Author Topic: Where Nintendo's genetics went wrong. (Read 14377 times)

bladeofLUIGl · « **on:** May 08, 2005, 01:59:14 AM »

If you went mad looking over the details of Yoshi's story and paper Mario, you've come to the right place. In Paper Mario, there was families of Toads. And goombas. But Mario and Luigi were born by a stork. Why didn't they have parents? Goombas and Toads did... That also gives me another question...... How was Wario, Waluigi, Daisy, Peach, Yoshi, and etc born? Who did Bowser have a child with in Mario Sunshine?

Koopaslaya · « **Reply #1 on:** May 08, 2005, 07:39:14 AM »

It's a game, buddy....

Edited by - Koopaslaya on 5/8/2005 6:40:52 AM

Yoshisaurus Rex · « **Reply #2 on:** May 08, 2005, 08:24:49 AM »

I suggest you go to Mariology (serious posts wanted) and talk about it there. I'm sure someone can find a theory for that.

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Edited by - Yoshisaurus Rex on 5/8/2005 7:25:38 AM

Nameneko · « **Reply #3 on:** May 08, 2005, 12:37:40 PM »

Here
it is.

BP · « **Reply #4 on:** May 08, 2005, 01:31:29 PM »

Well, Yoshi came from an egg, and his parents were ? blocks.

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Yoshisaurus Rex · « **Reply #5 on:** May 08, 2005, 02:46:08 PM »

Hey! Are you calling my mom a block?!

Actually the Yoshi eggs were probably just stuffed into the blocks by enemies some how so they couldn't stop Bowser. Why them put them in blocks so Mario could get them out, I don't know.

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Sqrt2 · « **Reply #6 on:** May 10, 2005, 06:24:45 AM »

Supposedly Birdo is supposed to be Yoshi's answer to Peach and Daisy. If that is the case then I pose the following question: If Birdo and Yoshi had a baby, who would be the childs mother?

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boomstix · « **Reply #7 on:** May 10, 2005, 06:14:02 PM »

Ummmmm... Birdo?

If a tree falls in the woods, do all the others laugh at it?

Markio · « **Reply #8 on:** May 10, 2005, 06:31:18 PM »

Another thing: How come Bowser's so big? All the other koopas aren't that big. Maybe he was brought up on nothing but Super Mushrooms.

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Suffix · « **Reply #9 on:** May 10, 2005, 07:34:04 PM »

Perhaps we need to think of them more as plants...

BP · « **Reply #10 on:** May 10, 2005, 07:53:07 PM »

YR: No, because you are Yoshisaurus Rex. I said Yoshi. (But that was a good one ;D )

I would've saved this for "Ask a Stupid Question" but, what does Birdo have to do with birds? Birds have wings, Birdo doesn't. Birds have beaks, Birds have feathers, Birdo doesn't.

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Edited by - BiRd PeRsOn on 5/10/2005 6:54:46 PM

smfan1085 · « **Reply #11 on:** May 10, 2005, 08:36:10 PM »

Probably just has to do with the eggs she spits. They look like bird eggs.

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Edited by - smfan1085 on 5/10/2005 7:36:32 PM

BP · « **Reply #12 on:** May 11, 2005, 02:53:15 PM »

Good point.

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Latias Dita · « **Reply #13 on:** May 11, 2005, 06:46:03 PM »

Yoshi eggs look like (large) bird eggs. Unless you mean Birdo's eggs look like chicken eggs.

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Red Paratroopa · « **Reply #14 on:** May 11, 2005, 06:57:06 PM »

Don't most eggs look like bird's eggs, which, like most eggs, are egg-shaped?

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Latias Dita · « **Reply #15 on:** May 11, 2005, 07:03:48 PM »

Insects and other invertebrates, fish, and amphibians don't lay bird/reptile eggs.

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Luigison · « **Reply #16 on:** May 11, 2005, 07:05:18 PM »

Which came first, the chicken or the egg? The egg. Dinosaurs.

Birdo may be more related to Yoshi than any bird, but evidence supports that modern birds may be evolutionary decendants of dinosaurs.

Also the door that you enter after beating Birdo has a bird head. Maybe Birdo stole the eggs from the bird in the doorway? Or, maybe Birdo is a flightless ancestor of Yoshi?

Markio · « **Reply #17 on:** May 11, 2005, 07:47:01 PM »

Maybe Birdo has a beak where that big hole in her head is that shoots eggs is. you know, her mouth. But to get the eggs to fit out when she shoots them, she has to take her beak off.

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Latias Dita · « **Reply #18 on:** May 11, 2005, 09:26:30 PM »

It seems to me Yoshi and Birdo mgiht have a common ancestor, though yeah terapods are the dinosaurs that might have evolved into birds.

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Edited by - Latias Dita on 5/11/2005 8:27:39 PM

bladeofLUIGl · « **Reply #19 on:** May 12, 2005, 04:46:33 PM »

It's funny, since the Stork delivers parents their baby (as the story goes)(yes I know what really happens) maybe Yoshi was destined to be Mario and Luigi's parents.

goodie · « **Reply #20 on:** May 14, 2005, 05:12:37 PM »

Dinosaurs did not evolve into birds. So what if there are birds with teeth and claws. That doesn't mean anything.

Mr. Wiggles · « **Reply #21 on:** May 14, 2005, 08:55:29 PM »

Ummmm.....Pteradactyll anyone?

Latias Dita · « **Reply #22 on:** May 15, 2005, 10:39:38 AM »

Pteradons and the like were NOT dinosaurs. They were reptiles, but they were not actually dinosaurs.

However, that doesn't eman dinosaurs evolved into birds. For one thing, only a few species of dinosaurs probably evolved into birds, not all of them. They were probably small bipedal dinosaurs like raptors. There is evidence that rpators had feathers. These smaller feathered dinosaurs, over millions of years of natural selection would have become lighter. Their feathers would changed funtion from just insulation and display to help them to first glide, then achieve flight. There's no absolute proof that birds evolved form dinosaurs, but there's evidence in their bone structure and evidence of feathers, I'd be very surprised if birds didn't evolve from dinosaurs.

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Markio · « **Reply #23 on:** May 15, 2005, 11:35:45 AM »

After all, our very lives depend on whether these creatures that we aren't sure existed back in prehistory are related to birds today! You say they're dino-related, you say they're not, I say, "do you think an apatosaurus could smash down a building with it's head?" Plus there's that whole dinosaur race of triceratons on that other planet... but I don't think anyone knows what I'm talking about.

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boomstix · « **Reply #24 on:** May 15, 2005, 05:46:28 PM »

Would you care to elaborate, Sir Markio?

If a tree falls in the woods, do all the others laugh at it?

violet_yoshi · « **Reply #25 on:** May 24, 2005, 05:37:47 AM »

Well the truth is that, Bowser is their father!

Come on, you knew somebody had to pull the ol "Luke I am your father!" joke, on this one.

Suffix · « **Reply #26 on:** May 24, 2005, 08:59:08 AM »

>Plus there's that whole dinosaur race of triceratons on that other planet...

Sauria? Is that what you're referring to?

Hope(N Forever) · « **Reply #27 on:** May 24, 2005, 11:42:28 AM »

Are we crossing over to the StarFox-verse now?

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...and in no point in the future will he ever be abandonded by me!
I will even drawn the best Super Mario comics ever to exist!!

Mr. Wiggles · « **Reply #28 on:** May 24, 2005, 03:56:06 PM »

I have found the answer.....

It's all in your head. Mainly because you took the red pill instead of the blue pill.

Markio · « **Reply #29 on:** May 24, 2005, 05:06:57 PM »

I don't think Sauria is the name of the planet they live on, but it's from the TMNT.

Pure being is getting hit in the face by a kickball.

goodie · « **Reply #30 on:** May 24, 2005, 09:13:36 PM »

Here, read this.

You probably won't believe it, but there's scientifically no way a dinosaur could change into a bird.

Please note: I am not trying to make anybody mad or anything. Just saying what I believe.

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Edited by - goodie on 5/24/2005 8:16:36 PM

smfan1085 · « **Reply #31 on:** May 24, 2005, 09:22:18 PM »

I don't believe in evolution, and don't even find theistic evolution convincing. Read Darwin on Trial by Phillip Johnson (?) to find out why I don't.

Luigison · « **Reply #32 on:** May 24, 2005, 09:38:00 PM »

I'm not saying he's wrong, but I can't base my scientific understanding solely on Creation Science Evangelism. To me Christian Science is neither Christion nor Scientific. Science is a process that looks at all the evidence and attempts to figure out what may have happened from that evidence. Many creationist look at problems with preconceived notions. I am a Christian and scientist, but don't think the two disagree in principle because they start from different places. Religions try to answer the question "why?", while science usually ask "how?". The article you posted references "Search for the Truth", where what is "Truth" is already decided and the data is selected/made to fit that "truth". That is not a good way to do science.

Edited by - Luigison on 5/24/2005 8:47:51 PM

Toddathon · « **Reply #33 on:** May 25, 2005, 04:32:02 PM »

BABIES DON'T COME FROM STORKS!

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Latias Dita · « **Reply #34 on:** May 25, 2005, 05:08:24 PM »

Someone has a case of caplock disease I see...

If, in the Mario world, human babies are brought by the stork, then that's how it is, no matter how illogicla that is.

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smfan1085 · « **Reply #35 on:** May 25, 2005, 08:49:19 PM »

If you're talking to me, Luigison, the book I mentioned is based on scientific reasoning, though I think the author is still a Christian.

goodie · « **Reply #36 on:** May 26, 2005, 05:18:06 PM »

"The article you posted references "Search for the Truth", where what is "Truth" is already decided and the data is selected/made to fit that "truth". That is not a good way to do science."

I see what you're saying. But most evolutionists do the same: they are totally convinced that evolution is true, and they try to make the evidence fit their theory. Though their not always honest. (In fact, some of their evidences have been proven to be hoaxes.)
I better stop before I go on a big rant. :P

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Luigison · « **Reply #37 on:** May 26, 2005, 09:07:53 PM »

I agree with you goodie. Anybody can believe something so strongly that they are blinded by it. That's why it sometimes take scientist and anyone for that matter to ascept giant leap in paradigms.

The supposed dino/bird fossil that was presented in China made worldwide news, but after a lot scienctists examined it they all came to the conlusion that the villager had faked it. Strangly enough the fake was a splice of several fossil and one of them was later found to be part of a dinosaur that actually had bird like features.

I am generally a skeptic, but try to keep an open mind.

Back on topic. Sort-of. I still think the Revolution controller may use a type of touch screen like found in some car navigation systems that have force feed back button that you can actually feel on the screen. This makes since to me because Nintendo said the best way to think of the Rev controller is to imagine one that would work for all their other controllers, but they also said once that the Revolution contorller would not have a screen. I could be way of base, but maybe the "screen" is actually a film that is wrapped around the controller. Regardless I am very interested in seeing how Nintendo's console controllers have evolved. I just hope they grow like weeds and take over the fertile gaming market, because Nintendo's extinction would be devastating.

Latias Dita · « **Reply #38 on:** May 26, 2005, 10:45:10 PM »

I have to admit, I'm one of thoes evoltuionists. And I usually try to keep an open mind about these things.

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bladeofLUIGl · « **Reply #39 on:** May 28, 2005, 12:59:36 PM »

The question I'm wondering is, where was the stork suppose to deliver mario and luigi?

Ok, this is a little off subject, but how do you post flash animations? I've learned the basics on animations, but I need to know how to post it online.

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Luigison · « **Reply #40 on:** May 28, 2005, 01:37:34 PM »

http://www.w3schools.com/flash/flash_inhtml.asp

bladeofLUIGl · « **Reply #41 on:** May 28, 2005, 02:42:18 PM »

It sounds a little complicated, but I'll get the hang of it..

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Yoshisaurus Rex · « **Reply #42 on:** May 28, 2005, 06:59:21 PM »

I think the stork was going the same place it was at the end of the game.

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Chupperson Weird · « **Reply #43 on:** May 28, 2005, 11:00:09 PM »

LATE POST:

Evolution within species is one thing, and evolution from one species to another is something else. It has also been disproven, if I remember correctly.

Luigison · « **Reply #44 on:** May 28, 2005, 11:32:35 PM »

It's hard to disprove a negative. Anyway it depends on what you mean by species. People with Downs Syndrome have a different number of chromosomes. Most changes in species are negative and don't get carried on, but occasionally a deformity could be an advantage. Pandas for example do not have opposable thumbs, but a deformed finger serves the same purpose.

Sorry not to let you have the last post, but evolution is generally considered proven by scientists. Many laypersons consider it "just" a theory, but theories are not something scientists make up at a late night party. They spend a lot of time researching and testing different explanations. I'm not saying we came from monkeys. That's absurd and no scientist believes it, but we are related to the other hominoids and share well over 90% of our DNA with most of them.

Opinions in this post are solely that of Luigison. Facts, on the other hand, are facts.

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Edited by - Luigison on 5/29/2005 9:27:16 AM

BP · « **Reply #45 on:** June 04, 2005, 07:12:30 PM »

I'm way off topic here, but I didn't want to start a new topic for no reason: What would a Shy Guy's face look like? The only time we've seen them is in Luigi's Mansion, with the masked ghosts, but those weren't actual Shy Guys.

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Latias Dita · « **Reply #46 on:** June 04, 2005, 07:28:16 PM »

Maybe it's...another mask XD!

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boomstix · « **Reply #47 on:** June 04, 2005, 08:32:00 PM »

...So there's an endless amount of masks that a Shy Guy has to carry around on his face?

I knew it!

And don't ever try to take them all off! By the time you take the last mask off you'll be DEAD.

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Suffix · « **Reply #48 on:** June 04, 2005, 08:46:05 PM »

If I remember correctly, there was a bit of fan art somewhere where a person guessed as to what was beneath the masks... Just a moment...

Ah, here it is. Scary.

From a thread entitled "Mario Monsters Unleashed." There's a great Ninji sketch on page 3.

Edited by - Suffix on 6/4/2005 7:51:43 PM

Latias Dita · « **Reply #49 on:** June 04, 2005, 09:14:33 PM »

Creepy! I'd rather Shy Guys have an endless amount of mask than see that face!

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BP · « **Reply #50 on:** June 07, 2005, 01:18:01 PM »

...that made me LAUGH!!!!! If they had faces like that, they wouldn't wear masks. They could scare Mario and the person playing the game away!

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goodie · « **Reply #51 on:** June 07, 2005, 02:21:15 PM »

http://www.i-mockery.com/pixelpals/default.php?issue=1

Edited by - goodie on 6/7/2005 1:22:08 PM

Lizard Dude · « **Reply #52 on:** June 07, 2005, 10:16:04 PM »

I love how the voice comes from the mask in the last panel of the iMockery.

> I'm not saying we came from monkeys. That's absurd and no scientist believes it, but we are related to the other hominoids and share well over 90% of our DNA with most of them.

Yeah, we came from orangutangs.

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Chupperson Weird · « **Reply #53 on:** June 08, 2005, 09:43:59 PM »

Good thing we didn't come from orangutans.

Red Paratroopa · « **Reply #54 on:** June 09, 2005, 05:29:07 PM »

*could go for some Tang*

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bladeofLUIGl · « **Reply #55 on:** June 09, 2005, 05:37:10 PM »

Who are we most genetically connected torwards?

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Suffix · « **Reply #56 on:** June 09, 2005, 06:19:32 PM »

Mario! It explains a lot, doesn't it?

BP · « **Reply #57 on:** June 09, 2005, 07:24:33 PM »

That reminds me of a topic about Il Piantissimo... There was a debate about Mario's species. Flatly, he's a human with a large nose, like Ray Romano, but more round. I would consider it the end of the world if Nintendo made Mario Games realistic; If they made the characters look like real people with normal noses...

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Lizard Dude · « **Reply #58 on:** June 09, 2005, 07:33:06 PM »

luigifan8: orangutans

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Latias Dita · « **Reply #59 on:** June 10, 2005, 01:02:22 AM »

I thought we share about 97% of our DNA with chimpazees, making them the closest (It doesn't mean we evolved form chimps, but it could mean we share a common ancestor).

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goodie · « **Reply #60 on:** June 10, 2005, 04:53:22 PM »

"It doesn't mean we evolved form chimps, but it could mean we share a common ancestor"

Or a common Creator... ;)

FoxMcCloud · « **Reply #61 on:** June 10, 2005, 05:01:59 PM »

So we both evolved from a god-like giant human-chimpanzee hybrid from the planet Mars.
So that explains how weird my brother looks...

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Chupperson Weird · « **Reply #62 on:** June 10, 2005, 06:21:54 PM »

I'm pretty sure our DNA is more similar to chimpanzees than orangutans. Not like it really matters...

Lizard Dude · « **Reply #63 on:** June 12, 2005, 04:05:37 AM »

Yeah, why did I say orangutan? Something about orangutans (and perhaps oranges) are haunting my past.

lol @ FoxMcCloud

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Markio · « **Reply #64 on:** June 12, 2005, 01:38:05 PM »

Well, being messed up and not knowing where you came from would be more satisfying than being lonely... Or more satisfying than scraping your leg.

smfan1085 · « **Reply #65 on:** June 12, 2005, 08:43:49 PM »

What's that supposed to mean, exactly?

Ever notice how the name "Playstation" sounds more kiddy than "Gamecube" or "Nintendo 64"?

Markio · « **Reply #66 on:** June 12, 2005, 09:07:03 PM »

I'm not sure, I think Markio meant that we don't need to have all he answers, but we should be happy with the knowledge we already have or something.

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Fifth · « **Reply #67 on:** June 13, 2005, 02:38:03 AM »

Wise words, those.

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Lizard Dude · « **Reply #68 on:** June 13, 2005, 01:48:43 PM »

I would like to point out that I found it hilarious (especially with this thread instantly popping into my mind) that WarioWare: Twisted! features a microgame which commands you to "Evolve!" wherein you repeatedly mash the A button to change a chimp into a man.

XD

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Latias Dita · « **Reply #69 on:** June 15, 2005, 07:55:03 AM »

Chimp-human hybrid? I once saw this progarm on the Discovery Channel about the possiblity of a chimp and human hybrid and if one chimp by the name of Oliver might;ve been one. AS you can umagine, no one really w3ant to test it (and Oliver turned out to be whole chimp, but a very odd one).

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