Smoking: Anyone try it?

[bullykoopa96]

it's also kinda stereotypical to assume that everyone who smokes is always hackin up a lung

[ShadowBrain]

Rolled combinations of rat poison and fireplace debris are known to cause that.

[Chupperson Weird]

Well bullykoopa, fact is, all the people I know who smoke are in fact coughing uncontrollably.

[Rao]

Smoking = death.

[PaperLuigi]

Living=Death

[Suffix]

It's more like living = slowly dying. Living definitely does not equal death. Similarly, smoking usually does not equal death, it equals swiftly dying.

[ShadowBrain]

Everyone's dying, but you can speed it up or slow it down as you please.

[Glorb]

Living=Death

MORIR ES VIVER, MORIR ES VIVER

[ShadowBrain]

[Cue two pages of zombie discussion]

[Trainman]

All the "4000 different chemicals" and poisonous stuff you guys mention aren't all in the cigarette to begin with. You may think "oh they sit down with each other and think 'okay how we gonna kill people today... let's put poop, rat poison, tar, etc. in the cigarette'" but, it's actually you, the end user, who is manufacturing the vast majority of the chemicals. Think of the the tobacco curing process, the substance that holds the cigarette together, preservatives, and the tobacco and paper itself. Lighting that complex arrangement of chemicals on fire will definitely make thousands more different chemicals.... so yeah.

[Chupperson Weird]

And this makes it better... how? Second hand smoke is still more toxic than smoking in the first place.

[Trainman]

I'm not saying it makes it better at all... just some people think that a lot of the crazy byproducts of cigarettes are injected into the cigarette to begin with as if cig companies there all day and plot what horrible stuff to put it yet a lot of what people trip out isn't even there until the person smokes it... so some people are just misled when they say something like "The cigarette companies *put* those *harmful chemicals* [that you produce] in cigarettes... they're horrible people."

The whole point of the paragraph, in another sense, is it's your friggin' fault if you wanna smoke. Cig companies just make the cigarettes and it's your decision whether you wanna burn the cigarette and produce those harmful byproducts.... so you can't say it's all 100% a cigarette company's fault.

[Chupperson Weird]

I'm not even sure your information on this matter is accurate, to be honest. There are plenty of harmful chemicals in it when manufactured. Things like formaldehyde, if I recall correctly, which you'd have to be stupid to want to ingest in the first place. Besides that, of course I can say it's 100% the cigarette company's fault, since if you're right, they market their products for the express purpose of being lit on fire and "producing" the byproducts. Lastly, you must surely be aware that cigarettes are designed to be addictive so you will keep buying and using them. Seriously man, the blame is squarely on cigarette companies. Stupid people are going to be taken advantage of one way or another.

[bullykoopa96]

I think south park said it best in that one episode where they tour the tobacco company.  "We work all day making cigarettes!  Who wants to live to be 90 anyways!"  hahaha.  It's just a drug...like alcohol.  That's part of your choice of freedom.

[Chupperson Weird]

Difference being that alcohol doesn't permanently damage you if you so much as ingest a little bit of it, or consume it in small amounts. Cigarettes start destroying your body the second you use them.