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« on: March 10, 2002, 04:39:31 PM »
"Hmm, I disagree with pretty much everything you've said, but this is only my opinion, so don't let me persuede you to think otherwise."
Don't worry, it won't. You'll just get me to see with your perspective.
"1. Good ratings don't necessarily mean much. Ratings proove popularity, and as we know a popular show does not make it good, nor does an unpopular show make it bad. Can we remember Clerks? It only ran two out of the six episodes made before it was canceled, but if you watch them, you'd see how good they are."
I don't know Clerks, but I pretty much agree with you.
However, it is also true that every Final Fantasy games sold at least one million copies. That means that it must be pretty popular.
"2. "Probably" I am seeing this term used quite a bit. As these are only assumptions. Who knows if Square will make revamped versions of Cube games for the PS 2 or 3. Who's to say that it might not work the other way around? I could say that they would "probably" make even better games for Nintendo's new system. That doesn't make it any more true."
Yeah, but it some of these "probablys" were just recently announced. Square's affiliates just recently announced that the rumor game to be Final Fantasy Unlimited is true.
Most of the "probablys" were started because some websites made assumptions, so don't completely put the blame on people who talk about them.
"3. So, Sony makes some more money. It doesn't really matter if they make a little bit more. Some seem to forget Sony is not only a video game producer but is in the whole electronic market, so I don't see Nintendo destroying them relatively soon with or without Square's help."
Oh, I still remember that, but I was just stating that part just to let some people know. As a matter of fact, I didn't even know that they will be getting money until someone told me.
"So what this basically means is, SQUARE IS JUST USING NINTENDO FANS MONEY TO MAKE NEW AND BETTER GAMES FOR SONY'S SYSTEMS!!!"
"Ah, I am assuming you work for Square now, or you are really quite talented at guessing."
Listen, I can understand if you are cynical when pointing out my mistakes, but don't say that I work for any company again. It's been used too many times, and now I find it incredibly annoying. Just called me a psychic or Miss Cleo if you must, but don't say that I work for a certain company again.
"Who is to say that Square will not produce the new games they release on the Cube as well? Or, maybe they are using the revenue from Sony to make better games for the Cube."
How about Square themselves? GameSpot just released an article which shows that the PS2 is still their main console. The only reason they are making GameCube games at all is so they can make ports for the GameBoy Advance.
"It doesn't matter how Square is making money, nor from which system, for it goes to the same place anyway, which goes towards making new and hopefully better games."
I know.
"And what about Capcom, or Enix, or any company that makes games for Sony and Nintendo? Why aren't they planning on "using Nintendo fans to make better games for the Playstation?""
Because Capcom and Enix isn't in financial problems after making a very expensive movie that flopped. And for one thing, neither of them are known for sticking to one console.
During the NES/Master System and SNES/Genesis days, SquareSoft stick mainly to Nintendo. Now during the days of PSX/N64/Saturn and PS2/GCN/Xbox, they are mainly sticking to Sony.
The only reason they want to release Final Fantasy XI on all of the consoles is so they can insured its success more since it is a completely online game.
"And you know what the really bad part of this is? Square is not even really making this game. One of their affiliate(The ones who created Legend of Mana and SaGa), will be. And as history have shown, they are not as good as SquareSoft at making RPGs."
"True, an affiliate is creating the game coming to the Cube. However, who is to say that it wont be good? What about Mario games? They seem to be getting better and better, eh? So the affiliates had some bad games, you can say as Much for Square USA as well. Can anyone say Final Fantasy Mystic Quest? How about Final Fantasy the Movie? Such things are terrible, but none the less, they continue to put out good games."
First of all, the same person(Shigeru Miyamoto) made all of the Super Mario games. Square's affiliate are making this game instead of Square themselves.
Secondly, what is wrong withg Final Fantasy:Mystic Quest? Is it because it is too easy? You may not know this but it was made to be easy. This game was meant to bring non-RPG fans to the genre more. And I just happen to like it too.
Yes, I know the Final Fantasy movie flopped, but what does this have to do with video games other than the fact that it is based on one?
"But that's not all, folks! For years, Nintendo fans have been whining about how Yamauchi should retired because he keeps making stupid decisions(Even though he doesn't!), and now when he finally gave in and let Square make games for them, they are calling him a genius!
Yet, in reality, this is an incredibly stupid move. Because Yamauchi's new program is funding Square's affiliate, and what that means is, SQUARE WON'T LOSE A DIME IF FINAL FANTASY UNLIMITED FLOPS! As a matter of fact, they will be gaining money, and so will Sony."
"Square will lose some money if FFU flops, it just will not be as significant as it would if they were developing the game alone."
Actually, no they won't. Nintendo is COMPLETELY funding this project. I'm not sure if they are funding the GBA games or not, though.
"You seem to be missing the other side though, what if the game doesn't flop?"
I'm not saying that it will. I'm just saying what would happen if it did.
"Then Nintendo will make money, along with Square, which if it sold enough, may show Square that the Cube is a good and steady system to develop for, which could mean new games as well as ports of classic games."
But what if it doesn't? Remember, Square is only allowing games on the GameCube mainly because they want to develope for the GBA. They might make more games, but don't get your hopes up.
"But that's not the end! SquareSoft will be making ports of their past popular games! This means Chrono Trigger, Secret of Mana, and more for the GameBoy Advance!!
And after they make a couple of millions from the ports, they will make some new Final Fantasies and maybe even a new series for the Playstation 3!"
"Well, to me, the ports sound like a good idea, I can't take my S/NES everywhere. They could even bring over FF2 and FF3, because we all know that the wonder swan color won't make it here to the States. You say that if Square makes money off of the ports, they will develop new Final Fantasys for the PS 2 or 3. Would they not do that anyway? And, why couldn't they make new series and new games for the Cube as well? "
Mainly because Sony owns 20% of Square, which pretty much ensures that the new series won't be exclusive unless it is on a Sony system. I know 20% isn't enough to keep Square from doing certain things, but it is enough to do that.
"Oh, and did you know that SquareSoft plans to make Final Fantasy Unlimited their new series? Guess who's going to have that franchise exclusively when all of the new systems comes out!
As a matter of fact, I'll even give you a hint. The system begins with a P and rhymes with Glaystation!"
"Again, you must work at Square HQ, or have a very reliable source to know all of this. And if thats the case, I'd like to see it. For you are making some pretty big assumtions my friend."
Well, if you go to a website called GameSpot, then you could read an article about SquareSoft making an offical statement about Final Fantasy Unlimited becoming their new series.
"The way I see it, is you are against the company making money, as well as Sony."
Now who's making big assumptions.
"What does it matter if Square makes more games for the Playstation? If the Cube is getting FF games as well, why do you care?"
I care because I'm an RPG fan who only owns a GCN, and if I do buy FF:U, then I want it to be as good as the PS FFs. And it doesn't matter to me that the PS is getting more FF games.
"I will continue to be content with Nintendo's desicion to allow Square back into the picture, that is until you can give me a good reason why not."
I don't want to. You are a different person than I am.
Okay, now that I'm done. I will try to see all of this from your point of view. So would it be asking too much for you to see this from my point of view?
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