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Mario Chat / Re: The MATURE console debate thread.
« on: February 10, 2002, 04:18:53 PM »
"1. The X-Box will be able to go online officialy in March, and has already gone online over GameSpy."
Now, that is a big problem. People don't like to pay to play their games. They just want to pay once and play as long as they like. But if they have to pay a monthly fee, then they might not be too fond of it.
"2. The weight of the X-Box doesn't mean much. I mean 9 lbs is about as much as a lap-top weighs... unless you get those super slim ones."
Last time I check, the XBox weight 8 or 9 pounds and is the size of a VCR. I have yet to see a laptop like that.
"3. The size doesn't affect how well the games will be. Also, the unit sits on top of your TV, and therefore it doesn't really matter."
We all know that. We know that the size of the system doesn't effect how the game plays, that would be the circuit.
"4. Who cares what it looks like. It's not like you're gonna be playing Halo and just staring at the console while you get fragged to death."
Now, people don't hate the XBox for its size, they just like making fun of that fact. What they really hate is the size of the CONTROLLER. A person's hand can really hurt after using that thing for a certain period of time.
"5. Of course it doesn't have Mario, but that's very given."
But you and I know they are going to copy it, then give it some stupid name.
"6. The games don't really suck. Halo is a killer-app and Phantasy Star Online, Grand Theft Auto 3, and Metal Gear Solid X are all comming to it. There are even rumors of Square developing for it, but like I said, that's just a rumor."
Square most likely will be producing for it, and the GameCube too. Square's next Final Fantasy will be completely online, and for that to work, they have to put it on all of the next generation consoles. Especially the XBox and GameCube, though.
Mainly because the XBox focuses on internet gaming alot, and alot of Final Fantasy fans still resides on Nintendo's side. The Nintendo fans might not want to buy it because of the online gaming thing, though.
Oh, and I agreed. Those games you mentioned is cool. I just wish Grand Theft Auto 3 is on the GameCube, though.
"7. Microsoft is, of course, making the X-Box for money. I mean like Sony and Nintndo are doing it out of the goodness of thier heart?"
Yeah, we know that. But Nintendo and Sony have proven themselves.
Nintendo proven themselves with their million selling first-party games, and Sony proves that they can take good care of themselves even against the seemingly unstoppable Nintendo. They even had the guts to release the Playstation right after the MASSIVE success of the SNES. Do you know what a hugh risk that was?
Microsoft is a newcomer, so it still has to prove itself.
"8. The X-Box is actually a decent deal. It's just as much as a PS2 only most of the stuff that would have to be added on to a PS2 come with the X-Box."
True.
"9. The infamous "It's MS so it will crash" argument is also irrational. I mean it doesn't run Windows, which I agree sucks, in fact i'm not sure if it runs any OS really. Even if it did, however, it's proven that as compatability go up, stability go down. Therefore Windows is very unstable."
Actually, that argument is now plausible. XBox crashed at the world most famous video game convention, E3. They crashed in front of dozens of video game developers. Do you think this will go well for them?
"10. Everybody talks about how X-Boxes are defective, and I even heard one person say how MS was being sued... well that's just bull. I mean less than 1% of the consoles sold, or around 100-200 consoles, were defective. Sony and Nintendo posted about the same number of defective consoles."
And where did you get this information?
In actuality, Sony had a much higher number of defective systems, and Nintendo practically had none.
Oh, and I agree with that suing thing. I can sympathized with those people who are suing Microsoft if they got hurt because of the defective system, though.
"11. Oh yes, the controller. If you don't like it then good for you, but they make third party controllers you know."
Yeah, but why spend more money on third-party controllers when you could be getting the original controllers? And this present a problem if the original controllers sucks.
I don't want to have to buy third party controllers. If I buy them, then it should be because I WANT them, not because I NEED them.
"12. The "X-Box is just a PC argument" Well X-Box is NOT a PC. It does have some PC parts, but is no more a PC than a GameCube or PS2... well not really a GameCube because that runs off of the PowerPC processor."
False. It is true that all of the consoles contain computer parts, but XBox is by far the closest to a computer.
So close, in fact, that you have to istall some games on its hard-drive. Do you need to do that with the PS2, DreamCast, or GameCube?
"That's all I can think of for now. Have a nice day and keep this topic flame free."
You come onto a Mario supporting site, and start pointing out some things about the Xbox, and tell them to keep this thing flame-free?
I haven't read the other posts yet, so I don't know if it is flame free or not, but good luck, my friend.
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Nintendo, Born To Play.
Now, that is a big problem. People don't like to pay to play their games. They just want to pay once and play as long as they like. But if they have to pay a monthly fee, then they might not be too fond of it.
"2. The weight of the X-Box doesn't mean much. I mean 9 lbs is about as much as a lap-top weighs... unless you get those super slim ones."
Last time I check, the XBox weight 8 or 9 pounds and is the size of a VCR. I have yet to see a laptop like that.
"3. The size doesn't affect how well the games will be. Also, the unit sits on top of your TV, and therefore it doesn't really matter."
We all know that. We know that the size of the system doesn't effect how the game plays, that would be the circuit.
"4. Who cares what it looks like. It's not like you're gonna be playing Halo and just staring at the console while you get fragged to death."
Now, people don't hate the XBox for its size, they just like making fun of that fact. What they really hate is the size of the CONTROLLER. A person's hand can really hurt after using that thing for a certain period of time.
"5. Of course it doesn't have Mario, but that's very given."
But you and I know they are going to copy it, then give it some stupid name.
"6. The games don't really suck. Halo is a killer-app and Phantasy Star Online, Grand Theft Auto 3, and Metal Gear Solid X are all comming to it. There are even rumors of Square developing for it, but like I said, that's just a rumor."
Square most likely will be producing for it, and the GameCube too. Square's next Final Fantasy will be completely online, and for that to work, they have to put it on all of the next generation consoles. Especially the XBox and GameCube, though.
Mainly because the XBox focuses on internet gaming alot, and alot of Final Fantasy fans still resides on Nintendo's side. The Nintendo fans might not want to buy it because of the online gaming thing, though.
Oh, and I agreed. Those games you mentioned is cool. I just wish Grand Theft Auto 3 is on the GameCube, though.
"7. Microsoft is, of course, making the X-Box for money. I mean like Sony and Nintndo are doing it out of the goodness of thier heart?"
Yeah, we know that. But Nintendo and Sony have proven themselves.
Nintendo proven themselves with their million selling first-party games, and Sony proves that they can take good care of themselves even against the seemingly unstoppable Nintendo. They even had the guts to release the Playstation right after the MASSIVE success of the SNES. Do you know what a hugh risk that was?
Microsoft is a newcomer, so it still has to prove itself.
"8. The X-Box is actually a decent deal. It's just as much as a PS2 only most of the stuff that would have to be added on to a PS2 come with the X-Box."
True.
"9. The infamous "It's MS so it will crash" argument is also irrational. I mean it doesn't run Windows, which I agree sucks, in fact i'm not sure if it runs any OS really. Even if it did, however, it's proven that as compatability go up, stability go down. Therefore Windows is very unstable."
Actually, that argument is now plausible. XBox crashed at the world most famous video game convention, E3. They crashed in front of dozens of video game developers. Do you think this will go well for them?
"10. Everybody talks about how X-Boxes are defective, and I even heard one person say how MS was being sued... well that's just bull. I mean less than 1% of the consoles sold, or around 100-200 consoles, were defective. Sony and Nintendo posted about the same number of defective consoles."
And where did you get this information?
In actuality, Sony had a much higher number of defective systems, and Nintendo practically had none.
Oh, and I agree with that suing thing. I can sympathized with those people who are suing Microsoft if they got hurt because of the defective system, though.
"11. Oh yes, the controller. If you don't like it then good for you, but they make third party controllers you know."
Yeah, but why spend more money on third-party controllers when you could be getting the original controllers? And this present a problem if the original controllers sucks.
I don't want to have to buy third party controllers. If I buy them, then it should be because I WANT them, not because I NEED them.
"12. The "X-Box is just a PC argument" Well X-Box is NOT a PC. It does have some PC parts, but is no more a PC than a GameCube or PS2... well not really a GameCube because that runs off of the PowerPC processor."
False. It is true that all of the consoles contain computer parts, but XBox is by far the closest to a computer.
So close, in fact, that you have to istall some games on its hard-drive. Do you need to do that with the PS2, DreamCast, or GameCube?
"That's all I can think of for now. Have a nice day and keep this topic flame free."
You come onto a Mario supporting site, and start pointing out some things about the Xbox, and tell them to keep this thing flame-free?
I haven't read the other posts yet, so I don't know if it is flame free or not, but good luck, my friend.
______________________________
A World Without Nintendo Is A World Without Video Games.
Nintendo, Born To Play.
