I still don't understand why Turtlekid thinks that he can be an evil jerk if no one's looking. And I also don't get why he doesn't understand the principle of the golden rule. I mean, do you want to be robbed? Do you want to be killed? No? Then why would you do it to someone else?
Because I can do it without consequences. If no one sees me or ever finds out, and if there are no consequences, why the heck shouldn't I live however I want? After all, there's no Heaven or Hell, so I should just live for the experiences in the here and now; and I'm not going to be pinned down by silly old rules that other people live by. If other people want to restrict themselves with foolish morals, that's their choice.
The "moral standard" is perfectly maintained by the golden rule.
More like "expressed by the Golden Rule," but whatever.
Dude, you are making this $#*@ up. No one else thinks that way. You either have such a skewed understanding of society as to be completely unrecognizable, or you are just trying to create situations that you think help your argument.
Lots of people think that way. They're called criminals, and they're the ones living right if there's no God.
I can see that your mind is twisted though by your repeated mention of "consequences". Why do you only want to do the right thing if it gets you into heaven? Why not do the right thing simply because it is the right thing to do? Someone truly "moral" wouldn't be doing things simply to be rewarded later. That's completely missing the point and I think God would be very disappointed in you.
Seriously, does no one understand that I really do not think in terms of consequences?
I don't do the right thing "to get into Heaven." Any consistent
atheist, on the other hand, has no reason to respect any moral rules.
To recap: Consequences don't make something right or wrong! They are simply a byproduct of your actions. Thus I ask you again, would it be wrong to kill you if I felt like it and I knew no one would know or care? Of course. Even if you have the mentality of a totally backwards and sickening troll. I don't want to be killed and think it would be wrong to be killed, so logically I must conclude that other people don't want to be killed either.
Screw what other people want. If there's only one life to live; if this is it; if this is all you get, then you can't afford to consider what everyone else wants. You've gotta live for you and only for you. If there's no one to establish a moral code, how can you say that it's morally wrong to kill me in cold blood? You can't. What's to say someone's desire to not be killed is more valid than my desire to kill them?