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Video Game Chat / Re: Why are game companies bringing back old stuff?

« on: October 11, 2011, 07:14:54 AM »

If it had been called something like "Paper Mario: The Tribe of
 Ancients and the Dark Prognosticus", fewer people would've
 thought it was New Super Mario Bros. and maybe not as many
 people would've been disappointed. Also if New Super Mario
 Bros. Wii had already come out in 2006, so that people in
 2007 wouldn't be so desperate for a Mario sidescroller. Then the main problem would've been that it's not as fun to not
 have real party members.

I think if the whole or part of the 1st part was in the manual, then less people would have been like "OMG GET 2 TEH MARIOS ALREADY Y U NO GAMEPLAY!!!!111!!!ELEVEN11!1ONE!" They would have found what may be the best self-parody game ever if it weren't for the textys.

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Mario Chat / Re: The Silly Mario Fan Theories Thread

« on: October 10, 2011, 10:44:35 PM »

This.
Moving on, World 6 in NSMB was where Nintendo put filler/rejected levels
I know this is more development than story, but think about it. There is a rain forest (W4), a tundra (W5), and a desert (W2) level. While those somewhat fit, the levels look like they belong in their respective worlds.

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Video Game Chat / Re: Why are game companies bringing back old stuff?

« on: October 10, 2011, 10:26:29 PM »

I'm not sure about that, actually. Going through most of the zones in the Sonic games packed into one game, along with two different playstyles sounds pretty neat to me (provided the physics engine is as good as the original Genesis games for 2D Sonic and SA2 for Modern Sonic). It makes me think of how awesome it would be if they made a Pokemon game where you can visit all the old regions in addition to the new region that's introduced.

I was thinking more of the 3DS version, where GHZ1 is a carbon copy of the orginal and MHZ2 has Genesis/Mega Drive music.

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Video Game Chat / Re: Why are game companies bringing back old stuff?

« on: October 10, 2011, 06:51:19 PM »

So, now that we are in VGC, who thinks Sega might be a little lazy with Sonic Generations?

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Mario Chat / Re: Creeping Graphical Sameyness

« on: October 10, 2011, 02:49:11 PM »

Paper Mario 3D[/center]
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(The POW Block is also different)

I have no idea why Nintendo thinks that POW Blocks need to look like their orginal version. In NSMBW it was funny. Now it's lazy.

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Mario Chat / Re: The Silly Mario Fan Theories Thread

« on: October 09, 2011, 08:55:28 PM »

Warp Zones were made before the Toads were turned into blocks.

They were made with the intent to help Mario get to Bowser's castle, but when they became blocks, they were placed to conceal them. The Minus World was a failed trap/curse placed on the pipes.

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Video Game Chat / Re: Why are game companies bringing back old stuff?

« on: October 09, 2011, 08:38:00 PM »

Should I change the title as well?

Yeah, change it to "Why are game companys bringing back old stuff?"

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Video Game Chat / Re: Why are game companies bringing back old stuff?

« on: October 08, 2011, 08:41:29 PM »

Man...CrossEyed's been on the warpath lately.

Though he did manage to say a LOT of what's been on my mind about the whole nostalgia trend. Namco appears to be trying to pull something similar with Pac-Man given the release of Championship Edition and that planned TV series for 2012 that makes absolutely no references to anything Pac-Man related aside from the original game and maaaaaybe the H-B cartoon.

I totally agree that we all are riding "the nostalgia train". As I said before, I'm fine with that as long as long as we make a quick stop at 2011 Station.
Also, I would like this to be moved to Video Game Chat so that we can talk about Sonic Generations.

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Video Game Chat / Re: Why are game companies bringing back old stuff?

« on: October 08, 2011, 07:22:24 PM »

CrossEyed speaks the gospel truth.

...But you're all still going to buy it, aren't you?

I will when I get a 3DS.

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Video Game Chat / Re: Why are game companies bringing back old stuff?

« on: October 08, 2011, 05:43:59 PM »

See, in 2005, Nintendo figured out that there are lots of people out there who loved Super Mario Bros. but haven't played Mario since then, so they figured "Hey, let's remake Super Mario Bros." And that worked. But then they thought all they needed to do is keep the trappings of the old games, and they can fundamentally alter the core gameplay and keep those lapsed gamers so long as it looks like Mario 3 on the outside. But that logic makes no sense, because those lapsed gamers stopped playing when Mario 64 came out, and Mario 64 had Goombas and Koopas and Piranha Plants and Bowser and Lakitus and Peach and Big Bertha and Wiggler and Piranha Plants, but what it didn't have was super-simple controls and gameplay that require no explanation (other than "hold down the freakin run button already gosh").

Make an actual new actual sidescroller and you'll make us all happy.

NSMBW was orginal, the DS version was pretty much an enhanced ROM hack.

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Mario Chat / Re: Super Mario 3DS?

« on: October 08, 2011, 05:25:41 PM »

bobbysq, for expressing excitement about a Mario game on a Mario fan forum?

I mean, it'd be one thing if he'd made five posts in a row like that, but would it really have contributed that much more to the thread if he had instead said "I certainly look forward to utilizing this Boomerang Brother suit. This revelation has increased my desire to exchange money for this game cartridge in the imminent future."?

I mean, unless he actually did make five posts in a row like that and you deleted them before I saw them.

Yes, I could have worded that better, but I did not spam and I told The Chef, the comma post was a browser mess up. We will continue this discussion via PM. Back to Mario 3DS.

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Video Game Chat / Re: Why are game companies bringing back old stuff?

« on: October 08, 2011, 04:10:55 PM »

When was the last time Mario got to use the Super Leaf in a 3D game?

When was the last time Mario got to fight Boom Boom in a 3D game?

When was the last time Mario had to jump onto a flagpole in a 3D game?

....see my point?

Haven't you noticed how everything that's old is getting remade and rebooted? Not just video games.

I mean, it started way back when Rocky 6 came out...17 years after Rocky 5. Then Indy Jones 4, nearly 2 decades after Indy 3. Freaking Tron got a sequel...one of the cheesiest movies of all time, and they even brought THAT back.

There was a new (short lived) Knight Rider show. That new My Little Pony is big with kids and adults for whatever reason. Cartoon Network remade Thundercats. THUNDERCATS.

The Ninja Turtles got a brand new comic to reboot the franchise. DC Comics rebooted their whole lineup. Superman can't even fly anymore. It hasn't been like that since the 1940s.

Back to video games, but not Mario. there's a new Kid Icarus coming out, Punch-Out got a remake. Bionic Commando.

Everybody's going back to old stuff. It's just how society's been for the last 5 years. It's not just Nintendo.

I'm not saying bringing back old stuff is a bad idea, I'm just saying that new stuff needs to be mixed with the old

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Mario Chat / Re: Super Mario 3DS?

« on: October 08, 2011, 12:08:05 PM »

BOOMERANG BRO SUIT CONFIRMED: http://ds.ign.com/articles/119/1199009p1.html

Oh my God yes.  So cool.

yesyesyesyesyesyesomgomgomgomgomg
~yay.

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Video Game Chat / Re: Why are game companies bringing back old stuff?

« on: October 08, 2011, 07:21:08 AM »

If that's the case, shouldn't Goombas and Koopas have been replaced years ago?

No, they are good enemies, but they are modified in ways that keep them fresh and new.

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Video Game Chat / Re: Why are game companies bringing back old stuff?

« on: October 07, 2011, 09:59:47 PM »

I don't think Nintendo is running out of ideas, I think bringing back old ones serves a couple different purposes.

1. Throwing us old farts a bone.  It's nice to see old classics again.
2. Getting the kids acquainted with the bad-[badonkadonk] old school stuff.  SO many kids (probably) missed the old school games we had the benefit of growing up with.  Why not give them a chance too?
3. Taking old ideas and twisting them with new concepts.  I love this, and I think it's probably the best reason to revisit old ideas.  There are SO many more possibilities with video games now than there were x number of years ago.  You can take an old idea and expand on it!  Heck, that's how we got Yoshi in Super Mario World!

I agree, but all we have seen of power-ups for SM3DL are things that have already been done. I'm not saying this is a bad idea, this will be the 2nd best 3D game in the series. (SM64 pwns all other 3D Mario games) I'm just saying that the old should be balenced with the new.