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See, the reason I say it's better to kill a baby or mentally ill patient than a normal human is that regardless of what you say, they can't appreciate their 'human life' the way a regular being can. Look at it this way: if you were forced to kill one person out of a group of three, who would you kill? A newborn baby, a 10 year old boy who's just starting to understand the world around him, or a 30 year old mother supporting her two kids? If you have any sense of moral well being, you'd kill the baby. The baby is thoughtless, mindless, it can't understand it's being killed, and it isn't missing much.Even if it is better to kill a baby in that situation, does that justify killing one for convenience? In an abortion, it's not a choice between killing the baby or killing the mother, it's a choice between killing the baby or having the mother go through a few months of discomfort as a result of her irresponsibility (again, ignoring the <1% of abortions that result from rape or incest), and then giving the baby to one of the thousands of people who want one. Is a baby's life really that worthless?
I dunno. Pro-life people, I just don't get it. A fetus isn't a human being. It's a human fetus. I will give it to them that yes, it's a form of life and that ending a form of life is morally wrong, but still! Abortion is not murder! I'm so sick of hearing that.Did you read my thing? Where did I go wrong?
60% A, 40% CWell, for A, provide your rebuttal to my arguments that it is. For C, please don't do that. We're trying to have a debate about abortion, not religion.
Appeals to religion are invalid, except for defining your own PERSONAL(READ: not mine or anyone else's) moral code. Nice try, though.Actually no, but that's not what the debate is about or what I'm doing, so never mind.
......Neither of which refers to a specific religion, or, more importantly, was created by the founders. There is separation of church and state, meaning there is no forced state religion and no formal ties between the government and any state church. On the other hand, allowing churches to exist and to espouse their views in public, listening to their petitions, and having religious adherents in the government is part of being a democracy.
the government is as secular as it is a democracy. I think there's a reference to religion on both our nation's pledge and our currency.
Explain how -science- exclaims that a faetus is exactly the same as a person. To me, a faetus is as much a human as, I don't know, a pine cone is an actual pine tree. I'll acknowledge the last point about the religious right, though. I'm just bitter.Basic science shows that the fetus is a living homo sapiens, with its own DNA distinct from its mother's. Logic and philosophy show, IMO, that none of the differences between a fetus and an adult human make it less of a person and justify killing it (my main argument is over here, for reference.
