, 08:18:47 PM
Every game has one. Except in gen 5.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: jdaster64 on September 28, 2013, 08:40:14 PM
(Bulbapedia EXP. All note) Not sure what to think of this.
(Disregard what I had in my post before.) Seems rather pointless; I never had much issue keeping my team at similar levels.  EXP. Share was better at raising a single low-leveled Pokémon up anyway.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on September 28, 2013, 09:20:46 PM
At least our HM slaves will be powerful.

Source, by the way (http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Nintendo_Dream_interview_reveals_new_mechanic_changes)
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on October 01, 2013, 12:58:29 AM
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Type_chart

How do you all feel about Fairy's weaknesses and resistances? I'm quite pleased with its balancing for the most part, especially how it trumps the borderline-overpowered Fighting type both offensively and defensively. On the other hand, I feel Dark's newfound ability to hit Steel for neutral damage is almost negated by its weakness to Fairy.

Something entirely different I wish they'd done was remove one type's weakness to Rock. The fact that a Pokemon of all 18 types would take double damage from Rock moves rubs me the wrong way. Ice could always do with one less weakness.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on October 01, 2013, 05:35:18 PM
http://instagram.com/kosthedin

Someone has the game.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on October 02, 2013, 04:54:17 PM
Chespin's final evolution looks like a cross between Bowser and Dr. Eggman, channeled through a Mega Man boss. Also,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAdGv89e0sE
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BriGuy92 on October 02, 2013, 07:35:54 PM
<video>

oh.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: jdaster64 on October 02, 2013, 08:12:47 PM
^. Also, Chespin's final evo looks pretty satisfying, even if its typing is garbage compared to the other two (especially considering Froakie's evos can apparently learn Aerial Ace and Extrasensory.)  Still not sure whether to pick Chespin or Fennekin.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on October 02, 2013, 08:24:03 PM
I don't like anything about Froakie's final form

this is the worst hype letdown for me personally since the first time I played viewtiful joe: red hot rumble expecting a fighting game, i am legit sad about it you don't even know
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on October 02, 2013, 09:01:40 PM
I'd still call it the least of three evos.

Still no evolution for Farfetch'd ;~;
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on October 03, 2013, 07:32:40 PM
PO-KEY-MON
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on October 03, 2013, 07:40:00 PM
I drew (http://smaaaash.net/drawn/isitreal.png) it (http://smaaaash.net/drawn/tongueseverywhere.png) a couple times in a conscious effort to have it grow on me and it seems to have worked
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on October 05, 2013, 10:59:45 PM
New psuedo-legendary is the most ugoo~ since Dragonite.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on October 06, 2013, 06:49:03 PM
.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on October 08, 2013, 07:11:48 PM
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia-cerulean.cursecdn.com%2Fattachments%2Fthumbnails%2F5%2F398%2F530%2F530%2Fswirlix_battle_1.jpg&hash=0c8037ba4d16a6c5ce13803ce370734b)
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FJvEaFeo.jpg&hash=d01d03fe1039303fc42246a8cf321f59)
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Tavros on October 08, 2013, 07:46:53 PM
RANDOM DOG Appeared
RANDOM DOG used DERP
RANDOM DOG is CONFUSED
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: bobbysq1337 on October 09, 2013, 02:11:30 PM
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FRAsDpkM.jpg&hash=12d1d93e5d2841402bdea472ff7014b3)
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Post by: The Chef on October 09, 2013, 03:32:42 PM
...I don't get it.
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Post by: Weegee on October 09, 2013, 04:02:15 PM
"My Pokemon-hating roommate tries to name the Original 151." (http://imgur.com/r/gaming/RAsDpkM)
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Toad on October 09, 2013, 07:51:44 PM
I call shenanigans. Blastoise was known as Bowser in one of these.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Godot on October 10, 2013, 11:50:48 AM
That picture reminds me a lot of this:

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgur.com%2F6e0dE.jpg&hash=4407ea6f26b74ca47db8127f9d13d096)
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Lizard Dude on October 10, 2013, 05:39:54 PM
I call shenanigans for a different reason: No "Pokémon-hating" person would get so many correct.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on October 10, 2013, 05:44:07 PM
Living with someone who does play the games, exposure from Smash Bros. and the Internet in general make it plausible I think. I'd go so far to say it's interesting to see this, and which ones stand out to non-players.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on October 12, 2013, 12:34:31 PM
So, who else belongs to the Y master race?
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Post by: Bigluigifan1.0 on October 12, 2013, 03:48:13 PM
I have X, but my brother picked up Y. I picked the female protagonist because I wanted to see how differently it would play out (because my brother picked the male one to begin with). That so-called "love scene" while they watch fireworks is much funnier this way.

I picked Froakie/Squirtle and got my Torchic. Very nice game, although I was taken slightly aback when I realized that not everything was able to be viewed in 3D; did they do this for performance?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on October 12, 2013, 04:12:08 PM
Super Training is ridiculous. To think you can give your starter all 510 EVs before setting foot in a patch of grass. I maxed out Froakie's EVs just trying to unlock all the regimens. His spread isn't ideal, but it's a hell of a lot better than what past starters end up with.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on October 12, 2013, 10:42:09 PM
I haven't used it. Making PvP-viable Pokémon  is so easy now that I'm at ease just going through PvE with the reckless abandon I had when I was a kid who knew no better. No plans for my party other than that my Froakie won't be leaving it and I want a Swirlix on it. I'm unspoiled for most Pokémon not officially revealed before launch (although I don't think I've encountered any such yet). I made sure to get a Torchic with an acceptable nature from the event, though.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: jdaster64 on October 13, 2013, 07:08:23 PM
Huh, I didn't even know you could reset for a better-natured Torchic.  At least I got +ATK, -DEF on my first try.  Also, I think you can breed hidden abilities down from the male now anyway, so it's a moot point.

My team's shaping up to be a lot like my gen-IV team, although my Pancham & Honedge have yet to quite catch up with the rest of my team in level, if not usefulness.  Also, X &Y's item management is amazing; I love being able to move the Amulet Coin around without leaving the Pokémon summary screen!  That, auto-sorting, and the multiple-registered-items system are all amazing.  Then again, if those changes were made in gen-V, I wouldn't know.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on October 13, 2013, 08:14:22 PM
I haven't heard about being able to pass down a male's hidden ability. Seeing as the Torchic you get can't be female, I doubt it. They want to keep Speed Boost Torchic unique to those who downloaded it.

EDIT: OH MY GOODNESS ADAMANT TORCHIC ON MY FIRST TRY
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: jdaster64 on October 13, 2013, 11:17:37 PM
I haven't heard about being able to pass down a male's hidden ability. Seeing as the Torchic you get can't be female, I doubt it. They want to keep Speed Boost Torchic unique to those who downloaded it.

I'd consider this (http://projectpokemon.org/forums/showthread.php?32832-Speed-boost-torchic&p=173603) proof to the contrary.  Although that might have required a Ditto.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on October 14, 2013, 12:52:53 AM
Even with Ditto, that didn't used to be possible. Huh.

Why aren't any of you showing up as my friends ;~;
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Bigluigifan1.0 on October 14, 2013, 09:20:32 AM
I don't know! I don't think I understand how to connect our games together. I found my brother no problem, but we never use Wi-Fi... and he's always around here.

Also, we should totally get some people together for a 4 player battle sometime.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on October 14, 2013, 10:33:42 AM
I hadn't registered you yet, sorry.

Anyone on your friends list shows up on the PSS when you're online at the same time (don't forget to hit the blue button). You can trade and battle from anywhere in the game, apparently.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Lizard Dude on October 16, 2013, 05:04:13 PM
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F8RgBOwO.png&hash=ed37683b8b8bbede1fbd5133edc537f4)
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Bigluigifan1.0 on October 16, 2013, 05:49:57 PM
Fun With Pokemon Names:

"Little girl forgot Play Nice!" (Used Pikachu for this)

"Sending My name to Shuana!"

I love this game.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: bobbysq1337 on October 16, 2013, 06:11:46 PM
"Oh [dukar] he"
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on October 17, 2013, 12:34:32 PM
Shall we anticipate a lean, muscular Mega Evolution for Snorlax come Z version?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on October 17, 2013, 02:48:29 PM
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F51RNHzK.jpg&hash=d24052af95a923f6496798af014f0232)

Now I've got six unscripted shinies. Most of their stats are awful though. This one was caught in BigLuigiFan's Friend Safari and therefore has two IVs of 31: in Attack and Defense. Physical and defensive are two things Heliolisk is not.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on October 17, 2013, 05:03:07 PM
Still haven't encountered a non-staged shiny since that Goldeen in Crystal. I hope all your future shinies are lime-green and have poor natures, *******.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Bigluigifan1.0 on October 17, 2013, 06:07:49 PM
I haven't encountered any unscripted ones ever, haha.

That's cool, either way. I haven't really been keeping up with the Friend Safari much, although I've played through it at least once and gotten a couple of things from my brother's. Most of my time has been spent breeding my Greninja with a bunch of my other Pokemon lately; there's a bunch of little Froakies sitting in a box with me now. I got tried Wonder Trade with one of them today and got... a Pidgey. I did another and got a Delibird. If anyone wants to trade a level one Froakie for something, I'm looking for a Bulbasaur. I put that in the GTS, but I'm also not really holding my breath on it.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on October 17, 2013, 08:51:07 PM
I have heard that tipping NPCs boosts the shiny encounter rate. I don't know by how much or for how long, but there are enough accounts of it happening that it's likely not just coincidence. I hadn't tipped anyone recently, but.

Supposedly the Friend Safari has a boosted encounter ratio for shinies as well.

I got a Protean Froakie on GTS in exchange for my Xerneas and once I get to breeding for a good one I will gladly share the others. If you haven't seen one in the Battle Maison let me break it down: Protean changes the wielder's type to match the move it's about to use. As in, before it uses it. As in, every attack a Protean Froakie uses will be STAB. AS IN A PROTEAN FROAKIE'S ATTACK AND SPECIAL ATTACK STATS MAY AS WELL BE PERMANENTLY 150% THE LISTED NUMBER WITHOUT AN ITEM'S HELP. And it's got the speed stat to use it. If you get a Protean Froakie I hatch, you bet your breakfast it's gonna be Timid.

If that makes Greninja good enough to be banned to Ubers and makes Frogadier good enough to use in at least RU... well, I do like Greninja, I got over my initial dislike of it quickly, but I like Frogadier even more... but don't take my speculation as being worth anything. All I can really say is that Protean is an obscenely good ability.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on October 17, 2013, 10:04:38 PM
I'd very much appreciate one.

Can males pass down their hidden ability when bred with a Ditto?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on October 17, 2013, 10:51:46 PM
They can now, yes. Confirmed day 1 via the event Torchic. Lucky thing. This Froakie is male.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on October 17, 2013, 11:35:16 PM
Welp, just got Protean Froakie from someone else. Can't wait to try 'er out. Thanks, though.

Here's a map.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on October 18, 2013, 03:56:59 AM
I now have lots of Timid Protean Froakies, mostly with IVs of 31 in SpAtk. I took the best six that had 31s in SpAtk and Speed, started a flat battle to check their stats at level 50, and picked the best one.

Then this passerby from Japan starts a trade with me. I immediately offer one of the Froakies, and up shows a shiny Mienfoo. But abilities and natures don't show up on the trade preview. He took it back. I ended up trading the Froakie for his Flabébé anyway because I'm not a jerk.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: bobbysq1337 on October 18, 2013, 05:33:05 AM
Someone updated the legendary chart

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FxVWpnLF.png&hash=ad769aa76f57462c75a333ce3ee27c35)
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on October 18, 2013, 05:06:57 PM
Ouch.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: jdaster64 on October 18, 2013, 08:12:01 PM
After it being on the GTS for upwards of 24 hours, I finally got someone to trade me a Yveltal for my lvl. 50 Goodra + Luck Incense + Pokérus.  Awesomeness.  Also, I got my first shiny; a Vanillite in a horde battle.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Godot on October 18, 2013, 09:21:27 PM
I am going to be so late to the pokemon party. I'll post about this all excitedly in like 8 months when no one cares anymore.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Turtlekid1 on October 19, 2013, 09:00:21 AM
As someone who is tempted to get this now but savvy enough to wait until "Z" or at least a price drop, ^ this.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on October 19, 2013, 10:50:14 AM
But are you (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_Black_and_White_Versions_2)
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Turtlekid1 on October 19, 2013, 05:07:40 PM
That's what's throwing me off.  I can't be sure, but B2&W2 weren't terribly well-received, if I remember correctly, making me think they might default back to just one "third" version.

Even if not, the worst case scenario is that waiting a while will result in a price drop.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on October 19, 2013, 05:18:13 PM
W2 was possibly my favourite Pokemon game to date. It smoothed out most of its predecessor's flaws, and quite possibly added more content to its respective generation than Crystal, Emerald, or Platinun did.

Not sure whether to import all my old 'mons in December, or wait until Z. Can the Pokemon Bank be used to transfer Pokemon between sixth-gen games, or just to import them from Gen V?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: bobbysq1337 on October 20, 2013, 12:44:00 AM
I think they'll make a Z since they are setting themselves up for it by using X and Y instead of Y and Z. They also have the Z legendary already and I don't recall a Grey legendary.

Edit: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Tao_trio oops
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on October 22, 2013, 03:21:05 AM
I'm realizing it'd actually be feasible to breed for FIVE IVs of 31. Friend Safari, find three pokémon with different 31s only overlapping once at most (leaving the Attack stat you won't be using), breed two together with the Destiny Knot (now makes the parent pokémon pass down 5 IVs instead of two) until you get something with all four, and then breed that with the other until you wind up with five.

I wonder if Game Freak continually makes breeding easier not even generation after generation but game after game to try and bring the competitive scene back to the real games instead of the simulators.

I need to meet somebody with Poliwhirl in their FS. Or breed a Quagsire with the IVs I want for one. I can't get Drizzle until December though, unless I can find a Swift Swim Poliwag in a horde.


On another note I am having awful luck discovering egg moves for Hawlucha. It can't get the elemental punches, Close Combat, Bullet Punch, Mach Punch, Wide Guard, Endure... I don't think Superpower or Circle Throw would be worth trying for...
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on October 23, 2013, 08:59:41 PM
I'm reluctant to train any Pokemon now, lest they be found to have important egg moves. On a related note, be wary of your moves when Ditto-hunting:

>Wild Ditto appeared!
>Go! Ralts!
>Ditto's Imposter transformed it into Ralts!
>Wild Ralts used Teleport!
>Wild Ralts fled from the battle!
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: jdaster64 on October 23, 2013, 10:59:17 PM
So apparently according to Serebii, you can get Ditto in the Friend Safari.  Just the fact you can get them with two perfect IVs + Synchronized nature should make kick-starting a breeding chain a zillion times easier in general.

Also, I'm still hoping Dedenne can get a special Fairy-type egg move; his typing is pretty good, but Play Rough with a mere base 58 Attack hardly counts as an adequate coverage move.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on October 23, 2013, 11:17:55 PM
I got my nearly-perfect Politoed. She could only be better if her Attack IV were 0 (minimize damage from confusion and Foul Play), or if this were gen 5 and Drizzle rain were still endless.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on October 24, 2013, 01:02:12 PM
Weegee your friend safari is Ghost, with Pumpkaboo, Lampent and Spiritomb.

I should have expected you to have a class A friend zone like this!
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on October 24, 2013, 06:08:18 PM
Why thank y--

...*******.

If a male Pokemon is bred with a Ditto, will the offspring be in the same type of ball as the Ditto?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: jdaster64 on October 25, 2013, 08:56:51 PM
Just finished the main game and tried out the Friend Safari; the only friend I've added didn't have anything terribly interesting, unfortunately (Klang & Magneton).  Seems like a really neat idea if the FCs result in better distributions, though.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on October 25, 2013, 10:02:58 PM
I've been collecting Imposter Dittos, if anyone besides BP wants one.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: jdaster64 on October 26, 2013, 11:12:47 PM
Got some FC's on GameFAQs, which randomly happened to include a Friend Safari with Frogadier and one with Ditto.  Time to breed some actually good team members...

Also, apparently my Safari has Lampent, Pumpkaboo, and Drifblim, according to someone on GameFAQs.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on October 28, 2013, 01:02:23 AM
Why do you guys think people ask for impossible/unobtainable Pokemon on the GTS? Does it amuse them to know they're clogging up the system by requesting a level-9-or-under Ampharos or whatever?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: WarpRattler on October 28, 2013, 02:46:00 AM
#tmk's resident Pokémon expert has told us a couple of times about people who were abusing impossible GTS options in Japanese Diamond and Pearl to show off things like hacked shinies. Back then, people were picking level-10-and-under Azelf, because it was the quickest impossible option; it sounds like they're doing the same thing here, though obviously not with hacked stuff.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on October 28, 2013, 01:03:40 PM
That's imaginable, but it's even done with completely unremarkable Pokemon. I'm not sure what's worse: Putting up a Skrelp in exchange for Xerneas because you think a Skrelp is worth showing off to the world, or because you're so entitled to think that your common derpmon is worth someone else's one-of-a-kind legendary.

ALSO

Which do you most want to see?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on October 28, 2013, 11:26:53 PM
why can't you people just use imgur like normal
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: The Chef on October 29, 2013, 12:28:08 AM
Are those type combos that have't even been used to date, or type combos that just aren't used in Gen 6?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on October 29, 2013, 02:07:01 AM
Former. Although, it's possible others that aren't available in XY yet have had type changes, including unrevealed legendaries. There's no way of knowing...


...or, there is. There are scumbags already working on ways to cheat. At least playing legitimately will still yield you pokémon that can contend with ones created by cheaters, but trading and shinies have been actually valuable and good for all of two weeks and it's going to suck to see that go. I hope Nintendo and Game Freak can stay on top of things somehow...
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Toad on October 29, 2013, 10:45:53 AM
Wouldn't normal/other type just be other type?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: LG97 on October 29, 2013, 12:24:16 PM
Well practically i just played Pokémon  Crystal (GBA),  Platinum, Soul Silver, White (the first one) and I´m still liking Pokémon, ¿what about you guys?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on October 29, 2013, 01:15:39 PM
Normal is immune to Ghost, weak to Fighting. Ghost immunity isn't bad, especially for Girafarig who would otherwise be weak to it. Immunities are always good for switching in damage-free. You also get STAB for normal moves... but the only real reason to use normal attack moves is if you have no other STAB.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: The Chef on October 29, 2013, 01:45:02 PM
I have some ideas about those type combos.

Poison/Fire = Fire-breathing/flaming snake.
Poison/Electric = Something radioactive.
Poison/Rock = Scorpion? Or perhaps some sort of boulder covered in poisonous muck?
Poison/Steel = Barrel of toxic waste.
Poison/Normal = New kind of rat Pokémon.
Ghost/Rock = Tombstone.
Normal/Ghost = Zombie.
Ice/Bug = This thing. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqghEL5FxXE)
Ice/Fire = Something like Trinexx (http://zeldawiki.org/Trinexx)
Ice/Fighting = Snowman.
Bug/Psychic = Preying mantis. (http://www.tu-pc.com/fondos/media/3109.JPG)
Bug/Dragon = Something like Dogadon. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIRjo4wCA58)
Bug/Dark = Black widow spider.
Fighting/Ghost = Samurai ghost.
Fighting/Dragon = Something to do with Bruce Lee. Haw haw haw.
Fire/Water = Something like Godzilla.
Fire/Grass = Chili pepper.
Dragon/Grass = Some sort of lizard, like a skink or a gecko.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on October 29, 2013, 05:35:14 PM
Preying mantis. (http://www.tu-pc.com/fondos/media/3109.JPG)

Was that pun intentional?

Anyway, I'm thinking Bug/Fairy could either be a traditional humanoid fairy with butterfly wings, or an alternate Scyther evo (http://www.origamicupcake.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/C_KAT_G-orchid-mantis.jpg).
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Captain Jim on October 29, 2013, 08:21:54 PM
Couple ideas here.

Ice/Fighting - A moose sorta thing (http://i.imgur.com/GdgWSGt.png), with shades of a mountain goat. A highly competitive creature that often has to fight with other of if its kind for resources in the harsh climate it lives in.

Normal/Steel - This thing (http://i.imgur.com/1ycmxtT.png). I actually designed it when gen 3 was new and GameFreak still hasn't given it to me. C'mon guys.

Grass/Fire - Coconut Soldier (http://i.imgur.com/w2wOjLl.png). A plant creature that hides an internal fire that it spits out of its cannon-like mouth to attack. Also, exploding coconut grenades.

Ghost/Normal - Opossum (http://i.imgur.com/0vS2hUi.png). Since, y'know, opossums play dead.

Ideas I can't be bothered to doodle up include

Bug/Dragon - One of those long asian-style dragons but with a bunch of centipede legs.

Dragon/Grass - Snapdragon. C'mon, guys

Electric/Grass - Potato battery.

Poison/Rock - A gila monster, with the beaded scales being more like black and orange cobblestone.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on October 29, 2013, 08:27:33 PM
Poison/Electric: A battery. It could have a signature move called Battery Acid, either poison-type and paralyzes or electric-type and poisons. It would start as a cutesy living AA and become a car battery with jumper cable tentacles.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on October 29, 2013, 10:04:17 PM
I'm digging that possum concept, CJ. Maybe its tail could fade into a ghostly, ethereal wisp.

Someone suggested a fire-breathing pepper for Grass/Fire.

Ghost/Fighting and Ghost/Rock made me think of Broozers and Bouldergeist.

Ice/Fighting must be a hockey player called Capuck.

Ooh, we discuss this in the chat some of the times. one of the most popular ideas is a Jack-O-Lantern. It'd be a Grass/Ghost type.
I once came up with a Ghost/Steel type. It started as a floating sword, then evolved into a suit of armor.
On that note, a sand dollar Pokemon. It could be a Magikarp-type thing and evolve into... er, a mussel? A Eggecute-esque barnacle Pokemon? Hey, I live in the Pacific Northwest--cut me some slack.
-Kingdra's well-camoflauged counterpart, the leafy sea dragon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leafy_sea_dragon).

Heh.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: CrossEyed7 on October 29, 2013, 10:57:46 PM
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.bulbagarden.net%2Fupload%2F8%2F8a%2F711Gourgeist_Dream.png&hash=bdf090a77d34f439247c0810dcc0064c) (https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fhrwiki.org%2Fw%2Fimages%2Fthumb%2F6%2F6a%2FNewestMarzipan.png%2F200px-NewestMarzipan.png&hash=b3b2eef0ab7cc7bc18932bc191e94fa6)
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on October 29, 2013, 11:54:25 PM
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Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on October 29, 2013, 11:59:58 PM
Most of the time I get something that's obviously an extra from someone's breeding session. Level 1, good nature, maybe a 31, maybe the wrong ability. I do that too, but I infect them with Pokérus first.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on October 30, 2013, 08:44:15 PM
Surprised ShadowBrain hasn't said anything about Diantha's resemblance to a certain real-world actress.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: jdaster64 on October 30, 2013, 09:10:42 PM
Most of the time I get something that's obviously an extra from someone's breeding session. Level 1, good nature, maybe a 31, maybe the wrong ability. I do that too, but I infect them with Pokérus first.

Speaking of, I finally got myself a 31/31/x/31/31/31 Adamant Starly; if anyone wants one with any four of those perfect IV's, I have about a dozen extras, all of them Adamant.  Man, I love how much easier this is with the Destiny Knot, and I'm certainly looking forward to battling with her once I get her EV's and moveset solidified.

EDIT: Random 31/x/31/31/31/28-30 Ditto catch. :)
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Bigluigifan1.0 on November 02, 2013, 08:11:00 AM
I tend to be one of those people that trade out breeding session Pokemon, but I like throwing around pretty decent ones too (I have a Ralts with Trace if anyone wants it).

I kinda hate the high-tier deal with the GTS and Legendaries; I get that they're rare and they want another for the one they have, but I was unhappy to lose my prize Xerneas (named Lakepond) in the mix. The only shinies I have in this game are from GTS trades, because I've been throwing around the Legendary birds like... birdseed (Although I have Articuno and Zapdos right now). Someone gave my a German shiny Charizard, so that was pretty cool.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on November 02, 2013, 08:47:39 AM
Me too but I'm saving them for Wonder Trade Wednesday now. This week I'll have Tympoles, all infected with Pokérus, all Modest, most with Earth Power, about half with Swift Swim, many with 2-4 31s.

Sometimes while I'm infecting each and every one of them with pokérus I think "this isn't good enough... this uncommon pokémon, whose nature and IVs are desirable for breeding purposes, has Hydration, which becomes Poison Touch, that won't do a special-attacking Seismitoad any good." I must work harder for my useless Japanese Flabébés, clearly
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Bigluigifan1.0 on November 02, 2013, 12:58:20 PM
haha, I got Pokerus on a Pokemon once and it infected my ENTIRE party; now I have to overhaul my whole party if I don't want something else to get infected.

Lately, I've been trying to obtain all the Pokemon in the Central Kalos Pokedex; I've "completed" it, but I want to see if Sycamore gives you anything for being a collecting maniac (speaking of them, where ARE they?). In total, I have three shinies: Hopip, Charizard and Relicanth. I want to evolve the Hopip and possibly trade it out later when I know what I want... or maybe I should hold onto them until December 27th, when the Pokemon Bank floods the GTS?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on November 02, 2013, 01:04:24 PM
Don't want something else infected? Why wouldn't you?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Bigluigifan1.0 on November 02, 2013, 01:43:01 PM
Eh, I dunno. To be honest, that's not a dilemma I'm facing; I just thought it was funny that it actually spread the way it did. This was the first time I've ever had a Pokemon of mine infected, actually. I do know that it's beneficial to the growth of Pokemon, so don't get me wrong; I know it's not bad or anything.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Ultima Shadow on November 04, 2013, 07:56:29 AM
I'm without a 3DS and so can't join in the Pokefun, but I'm receiving live updates from one of my friends over Facebook, like such:



Friend: > waltzing around on pikamans
Friend: > party coming together nicely
Friend: > through tall grass
Friend: > battle scene and music plays
Friend: > Wild WOBUFFET appeared!
Friend: > Go! WOBUFFET!
Friend: > Switch out
Me: Nope
Me: I wish I could have sympathy for you
Me: But frankly
Friend: > Enemy WOBUFFET's SHADOW TAG prevents escape
Me: You're using Wobba
Friend: I HAD TO USE ALL THE PP IN ALL MY MOVES TO GET TO STRUGGLE
Me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmJ4pKXNAPM
Friend: I WAS BATTLING THAT LEVEL 15 COOT FOR HALF A FORKING HOUR
Friend: ahahaha
Friend: it took so long
Me: I'm glad
Friend: so so so long
Me: Karma, thy name is Wobbuffet
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: ShadowBrain on November 04, 2013, 09:42:56 AM
Surprised ShadowBrain hasn't said anything about Diantha's resemblance to a certain real-world actress.
Yeah, gotta be honest, this is the most I've ever been out of the loop on a Pokemon game... law school's the wrong time to start on one of those is all I can say.

But yeah, I Googled her and...
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on November 04, 2013, 02:25:25 PM
Quote from: Bulbapedia
Similarly, as of Generation IV, if two Pokémon with Shadow Tag face one another, both may switch out at any time.

Hmm.

Anyway, does anyone here live in a region that has "modern" pattern Vivillon (http://www.serebii.net/xy/pokemon/666-mo.png)? I'm looking for a timid-natured Compoundeyes Scatterbug with 31 IVs in HP, Special Attack, and Speed. I could breed an equivalent polar (http://www.serebii.net/xy/pokemon/666-p.png) one, or offer something else entirely.

Also, this is fantastic. (http://24.media.tumblr.com/d5d6e477132e63c5c6e546ae6aa8acdd/tumblr_mvip54nmuA1srooijo1_1280.jpg) [Spoilers if you haven't reached the credits]
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on November 04, 2013, 04:38:11 PM
Thing I've realized: A Ghost move and a Fairy move on the same set provides really good coverage. The only things I can think of that don't take at least neutral damage from one or the other are Litleo and Pyroar. Shadowgleam is the new Boltbeam. I'm trying the classic Quick Feet +Toxic Orb Ursaring with Play Rough and Shadow Claw as the coverage moves.

But he just got wrecked on Battle Spot by a Mewtwo Y. Owned by a player named AL QUEIDA. whose message was ALLAAAAAAAAAAH. I ended that battle quickly, an acquaintance wanted to fight me and I thought that'd be a little more worth my time and less uncomfortable.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: jdaster64 on November 04, 2013, 05:02:04 PM
Hmm.

Anyway, does anyone here live in a region that has "modern" pattern Vivillon (http://www.serebii.net/xy/pokemon/666-mo.png)? I'm looking for a timid-natured Compoundeyes Scatterbug with 31 IVs in HP, Special Attack, and Speed. I could breed an equivalent polar (http://www.serebii.net/xy/pokemon/666-p.png) one, or offer something else entirely.
I have a 31/31/x/31/x/31 Timid Scatterbug w/Compoundeyes for you whenever you want it; I'll take whatever in return.  Will it evolve into a Modern Vivillon on your system if it would on mine, or do I need to evolve it for you?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on November 04, 2013, 08:34:39 PM
Ready whenever you are.

EDIT: Thanks so much!

Will it evolve into a Modern Vivillon on your system if it would on mine, or do I need to evolve it for you?

The Scatterbug I got via Wonder Trade a while ago evolved into Tundra (as opposed to Polar), so it should be good.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: jdaster64 on November 04, 2013, 08:45:32 PM
No problem, and yeah, I read that all that matters is the pre-evo's location of origin (although breeding sets that location as the region the egg was created in, rather than being passed down from the parents).

On a side note, I love it when random IVs, like the maxed Attack on your Vivillon, decide to persist through breeding even when they're completely unnecessary.  I got five 31/31/31/31/31/x Chespins yesterday while trying to get a 31/31/31/x/31/31.  I ended up keeping one that had IVs of 31/31/31/31/31/28; when I'm not investing any EVs in Speed, it hardly seems worth it to throw away a perfect IV for three extra points, even if I don't end up using SAtk at all.

Also, on another tangent, I love the new Berry Field mechanics; over the course of two days, I turned 3 Lum and 2 Sitrus Berries into 24 Lum, 15 Sitrus, and 3 Tamato Berries with minimal effort.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on November 04, 2013, 10:40:07 PM
The Vivillon pattern I want most is Ocean (http://www.serebii.net/xy/pokemon/666-o.png), but unless one of you has a cousin in Hawaii, I'm more than content with Modern, especially with such ideal IVs.

Which Megas have y'all been using? Kangaskhan is nifty, but the prediction for Sucker Punch is nearly impossible against computers. Gardevoir is really unremarkable. Nothing new needs to be said of Blaziken. I've been meaning to train a Medicham now that it has an aesthetically bearable form, but there are so many egg moves for it come December.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on November 04, 2013, 10:52:30 PM
I'm only particularly interested in Kangaskhan, Alakazam, and especially Ampharos. But so far I've only bred and trained non-megable pokes.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on November 05, 2013, 10:24:46 PM
I can't see Megampharos being an apex threat competitively, but that hair is fabulous.

Speaking of which...
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on November 06, 2013, 12:18:47 AM
Some of them are doomed to Ubers. When the dust settles, the absence of Gengar, Blaziken and others should make Ampharos more desirable...
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: jdaster64 on November 06, 2013, 08:34:59 AM
Well, perhaps thankfully for competitive battlers, it appears the Hidden Power type calculation remains unchanged from previous generation, since my perfect-IV's Honedge has a Dark-type HP, and most of the rest of my 5-IV Pokémon have Dragon or Ice.  I guess that means Fairy-type HP isn't a thing, then.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on November 06, 2013, 03:51:47 PM
Other people say their Pokemon have HP Fairy, so it must exist.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on November 06, 2013, 03:55:30 PM
Bulbapedia claims it doesn't.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on November 07, 2013, 05:58:22 PM
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmaaaash.net%2Fdrawn%2Fnewfavorites.jpg&hash=5a86f4709bb0ee0813ec39439ab8d8d6)

New one. Some new to the grid aren't new to the games... It's really hard to say whether it's Chingling or Reuniclus for Psychic... Bastiodon is sure though. I hadn't taken a good look at one and noticed its face was a castle until after the last one, I guess.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on November 07, 2013, 06:18:51 PM
I don't think you have enough frogs there, BP.

its face was a castle

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

I spent like half an hour adding a Fairy-type box to this template.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on November 07, 2013, 08:30:47 PM
X has really blurred the lines between generations for me... or maybe there are finally just so many pokémon that the lines are collapsing all at once. I mean I could still tell you in an instant which one any pokémon came from, but it's not as conscious anymore, and so suddenly. I guess it could be comparable to thinking about what color each one is. You're not going to forget what green is, but "Maractus is green" isn't near the surface of your thoughts at all.

Maybe when genwunners go on about how these new pokémon don't look like pokémon, they mean the new ones' eyes all look too different from each other. I mean, l (http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/d/da/100Voltorb.png)o (http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/b/b8/128Tauros.png)o (http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/c/c6/034Nidoking.png)k (http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/9/9a/095Onix.png) a (http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/7/71/127Pinsir.png)t (http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/6/62/093Haunter.png) t (http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/b/ba/123Scyther.png)h (http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/7/75/075Graveler.png)i (http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/a/a0/022Fearow.png)s (http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/9/97/064Kadabra.png)
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Kuromatsu on November 08, 2013, 12:24:56 AM
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F0NSSLFI.png&hash=6e7a516e89a3be723251a1ff32da3bf2)
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on November 08, 2013, 01:20:18 AM
d-dat ass.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on November 08, 2013, 12:37:25 PM
"What's wrong, Trainer-kun?

Could it be you're...
craivng my McSnivies?"

EDIT:
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on November 09, 2013, 05:05:25 PM
I'm breeding a xx/31/31/31/31/31 adamant female Huge Power Bunnelby holding an everstone with a 31/31/31/xx/31/31 adamant male Pickup Bunnelby holding a destiny knot.

I lead my party with Talonflame, ride back and forth until I get five eggs, fly to Prism Tower, use Hatching Power Lv. 3, go in circles until they all hatch, fly to Kiloude City, have the guy tell me that none of them have the right IV spread or ability, box or release them depending on quality, and repeat.

Been at this for three days. Is breeding supposed to take this long? Am I doing something wrong?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: jdaster64 on November 09, 2013, 08:17:52 PM
If you're going for perfect IVs, you've got a ~1/96 chance with those, not counting the ability passdown chance.  Also, I totally forgot about those favorite Pokémon by type memes, I need to sketch one up myself.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on November 09, 2013, 09:12:10 PM
I'm going for 31/31/31/xx/31/31 and the right ability. I actually bred a 31/31/31/31/31/31, but of course it was female and had Pickup so I couldn't use it for breeding Huge Power offspring.

UPDATE: Finally got it, and have ~15 31x5 Bunnelby left over. I'll take any breeding leftovers in exchange.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on November 09, 2013, 11:25:20 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03Vz-X9boss

MARY
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on November 09, 2013, 11:38:08 PM
/me cringed and couldn't win
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: jdaster64 on November 10, 2013, 11:28:56 PM
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi276.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fkk21%2Fjdaster64%2F2013-11_favorite_pokemon_grid.png&hash=db037d2e869b928a0cc0f62448bd6d66)
Finally finished this; I'd never sketched the vast majority of these guys before, so it was pretty fun to try them out.  Close seconds included Quilava, Chespin, Goomy, and Ditto.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BriGuy92 on November 11, 2013, 02:06:12 PM
MARY
I couldn't even watch half of that.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on November 11, 2013, 03:04:56 PM
evvyboddy loves furret

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffc06.deviantart.net%2Ffs71%2Fi%2F2010%2F357%2F1%2F6%2Ffurret_paperchild_by_camarlengo-d35iodi.jpg&hash=42e66b0e8dc5da0733e1700b7a188966)
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Kuromatsu on November 11, 2013, 05:22:23 PM
I, for one, approve of our new Furret overlords.

Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on November 13, 2013, 12:03:11 AM
A bit of a stretch, but does anyone have a white-flower Flabebe/Floette with its hidden ability, Symbiosis? Or a Friend Safari containing them?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: bobbysq1337 on November 15, 2013, 07:15:02 PM
MARY
Is there something i'm missing? I laughed like crazy the whole video.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on November 15, 2013, 08:24:56 PM
Is there something i'm missing?

A soul. The ability to cringe is what separates us from the animals.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Markio on November 15, 2013, 08:27:23 PM
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vgcats.com%2Fsuper%2Fimages%2F080612.gif&hash=495aaaa8dbf6313845f68009fe3acd02)
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on November 17, 2013, 05:58:46 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuGP5FSSq5I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsbaQTbtKSo

MORE CRINGE, BABY
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on November 17, 2013, 08:38:21 PM
In the pokémon 4 kid's defense the Johto wild encounter bgm is like my all-time favorite battle theme too. Followed by PWT finals, BW1 rivals, Unova Elite Four, Plasma... Gen 4 Frontier Brains...
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: bobbysq1337 on November 17, 2013, 09:22:04 PM
Lost to the first one 5 seconds in, second one was just confusing.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BriGuy92 on November 18, 2013, 09:57:36 PM
MARY

It's been removed from Youtube. I'm sad now.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on November 18, 2013, 10:47:56 PM
The internet can only handle so much cringe.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on November 20, 2013, 11:05:04 AM
I leveled five pokémon with Pickup to level 81 or higher, high enough that Leftovers can be picked up. I was running around in the grass on route 7 to trigger Pickup before realizing "With my luck, I'm gonna find a shiny before I find Leftovers. And Volbeat and Illumise appear on this route. I'm not having that."

So I changed locales and adjusted my luck, chain-fishing and Leftovers-hunting at the same time. And I was right.

Shiny Poliwags chain-fished: 4
Leftovers Pickupped: 1
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on November 20, 2013, 02:31:33 PM
Why do you need a second Leftovers? I thought you weren't allowed to have duplicate items in multiplayer battles.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on November 20, 2013, 02:35:12 PM
Item clause is optional outside of battle spot. And ****ing stupid everywhere.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on November 21, 2013, 06:27:40 PM
.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Kuromatsu on November 21, 2013, 08:18:56 PM
please tell me there's a non-jpeg version of that picture
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on November 21, 2013, 08:42:03 PM
You're in luck. I pasted it to the bottom.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Toad on November 22, 2013, 03:29:11 PM
Is this supposed to be every generation redone in the style of the first..? It's pretty cool, but some of them look a little silly (Slakoth line, for instance)
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on November 22, 2013, 04:47:43 PM
I think it was meant to parody how ridiculous some of the original sprites look.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: WarpRattler on November 23, 2013, 10:38:45 AM
After a long break from the main games, I started Black recently, finished it yesterday morning, and started X last night.

I'll do a "favorite of each type" chart after I finish X's story.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Themetaknight on November 25, 2013, 08:06:02 PM
What do you think was the hardest gym leader in Pokemon Emerald?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on November 25, 2013, 10:07:11 PM
I never actually played all the way through Emerald, only Ruby/Sapphire. It's been a long time since then, too. The first time I learned what natures even did was during the last time I played Ruby. Until just a moment ago I thought that meant I was sure of which of my still-owned pokémon is the oldest, but I just remembered I also have a few from an even earlier FireRed playthrough...

Doesn't answer your question.

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmaaaash.net%2Fdrawn%2Fwoops.png&hash=7d3587a1a02996b1cbf8bf73a622472d)
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Toad on November 26, 2013, 03:18:11 PM
What do natures do? I'm still kind of thrown off by that bit
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on November 26, 2013, 03:36:47 PM
Most increase one stat by 10% while decreasing another, while others do nothing.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on November 28, 2013, 07:14:55 PM
Someone makes a program that reads your opponent's team and actions in online battles, lul (http://gbatemp.net/threads/pokemon-x-and-y-battle-analyzer.358270/)
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on November 28, 2013, 10:31:01 PM
Hatred.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on November 29, 2013, 03:43:30 PM
I predicted that response.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on November 29, 2013, 05:08:25 PM
I saw it first in a neogaf thread where an argument broke out over whether it was as bad as cheating in pokémon creation (making perfect ones from nothing, making shinies, and completely bypassing the breeding process). I'm in the boat that would never do that either, doesn't think it's okay, but also doesn't think it's as big of a problem because at least the pokémon I can get can feasibly have the same quality stats, so contending with that kind of cheater is no more difficult than with someone who plays the game as it's meant to be*. The ones who talk sense say that hacking pokémon ruins trading and using this thing ruins battling--each makes up half of the point of going online at all (substitute "collecting" for "trading" and you have, more or less, the two halves of the point of the entire game series) and I happen to be one who values battling more. But this first month and a half of online interactions has been good and I hope Game Freak cracks down on every way it's attempting to be screwed up, and soon.

*Actually come to think of it, when Bank is released it's going to be a bigger pain. Move tutors won't be available in generation 6 until another game comes out and that means if I want, say a Soundproof Bastiodon with Magnet Rise I can't also breed for one with perfect stats.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on November 29, 2013, 06:33:24 PM
http://3ds.pokemon-gl.com/information/fc0d552d-cbf1-45a6-a144-a4951990f512

Nintendo is on the ball.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Kuromatsu on December 02, 2013, 01:49:05 AM
You're in luck. I pasted it to the bottom.
Sorry for the late reply but oh man that took me back

I thought I'd try to draw up the minun again in that style
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Jman on December 07, 2013, 03:42:54 PM
Pokemon Amie was a great in-game mechanic.  I'm disappointed it doesn't factor into online play at all, but I think I understand why.  It would amp up the "random luck" factor.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Bigluigifan1.0 on December 07, 2013, 04:27:47 PM
That reminds me: When I challenged my rival recently, I used my Zygarde against all of his Pokemon, and was totally about to lose on Absol, with only one HP... but once the Absol's hit landed, the game told me that "Swabbleton toughed it out!" (Yes, that's my awesome name for it).

Apparently Pokemon Amie fun stuff saved him, and helped finish off all six Pokemon.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on December 13, 2013, 05:16:55 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ciuAcwbny6w
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on December 29, 2013, 09:28:36 PM
You've got to feel bad for Aurorus.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: bobbysq1337 on January 06, 2014, 01:59:34 PM
Has anyone tried Pokemon Showdown?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Tavros on January 06, 2014, 03:17:44 PM
You've got to feel bad for Aurorus.
I like how most of the best are steel.
EDIT: Just caught Mewtwo with a Timer Ball. Hooray
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on January 23, 2014, 09:27:25 PM
jdaster64, your Friend Safari gave me my second-ever shiny, and the first I've encountered since about 2002.

So thanks.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on February 04, 2014, 02:37:52 PM
Europe has bank now. North America still no.

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffinancesonline.com%2Fuploads%2Fsalt.jpg&hash=a4e9e7f11769f048b9a4d94cc80f012c)
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: jdaster64 on February 04, 2014, 08:49:57 PM
At this point, I've already completed the National Dex from GTS and normal availability, so I don't have much use for it anyway.  Now that I have the Shiny Charm, I've recently been trying to breed a Shiny high-IV Technician Breloom for fun, but not much luck so far.  I did get a couple of shinies really early, but the first was before I realized that Bullet Seed wasn't in its normal moveset (which is pretty dang important a move to miss on an attack-centered Technician set), and the second one had something like a 10 for its Attack IV.

EDIT: On that note, if anyone wants a 5-IV Adamant Technician Breloom, I can give 'em out for whatever.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: bobbysq1337 on February 04, 2014, 10:03:26 PM
innuendo warning (http://i.imgur.com/fwGr8wq.png)
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on February 05, 2014, 12:15:10 AM
<3
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: jdaster64 on February 06, 2014, 06:50:01 AM
Well, apparently the Bank does have some form or another of legitimacy checking on legendary Pokémon; it wouldn't let me port up the Shaymin I glitched to in Diamond.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: bobbysq1337 on February 06, 2014, 07:29:13 AM
I think it just checks for legit movesets. I heard someone got a 6iv shiny Celebi through.

(heard as in, push the truck)
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on February 06, 2014, 10:34:09 AM
Can the Pokemon Bank be used to transfer Pokemon between sixth-gen games, or just to import them from Gen V?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on February 06, 2014, 11:07:22 AM
Probably. It's linked to your Nintendo Network ID.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Toad on February 06, 2014, 04:21:50 PM
I only have one gen six game, but upon reading the paperwork, yes, it appears you can transfer between the two games.

Keep in mind items will not transfer (at least, that's what the rules say. I haven't done it myself..)
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: bobbysq1337 on February 15, 2014, 08:24:13 PM
http://www.twitch.tv/twitchplayspokemon

Thousands of people playing Pokemon Red at the same time.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Tavros on February 15, 2014, 09:18:58 PM
Getting back into SoulSilver. God this game is awesome.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on February 19, 2014, 01:11:45 AM
I've kind of had all interest in TPP killed off by now because, hilariously, by implementing ideas meant to make getting to the game's conclusion more feasible, the entire playthrough has lost its purpose and direction. I wanted to see an answer to a question: how long would it take for thousands of people sharing control of an emulator to finish the game? Well, guess what, if the answer was "Upwards of a year because the pokémon who can fight keep getting released, for some reason nobody thinks buying a pokédoll would be faster than going into the game corner hideout, and Route 9 would be impossible unless interest died down enough for a night free of trolls," we'll never know. We'll know the answer to a more complicated question involving admin takeovers and a voting system, but honestly, who cares? If just getting it done was what was important, why does it even matter who is playing it? Being completely ridiculous and unwatchable is the entire appeal.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: jdaster64 on February 19, 2014, 08:24:29 AM
I would think that it would've still taken way longer to get a Pokédoll to the top of Pokémon Tower without tossing it or using it in a standard encounter than it would to do the requisite sidequests, especially after the whole Eevee fiasco.  Also, pretty sure the Safari Zone would end the run long before Route 22's already nigh-impossible ledge and Victory Road.

On an unrelated note, this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZ5FKifp40A).  I blame BP for misinforming (http://smaaaash.net/95/) me on Furret's "official" height.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: bobbysq1337 on February 19, 2014, 12:19:52 PM
The safari zone's step counter was disabled.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on February 19, 2014, 03:28:26 PM
On an unrelated note, this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZ5FKifp40A).  I blame BP for misinforming (http://smaaaash.net/95/) me on Furret's "official" height.

Sorry! Yeah! I was well aware I was fudging that one. For the exact reason in the video. Yes, I was a girl all along, did the beard fool you
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: jdaster64 on February 19, 2014, 06:59:18 PM
On that note, it's funny how growing up with the Mario series, particularly the RPGs, shaped my perception of the relative size of player and non-player / support characters; most of the enemies in the Mario series tend to hover around half to two-thirds of Mario's height, and that's typically about how big I imagine most Pokémon (particularly the non-fully-evolved ones) are compared to the protagonist.  Similarly, I imagine most fully-evolved Pokémon, particularly those that know Fly/Surf, to be of a similar proportion to Yoshi's size compared to Mario.  Then ones like Dunsparce, Furret, and Dragonair end up completely surprising me.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: bobbysq1337 on February 22, 2014, 06:53:10 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bg-PfCjCYAAeJKt.jpg) (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bg-PfCjCYAAeJKt.jpg:large)
(click for larger version because fine print)
In case you don't own X or Y yet and haven't registered one of these games/systems on Club Nintendo.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Koopaslaya on February 22, 2014, 07:24:35 PM
I really tried to get into Twitch plays Pokemon, but I just couldn't seem to get beyond all of the pause buffering. It didn't make for fun watching. I suppose if you were one of the folks who was trying to strategize and maximize inputs, then it could be somewhat fun. But I've found that watching it is something of a chore!
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: bobbysq1337 on February 22, 2014, 08:05:25 PM
It's good to have in the background while doing something else.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Bigluigifan1.0 on February 22, 2014, 11:58:09 PM
I mean, it's funny to check up on every once in a while, but "good" might not be the right word for it...
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on February 23, 2014, 12:13:56 PM
Hate watching it, love hearing about it?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on April 17, 2014, 03:26:51 PM
I can dig this, apart from the repetitive palette.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Tavros on April 17, 2014, 07:02:45 PM
I saw Greninja and immediately didn't like it. The colors didn't help. (BP I'm sorry but the only thing worse than Froakie to me is Chikorita)
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on April 17, 2014, 07:45:35 PM
I didn't like Greninja at first either but I quickly changed my mind.

And don't apologize to me, that's silly. Having an opinion isn't criminal, like being a genwunner or something
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Bigluigifan1.0 on April 18, 2014, 05:26:50 AM
I feel like this is the place to post this: I completed the Pokedex in X. GTS is a really good thing to use in the final stretch.

BBL, hatching Oshawotts.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on April 18, 2014, 01:00:02 PM
I've been working my way to beating everything in Stadium 2 in Project 64, using Crystal and Yellow ROMs to create teams. In the process I've learned just how EVs' predecessor, stat experience, works. It's actually kind of cool, every stat can be maxed out without sacrificing points in the others, so anything with the appropriate base stats and moves can run a mixed moveset. Which makes the fact that physical and special attacks are still bound to types a lot less painful.

Prediction is also much easier because there's a lot less to know. Fewer moves, no abilities, only the most familiar Pokémon, most items are negligible bits of garbage. Still I think I might be getting better at strategy in a way that can be applied to gen 6... except that Gen 2 is a lot more defensive.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Tavros on April 19, 2014, 02:01:34 PM
BP, I meant the image Weegee posted. Also it's nice to know that we are understanding, considering our favorite starter evolutions are evenly matched.

Also, on an unrelated note, what's with the second trio of types for the starters? It's not bad, but why not be Grass/Dark and Water/Fighting? Or whatever, since I'm down for a Fire/Dark starter. Especially if it takes after Absol in the looks department.
EDIT:whoops I meant fire and dark not water and dark that's silly we have greninja
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Toad on April 20, 2014, 01:03:13 PM
That is Absol-utely a great idea. Absol is a good dark type, and the idea of a starter thing evolving into a whatever/dark is awesome (my favorite starters have always been water for the most part too, so I am excited to see Greninja in SSB4.. what do you think his IV's are XD
)
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on April 22, 2014, 07:57:52 PM
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FfwwAkM3.jpg&hash=51cb6e0cb9474a54a01b35d5565ab879)
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on April 25, 2014, 07:06:57 PM
I did it, I beat everything in Stadium 2 (http://gifsound.com/?gif=i.imgur.com/CAyzYyK.jpg&v=CJiR_WZbPZM&s=82)
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on April 25, 2014, 07:31:55 PM
Is this the part where you find you have nothing left to live for and become despondent?

I have officially entered the realm of overpriced Pokemon plushes. This guy ran me forty bucks.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on April 25, 2014, 09:48:18 PM
Not yet. I am trying to clear out some of my backlog (http://www.backloggery.com/politoed). Stadium 2 was one of the ones on there that would take the most effort to finish, if not THE one. After that and having finally finished Banjo-Tooie a month ago, Mega Man Legends is the only Nintendo 64 game I physically own and have not beaten. Which doesn't make it next in line, but someday.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on April 26, 2014, 09:21:37 PM
Here are the pokémon I used

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmaaaash.net%2Fdrawn%2Fstadium2.png&hash=dbaf2a03a95a664332061d0ddb5812bd)
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: bobbysq1337 on May 07, 2014, 08:45:27 AM
http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-video-games/pokemon-omega-ruby-and-pokemon-alpha-sapphire/
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on May 07, 2014, 12:43:23 PM
What's everyone's pick? AlphaSapphire or BetaRuby?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: bobbysq1337 on May 07, 2014, 01:41:56 PM
BetaRuby, it's a later version with less bugs.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on May 07, 2014, 03:34:58 PM
Ruby's slightly different storyline makes more sense. "We want to expand the ocean so there will be more fun places to go swimming"? Really, Team Aqua? The best part is, that wouldn't even work. More water on earth would mean shorter landmass perimeters. Smaller beaches.

I probably won't skip it, but... what I'm thinking about is all the expansion-type stuff that the Third Version usually introduces. HGSS came after Platinum and had Move Tutors, the Battle Frontier, gym leader rematches and other stuff from it. FRLG came before Emerald and had nothing. I would have hoped for Hoenn to be Confirmed AFTER the probable Z or X2/Y2 or whatever. That way, I could have X and Hoenn Remake with all the ground covered between the two. Ultimately, the extra goodies matter to me more than the joy of needing a Fly/Rock Smash/Dive/Cut slave again, so if I'm right, maybe I can summon the self-respect to not bother with it.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: bobbysq1337 on May 07, 2014, 06:01:36 PM
I'm expecting OR/AS to be modeled after Emerald, with Rayquaza and the Battle Frontier, like how HG/SS were modeled after Crystal, with all of Crystal's features.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on May 10, 2014, 06:20:05 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00DyEDmQ83s

This is what they have to show with six months until release.

At least the soundtrack is a step up from the originals.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: bobbysq1337 on May 10, 2014, 10:41:11 PM
Don't expect anything significant until E3.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on May 11, 2014, 12:03:46 AM
Eh, Pokémon has a pretty awful track record for exciting prerelease trailers. I mean, the one that introduced Pokmon-Amie and the Fairy Type for XY was a big deal, but only for what it was about. The presentation was pretty bad. As far as this goes, we know more or less what to expect already. What HGSS and FRLG were. Professional ROM hacks. Showing off the battle scenes or pokémon models or anything but the maps or the script we've already read would be XY footage with more Poochyenas.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Turtlekid1 on May 11, 2014, 03:54:24 PM
I suppose I'd be given a lot of dirty looks for suggesting that we know what to expect already not because it's a remake, but because it's Pokémon.

I still want a Z Version.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: bobbysq1337 on May 13, 2014, 06:05:50 PM
I recently beat Black 2. Any good post-E4 things to do while waiting for OR/AS/Z? (I don't own X or Y)

also this (http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-news/release-your-inner-artist/)
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Tavros on May 19, 2014, 09:05:16 AM
So. Who here is getting OR, and who belongs in a mental institution is getting AS?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Bigluigifan1.0 on May 19, 2014, 08:13:22 PM
I caught my first shiny today: Smeargle

After chaining 20+ times (I don't think I hit 30 when it happened) in that crazy huge grassy area on route 7(?), I found a sparkling patch of grass, and proceeded to freak out. Being 22, this reaction is about 13 years later than it should have been. I also nearly chained enough for a shiny Ditto in the Pokemon Village, but naturally, 30+ chains later, I got distracted by a friggin' Noctowl.

Also, I'll take the mental institution, because I already own GBA Ruby and want to give it a spin. Either way, my brother is getting OR, so I'm not going to be missing out on much in the first place.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on May 30, 2014, 02:34:18 PM
Nintendo's put in a trademark for "Delta Emerald". At least they're warning us ahead of time.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: bobbysq1337 on May 30, 2014, 06:13:59 PM
It may be fake, since the reason for the names are the markings on Kyogre and Groudon, while Rayquaza doesn't have any deltas on him.

There's also the fact that both will technically be Emerald (in terms of story and catchable legendaries) if it follows HGSS.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on June 02, 2014, 12:28:37 PM
Why does Mr. Mime have a cry?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: bobbysq1337 on June 07, 2014, 10:47:15 AM
Mega Hoenn starters leaked (http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml)
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on June 07, 2014, 12:12:28 PM
They're almost as ugly as the male protag. At least he's clearly wearing a hat this time.

Guess we can bid adieu to character customization, huh?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: WarpRattler on June 07, 2014, 02:38:06 PM
I wouldn't be so sure; Serena and Calem have canon designs.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Tavros on June 08, 2014, 08:22:49 AM
Those new designs are disgusting. Though now we know that the white stuff was his hat. And now the other starters have a possibility of a chance against Blaziken!
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: bobbysq1337 on June 08, 2014, 08:46:09 AM
I was going to find some comparison images, but apparently searching "brendan and may" won't get you official artwork.

Also, I personally think their redesigns are alright.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Tavros on June 08, 2014, 12:59:40 PM
Cool. Also yes f you look anything like that up will mostly be shipping fan art. You've been warned
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: The Chef on June 10, 2014, 12:23:14 PM
Looks like I was right about it being a hat.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on June 10, 2014, 12:58:10 PM
Everyone ready for Primal Charizard Alpha and Omega?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on August 12, 2014, 02:38:14 PM
A lot can change in fifteen years.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: bobbysq1337 on September 26, 2014, 07:21:57 PM
Apparently there's going to be demo distributions for ORAS for Platinum CN members again. Make sure your box is checked.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: bobbysq1337 on October 14, 2014, 11:42:27 AM
ORAS demos aren't going to be through Club Nintendo.

Here's how to do it. (http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-news/head-to-hoenn-early-with-the-pokemon-trainer-club/)
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: CrossEyed7 on October 24, 2014, 10:44:00 AM
Anyone want my extra ORAS code?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Bigluigifan1.0 on October 24, 2014, 11:36:52 AM
Yes please! I have a friend that would appreciate it!
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: CrossEyed7 on October 24, 2014, 12:01:34 PM
Sent.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Bigluigifan1.0 on October 24, 2014, 08:31:06 PM
Thanks!

I've only played it a few times myself; the last reward I got was the 10 Pokeballs.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: bobbysq1337 on November 28, 2014, 09:51:22 AM
If you have ORAS, make sure to save just before beating the game. There's a bug in some copies that crashes the game upon entering the Hall of Fame.

Source (http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Version_1.2_patch_for_Pok%C3%A9mon_Omega_Ruby_Alpha_Sapphire_announced)
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on November 29, 2014, 04:52:10 PM
Duly noted.

You know, I sort of regret not having bothered to pick up Diancie while it was available. Maybe they're redistribute it for Z.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on August 20, 2015, 08:14:37 PM
I've completed the national dex for the first time since Crystal. It is also very nearly a living pokédex, meaning I have one of everything in person, too. One of everything with a unique number, every stage of every evolution line. The only two I'm missing are Xerneas, whom I traded it for a Protean Froakie before they were common, and Yveltal, because I don't have Y. I mostly expect a typical Z version to come out, make Zygarde the center of a slightly altered storyline (maybe one that makes a little bit more sense) and Xerneas and Yveltal both catchable, like Emerald and Platinum did. But I can't really fully count on that, as Game Freak has gotten less and less predictable, maybe nothing will come out before gen 7, maybe Red and Green re-remakes will come out, maybe X and Y will get X 2 and Y 2 despite having nothing to work off of, it's all a mystery

This doesn't include mythical Pokémon--yeah, I'm on board with the term--or Deoxys, who don't count in X. I have Meloetta and Jirachi though.

Must obtain each of 'em!
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on August 20, 2015, 10:36:59 PM
Impressive, the closest I got was the regional Dex in Sapphire.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on August 21, 2015, 06:53:40 AM
It was a little easier than expected. From what I already had lying around in Bank, X, White 2, HeartGold and Platinum, the main thing I had to do was get legendaries, which required me to play through Ruby again to get the golems, Groudon, Latios and Rayquaza. I already had the birds, Ho-oh and the gerbils, got Mewtwo and Lugia in HeartGold, Conveniently, Kyogre and Latias were in HeartGold, so Ruby got me the complete set of Hoenn legendaries. I'd played Platinum to the end and therefore had access to Dialga, Palkia and Giratina, while Heatran, the Lake Redundancies, Regigigas and Cresselia were available in White 2. I had Zekrom, Reshiram, and Kyurem already because the fusion concept was one I had to see in action at least once, and I had the genies already from the Dream Radar, and so the last thing was the Musketeers, who were waiting for me in White 2. BW2 is really kind of ridiculous with how much is available. Besides starters and a couple of bizarre outliers, I probably could have done almost everything with just W2 and X.

What was most difficult for me to get were Vullaby/Mandibuzz, because I played White and White 2 and it was Black/Black 2 exclusive, and I didn't have a friend safari with it, and... wait for it... Glameow. Glameow is ****ing insane. It was version-exclusive to Pearl, with its Diamond counterpart being Stunky. Neither was in Platinum. Neither was in HeartGold or SoulSilver. Both were available in the Dream World for gen 5 but the dream is dead. Stunky was available in Hidden Grottoes in B2 while the same was true for Glameow in W2... briefly. It was some kind of event. Stunky was in X and Y, and Glameow finally sees the light of day again in ORAS, which I don't have, but you can't even get Glameow on GTS with X and Y alone because you never see one in-game. Holy crap. Nothing else has absences this long except for legends and myths. If even. I got Vullaby and Glameow by changing my profile message in X to fish for trades. Not before some idiot read "Glameow please?:)" and took it to mean "this guy wants a Volcanion egg!" No, I don't want illegitimate eggs containing unreleased mythical pokémon, thanks, also suck my combusken
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Turtlekid1 on August 21, 2015, 10:02:23 AM
If a "Z" version does happen I'll likely spring for it, but so far I haven't quite gotten the desire to catch up with the new elements.  Especially mega-evolution, which I find asinine.  The problem is, as soon as the fanbase got wise that a "third"/"middle" version was inevitable, they stopped making them.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on August 21, 2015, 10:28:23 AM
I hate mega evolution too. I like knowing that items never cross generations anymore. All those stones? Yeah, they're anchored to your gen 6 games. You don't know if they'll be handed out like the legendaries' special items, or withheld like pinch berries were in BW1 and Gems are in gen 6. Whether all, any, or only certain megas come back is a crapshoot. Have fun when your favorite one who still isn't any good is axed and all the overpowered ones you hate are still in!

But, my prediction is that Z will happen and the marketing will be about Mega Chesnaught, Delphox, Greninja, Xerneas, Yveltal, Zygarde and others. I just want my move tutors again without having to get OR, because I just played through Hoenn and I hate it, and nothing I've heard about ORAS makes me think I missed out. Except the move tutors. I finally got a Jirachi and can't teach it Iron Head >:(
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: bobbysq1337 on August 21, 2015, 03:26:30 PM
Heck, mega stones can't even go from ORAS to XY since they couldn't bother to update XY.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on August 21, 2015, 08:05:30 PM
I haven't touched Pokemon since finishing the story in AS, but I still keep tabs on upcoming games. Pardon me for sounding like a curmudgeon, but I dislike most of the new features in Gen VI. Mega evolution, lifeless 3D models, online gimmickry, and unfinished-feeling aspects.

That said, I'm interested to see more of Super Mystery Dungeon.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Toad on August 21, 2015, 11:48:11 PM
..you can't even get Glameow on GTS with X and Y alone because you never see one in-game.

Actually, yes you can. You don't have to see one in-game. While you're on the GTS screens, at any point where you input a Pokemon you are searching for, scroll to the bottom of the list to the option "What Pokemon?", and it'll let you type in the name of the thing you are looking for. Whether you've seen it in-game or not.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on August 22, 2015, 07:33:17 AM
Quote from: Bulbapedia
In the Generation VI games, the GTS is accessible via the Player Search System. Unlike in previous generations, the player may now ask for or seek Pokémon not yet registered in their Pokédex by selecting "What Pokémon?" at the end of the alphabetical options and typing out a Pokémon's name, though the gender of the Pokémon cannot be selected in this kind of search.

You're right. Too late now, oops.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Bigluigifan1.0 on August 22, 2015, 06:44:34 PM
Honestly, it took me a while to discover that too. X is the first game where I actually completed the Pokedex, sans stupid event legendaries.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on August 31, 2015, 07:53:58 PM
And now a true and real ghost story that happened to me today.

I was getting started on a proper Doubles team. I knew I wanted to make it a Trick Room team, and naturally wanted a Reuniclus on it. A Marowak was lined up to be in it, so I thought I'd name them Morpha and Stallord, and give the rest of the team Zelda names too, like how my Rotations team all has Mario names.

It would be a good idea to have a second Trick Room setter besides Reuniclus, too, and so I scrolled around the list of who could learn it for good candidates. Bulky Pokémon with awful Speed and decent Attack or Special Attack. Supersize Gourgeist stood out, with huge HP, nice defenses and pretty bad Speed and very high Attack. Unfortunately, its movepool is pretty terrible, hardly making any use of its high Attack, and its abilities are nothing special... but Trevenant has very similar stats and great options to use its Attack.

I checked my boxes for Phantump or Trevenant with good IVs so I could begin breeding one with a Relaxed nature. And I had one... a Relaxed Trevenant with IVs of 31 in everything except Special Attack, which I had received in a Wonder Trade from a player in Germany a few weeks ago. It could only be better if it had a low Speed IV, but at level 50 with a Relaxed nature and no EVs, it would only be a difference of 14, so this one is acceptable to me. But what about the team's Zelda-themed nicknames?

Well... the player who bred this Trevenant gave it a nickname for me...

Deku.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on September 01, 2015, 03:17:15 AM
OOoooOOOoooOOOooo

What are the other nicknames? I can see Zelda offering some good ones.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on September 01, 2015, 03:29:27 AM
Shabom, Azumarill; Moosh, Pangoro; Sentrobe, Magnezone
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on September 01, 2015, 06:05:38 AM
Cool. I was expecting an Octillery, but then remembered Octillery is trash.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Toad on September 01, 2015, 12:25:34 PM
No one suspects.. the Octillery.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on September 01, 2015, 06:12:26 PM
Octillery was in brief consideration for my rotation team, which is about spamming STAB Hydro Pump with a 100% critical hit ratio and Sniper in the rain, made perfectly accurate by Gravity. Very brief. Kingdra has the speed to sweep while Octillery does not, plus superior defensive typing and STAB Draco Meteor.

It's a good team but no one really plays Rotations. Free Battle is all uber-tier legendaries with no synergy and whether I win or lose Rating Battles (if I can get into one) depends solely on whether or not the opponent has a Mega Kangaskhan. Which has me considering using an Ability Capsule on the Kingdra. Sniper might be overkill, while Swift Swim would give me an edge on anything that would normally be too fast.


My doubles team is terrible.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on September 05, 2015, 12:52:22 AM
My Doubles team has been drastically improved by the addition of Mega Mawile (Molgera) and Aegislash (Fi--I already had her from long ago, so, [dukar]ty ghost story sequel oooOOOOO). They are in Smogon's uber tier, but, the banlist for doubles is much smaller. I'm not smart or skilled enough to talk about the competitive rules, really, but it still feels a little shady to break 'em. I see why there's some leeway for doubles, though, it is much harder to plow through with a really good individual. I quickly defeated the only Mega Kangaskhan I've fought in Doubles. Mega Mawile and Aegislash are tough cookies, but, you'll choke on your own cookies if the other player can take away your milk.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on September 05, 2015, 09:58:58 AM
Just checked Ubers for the first time in a while. Greninja?

Also, it's amusing how Mega Rayquayquay is so OP that they had to make a new tier to accomodate it.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on September 05, 2015, 11:50:52 AM
Protean is nuts and it has access to moves that can take out other ubers. But it's also got crazy stuff for setting up hazards that other ubers don't. It's just got a humongous amazing movepool and great stats. Frogadier even has some attention for NU, which doesn't mean it's really great, but is still somewhat of a rarity for not-fully-evolved pokémon, especially ones who were never fully evolved to begin with.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on September 05, 2015, 12:34:38 PM
Goodness, didn't know Protean was that good. My experience using Narutofrog in the Maison was rather middling, but of course that's a completely different arena.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: CrossEyed7 on September 10, 2015, 06:12:26 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sj2iQyBTQs

Bruh.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on September 10, 2015, 07:02:08 PM
Nice gameplay in that trailer.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Bigluigifan1.0 on September 10, 2015, 08:05:42 PM
This is gonna be the thing that 10 year olds and dudes in their 20s are gonna be doing on their phones all day now. Sure beats the heck out of Flappy Bird, I guess.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on September 10, 2015, 08:15:44 PM
How long until some kid walks into traffic while chasing a Charizard but instead gets a surprise encounter with a 4000-pound Steel-type and the game gets SwapNoted?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Turtlekid1 on September 10, 2015, 08:54:53 PM
Yes, what will we do now that Pokémon is going portable?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on September 12, 2015, 11:33:14 PM
New Zygarde forms including a cell-like blob, a dog, and a Digimon with dicks on its knees.

Also Mega Greninja.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: The Chef on September 13, 2015, 09:51:32 AM
I rather like the black and green color scheme.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on November 13, 2015, 03:49:41 PM
So then, who's excited for ports of R/B/Y with wireless multiplayer at the expense of the Rocket Game Corner and all the classic glitches/exploits?
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: WarpRattler on November 14, 2015, 08:31:17 AM
Pokémon Super Mystery Dungeon and Pokémon Picross are the only interesting Pokémon things on the way this year.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on January 25, 2016, 11:18:43 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2F46tGehnfo

Uhh...
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on May 10, 2016, 07:47:58 PM
So then. Hoothoot, Litleo, Seel, Mega-Pyroar, and Mega-Noivern.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Tavros on May 11, 2016, 12:43:11 PM
it's litten
I feel like my soul died a bit.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on May 11, 2016, 02:03:34 PM
Judging by all these "lit" puns, I'm guessing it's more Twitter slang.

smh tbh fam
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on May 12, 2016, 02:06:59 AM
;~;
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: ShadowBrain on May 12, 2016, 05:36:57 AM
So then. Hoothoot, Litleo, Seel, Mega-Pyroar, and Mega-Noivern.
Well... yep.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on May 15, 2016, 06:14:02 PM
;~~~;
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Tavros on May 15, 2016, 06:42:53 PM
I love Litten 10,000 times more now.
I feel sympathy for Popplio, and I can't feel a [darn] thing about the Grass starter.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Bigluigifan1.0 on May 15, 2016, 11:07:49 PM
While I no longer feel "attached" to Pokemon based on their cuteness or whatever, I definitely don't understand the need for so many people to act like Popplio is a crime against nature. (To be honest, the entirety of Pokemon is a crime against nature...)
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on May 16, 2016, 12:02:49 AM
I think people want to relive the magic that was Oshawott hate.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Toad on May 17, 2016, 03:47:55 PM
I miss the days when the box art had the starter on the box, not the legendary contained within. Just a random thought..

I don't get all the hate. Popplio could become actually OP. You never know.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on May 17, 2016, 07:42:51 PM
Err, those days ended after Gen I. It's been legendaries since 1999. Kids might have been led to think you could only get Charizard in Red and Blastoise in Blue.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: BP on May 17, 2016, 09:06:10 PM
I've been seeing the opposite, only universal praise for all three. Which is like, fine, okay, they're all right, and you only have to like one of them. But, better than the last two generations? No way
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Weegee on August 04, 2016, 08:54:33 PM
Anyone who doesn't love Alola Exeggutor is beyond saving.
Title: Re: Pokemon Topic
Post by: Tavros on August 05, 2016, 03:26:52 PM
Alola Nintails is way too OP against Dragon types.
Really though, the best thing about Gen VII is that we can do JoJo poses to use special moves. Pokemon have become Stands.
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Post by: Lizard Dude on October 24, 2016, 03:38:39 AM
I like this song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vO_dO3mMboQ
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Post by: Tavros on October 24, 2016, 01:19:04 PM
it kinda reminds me of Ai no Uta in terms of general tone (AKA sad), but it is indeed very good.
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Post by: Bigluigifan1.0 on October 24, 2016, 03:09:34 PM
I found my main; thank you for that compelling argument, LD.
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Post by: Weegee on October 24, 2016, 08:29:26 PM
Mimikyu was my favourite Gen VII mon as soon as I saw her.

I like a bunch of SM's Pokemon, but not their evolved forms. Why does awesome woodpecker have to evolve into generic cartoon toucan?
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Post by: BP on October 25, 2016, 06:04:47 AM
Palossand is far and away my favorite one so far. If Water Compaction makes it immune to water attacks, I'm expecting it to be a formidable tank, too...
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Post by: BP on November 21, 2016, 03:09:17 PM
My main problem with the game is that it will not ever shut the hell up about Kanto and generation 1. You've got your new alternate Alolan forms, they're all from gen 1 originally. The all-new pokémon are often difficult to find (I hear there is one you can only find by battling a wild Corsola until it calls for help), but the returning pokémon are not, and most of them are from gen 1. Keep an eye open for shadows on the ground! You can get a flying pokémon that's not found in the grass! Except half the time it's Spearow, who is found in the grass as well. Here, have a fishing rod! Who knows what wondrous new things can be found in the water on the end of your hook... like Magikarp. Again. Ever wanted to ride a pokémon around (and not have it be sluggish and restrictive like in gen 6)? Well I hope it's been the same ones for the last 20 years, because other than Stoutland and Sharpedo they're all from gen 1.

What really got me was when I was in a grocery store in the game, and an NPC offered free samples, including "Tamato berries fresh from Kanto." No. Shut up. Just shut up. Kanto is NOT known for berries. Ever. At all. For any reason whatsoever. There were no berries in gen 1. There were fewer trees in Kanto than Johto in gen 2. Berry trees didn't exist in Kanto in gen 3, you could find berries there sure but only hidden invisibly on the ground far away from any trees. There were once again no berry trees in gen 4, only apricorn trees. In the cases of gen 3 and 4. There is no reason you would have said a berry came from Kanto, Game Freak, unless you JUST wanted to mention Kanto, AGAIN. I get it. Kanto exists. It's amazing. Yeah. Geez.

Frankly I'm surprised there ISN'T a professor handing out Bulbasaur, Charmander and Squirtle again. Is this what the series is going to be, now? less than 90 actual new Pokémon per generation, and an obnoxious amount of gen 1 ****? I'm dying for another Black/White where all the old been-there-done-that pokémon are just gone and out of the way until postgame.


Other than that it's what I'd hoped X would be.
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Post by: Tavros on November 21, 2016, 04:59:13 PM
My personal favorite region was Hoenn but BW/B2W2 was a desperately needed breath of fresh air for the series.
Honestly, even aside from how early on it was, there are just a lot of design choices in the first two gens (mainly in terms of balancing) that make me not like them, even though the remakes are pretty cool (even though HGSS doesn't solve GSC's biggest issue, which is having no opportunities for postgame level grinding with the exception of the Elite 4, which would be fine if Kanto wasn't there, or even just Red being removed.)
Also Cynthia being in Gen 7 is a nice surprise, even if she's not my favorite.
well, "surprise"
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Post by: Weegee on November 21, 2016, 05:16:53 PM
Don't forget the protagonist and his/her mom moved to Alola... from Kanto. That said, I find the genwun pandering less obnoxious this time around compared to X/Y's.

I wish the new Pokemon weren't so slow. Seven evolutionary lines actually lose speed upon evolving. There are a couple Pokemon I gave up on using in-game because they had to eat an attack from every opponent before moving.
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Post by: CrossEyed7 on November 25, 2016, 08:59:09 AM
I love that when you walk up to the PC now, you're just in there. No booting up, no "Someone's PC", no accidentally hitting Deposit because you're used to Organize being on the top in ORAS -- you're just in it. I love that the "already knows four moves" screen finally shows your Pokémon's stats so you know whether to get a physical or a special move. I love that you can check what the moves do right from the moves screen. And I really love taking out HMs. HMs were a cool immersion thing 20 years ago, but by gen 3, they stopped serving their purpose of making your Pokémon feel like they're part of ths world and just became a nuisance. I love that the day care doesn't make you go over to the PC, switch out one of your team for the one you want to raise, drop it off at the desk, then go back to the PC to get your team back. I love that your PC tells you what Natures mean. I love that it's not just gyms.

Everything in S&M feels like someone finally looked at the series with fresh eyes and said "why the hell are we still doing it this way?" For me so far, gen 7 is all about the huge list of QOL improvements that should have been done a long time ago (seriously, there's no reason that Deposit and Withdraw should have still been options after Organize became a thing). The dialogue also seems better than usual and it's the first time I've really been able to get into the story of a Pokémon game.

I give it a 3/10.
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Post by: Weegee on November 27, 2016, 06:17:26 PM
The PC is a joy to use now. I'm also glad they brought back the miscellaneous storage pocket in your bag for one-off evolutionary/held items and the like.

My biggest complaint is Festival Plaza. It's an enormous step back in functionality from the PSS, and it overcomplicates simple tasks like dyeing clothing items or resetting EVs. The only way to level it up is to play tedious minigames, and you can only initiate three of those per day.
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Post by: Turtlekid1 on November 28, 2016, 10:31:01 AM
EV training has always seemed kind of like this awkward mechanic that everyone (including the devs) knows is really tedious and unfun; but at the same time, there's this odd aversion to completely doing away with it or making it more trivial, like somehow everything would be too smooth without it.  Super Training in X/Y was way better than the long grinds I remember from Gen IV, but having my progress come to a complete halt for however long it took to do a couple minigames over and over was still not something I thought of as terribly compelling.

(I haven't played the new ones but from most sources I read it sounds like they've been continuing the proud series tradition of "two steps forward, one step back")
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Post by: BP on November 28, 2016, 02:19:55 PM
I always opted to fight hordes over super training for my EVs. Especially after Bank came out, gave me more BP than I could ever need, allowing me to get loads of Power items.

Nothing as simple seems to exist in SM. I think I'll probably usually do my breeding and EV training in X unless there is an egg move or the Pokémon I want doesn't exist in gen 6.
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Post by: Weegee on November 28, 2016, 04:30:55 PM
The quickest way to EV train now is having enemies call for help. Each consecutive opponent you KO gives twice as many EVs as the last, so if your Pokemon is holding a Power item, you can max out a stat after beating fourteen enemies. Seven if the Pokemon has Pokerus. Be sure to have someone with False Swipe and a stock of Adrenaline Orbs. It's not as faste as hordes, but better than the alternatives offered.

Another tip: Just south of the day-care building there's a little fenced-in enclosure that's possible to enter on foot, but not while riding a Pokemon. You can enter it, hop on Tauros, and spin the circle pad around to quickly hatch eggs. Better yet, the space is within view of the breeder who crosses her arms when an egg has appeared so you can collect them immediately.
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Post by: Lizard Dude on November 28, 2016, 05:02:00 PM
(https://gallery.mailchimp.com/8e81aeeacac6801eeeaa4fe51/images/313d3bfa-afa9-4548-bda0-53b03c8992a8.jpg)
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Post by: CrossEyed7 on November 28, 2016, 10:29:24 PM
me:

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FQ41UmNF.png&hash=5f0e07d8a78c8f4addf67873282bb5ff)
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Post by: BP on December 01, 2016, 03:16:43 AM
Triples and Rotations were removed!

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FdNbP1Bp.gif&hash=e9e118d642ebfcbc3559339f729a2a09)

My Triples team involved using Greninja's Mat Block and protean type changing, and Latias' Tailwind and Heal Pulse, to enable Lickilicky to destroy everything with Belly Drum, Rock Slide, Earthquake and Explosion. I know what to do to retool it into a doubles team. My Rotations team on the other hand... I'll explain it first

Politoed is in the lead, so Drizzle activates when the battle starts. Kingdra and Audino are in the back, Kingdra with Sniper and holding a Scope Lens, Audino with a Sitrus Berry because I never got a copy of ORAS and don't know if Audinite would really help it do its job here any better. On turn 1 I rotate to Kingdra, who uses Focus Energy, bringing its crit chance to 100%. On the second turn, I rotate to Audino and use Gravity. Gravity makes it so that low-accuracy moves like Hydro Pump will always hit. The rain multiplies water-type attacks' power by 1.5 and a Sniper's crits are 2.25 times as powerful as non-crits, plus you have your STAB, so this Kingdra is now dishing out base power 556.875 Hydro Pumps with over 100% accuracy. Politoed knows Rain Dance in addition to having Drizzle and can therefore restart the rain if it ends without having to switch out, and if anyone gets hurt, Audino knows Wish, which will heal whoever is rotated in on the turn after it's used. He also has Heal Bell. The team is backed up by Mamoswine, Garchomp and Toxicroak, all given hard-hitting moves that are sure to hit under high Gravity.

I can't make this absurd strategy happen in any other format, sadly, due to the way rotating does not use a turn or remove status changes like switching out does. I'm not sure I can even take any of the members and teach them different moves, because their natures are specific to the roles played in this team in particular. I'm just going to have to leave it in X unless they ever bring Rotations back.
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Post by: CrossEyed7 on December 01, 2016, 03:26:52 PM
I just realized, if Stars ends up being a thing, it's gonna be weird going back to single-screen battles after ten years.
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Post by: BP on January 06, 2017, 05:39:10 AM
It's that time of times again

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FbkMXOFk.jpg&hash=fdb7dc722d5d14d95363d6a8f9d2e16f) (http://smaaaash.net/drawn/typefavorites7.png)

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Post by: ShadowBrain on January 06, 2017, 06:46:34 AM
Nice lineup!
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Post by: Weegee on January 06, 2017, 04:03:08 PM
Love the Breloom drawing.

Wish I had a basket of bite-sized Goomies.