New Super Mario Brothers Wii

[Dr. Echidna]

Actually, I'm quite sure the toads are there because: it's a 4-player game, but there are only 2 Mario brothers. And toads have been helping Mario and Luigi for years, (take SMB2, SMB3, SM64, and Galaxy for example). So it would be pretty logical for them to be players 3 and 4, right?

[Toad]

Makes sense to me. I just wonder if you can choose to play as the Mario Bros or the Toads during the one player game?

[Weegee]

One would presume so. In my opinion, the optimal roster would consist of Mario, Luigi, Wario and the Toad, with Waluigi dying in a ditch somewhere.

[Trainman]

A game that "pushes the Wii to its limit" sounds a lot better than "a half-assed game that really doesn't use any of the Wii's potential at all".

Okay, that's not what I was talking about. I'm just repeating a quote I read from IGN about NSMB Wii not having wi-fi capabilities. Also, what I was asking was, "What the hell is 'pushing the Wii to its limit'?"

The extent of the motion controls will just be simple waggles to do certain moves or activate things in-game (a la Super Paper Mario). I mean, you're holding the Wiimote like a NES controller for this game, so how much motion control could you throw in there? There will be waggles and I imagine there might be a Wiimote pointer-dedicated section of the game... but I doubt enough to "push it to its limits."

Also, NSMB had 78 levels. I imagine Nintendo would bump that up to around 100 or so for NSMB Wii... (I doubt Nintendo would want to do more than about that). Unless the levels are extremely long and intricate, I don't believe 78 levels +30 or so levels would be enough to push the system over the edge... unless there's as crap-ton of extra content, etc. woven into the game, which I highly doubt. I believe NSMB Wii will be a straight-to-the-point platformer just like NSMB. Not tons of unlockables, frills, or anything like that.

Let's assume NSMB Wii will be the same presentation/etc. as NSMB. Add a few dozen levels and some motion control... up the polys for the character models a bit, then you're just about done. So inform me: what is gonna be in this game that's gonna make it on par (in a "technical limits" sense) with advanced, nice-looking games like Galaxy, Brawl, etc.?

[Weegee]

Let's somehow blame it on the Toads and be done with it.

But really, "pushing it to its limit" is just another BS marketing term applied to every electronic product that hits the market. Heck, developers would probably claim that those WiiWare Pokemon Mystery Dungeon titles "push the Wii to its limit".

[WarpRattler]

Reason why talking about things like how much space levels take up is pointless: A quick check shows that New Super Mario Bros. fits on a 32 MB DS card. Trimming dummy data (padding added to a ROM to take up the rest of a DS card) reveals the exact ROM size as 19.6 MB. In other words, you're comparing a game that's only a bit larger than Peggle to a future retail Wii game.

[Mr. Wiggles]

Also, NSMB had 78 levels. I imagine Nintendo would bump that up to around 100 or so for NSMB Wii... (I doubt Nintendo would want to do more than about that). Unless the levels are extremely long and intricate, I don't believe 78 levels +30 or so levels would be enough to push the system over the edge... unless there's as crap-ton of extra content, etc. woven into the game, which I highly doubt. I believe NSMB Wii will be a straight-to-the-point platformer just like NSMB. Not tons of unlockables, frills, or anything like that.

There was actually an interview awhile ago that asked about something like that, and they mentioned the levels are quite massive to accomadate the 4 player mode.

I sincerely hope that's not there only reason for pushing the Wii to its limits.

[Chupperson Weird]

Might I point out that the amount of data stored on the disc has pretty much nothing to do with how much processor power the game is taking up while running. Pushing it to its limits would be like having a really slick 3D engine running on it or something.

[ShadowBrain]

I heard somewhere that NSMBW has the exact same number of levels as the original.

[jdaster64]

I heard somewhere that NSMBW has the exact same number of levels as the original.

Well, at least they're not pulling a DKC on us. Don't get me wrong, the game was great, but it only had 33 levels. 

I'm still afraid they're going to cut back just because of its multiplayer-ability.

[ShadowBrain]

Well, making a sequel with the same amount of levels on a higher-powered system basically is cutting back, or at least breaking even.

[FlamingBlueMario]

So, there's no Wi-Fi gameplay in NSMBW? Well, that's not really a shock. Nintendo would never give the player everything he or she could ask for in a video game. And I'd like to think of the lack of online gameplay to mean that we'll probably see another NSMB game that does include online game play soon someday...maybe.

[jdaster64]

Well, making a sequel with the same amount of levels on a higher-powered system basically is cutting back, or at least breaking even.

+Co-op play.

[ShadowBrain]

Something just occured to me: You know what's probably eating up some of that space? That [darn]ed demo play thing.

[Weegee]

The very mention of demo play infuriates me, and now this possible revelation?!