The ANGST thread: Complain here!

[Glorb]

You clearly don't know what a good movie

I stopped reading right there since you don't watch anything besides anime porn.

[ShadowBrain]

Anybody else spend eight or so years around a bunch of people you thought were potentially good friends, then spent the last few of those years slowly realizing they're a bunch of foulmouthed, drug-addled, romantically screwed-up folks that you have barely anything in common with outside of school? Happens to me all the time.

[The Chef]

In the past I always wound up losing friends due to betrayal or distance. So I think I might.

[Weegee]

You actually see your friends outside of school?

[Mr. Wiggles]

I stopped reading right there since you don't watch anything besides anime porn.

Okay then, since you clearly aren't providing any good rebuttals aside from flinging insults and generalizations, let me break down why the movie is terrible.

Generic storyline.
Turning the hero into a villain.
An incredibly weak villain that was depowered from the original version.
No classic monsters.
Unlikable cast.
Shoddy production values (perhaps this was a throwback to the Toho films, but it doesn't work well when the CGI actually looks decent)

The only salvagable thing that came out of this was that awesome saturday morning cartoon that was a reimagined Godzilla done right. Keep in mind I've never seen a full Toho Godzilla film either, I'm just remembering stuff from when I saw a few scenes on the spanish channel as a child.

[Weegee]

I love how Mr. Wiggles didn't refute Glorb's accusation.

[Mr. Wiggles]

Well if you insist, stuff I'm currently watching:

24 Final Season
Glee
Community
WWE Smackdown
Futari Wa Pretty Cure
Pokemon Diamond and Pearl
The Simpsons
King of the Hill
Family Guy

Huh, whaddya know, not a single hentai title in that group. Though I am tempted to check out Seikan no Qwaser again based on some GIF's I found.

[WarpRattler]

I watched the first episode of Seikon no Qwaser. The show features ridiculous amounts of fanservice to try to hide the fact that the plot is pretty much a knockoff of that of Fullmetal Alchemist.

There was also an incredibly generic "new transfer student in the main characters' class is the superpowered kid they witnessed kicking ass the night before" bit at the end of the episode.

[Glorb]

Generic storyline.
Turning the hero into a villain.
An incredibly weak villain that was depowered from the original version.
Unlikable cast.

THOSE ARE ALL THE OLD MOVIES. They all had the same plotline (honest!), they fluctuated between using Godzilla as a hero and a villian, sometimes in the same [darn] movie (he was a villian in the very first movie, but he's also portrayed sympathetically in the '98 remake), they constantly changed his powers, abilities, and size, and I dare you to find a single likeable human in any of the old Toho films besides the badass eyepatch dude in the very first one.

Also,

Keep in mind I've never seen a full Toho Godzilla film either, I'm just remembering stuff from when I saw a few scenes on the spanish channel as a child.

If that was at the beginning of your post I'd have stopped reading right there.

Also, Glee cancels out everything else in that list you wrote.

[Mr. Wiggles]

Also,If that was at the beginning of your post I'd have stopped reading right there.

Make up your mind and stop being inconsistent. You're claiming the hardcore fans are unforgiving on the film and its good enough for a non-fan, but when non-fans find the movie has problems, you suddenly act like you should be following the series before watching in order to have an opinion on it?

Also, way to be so unique and edgy. I bet you hate Twilight and the Bieber kid and whatever else mainstream audiences like huh?

[Glorb]

I don't read Twilight but think it's annoying when people bring it up, and yes, I think Justin Bieber is quite lame, but what does that have to do with it at all? How is defending a genuinely reasonably good movie "unique and edgy"?

[ShadowBrain]

I didn't think cultural acceptance of Godzilla '98 was on par with vampires and tween pop stars. I'm assuming I'm following this debate correctly.

[Glorb]

That's exactly it. People like a mediocre emo book/movie series entirely because it's popular, and people like a small Canadian child because of Ludacris's blessings. People don't like a cool giant lizard movie about a giant lizard entirely because highly vocal Godzilla nerds (and a few Led Zeppelin nerds) complained their hearts out. It's a classic case of public opinion overruling actual quality.

[WarpRattler]

I don't read Twilight

a mediocre emo book/movie series

Good work invalidating your own argument.

[Glorb]

That didn't invalidate anything. I don't care about Twilight and never brought it up to begin with, and just because I've never seen it doesn't mean I can't formulate an opinion on how it looks. Wiggles was using the old Toho Godzilla films' alleged superiority as the backbone of his argument, and yet turns around and claims not to have actually seen any of them in full (or even in English). It would be akin to me defending Godzilla '98 by saying the trailers looked cool.