Is Super Mario RPG overrated?

[Reading]

Is the joke too hard to understand? My brother didn't get it at first. >_>

[penguinwizard]

Quoting shows you're replying to something instead of posting something standalone. Standard practice for forums I believe. If it's obvious you're replying to someone, though, then it's not necessary.

Actually, I misunderstood the pic at first by thinking it was assembled. I know the > arrows looked odd being directly below the pictures, that should have tipped me off. I interpreted it as meaning Super Mario RPG > Paper Mario > some Mario and Luigi game > one of the other Paper Mario games > the other Mario and Luigi game > the other Paper Mario game.

I interpret the pic now as "yeah, keep your opinions to yourself, I'm able to figure out which games are better than the others on my own."

It looks like a big production for a simple reply, but we've had that sort of thing before without complaints (replying with a Robotnik picture, replying with a goofy animated image, throwing in Weegee).

[BP]

[The Chef]

I blame Kojinka.

[Zarkanthesmasher]

Attacks that target multiple enemies are included in both games. Whether it's an earthquake or not is irrelevant.
If you didn't bother to learn the timing of defense timed hits, that isn't the game's fault.
If you don't like the writing in SMRPG as much as PM, that's a matter of taste and not something that makes one game better than the other.
I think I've said this before, but I'm of the opinion that it's much more pleasing to do triple-digit damage than to single-digit.
Missing "randomly" in battle is based on accuracy/evade stats. It makes sense to build in a bit of this since the game isn't occurring in realtime.

Sheesh Chupperson, you don't have to get so defensive. I'm only criticizing a game that you just happen to love - it's not like I'm assaulting a close relative of yours or something. >_>

[NintendoExpert89]

Quoting shows you're replying to something instead of posting something standalone. Standard practice for forums I believe. If it's obvious you're replying to someone, though, then it's not necessary.

The only really annoying ones are the quote within a quote within a quote within a quote within a quote posts.

[Reading]

Yes, that's what I made the pic for. "I can decide for myself which games are better than others, so please stop trying to make one game look better as a fact" is the message I was going for. Maybe I should put the game icons on the left and the ">" pieces on the right to make it more easily understood.

[Glitchy]

Is there some epidemic that prevents people from responding to the post directly above theirs without quoting it?  It's really easy to not quote the person before you.  And if someone else posts before you finish typing your own post, the computer will warn you that someone else posted something.

Actually, it's somewhat of a habit for me.

[Chupperson Weird]

Well Zarkan, that's not called "being defensive". I was simply arguing my case, and pointing out the flaws in your argument.

[Fawful Fan]

Zarkanthesmasher, I have to disagree with you 100%.  I feel that Super Mario RPG is not overrated, but Paper Mario is.
Don’t get me wrong.  I remember anxiously waiting for it the moment it was announced.  I couldn’t wait to experience the successor to my favorite game.  But after it came and I completely finished the game in its entirety, I couldn’t help but feel disappointed.  Even in that era of my youth when I would unanimously praise every new Mario game just because it was a Mario game, I had to admit that Paper Mario left a bad taste in my mouth.  Why?  I just feel that Paper Mario is the Yoshi’s Story of the Mario RPGs.
To me, Yoshi’s Story and Paper Mario feel like sequels that take everything that made the original a masterpiece and dumb it down.  This is one of the biggest reasons why I and many others put Super Mario RPG on a higher league over Paper Mario.  Whereas Super Mario RPG kept me challenged as I constantly got Game Overs trying to overcome some of the most epic battles in the Mario series, I simply breezed through Paper Mario effortlessly.  Remember the battles between Domino and Cloaker, Culex, and Jinx?  Paper Mario simply does not compare, especially when the game designers blatantly give you the winning strategy (like when Tubba Blubba’s heart is about to charge up and Bow tells you to use her power to evade).  Heck, remember Grate Guy’s Casino?  That’s probably one of the biggest secrets in a Mario game!  I couldn’t find it until months after I completed the game.  What’s Paper Mario’s equivalent?  The Playroom you encounter within the first two hours of gameplay (and a Toad even tells you something along the lines of “Why don’t you use your HAMMER to smack that TREE over there?!”).
Yeah, so basically I don’t understand why so many critics and fans praise Paper Mario.  I just find the gameplay brainless, like it was made for toddlers.  Every time I hear someone say that Paper Mario is better, I cringe the same way I do when I hear little kids say “Yoshi’s Story is SO MUCH BETTER than Yoshi’s Island!”  Now Zarkanthesmasher, I don’t intend or expect to change your opinion, but this little digression might help you understand why some people consider Super Mario RPG a superior game.

[Silver Metaknight]

SMRPG does have more secrets than Paper Mario, but I found SMRPG to be just as easy if not easier than Paper Mario.  Paper Mario's bosses felt more epic and had way more personality than SMRPG's bosses.  Yoshi's story was a decent game, the only thing that I though was bad about it was the main quest was too short and easy.  Yoshi's Story was more of a high score game than Yoshi's Island.

[Zarkanthesmasher]

Well Zarkan, that's not called "being defensive". I was simply arguing my case, and pointing out the flaws in your argument

I wouldn't call them flaws, just different opinions. The point I was making was that I've noticed how defensive you get when people argue that SMRPG isn't the best mario RPG. This isn't a new thing either - I've seen that in old mailbags (which I do read from time to time), you and David Dayton are on opposite sides of the issue, while Sapphira takes the middle ground. :P

Remember the battles between Domino and Cloaker, Culex, and Jinx?

Jinx and especially Culex's supposed power are also overated. I beat both of them the first time I fought them, the latter using the Star Egg. In fact, there's really no way to lose once you put the Lazy Shell armor on Bowser, as basically every attack except Water Blast gives him one point of damage. Basically, even if your other teammates die, Bowser is invincible.

Heck, remember Grate Guy’s Casino?  That’s probably one of the biggest secrets in a Mario game!  I couldn’t find it until months after I completed the game.

Ah yes, Grate Guy's Casino. How I hate that place. Besides the fact that it's almost impossible to find without a walkthrough or guide, it also has to be one of the monotonous places ever. The only reason I went there is so I could get the Star Egg, and playing 250 rounds of "Look the other way"  to get a special item has to be the stupidest secret ever in a mario game. Not stupid because of the reward, but stupid because it's simply an awful and repetitive minigame. :X

[Chupperson Weird]

If you want the item, you'll play the game. RPGs generally have an element of repetition followed by a reward. Except Paper Mario, that is.
Also I have to say I found Paper Mario not one bit epic. The bosses are mostly small and use a total of two attacks on you.
I have to say though, the best part of Paper Mario is the ice castle, whatever it's called. That area is actually somewhat large and interesting.

Also, Yoshi's Story isn't bad, either.

[N64 Chick]

The Weegee meme is retarded.

I completely agree with that statement.

[MEGAߥTE]

Jinx and especially Culex's supposed power are also overated.

Well it's easy to say that if you're all leveled up, but try fighting Culex at level 16 like I did.  Without the trueform pin.  In Japanese.