Smash Bros. Melee 2

[VorceBlade]

All the previous characters return +

Wario
Wart (hey what the heck, while i'm at it, how bout Tatanga too)
Hitmonlee/Hitmonchan? Anyone?

but not

Waluigi (please no!)
Ridley (Whats the point? He'd just fly to unreachable heights)
Kraid (Too big)

They should have special event matches of special modes which let you play as (but not have as normally playable characters)

Master Hand
Andross
Andross/brain
Kraid
Ridley
Master Head?

[Master Mario]

The characters could have their own adventure modes. like for instance, Link will go through a stepped up version of Zelda II with his moves from SSBM. As with Mario in Super Mario Bros. As with Kirby (he gets his own abilities in this one!) in uh, a Kirby game. As with Samus and Metroid, and Captain Falcon in F-Zero and Peach in Tetris (Kind of a survival not to get squished...)

TMK rocks!!!!!!!!!

[gamemaster79]

I agree with each character having a unique adventure mode.

Ridley and Kraid could easily be in it. Both have "miniatue" sizes, like from the original Metroid.

Also, instead of clones they should just put in them as alternate costumes, like Mario and Doc Mario. Ganondorf I'm sure could have easily been given some unique moves rather than have copied Captain Falcon. And who was that guy in the black suit called? He was in F-Zero X and F-Zero GT. Adeline may be small, but so is Kirby and Ness.

Here are some possible alt costumes:
Mario > Dr. Mario
Kirby > Waddle Dee
Link > Young Link

I think they should have a Stamina Mode like in Melee, but you should be able to set how much Stamina each player has. There could also be an event mode match maker where you could make your very own event matches, or in versus mode you should be able to costamize thing, like give each individual character their own number of lives rather than everyone have the same amount.

There should also be an Old School mode where you play as the characters in their old 8-bit forms (if they have one.) Wouldn't that be cool!!! And the characters' sprites should be the same as their old form and the stages for it should be Old School stages set up in their 8-bit formats.
Mario, Link, Samus, DK, many of the characters could do it! Even Ganondorf, like he could be Ganon instead.

[gamemaster79]

To continue off my last post...

I think that the stage select could be made into a world map with each area labeled respectively, like to the north you could have "Infinity Glacier" and even farther north there is outer space with places like "Planet Zebes", "Lylat System", and "Dream Land". There would then be a cursor and you move it over the area which should have each stage in it, and you select the stage you want.

Also, if there wasn't a character-unique adventure mode, each character could at least have a unique end boss, like some body said in an earlier post.
Mario Team - Bowser
Bowser - Mario or maybe even Giga Bowser
Samus - Ridley, or a giant Kraid
Fox Team - Andross
etc., etc.

Like my ideas ^_^

EDIT: I saw this on another message board, and I though it was brilliant! There should be Tom Nook store (run, of course, by the racoon himslef) where you can buy certain items. Here is my look on it:
You could buy...
New Characters -- They should appear blacked out and fuzzied and once you purchase them you have to fight the character.
New Stages -- They don't need to be fuzzied out
Trophies -- There should be trophies for sale that you can only find at his store
Costumes -- self-explanatory
Special In-game Features -- self-explanatory
New Game Modes -- ""
You should be able to buy the stuff using the coins you earn in the various game modes. Is that a cool idea or what?!?!?!?!

Edited by - gamemaster79 on 2/16/2005 8:44:53 PM

[Luigison]

NO!  Samus should fight Master Chief.  Meh.

[Lakipea]

No one mentioned about any EarthBound characters. Paula should be sort of a combination of Zelda and Ness.
Up+B a shorter, slower, and stronger version of PK Thunder

Smash+B: PSI Freeze: kinda like the Ice Climber's Down+B move except it is used many times at the same time

Down+B: PSI Shield : A counter attack type of move, like Roy.

B: PK Flash: like Ness'

Stages: The Moon where Yoshi battled Raphael Raven: It would be cool if there was a stage where it was an only circle.

I do think characters from other companys should be in the game.

Think about it. Youre fighting Saumus, Peach, and Mario when suddenly Sonic busts in. Also
Sweet Tooth from Twisted Metal, Jak and Daxter, and Ratchet and Clank follow him and a big company war starts.
Don't you think that is cool?

"Look, It''''s the american computer monkey. Dance, monkey, dance!

[Suffix]

"Would be." I really don't think that would be a good idea. It would cost millions to buy the rights from so many companies...

[gamemaster79]

I think that Y or X should be made into another special move. Also, the "appearances" should return from Super Smash Bros. (by appearences, I mean: every character in SSB had a special appearence that they did when they entered the arena. For example, for Mario and Luigi, a tube would grow and they would jump out of it, or for Pikachu a Poke Ball would appear out of nowhere and they would appear from it.) I got a list of moves for a good bunch of characters that could be in SSB3. For some I have little to no knowledge about, so their moves would be blank. Also, not all of them have some of the moves listed for them. Here is the list I compiled:

::Mario Team::
Mario
-B: Fireball
->B: Cape
-^B: Super Jump Punch
-vB: Mario Tornado
-Y: Ground Pound
-Shield: Giant Fireball
-Taunt: Grows to Super Mushroom size then shrinks back to normal
=Appearance: Pipe grows and jumps out

Peach
-B: Toad
->B: Peach Bomber
-^B: Peach Parasol
-vB:  Turnip
-Y: Sparky Sticker
-Shield: Parasol
-Taunt: Does a 360 degree turn, winks and says “Sweet!”
=Appearance: Floats down on a parasol

Bowser
-B: Fire Breath
->B: Koopa Claw
-^B: Whirling Fortress
-vB: Bowser Bomb
-Y: Stage Rocker
-Shield: Hides in shell
-Taunt: Looks to the sky and roars while turning head
=Appearance: Jumps in from the bottom of the screen, like in Super Mario 64

Luigi
-B: Fireball
->B: Green Missile
-^B: Super Jump Punch
-vB: Poltergust 3000
-Y: Karibo’s Boot
-Shield: Hides in Karibo’s Boot
-Taunt: Looks at the ground and lightly kicks one foot
=Appearance: Pipe grows and jumps out

Wario
-B: Apple Wario
->B: Horn Helmet
-^B: Jetpack Hat
-vB: Wario Spring
-Y: Zombie Wario
-Shield: Turns into puffy Wario
-Taunt: Twists his arm around while laughing, similar to in Mario Party
=Appearance:

Yoshi
-B: Tongue
->B: Egg Roll
-^B: Egg Toss*
-vB: Yoshi Bomb
-Y: White Shy Guy
-Shield: Hides in egg
-Taunt: Looks at screen, jumps up and down while saying “Yoshi”
=Appearance: Egg appears then breaks open
*NOT used for third jump to return to stage

::Zelda Team::
Link
-B: Bow & Arrow (Fire Bow if Young Link)
->B: Boomerang
-^B: Sword Spin
-vB: Bomb
-Y:
-Shield: Uses Hylian shield
-Taunt: Straightens body, pushes hair back with hand and grunts
=Appearance: From The Four Swords, the portal that leads Link to the shadow world appears

Zelda
-B: Nayru’s Love
->B: Din’s Fire
-^B: Farore’s Wind
-Y:
-Shield: Uses a magical shield around herself
-Taunt:
-vB: Transform
*
-vB: Transform
-B: Needle Storm
->B: Chain Whip
-^B: Smoke Grenade
-Y:
-Shield: Uses advanced reflexes
-Taunt: Straightens body and does a tense pose
=Appearance: Teleports into stage

Ganondorf
-B:
->B:
-^B:
-vB:
-Y:
-Shield:
-Taunt:
=Appearance:

Goron
-B: Bomb Flower
->B: Roll
-^B: Goron Spin Drop
-vB: Royal Dance
-Y:
-Shield: Rolls up in a protective bomb flower
-Taunt: Looks up to the sky, puts hand on hips and laughs
=Appearance: Bomb flower grows and Goron explodes out

::DK Team::
DK (Donkey Kong series)
-B: Giatn Punch
->B: Headbutt
-^B: Spinning Kong
-vB: Hand Slap
-Y:
-Shield: Hides in a DK barrel
-Taunt: Looks towards screen and shrugs while grunting
=Appearance: DK barrel appears and breaks open

Diddy (Donkey Kong series)
-B: Tail Slam
->B: Banana Bash
-^B: Helicopter
-vB: Orange Bomb
-Y:
-Shield: Hides in a DK barrel
-Taunt:
=Appearance: DK barrel appears and breaks open

Dixie (Donkey Kong Contry 2: Diddy Kong's Quest)
-B: Hair Slam
->B: Hair Spin
-^B: Hair Helicopter
-vB: Shrink
-Y:
-Shield: Hides in a DK barrel
-Taunt:
=Appearance: DK barrel appears and breaks open

King K. Rool (Donkey Kong series)
-B: Crown Chuck
->B: Box
-^B: Kremlin Jump
-vB: Crown Ram
-Y:
-Shield:
-Taunt:
=Appearance:

::Samus Team::
Samus (Metroid Series)
-B: Charge Shot
->B: Missile
-^B: Screw Attack
-vB: Bomb
-Y:
-Shield: Uses a generated shield
-Taunt: :
=Appearance: An elevator appears and walks out

Ridley (Metroid Series)
-B: Missile
->B: Super Charge
-^B: Grabbed Flight
-vB: Heat Breath
-Y:
-Shield: Blocks all attacks with wings
-Taunt:
=Appearance: Starts from invisible state and appears

Kraid (Metroid Series)
-B: Big Teeth
->B: Kraid’s Swipe
-^B: Kraid’s Jump
-vB: Belly Missile
-Y:
-Shield:
-Taunt:
=Appearance: Grows in from stage

Gold Chozo (Relates to Super Metroid)
-B: Chozo Whack
->B: Beam
-^B: Screw Attack
-vB: Projectile Grab:
-Shield: Becomes a normal, stone Chozo statue
-Taunt:
-A+B:
=Appearance: Normal stone Chozo statue appears and then cracks to form the gold Chozo

::Fox Team::
Fox (Star Fox)
-B: Blaster
->B: Fox Illusion
-^B: Fire Fox
-vB: Reflector
-Y:
-Shield: An advanced reflector
-Taunt:
=Appearance: Flies in from an arwing

Falco (Star Fox)
-B: Blaster
->B: Bomb
-^B: Barrel Roll
-vB: Moving Reflector
-Y:
-Shield: An advanced reflector
-Taunt:
=Appearance: Flies in from an arwing

Tricky (Star Fox Adventures)
-B: Horn
->B: Ball
-^B: Unseen Charge
-vB: Gate Keep
-Y:
-Shield: Hides in a gate
-Taunt:
=Appearance: Appears from a gate portal

Krystal (Star Fox Adventures)
-B: Krazoa Staff
->B: Fire Shot
-^B: Levitate
-vB: Krazoa Spirit
-Y:
-Shield: Krazoa spirits protect her
-Taunt:
=Appearance: Appears through Krazoa Spirits

::Kirby Team::
Kirby (Kirby series)
-B: Swallow
->B: Hammer
-^B: Final Cutter
-vB: Stone
-Y:
-Shield: Turns into rock Kirby
-Taunt:
=Appearance: Crashes in from a warp star

Meta-Knight (Kirby's Adventure)
-B: Super Slash
->B: Dash Sword
-^B: Final Cutter II
-vB: Fall Sword
-Y:
-Shield: Blocks attacks with sword
-Taunt:
=Appearance:

King Dedede (Kirby series)
-B: Hammer Charge
->B: Hammer
-^B: Slam Jump
-vB: Star Hammer
-Y:
-Shield: Puffs up
-Taunt:
=Appearance: Crashes into stage with hammer

Adeline (I honestly don't know what Kirby game she originated from)
-B: Paint Over
->B: Spider
-^B: Flying Eye
-vB: Ice Monster
-Y:
-Shield: Paints a shield and uses it
-Taunt:
=Appearance: Paints herself into the stage

::Pokémon::
Pikachu
-B: Thunder Jolt
->B: Skull Bash
-^B: Quick Attack
-vB: Thunder
-Y:
-Shield: Hides in a Poké ball
-Taunt:
=Appearance: Appears from a thrown Poké ball

Jigglypuff
-B: Rollout
->B: Pound
-^B: Sing
-vB: Rest
-Y:
-Shield: Hides in a Poké ball
-Taunt:
=Appearance: Appears from a thrown Poké ball

Mewtwo
-B: Shadow Ball
->B: Confusion
-^B: Teleport
-vB: Disable
-Y:
-Shield: Uses a psychic shield
-Taunt:
=Appearance: Teleports into stage

Red (a.k.a. Ash)
-B: Pokéball
->B: Squirtle
-^B: Pidgeot
-vB: Typhlosion
-Y:
-Shield: Hypno comes and creates a shield
-Taunt:
=Appearance: Walks into stage from stairs

Celebi (Pokemon Gold/Silver/Crystal)
-B: Psychic
->B: Razor Leaf
-^B: Teleport
-vB: Confuse Ray
-Y:
-Shield: Uses a psychic shield
-Taunt:
=Appearance: Teleports into stage

Deoxys (Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald)
-B: Psychic
->B: Psycho Boost
-^B: Teleport
-vB: Mirror Coat
-Y:
-Shield: Uses a psychic shield
-Taunt:
=Appearance: Forms from stage

::F-Zero Team::
Captain Falcon (F-Zero)
-B: Falcon Punch
->B: Raptor Boost
-^B: Falcon Dive
-vB: Falcon Kick
-Y:
-Shield: Uses some hidden speed to avoid all attacks
-Taunt:
=Appearance: Flies in from Blue Falcon

Samurai Goroh (F-Zero)
-B: Samurai Slash
->B: Samurai Stab
-^B: Sword Spin
-vB: Samurai Turn
-Y:
-Shield: Blocks attacks with sword
-Taunt:
=Appearance: Flies in from own ship

Pico (F-Zero)
-B:
->B:
-^B:
-vB:
-Y:
-Shield:
-Taunt:
=Appearance: Flies in from own ship

Black Shadow (F-Zero X)
-B:
->B:
-^B:
-vB:
-Y:
-Shield:
-Taunt:
=Appearance: Flies in from own ship

::Ness Team:: (all from Earthbound)
Ness
-B: PK Flash
->B: PK Fire
-^B: PK Thunder
-vB: PK Magnet
-Y: PK Rockin’
-Shield: Uses a Psi Shield
-Taunt: Looks at screen and bows while saying “OK”
=Appearance: Crashes into stage and shakes ashes away

Paula
-B: Freeze
->B: PK Fire
-^B: PK Thunder
-vB: Sheet Lightening
-Y: PK Healing
-Shield: Uses a Psi Shield
-Taunt: Twirls around, looks at the screen and a Mr. Saturn appears atop her head and then goes away
=Appearance: Crashes into stage and shakes ashes away

Jeff
-B: Shield Killer
->B: Slime Generator
-^B: Bubble Gum Monkey
-vB: Heavy Bazooka
-Y: Gaia Beam
-Shield: Uses a shield generated from a special weapon
-Taunt: Stands ups straight and twirls a gun award as his glasses shine
=Appearance: Flies in from the flying machine created by Professor Andonuts

Poo
-B: PK Brainshock
->B: PK Starstorm
-^B: PK Teleport Beta
-vB: PK Paralysis
-Y: PK Lifeup
-Shield: Uses a Psi Shield
-Taunt: Slowly bows and when bent over all the way causes a spark to appear from his hand
=Appearance: Crashes into stage and shakes ashes away

::Ice Climber Team::
Ice Climbers (Ice Climber)
-B: Ice Shot
->B: Squall Hammer
-^B: Belay
-vB: Blizzard
-Y:
-Shield: Hides in an icy shield
-Taunt:
=Appearance: Belay into stage

Topi (Ice Climber)
-B: Ice Shot
->B: Strong Slide
-^B: Topi Flip
-vB: Ice Breaker
-Y:
-Shield: Hides in an icy shield
-Taunt:
=Appearance: Falls and slides into stage

::Fire Emblem::
Marth
-B:
->B:
-^B:
-vB:
-Y:
-Shield:
-Taunt:
=Appearance:

Roy
-B:
->B:
-^B:
-vB:
-Y:
-Shield:
-Taunt:
=Appearance:

???
-B:
->B:
-^B:
-vB:
-Y:
-Shield:
-Taunt:
=Appearance:

???
-B:
->B:
-^B:
-vB:
-Y:
-Shield:
-Taunt:
=Appearance:

::Misc. Set::
Mr. Game & Watch (Game & Watch series)
-B: Chef
->B: Judgement
-^B: Fire
-vB: Oil Panic
-Y: Alarm
-Shield: Turns into a black, low graphic blob
-Taunt: Rings his alarm
=Appearance: Game & Watch appears and walks out

Sheriff (Sheriff)
-B: Cork Gun
->B: Shot Gun
-^B: Revolver Aim
-vB: Cap Gun
-Y:
-Shield: Turns into a white, low graphic blob
-Taunt:
=Appearance: “Digitalized” into stage

Pit (Kid Icarus)
-B: Sacred Bow
->B: Protective Crystal
-^B: Fly
-vB: Fire
-Y:
-Shield:
-Taunt:
=Appearance:

Bubbles (Clu Clu Land)
-B: Beam
->B: Crush
-^B: Air Bounce
-vB: Monster
-Y:
-Shield: Rolls up into a protective ball
-Taunt:
=Appearance: Swings in from poles

Balloon Fighter (Ballon Fight)
-B: Flipper
->B: Balloon Ram
-^B: Float
-vB: Pop
-Y:
-Shield: Holds a giant flipper in hand
-Taunt:
=Appearance: Flies into stage

Captain Olimer (Pikmin)
-B: Red Pikmin
->B: Purple Pikmin
-^B: Yellow Pikmin
-vB: White Pikmin
-Y:
-Shield: Pikmin form a shield around Olimer
-Taunt:
=Appearance: S.S. Dolphin flies in and beams Olimer down

Sound good?!?! (I know I like to dream semi-big... i guess)

[Luigi #98]

characters:
Megaman(too bad he's capcom)
they might keep the marth and roy characters
Koopas green shell and red
Boshi
Birdo
Chain chomp:
>B: stampede
down b: body slam
b: chomp
^b: Diving bite
mastamario(what game is he in?)
Wario and his bro
daisy
geno
Ganon
C.Falcon
Luigi
boo
shyguy
toad
fludd
E.gadd(creator of fludd and vaccum)
^b: laser gun
>B: fludd
vb: vaccum (uses push instead of suck to blow them away. The grab would probably be where he sucks them in the vaccum.)
b: wrench(whacks'em with it)
man he sounds kinda cool
That's it for the secret characters.
The arenas:
Inside both castles(bowser and peach)
K.krool's ship
inside the great fox(star fox's ship)
science lab( you're shrunk into a test tube (won't be tiny melee but in can be in the special melee options) inside E.gadds lab while he expirements on you.(kinda like the bimstar level in the first one where that reptile makes the arena flip but this time e.gadd does damage to ya by expirements like pulling you out with tweezers to observe you but that'd be instant death because it pulls you out of the arena))
And all the regular characters. I'll try to name more stages later but I need a break first.

[Jman]

I think a delightfully fun, and somewhat cheap feature would be "outside interference."  Think about it...you're Luigi about to beat Mario, when suddenly, Link comes from off the screen and enters the playing floor.  You either knock him off, or he double teams with Mario to rob you of the match!  Or, if things get really cheap, someone interferes in your favor and helps you beat up Mario and Link!

That would be pretty cool!  It would turn into a tag match, but with two characters that aren't supposed to be there.

I''ve said my piece, now I''m off to some hardcore SSBM action!

[Diddy Konga]

I think changing final bosses in Adventure mode would be cool. For instance, playing thruogh as Samus, instead of fighting Bowser, you fight Ridely.
Anyone from the Mario series (including yoshi) will fight Bowser. I might add a lis later.

[Latias Dita]

I know this is highly unlikely (and I believe I've said this before), but I think it would be really cool to have Tales of Symphonia characters in the next SSM. I don't care if it's only Lloyd, it's still be great. Everyone could be in it, except for Raine I guess.  Here's how I think each character would be.

Lloyd
B: Demon Fang
>B: Beast
^B: Rising Falcon
vB: Sword Rain
Taunt:  Pulls back swords and says "Come on, bring it!"

Colette
B: Pow Hammer
>B Ray Thrust
^B: Fly (wings come out and she flies up)
vB: Ring Whirlwind
Taunt: Points with right arms and says "I won't lose to the likes of you!"

Genis
B: Fire Ball
>B: Rock Blast
^B: Cyclone (it would blow him up into the air)
>B: Icicle
Taunt: Holds out left arms and bobs head while saying  "So, so sad!"

Sheena
B: Pyre Seal
>B: Summon: Fire
^B: Summon: Wind
vB: Summon: Water
Taunt: Waves cards in front of face and says "Whatsa matter? Afraid?"

Kratos
B: Hurricane Thrust
>B: Victory Light Spear
^B: Fly (like Colette. I nearly forgot he is an angel).
vB: Demon Spear
Taunt: Uh? What does his taunt looks like?

Zelos
B:  Super Sonic Thrust
>B: Light Spear Cannon
^B: Hell Pyre
VB: Super Lightening Blade
Taunt: Swings sword up, saying "Come and get some" then points it forward.

Presea
B: Punishment
>B: Destruction
^B: Devastation
VB Infliction
Taunt: Stands still for a while, then shakes head and says "Stupid!"

Regal
B: Crescent Moon
>B: Spin Kick
^B: Rising Dragon
VB: Swallow Kick
Taunt: Turns a bit, flexes arms while saying :"Think you can beat me?"

 Random Anime Quote:
" If you keep punching holes in the definition of death, you''re going to be dissected for real one of these days!"--Excel Excel. Excel Saga episode 12.

Edited by - Latias Dita on 5/31/2005 4:59:09 PM

[gamemaster79]

Since this topic is already bumped up, I'll post again.

I'm sure many people already know this, but some I'm sure don't

Super Smash Bros. 3 has been confirmed!!!!!!!!!!!! Yay! *Que Stars and Stripes Forever* Iwata said that it will be a launch title for the Rev and will be able to go online!

[HolyAarom]

Cool! I like the idea of ToS characters in the game.

I like strawberry milk