Author Topic: Hitler paradox!? (Read 13448 times)

dżamper · « **on:** November 11, 2007, 04:29:11 AM »

Bad Hitler -> World War -> Poland wins -> Freedom of Poland
No Bad Hitler -> No World War -> No win of Poland -> No freedom of Poland

Thank you Hitler?

BP · « **Reply #1 on:** November 11, 2007, 04:49:27 AM »

But our princess is in another castle!

ShadowBrain · « **Reply #2 on:** November 11, 2007, 08:30:10 AM »

Do you live in Poland?

Glorb · « **Reply #3 on:** November 11, 2007, 09:59:32 AM »

Look at it this way:

Time traveler goes back in time to stop Hitler from being born > Time traveler discovers that there was no World War I or II > Silas Warner is not inspired by WWII to make Castle Wolfenstein in 1981 > Because there's no CW, id Software never makes Wolfenstein 3D, the first FPS > Time traveler discovers the present day only has sports and puzzle games > Time traveler goes back in time to stop himself from making the time machine > Because the time machine does not exist, the time traveler could not go back in time to prevent himself from making the time machine with which to go back in time to prevent himself from making the time machine with which to go back in time... > the universe explodes

N64 Chick · « **Reply #4 on:** November 11, 2007, 10:28:40 AM »

I've never liked the concept of time travel...

dżamper · « **Reply #5 on:** November 11, 2007, 10:34:09 AM »

Quote from: ShadowBrain on November 11, 2007, 08:30:10 AM

Do you live in Poland?

Yes

Quote from: Glorb on November 11, 2007, 09:59:32 AM

Look at it this way:

Time traveler goes back in time to stop Hitler from being born > Time traveler discovers that there was no World War I or II > Silas Warner is not inspired by WWII to make Castle Wolfenstein in 1981 > Because there's no CW, id Software never makes Wolfenstein 3D, the first FPS > Time traveler discovers the present day only has sports and puzzle games > Time traveler goes back in time to stop himself from making the time machine > Because the time machine does not exist, the time traveler could not go back in time to prevent himself from making the time machine with which to go back in time to prevent himself from making the time machine with which to go back in time... > the universe explodes

It's like killing your grandpa before he make your dad...

Luigison · « **Reply #6 on:** November 11, 2007, 10:43:06 AM »

It is possible that Poland would have become free even if there was no Hitler.

On another note, I just had my IP address blocked from editing Wikipedia.

WarpRattler · « **Reply #7 on:** November 11, 2007, 10:49:58 AM »

No Wolfenstein 3D also means no Commander Keen, because the main character is BJ's grandson...but no Castle Wolfenstein certainly doesn't mean no FPS with the Wolfenstein 3D engine but a different name.

dżamper · « **Reply #8 on:** November 11, 2007, 11:47:59 AM »

Quote from: Luigison on November 11, 2007, 10:43:06 AM

It is possible that Poland would have become free even if there was no Hitler.

Quote from: Toad from Super Mario Advance

I think so!

But not in 1918 :)

MEGAß¥TE · « **Reply #9 on:** November 11, 2007, 12:21:55 PM »

What now? 1918 was the end of World War I, not World War II in which Hitler was involved.

PaperLuigi · « **Reply #10 on:** November 11, 2007, 12:43:02 PM »

Hitler killed 6,000,000 Jews and you think it was okay because his existence gave Poland freedom?

Ambulance Y · « **Reply #11 on:** November 11, 2007, 01:01:45 PM »

I don't think anyone said what he did was okay.

PaperLuigi · « **Reply #12 on:** November 11, 2007, 01:06:55 PM »

What I meant to say was, we should thank him for starting the war and giving Poland it's freedom, and ignore the fact that he did other things (such as killing off 6,000,000 Jews) other than lose the war to Poland.

Lizard Dude · « **Reply #13 on:** November 11, 2007, 01:42:03 PM »

Quote from: Luigison on November 11, 2007, 10:43:06 AM

On another note, I just had my IP address blocked from editing Wikipedia.

For what offense?

Quote from: WarpRattler on November 11, 2007, 10:49:58 AM

No Wolfenstein 3D also means no Commander Keen, because the main character is BJ's grandson...

I'm pretty sure that was something they threw in for fun after the fact, not the reason for creating Commander Keen. But from a Mariology-type perspective, totally.

WarpRattler · « **Reply #14 on:** November 11, 2007, 02:29:30 PM »

Yeah, -ology-wise, the character himself wouldn't exist. That's what I meant. The game would probably still exist with the same main character, but not with the relation to an earlier game (unless for some reason BJ was the main character of the aforementioned game using the W3D engine).