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What are your views on homosexuals and/or letting them wed?

I accept them.
51 (66.2%)
I tolerate them.
6 (7.8%)
It's flat out wrong.
7 (9.1%)
I don't really care.
9 (11.7%)
I have mixed views. (Describe)
4 (5.2%)

Total Members Voted: 77

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ShadowBrain

  • Ridiculously relevant
« Reply #120 on: October 01, 2008, 05:20:08 PM »
That's funny, because I distinctly recall various people back-and-forthing with Turtlekid over homosexuality being an inclination or not.
"Mario is your oyster." ~The Chef

CrossEyed7

  • i can make this whatever i want; you're not my dad
« Reply #121 on: October 01, 2008, 05:34:12 PM »
I meant in the way of evidence. Your post made it sound like it was settled, but no one really proved anything.

I could have worded it better. I must be tired.
"Oh man, I wish being a part of a Mario fan community was the most embarrassing thing about my life." - Super-Jesse

Chupperson Weird

  • Not interested.
« Reply #122 on: October 01, 2008, 06:30:36 PM »
If it means that much to you, I'll see if I can find what I read.
That was a joke.

Turtlekid1

  • Tortuga
« Reply #123 on: October 02, 2008, 09:05:48 AM »
Quote from: Insane Steve on October 01, 2008, 09:05:34 AM
@Turtlekid:

What is your opinion on the Westboro Baptist Church? Just curious.

Um... "God Hates [bundle of sticks]s"?  God, being the embodiment of all that is loving and just, does not hate [bundle of sticks]s.  God does hate the sin that gay people practice.  To say God hates a person goes against everything the Bible teaches.
"It'll say life is sacred and so is death
but death is life and so we move on"

Luigison

  • Old Person™
« Reply #124 on: October 02, 2008, 03:54:06 PM »
"These six things doth the Lord HATE: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:  A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,   A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren." - Proverbs 6: 16-19  If taken literally I think it's clear that the God in the Bible hates at least two type of people. 

In PS 5:5, God hates workers of iniquity (i.e. sinners). In Lev.18:22 and.20:13 to lie with mankind (i.e. be homosexual) is an abomination (i.e. sin). Therefore God hates homosexuals.  Or as Rev. Phelps says, "God Hates [bundle of sticks]s".  Again, this is if you take the Bible literally and apply logic to it. 

I don't take the Bible literally or believe it is the inerrant word of God, but I can see where Rev. Phelps gets his idea.  I don't hate homosexuals either.
“Evolution has shaped us with perceptions that allow us to survive. But part of that involves hiding from us the stuff we don’t need to know."

Turtlekid1

  • Tortuga
« Reply #125 on: October 02, 2008, 05:46:12 PM »
1. The word "hate" in both those references can also refer to a foe or enemy of God; "witness" can refer to a testimony, not a person.
2. "To lie" refers to the action of doing something, not the people that do it.
"It'll say life is sacred and so is death
but death is life and so we move on"

Luigison

  • Old Person™
« Reply #126 on: November 01, 2008, 09:24:44 AM »
“Evolution has shaped us with perceptions that allow us to survive. But part of that involves hiding from us the stuff we don’t need to know."

Glorb

  • Banned
« Reply #127 on: November 01, 2008, 11:38:48 AM »
I think that video would've been better if there was a really long awkward pause after the dude said "because straight parents only raise straight children".
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Trainman

  • Bob-Omg
« Reply #128 on: November 01, 2008, 10:39:54 PM »
If I meet a gay person when one of my friends introduces me to them, or someone I know decides they're gay later on in life, then I'm relatively cool with it.... just DON'T HIT ON ME OR I'LL KNOCK YOU OUT. I've never hung out with a gay dude out of school because the only few I knew were just acquaintances. I probably would NEVER hang out with a gay dude because I hate the way they talk stupidly and whatnot half the time and sometimes how they walk or carry purses (read: if they sound/look/act like Chris Crocker. He can burn in the double hockey stick place), but if they act normal, then I'd be cool with it.

I say I'm against same-sex marriage.... well I pretty much am, but I'd prolly be the last guy in the world to be outside with a picket saying "NO SAME SEX" because it's inevitable... as long as Chris Crocker is around ahahaha.
Formerly quite reasonable.

ShadowBrain

  • Ridiculously relevant
« Reply #129 on: November 01, 2008, 10:45:18 PM »
I've got my fair share of gay kids at my school, and kids, don't let porn fool you: Not that many lesbians are very attractive.
"Mario is your oyster." ~The Chef

Glorb

  • Banned
« Reply #130 on: November 01, 2008, 10:56:01 PM »
It's posts like Trainman's that want to make me leave the internet forever.
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ShadowBrain

  • Ridiculously relevant
« Reply #131 on: November 01, 2008, 11:16:09 PM »
To paraphrase Bill Maher: "People are opposing gay marriage because they say it destroys the 'sanctity of marriage'. As if anything you can do half-drunk off your ass in Vegas could be considered sacred."
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BP

  • Beside Pacific
« Reply #132 on: November 01, 2008, 11:31:00 PM »
People who say they they're against homosexuality because they don't like their theoretical sex lives and don't want them to try to tempt them bewilder me. I don't want to know about anyone's sex lives whether they're straight or gay, and womanizers/manizers annoy me no matter who they are. I wouldn't imagine any given gay person's self control being any lower than most people my age. And I mean, are you narcissistic or something to be afraid that you'll be hit on? Really?

I'm starting to think I'm just not sexual at all. I may never start a family, but hey, that means I have my whole life to myself (after I get out of school, climb up the social ladder and start doing what I want to do). That sounds horribly selfish but that's the kind of life I want: mine.

A final note, that video was fantastic. I'm so bad at debating in person. Even when I know the person I'm talking to is a misguided cultist, I get all shaky and nervous and forget everything important I'm going to say.
All your dreeeeeeams begiiin to shatterrrrrr~
It's YOUR problem!

ShadowBrain

  • Ridiculously relevant
« Reply #133 on: November 01, 2008, 11:39:51 PM »
Quote from: Bird Person on November 01, 2008, 11:31:00 PM
I'm starting to think I'm just not sexual at all. I may never start a family, but hey, that means I have my whole life to myself (after I get out of school, climb up the social ladder and start doing what I want to do). That sounds horribly selfish but that's the kind of life I want: mine.
Let it be known that we both agree on at least one thing.
"Mario is your oyster." ~The Chef

Markio

  • Normal
« Reply #134 on: November 01, 2008, 11:44:41 PM »
I thought the video was funny, at least.  I showed my Conservative roommate, and he would still vote yes on prop 8; but we're still friends, because friendship transcends sexual orientation.  I'm also in the closet, though!

Trainman, the "gay voice" isn't an affectation, people can't help speaking like that.  And not all gay people carry purses, nor do no straight men do that.  I don't walk or talk gayly, nor do I carry purses.
"Hello Kitty is cool, but I like Keroppi the best."
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