Author Topic: SPM Character Discussion (Read 10314 times)

The Blue Toad · « **on:** April 27, 2007, 08:37:59 PM »

When playing Super Paper Mario I can safely say that I was not disappointed by the colorful plethora of characters that made their appearances. Sure, I had by doubts while viewing the early game previews (seeing nothing but side-scrolling action), but I couldn't have been farther from the truth by blatantly deciding that the Paper Mario originality that we have enjoyed throughout the years was gone.
Additions in the Paper Mario cast, including (OMG TOTAL SPOILERZ!) Dimentio, Mimi, O'Chucks, etc. (you can open your eyes now.) provided more than enough humor and enjoyment to the already genial game.
In this topic I want to allow various members of TMK to express opinions (including critiques) on the characters in Super Paper Mario. Who was your favorite addition? What did you think of the individual dialects pertaining to each person? Did you think that any character came off as almost insulting? What quotes did you like?

As for me, (obvious spoilers ups aheads) I though that Dimentio sprinkled a sort of Victorian humor into the game (speaking with a profuse vocabulary and using florid analogies) and overall proved to be a wonderfully mind-boggling antagonist! I also loved his theme music (sounding sort of French, and filled with panache).
He said something before fighting Luigi that qualifies as being one of my favorite quotes in the game: "And so I strike, like an unseen dodgeball in an echoing gymnasium!"

But, that's just me.

Boo Dudley · « **Reply #1 on:** April 27, 2007, 09:14:27 PM »

I liked the Cragnons. "Crag not littering. Crag returning trash to the earth where It came from."
The spirits in underwhere where alright too. "I did a mid-air swirve and land in the bottomless pit." we've all been there and done that.

First post.. woo!

Chris · « **Reply #2 on:** April 27, 2007, 09:21:33 PM »

I loved Count Bleck. He was such a a likeable character, bent on destroying every world or not.

MaxVance · « **Reply #3 on:** April 27, 2007, 09:33:22 PM »

I liked a lot of the Sammer Guys. (Keep an eye out for the Sammer Guy at gate 69.)

Boo Dudley · « **Reply #4 on:** April 27, 2007, 09:40:35 PM »

sammer guy showdown... funny stuff. "I am the yellow cape WOOSH".

Toad · « **Reply #5 on:** April 27, 2007, 10:02:01 PM »

Quote from: The Blue Toad on April 27, 2007, 08:37:59 PM

(OMG TOTAL SPOILERZ!) Dimentio, Mimi, O'Chucks, etc. (you can open your eyes now.)

Pardon my slight off topicness, but if they closed thier eyes to not read the spoilers, how would they know to open their eyes again.

I didn't like Dimentio all that much. He just talked like Fawful would if he spoke in proper English (not to say the lines weren't funny, though).

SPM was a good game, but I really dont' think there was enough character development. Dimentio says I have one more suprise for you during one of the final moments of the game, but he doesn't deliver. Nothing happened. He just got out of his giant robot/Luigi thing and disappeared. I was expecting a real final fight, but instead, Bleck ended the game in a rather disappointing way, though I am glad Bleck and Tippi got back together (massive spoilers behind this one. Do not read if you do not want massive spoilers.)

MaxVance · « **Reply #6 on:** April 27, 2007, 10:05:13 PM »

Quote from: Toad on April 27, 2007, 10:02:01 PM

I didn't like Dimentio all that much. He just talked like Fawful would if he spoke in proper English (not to say the lines weren't funny, though).

That's funny, Dimentio did remind me of Fawful a few times. I liked Dimentio, though. I had trusted him when he first asks if you want to help him stop Count Bleck.

NintendoExpert89 · « **Reply #7 on:** April 28, 2007, 05:08:58 AM »

Mimi was one of my favorite characters. Her spider-transformation was always awesome.
"Mimimimimimi!"

The Blue Toad · « **Reply #8 on:** April 28, 2007, 07:58:09 PM »

Haha, I agree. Mimi also changed her outfit for practically every cut scene. I'm not sure if that's ever been done before in a Mario game... though I could be wrong.

I have to bring up Francis, the nerdy chamelion. He's simply too hilarious a character to leave out. Nintendo was almost making fun of their own fanbase through Francis XD. It was, of course, all in good fun and not meant to offend anybody, but I can't help but think that there's some poor, anime-loving, butterfly-catching kid out there who's writing angry letters to Nintendo.

Quote from: Toad on April 27, 2007, 10:02:01 PM

Pardon my slight off topicness, but if they closed thier eyes to not read the spoilers, how would they know to open their eyes again.

Haha, I wasn't being literal. It was a miserable attempt at making satire out of how serious people get over "spoilers". Yeahhh.... By the way, there are spoilers in this post. :D

NintendoExpert89 · « **Reply #9 on:** April 28, 2007, 08:28:12 PM »

Quote from: Toad on April 27, 2007, 10:02:01 PM

He just talked like Fawful would if he spoke in proper English

That might be because the same (English text) writer worked on both games. And Dimentio had some great lines:
"Here I am suddenly, like a windstorm at a kindergarten pinic!" XD

ShadowBrain · « **Reply #10 on:** April 29, 2007, 11:44:09 AM »

It's really hard to pick which character(s) I love the best, but I think the over-the-top Sammer Guys and their weird Nintendo references for names take the cake (I can only get to about Guy #40-something...).

Honestly, I think the Paper Mario references in Francis's secret room(s) were a little much.

...Oh, and Dimentio was delightfully psychotic. He reminded me of Zant from Twilight Princess in terms of attitude and that part where you chase him through different levels.

MaxVance · « **Reply #11 on:** April 29, 2007, 12:02:23 PM »

Quote from: ShadowBrain on April 29, 2007, 11:44:09 AM

Honestly, I think the Paper Mario references in Francis's secret room(s) were a little much.

If you think that's a lot, try completing the Flopside Pit of 100 Trials.

NintendoExpert89 · « **Reply #12 on:** April 29, 2007, 02:26:16 PM »

Or completing the Duel of 100. Both my mom and I really like Count Bleck, as he's really dastardly. Now that I think of it (and on an unrelated note) the setting for the final chapter strongly reminds me of the NES version of World 8-1 in SMB3.

Deezer · « **Reply #13 on:** May 30, 2007, 04:07:57 PM »

Just beat this game. Now I'm working on maps and then I'll tackle the Pit of 100 Trials.

The Cragnons ruled, brah.

Metric · « **Reply #14 on:** May 30, 2007, 09:04:07 PM »

I don't like the characters... I'd prefer if they transferred the Paper Mario series to the normal Mario Universe, keeping Luigi, Peach, Bowser, etc. as allies and stop adding random friendly-enemies for team mates, and no new bosses, just like giant wigglers or giant bob-ombs. I didn't like the dialog either... except the Sammerguys, and some others that were almost poetic. I think the addition of Francis and the use of video game and interweb lingo was a cheap gimmick though. Overall I thought the game had great game play though, and enjoyed it. Done before I go even more off topic.

Mr. Wiggles · « **Reply #15 on:** May 31, 2007, 06:26:49 PM »

I prefered the villains over the allies in this game. Mimi was too adorably evil, Dimentio ruled, and O'Chunks was you're stereotypical musclehead with a foreign accent. What was it, scottish, irish, austrian?

I would've liked it if the connection between Count Bleck and Tippi didn't become completely obvious halfway through the game.

Oh, and the retconned Merl-people bugged me too.

MaxVance · « **Reply #16 on:** May 31, 2007, 06:35:48 PM »

Scottish.

BP · « **Reply #17 on:** May 31, 2007, 09:56:49 PM »

Well, in The Thousand-Year Door, it was made known what the treasure beyond the door really was after Chapter 4 (halfway through).

GiftedGirl · « **Reply #18 on:** June 02, 2007, 05:29:15 PM »

I love Count Bleck. He's so awesome. I mean, he narrates his own dialogue and wears a cape and a monacle. How cool is that??? Pretty darn cool, in my opinion.

Kojinka · « **Reply #19 on:** June 04, 2007, 11:03:09 AM »

Agreed, says Kojinka.

Toad · « **Reply #20 on:** June 04, 2007, 02:00:56 PM »

Quote from: Mr. Wiggles on May 31, 2007, 06:26:49 PM

Oh, and the retconned Merl-people bugged me too.

I have confusion by this statement.. what do you mean by the retconned?

GiftedGirl · « **Reply #21 on:** June 04, 2007, 07:36:21 PM »

Merpeople are awesome. ... Oh wait. Merl-people. DANG IT.

BP · « **Reply #22 on:** June 04, 2007, 08:31:41 PM »

...
The reason there are many Merlons and Merlees and Merluvlees throughout the Paper Mario series was explained in The Thousand-Year Door: Wonky tells you that there are specific occupations one can take and your name will reflect that. Merlon is the only one whose job has varied in the series, unless you count that Merluvlee didn't tell you what to do next in Paper Mario... and that she doesn't tell you where to look for things like Star Pieces in Super Paper Mario. I thought it was great that Merlee got to be important to the plot in SPM. The more you play Chapter Two, the more naturally rhymes will come to you... see? Look at me; I'm typing just like Merlee. Better click "Post" before I annoy someone who will turn me into toast...

GiftedGirl · « **Reply #23 on:** June 05, 2007, 09:16:31 AM »

*turns Bird Person into toast* Mmm, yummy. :D

raistuumum · « **Reply #24 on:** June 09, 2007, 11:18:44 PM »

I think they should have gave more personality for each of the Pixls, but other than that, I'd say all of the characters are pretty memorable.

GiftedGirl · « **Reply #25 on:** June 13, 2007, 05:59:12 PM »

I think O'Chunks is in love with Nastasia. *giggle*

ShadowBrain · « **Reply #26 on:** June 16, 2007, 10:06:24 AM »

Quote

Well, in The Thousand-Year Door, it was made known what the treasure beyond the door really was after Chapter 4 (halfway through).

When was that, again?

NintendoExpert89 · « **Reply #27 on:** June 16, 2007, 11:59:30 AM »

During the "quiz" with TEC.

SushieBoy · « **Reply #28 on:** June 16, 2007, 02:25:42 PM »

It always made me wonder, how did Peach know that? was she hiding something?

NintendoExpert89 · « **Reply #29 on:** June 16, 2007, 04:11:46 PM »

Well, if you know it or not, the answer stuck out like a sore thumb compared to the other two options.

BP · « **Reply #30 on:** June 16, 2007, 09:21:19 PM »

Like there'd really be 100,000,000 coins or a badge behind the door...
Alos, process of elimination. There was no gorge of eternal peril in the X-Naut Fortress, so she gets another chance if she answers wrong.
Also, she doesn't answer the questions--YOU do. So... SushieBoy, what else are you hiding from us?

Toad · « **Reply #31 on:** June 16, 2007, 11:57:01 PM »

Quote from: NintendoExpert89 on June 16, 2007, 04:11:46 PM

Well, if you know it or not, the answer stuck out like a sore thumb compared to the other two options.

I thought there were four options..?

Wiiario · « **Reply #32 on:** June 23, 2007, 08:59:52 PM »

Ok i have to say this about Count Bleck, and i know some people r going to know this but Count Bleck after he gets the dark protaganis, (i dont know how to spell it) did anyone notice how he talk like a book on tape, or a third person, example : "So be it, says Count Bleck!" that is kinda werid. i liked it but it was werid.

Oh and the funnest character in the game ... MR. L! "Just because your red doesn't mean your strong! Have at you!". That guy though ... who is he?

Area 64 · « **Reply #33 on:** June 23, 2007, 09:38:12 PM »

Yeah, that "discussion" is pretty tired now.

ShadowBrain · « **Reply #34 on:** June 24, 2007, 09:58:41 AM »

The whole Count Bleck backstory smelled strongly of Star Wars, but I think they still pulled it off pretty well.

GiftedGirl · « **Reply #35 on:** June 26, 2007, 03:37:19 PM »

Star Wars? Yeah right.

The Blue Toad · « **Reply #36 on:** June 26, 2007, 05:19:41 PM »

I was kind of disappointed that we didn't get to see Timpani in her "true" form. :(
At the very end, all we saw was her silhouette...and I can't help but think that it resembled Marzipan.