Author Topic: Super Smash Bros Brawl Lost Tracks? (Read 14650 times)

Linkin800 · « **on:** March 16, 2008, 11:20:49 AM »

It seems that Nintendo left some tracks on the disk that we're going to be put into brawl put never were. The most intresting of them all is the Beware the Forest's Mushrooms one from Super Mario RPG. Could that be a hint towards that Geno was going to be in Brawl? Also it seems that most of the lost tracks are Mother/Earthbound ones.

Mario Tracks

Boss Battle: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vL6lpwKamg8&feature=related

Beware The Forest's Musrooms: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uwkf77kw-CU

Yoshi's Cookie Type A: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-UCTVGtMhw&feature=related

The Ledgend of Zelda Tracks

Ballad of the Windfish: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UHLCk0OXRE&feature=related

Star Fox Tracks

The Loner, Falco Lambardi: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3L5vGC0gFSg&feature=related

Fire Emblem Lost Tracks

The Chosen Ones: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8OqA3_-M1o&feature=related

Move Out!: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fvUCtW2yuE&feature=related

Metal Gear Solid Tracks

MGS2 Main Theme: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pvkmR60lwk&feature=related

Sonic The Hedgehog Tracks

You Can Do Anything: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYD3f38N5Xs&feature=related

EarthBound/Mother Tracks

Eight Melodies: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dMervFNzbQ&feature=related

Smiles And Tears: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWdiYK_g6nM&feature=related

Because I Love You: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XamGj7S_Hw&feature=related

Hippie Battle Theme: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaJ3t7pcbeQ&feature=related

And thats it. Feel free to add more hiddin stuff from the game.

Kojinka · « **Reply #1 on:** March 16, 2008, 11:57:29 AM »

No fair! They should have kept Beware of the Forest Mushrooms! :(

MEGAß¥TE · « **Reply #2 on:** March 16, 2008, 12:03:26 PM »

Quote from: Linkin800 on March 16, 2008, 11:20:49 AM

It seems that Nintendo left some tracks on the disk that we're going to be put into brawl put never were.

No, you've got it wrong. Those were songs planned to be in the game, and had references to them left on the disc. However, the music was not included on the disc and the "lost tracks" were collected from other sources, but are not representative of what was actually cut.

Linkin800 · « **Reply #3 on:** March 16, 2008, 12:22:02 PM »

Quote from: MEGAß¥TE on March 16, 2008, 12:03:26 PM

No, you've got it wrong. Those were songs planned to be in the game, and had references to them left on the disc. However, the music was not included on the disc and the "lost tracks" were collected from other sources, but are not representative of what was actually cut.

oooh ok now I see. I also just relized that there is a empty spot next to wolf on the credits thing after you beat the game on classic mode. That could be another hint towards their being 1 more fighter that was going to be in the game.

Kojinka · « **Reply #4 on:** March 16, 2008, 12:29:58 PM »

Scratch what I just said. While Ballad of the Windfish, PiT boss battle, and Beware of the Forest's Musrooms would have made awesome selections in Brawl's library, I've heard that remix of BotFM at Galbadia Hotel under "Super Mario RPG Arranged Tracks". I think this might be a hoax.
All I can say on the Boss Battle theme, Brawl has quite a bit of tracks unchanged from their original mixes, so it's possible that this song might have been planned to go in the game, and it would have been perfect as its original mix. BotWF, can't say I've heard this remix before. So this could have been remixed by Nintendo or a fan.

Kojinka · « **Reply #5 on:** March 16, 2008, 12:31:30 PM »

Quote from: Linkin800 on March 16, 2008, 12:22:02 PM

oooh ok now I see. I also just relized that there is a empty spot next to wolf on the credits thing after you beat the game on classic mode. That could be another hint towards their being 1 more fighter that was going to be in the game.

That actually could have worked if they had used Melee's system of selecting random characters.

BP · « **Reply #6 on:** March 16, 2008, 01:01:09 PM »

Quote from: Linkin800 on March 16, 2008, 11:20:49 AM

It seems that Nintendo left some tracks on the disk that we're going to be put into brawl put never were. The most intresting of them all is the Beware the Forest's Mushrooms one from Super Mario RPG. Could that be a hint towards that Geno was going to be in Brawl?

GENO. DOESN'T. BELONG. IN. SMASH.

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EarthBound/Mother Tracks

Eight Melodies: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dMervFNzbQ&feature=related

Smiles And Tears: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWdiYK_g6nM&feature=related

Because I Love You: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XamGj7S_Hw&feature=related

Hippie Battle Theme: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaJ3t7pcbeQ&feature=related

Noooooooo! At least the hippie battle music wasn't much to be missed... Why does Nintendo hate their best RPGs ever?

ShadowBrain · « **Reply #7 on:** March 16, 2008, 01:33:22 PM »

Yeah, I remember my bro and I getting psyched because of this Brawl vid with Geno's Woods music playing. However, the sidebar said something about how it was a hoax, or whatever. Eh, woulda coulda shoulda.

MEGAß¥TE · « **Reply #8 on:** March 16, 2008, 02:51:03 PM »

Quote from: Linkin800 on March 16, 2008, 12:22:02 PM

oooh ok now I see. I also just relized that there is a empty spot next to wolf on the credits thing after you beat the game on classic mode. That could be another hint towards their being 1 more fighter that was going to be in the game.

There were several fighters planned who didn't make it into the game. References to their data is also on the disc. And none of them are Geno.

Toad · « **Reply #9 on:** March 16, 2008, 03:17:53 PM »

Why did Gritzy Desert get in instead of other songs from Partners in Time (the Boss Battle being cut is understandable; it went on forever and was moreso annoying than memorable..)

A good track would have been the title screen, where they could have also mixed in the SMB theme, much like they did in the actual game. That has got to be my favorite mix of the Mario theme to date (not counting Brawl's version, but I haven't heard it yet..)

Chupperson Weird · « **Reply #10 on:** March 16, 2008, 04:01:40 PM »

Quote from: Kojinka on March 16, 2008, 12:29:58 PM

I think this might be a hoax.

Quote from: MEGAß¥TE on March 16, 2008, 12:03:26 PM

However, the music was not included on the disc and the "lost tracks" were collected from other sources, but are not representative of what was actually cut.

Kojinka, for your own sake, read the thread.

SushieBoy · « **Reply #11 on:** March 16, 2008, 04:08:35 PM »

Quote from: Toad on March 16, 2008, 03:17:53 PM

Why did Gritzy Desert get in instead of other songs from Partners in Time

Maybe because it fits well with the Mushroomy Kingdom stage. Since it's all a wasteland. I like that song how in was on the DS. But I don't like how it's remixed now. On a related nore. thank god that "SUPER SONIC RACING" is in Brawl. you gotta have this one.

SUPER SONIC RACING
GOTTA KEEP YOUR FEET RIGHT ON THE GROUND

too bad it's a CD. But I made a CD factory and got it easily. I wish "Work it out" was in there too. Just listen to it:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=dkx5c0Nfb7U

I am being serious here. the songs are so corny it's awesome. Lol offtopic.

ShadowBrain · « **Reply #12 on:** March 16, 2008, 04:35:04 PM »

^ Everything except Sonic Boom blows.

Quote from: Toad on March 16, 2008, 03:17:53 PM

Why did Gritzy Desert get in instead of other songs from Partners in Time (the Boss Battle being cut is understandable; it went on forever and was moreso annoying than memorable..)

Well, though I liked the first M&L better, PiT's songs were catchier (honestly, a lot of them--topped off by the credits music/art--had a real Tim Burton vibe). Gritzy Desert was always stuck in my head (maybe along with Thwomp Volcano)...

penguinwizard · « **Reply #13 on:** March 16, 2008, 06:11:58 PM »

Thought I heard somewhere about fan-made remixes of songs that should have been in Brawl... and I don't know if these are that fan-made collection or not. In other words, I don't know whether these are official (were going to be in the game or cut), fan-made (never going to be in the game), or just fan-made remixes of what was going to appear in Brawl (song is correct but different from what was going to be added).

That said, Beware The Forest's Mushrooms TOTALLY should have made it in, considering some of the more completely-battle-inappropriate-music that made it in like the Donkey Kong Country map. If that made it in, this should have made it in. And since Sonic and Snake and Olimar made it into Brawl... even frickin ROB... Geno's not out of the question.

Yoshi's Cookie Type A is a longtime favorite of mine (someone remembers the game!), but again, sounds like it has no place in Brawl.

But it's a plausible list simply because there's cut EarthBound/Mother music on that list, knowing how much of an EarthBound nut that Sakurai and HAL are. "Because I Love You" is I believe the ending theme to EarthBound, which is just a slower version of Fourside (Melee already had a Fourside track). Hippie theme was a favorite of mine in EarthBound, so specifically it's 0:35-1:08 of the Hippie theme I like, though in hindsight it really isn't one of the more memorable EarthBound tracks. I'd say the Stray Dog enemy music in EarthBound is more recognizable. *watches EB videos* Gosh darn it, Diamond Dog reflecting the Multi-Bottle Rocket has to be one of the more brutal attacks in a game.

ShadowBrain · « **Reply #14 on:** March 16, 2008, 06:22:36 PM »

Honestly, to put the issue to rest (at least on my part), there are a handful of songs I'd say have "no place in Brawl" (what's up with the Tetris music, anyway? Didn't know they had the rights to that one...).

Chupperson Weird · « **Reply #15 on:** March 16, 2008, 06:42:11 PM »

???? The rights to Game Boy Tetris music, of all things? Why wouldn't they?

Linkin800 · « **Reply #16 on:** March 16, 2008, 06:45:07 PM »

Well I read that some of the songs he posted were remakes of the ones found. So I don't know which ones are the real ones or just remixed ones made by fans. All I know is that they might of have been on Brawl.

Chupperson Weird · « **Reply #17 on:** March 16, 2008, 06:50:24 PM »

All of the ones that were compiled by this guy are not from Brawl. The music was not included on the disc.

Linkin800 · « **Reply #18 on:** March 16, 2008, 06:57:12 PM »

I know that... Thats what I ment when I typed that.

popibros1 · « **Reply #19 on:** March 27, 2008, 03:14:21 PM »

WOW thats cool.
it makes you think what stages they where going to be in

Kojinka · « **Reply #20 on:** March 27, 2008, 04:09:02 PM »

If they weren't on the disc, how do we know that these songs were ever even planned to be in the game?

SolidShroom · « **Reply #21 on:** March 27, 2008, 05:13:13 PM »

Quote from: Bird Person on March 16, 2008, 01:01:09 PM

At least the hippie battle music wasn't much to be missed...

The hippie battle music is awesome.

BP · « **Reply #22 on:** March 27, 2008, 06:19:09 PM »

It is indeed, but what I meant was that they didn't do anything with it. The allegedly left-out renditions of Eight Melodies, Because I Love You and Smiles And Tears are fantastic. I'm not a huge fan of music they just cut and pasted, like the forest theme from Kirby & the Amazing Mirror... GBA-quality sound on the Wii = no good.

Also the Famicom Medley could've been a lot better, but it's sloppily thrown together like nothing else.

Chupperson Weird · « **Reply #23 on:** March 27, 2008, 07:37:17 PM »

Quote from: Kojinka on March 27, 2008, 04:09:02 PM

If they weren't on the disc, how do we know that these songs were ever even planned to be in the game?

I believe they are referenced somewhere in a text file. This does not mean that they were ever produced at all, though.

MEGAß¥TE · « **Reply #24 on:** March 27, 2008, 10:19:36 PM »

Quote from: Bird Person on March 27, 2008, 06:19:09 PM

It is indeed, but what I meant was that they didn't do anything with it. The allegedly left-out renditions of Eight Melodies, Because I Love You and Smiles And Tears are fantastic. I'm not a huge fan of music they just cut and pasted, like the forest theme from Kirby & the Amazing Mirror... GBA-quality sound on the Wii = no good.

The renditions were completely speculative and don't represent what may have been planned for the game. The only thing left in the game itself was the song list.

CrossEyed7 · « **Reply #25 on:** March 28, 2008, 10:27:30 AM »

And some of the song choices themselves are speculation. For example, the Partners in Time boss battle theme is meant to represent the track labelled "MLRPG02", which could be anything from either M&L game.

Kryssie · « **Reply #26 on:** April 16, 2008, 11:26:53 PM »

Aw, Forest Maze was cut :X

Kryssie · « **Reply #27 on:** April 16, 2008, 11:30:25 PM »

MGS2 theme too.. dang Hideo Kojima

Chupperson Weird · « **Reply #28 on:** April 17, 2008, 12:05:11 AM »

None of these were "cut." They were only proposed, and never made.

Turtlekid1 · « **Reply #29 on:** April 17, 2008, 11:21:22 AM »

The mini-boss theme from Super Mario 64 would've made a nice track... or is it in Brawl, and I just haven't unlocked it?

Suffix · « **Reply #30 on:** April 17, 2008, 11:52:58 AM »

No, it's not in Brawl. I agree that it's a good track, but it's only about 35 seconds long (before looping). Medley, anyone?

Turtlekid1 · « **Reply #31 on:** April 17, 2008, 11:59:27 AM »

A longer one (but still nice) might be Koopa's Road.

Dang, I miss SM64... my N64 got destroyed, then I lost my copy of SM64 DS (I still have no idea where it went)... I've been forced to listen to the soundtrack and play through the levels in my head.

ShadowBrain · « **Reply #32 on:** April 17, 2008, 06:36:53 PM »

Quote from: Suffix on April 17, 2008, 11:52:58 AM

No, it's not in Brawl. I agree that it's a good track, but it's only about 35 seconds long (before looping). Medley, anyone?

Hey, if they can make a sinister jungle song out of the Pikmin menu theme, they can do anything.

Suffix · « **Reply #33 on:** April 18, 2008, 12:43:13 AM »

Indeed.

Turtlekid: I think I mentioned Koopa's Road in a mailbag on the same subject, actually!

silverstarman · « **Reply #34 on:** April 22, 2008, 05:21:27 PM »

Quote from: Turtlekid1 on April 17, 2008, 11:59:27 AM

Dang, I miss SM64... my N64 got destroyed, then I lost my copy of SM64 DS (I still have no idea where it went)... I've been forced to listen to the soundtrack and play through the levels in my head.

...Virtual Console?