Brawl's Ups and Downs

[N64 Chick]

Yeah, did they even hire any trophy modelers this time? Most of the trophies in Melee were brand new models. This time they had almost twice the development time, and yet virtually all the trophies are models that already existed in other games or would have been made for Brawl anyway.

Yeah. I see what you mean. I recall some people saying that all the Pokémon trophies (which there are too many of to begin with) were taken right out of Pokémon Battle Revolution.

And am I the only one that thinks that Casino Luigi (or whatever you want to call him when he's in that tuxedo from SM64DS and NSMB) would've been a neat trophy? It makes a neat plushie anyway.

[SushieBoy]

Since we are on the topic of Trophies. I'd like to post a down:

The Trophy descriptions are very inaccurate sometimes. For example: I always thought that "Cook Kirby" had appeared in "Kirby Super Star" but it doesn't state it at the bottom of his trophy. It just says "Super Smash Bros Brawl" Doesn't Sakurai know his own games?

Oh and, the fact that there is only 2 Game and Watch Trophies. What happened to the "Game and Watch" Trophy? They could have made trophies for his games. Like "Fire", or "Oil Panic". but no. Make way for the Ashley Robbins Trophy! What a great award you get for playing 100 hours of Brawls. A person you have probably never heard of!

[CrossEyed7]

I think all the Final Smash trophies just list Brawl at the bottom. Even Giga Bowser. Which is stupid.

[BP]

The only one that doesn't is Super Sonic.

Ness also has "Super Smash Bros." as his other appearance while other one-timers such as the Ice Climbers and Sheik only have their debuts listed. Pit's appearance list ignores the second Kid Icarus game. Red's list ignores the original Red, Blue and Yellow (and Gold, Silver and Crystal) and only notes FireRed and LeafGreen.

So yeah, the game rocks hard aside from all the non-game elements.

Up: Hour-long Brawl on WarioWare.

[N64 Chick]

Another mistake I noticed is with King K. Rool's trophy which says that Kaptain K. Rool is his brother. That's just plain wrong. They're the same person.

[ShadowBrain]

What is the rhyme and reason to the games listed under the trophies? Why is "SONIC THE HEDGEHOG" capitalized? Why is the Kirby section called "Kirby Super Star"? Why do we apparently know how to organize the trophy section better than Masahiro Sakurai?

Also, I believe there's some site that chronicles all the trophy errors of SSBM (here?). I'd like to think they've thrown in plenty of Brawl errata, too...

[silverstarman]

Some of the "first appearences" listed there are wrong. It said Shadows first appearence was Sonic Adventure 2 Battle, but it was the original Sonic Adventure 2 for the Dreamcast.

[SushieBoy]

Some of the "first appearences" listed there are wrong. It said Shadows first appearence was Sonic Adventure 2 Battle, but it was the original Sonic Adventure 2 for the Dreamcast.

Sometimes it also says "Sonic DX Directors Cut" and not just "Sonic Adventure" Why is that? So then... Anything that first appeared in "Kirby's Adventure" should not be listed as that but "Kirby Nightmare in Dreamland"?

[Chupperson Weird]

Because they added it in the director's cut and it wasn't in the original? Or, because the director's cut was on a Nintendo system? Eh, eh?

[SushieBoy]

Because they added it in the director's cut and it wasn't in the original? Or, because the director's cut was on a Nintendo system? Eh, eh?

Then explain "SONIC THE HEDGEHOG" and the Metal Gear games!

[TEM]

Then explain "SONIC THE HEDGEHOG" ...

For that part at least the answer is obvious, it clearly says SONIC THE HEDGEHOG in all caps on the title screen.

[penguinwizard]

LOL... Kalypso, I think.

My mind must be going. Kalypso is kind of cute.

Looking up on YouTube, some of if not most of the Donkey Kong models are from Donkey Kong Barrel Blast. That explains Tiny Kong's new design, which I find utterly repulsive, and it explains Kalypso.

I'm kind of disappointed that there aren't as many huge map-trophies (Mute City from Melee), huge-object-trophies, and collection-of-things trophies (F-Zero Racers from Melee, Kirby Hats from Melee) this time around.

[SushieBoy]

My mind must be going. Kalypso is kind of cute.
I'm kind of disappointed that there aren't as many huge map-trophies (Mute City from Melee), huge-object-trophies, and collection-of-things trophies (F-Zero Racers from Melee, Kirby Hats from Melee) this time around.

Have you seen the Halberd, the Subspace Gunship, Vegetables, Action Herlins, and the Pirate Ship Trophies? I too miss the Kirby Hat trophies.

[silverstarman]

Then explain "SONIC THE HEDGEHOG" and the Metal Gear games!

The original Metal Gear was ported to the NES a year after the MSX2 port, so that was on a Nintendo system.

[PaperLuigi]

The game is awesome. There's nothing wrong with it other than the fact that I suck at Wario, the guy I've always wanted to play as in a fighting game.

More than a month ago I said that Wario was my worst character. Now he's my best character and the only one I feel entirely comfortable playing as. So there's another up for Brawl.