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Title: BEST IN SERIES? Week 8: Yoshi's Role
Post by: Nintendoobsessed on March 23, 2008, 09:09:37 AM
Which game has Yoshi's best apperance? Cameos are allowed, if you like that sort of thing. Otherwise, I'm expecting a lot of Yoshi's Island votes.

Votes:

Yoshi's Island (1)

Winners:
WEEK 1(Attacks): Mario and Luigi: Superstar Saga
WEEK 2(Final Boss Battle): Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door.
WEEK 3(Music): Super Mario Galaxy
WEEK 4(Underwater Levels): Super Mario World
WEEK 5(Powerups): Super Mario Bros 3
WEEK 6(Bowser Level):Paper Mario
WEEK 7(First Boss): Super Mario 64
Title: Re: BEST IN SERIES? Week 8: Yoshi's Role
Post by: SushieBoy on March 23, 2008, 10:39:50 AM
YOSHI'S STORY. No not really Yoshi's Island. But you really do have to give the YS Yoshi's an honorable mention, they were just hatched and right away they went off on the suckish adventure. Well the same thing happens in SMW, except for the part of the suckish adventure.
Title: Re: BEST IN SERIES? Week 8: Yoshi's Role
Post by: Toad on March 23, 2008, 01:16:14 PM
Yoshi's Island, hands down. Yoshi was actually a cool side-kick at that time. His voice didn't suck, he wasn't paired off with Birdo, and he could swim in deep water.

I really wish Nintendo would come up with some better sound clips for Yoshi's voice. It kinda worked in Yoshi's Story, but quiet nearly every game since then has had the most annoying sounds in the world where Yoshi has been involved (why oh why did Yoshi's Island Advance need the annoying Yoshi sounds? WHY?!)

Title: Re: BEST IN SERIES? Week 8: Yoshi's Role
Post by: SushieBoy on March 23, 2008, 01:29:44 PM
(why oh why did Yoshi's Island Advance need the annoying Yoshi sounds? WHY?!)

Also why did they add voices to the characters in all the other Advanced games? That's why I didn't even bother to by them

WHY
WHY
WHYYYY
Title: Re: BEST IN SERIES? Week 8: Yoshi's Role
Post by: Luigison on March 23, 2008, 01:38:19 PM
Yoshi's Island gets my vote for "Yoshi's Role", though I liked Super Mario World better. 

I like how this BEST IN SERIES is giving equal categories for each of my favorite games.  How many weeks before we start seeing dupes? 
Title: Re: BEST IN SERIES? Week 8: Yoshi's Role
Post by: ShadowBrain on March 23, 2008, 05:19:11 PM
Also why did they add voices to the characters in all the other Advanced games? That's why I didn't even bother to by them

WHY
WHY
WHYYYY
I hear ya... (that, and the excessive 1-Ups)

YI, of course. Honestly, it really is the only game where Yoshi is enjoyably playable/ridable.
Title: Re: BEST IN SERIES? Week 8: Yoshi's Role
Post by: Bag of Magic Food on March 23, 2008, 06:17:13 PM
Yoshi's Island, hands down. Yoshi was actually a cool side-kick at that time. His voice didn't suck
Because he didn't have one in that game!
Title: Re: BEST IN SERIES? Week 8: Yoshi's Role
Post by: Kuromatsu on March 23, 2008, 06:52:35 PM
Yoshi's Safari.
Title: Re: BEST IN SERIES? Week 8: Yoshi's Role
Post by: penguinwizard on March 23, 2008, 11:10:09 PM
Best role? Yoshi's Island, hands down.

Best look? Can't say for sure, since the art renders and FMV renders all look superior. But again I'll say Yoshi's Island just because he looked like a teenager/adult there. In the games since then, he looks younger.
Title: Re: BEST IN SERIES? Week 8: Yoshi's Role
Post by: Ultima Shadow on March 24, 2008, 01:44:23 AM
Mario and Luigi: Superstar Saga.

Not sure if this counts as it's probably not the true Yoshi, but there are Yoshies; if it doesn't count, can someone please inform me so I can change it. Plus, I thought I'd go for the outsider vote.
Title: Re: BEST IN SERIES? Week 8: Yoshi's Role
Post by: Bag of Magic Food on March 24, 2008, 01:46:52 AM
Well, then, the green Yoshi in Yoshi's Island probably isn't "the real Yoshi", since that must have been the previous generation, and I believe "the real Yoshi" just hatched from an egg at the beginning of Super Mario World.
Title: Re: BEST IN SERIES? Week 8: Yoshi's Role
Post by: BP on March 24, 2008, 03:08:06 AM
That can't be right, because the first Yoshi you encounter hadn't just hatched. He directly tells you he was off to save his friends who got sealed into eggs by Bowser, when he got sealed into one himself. Don't know what that means about the other green Yoshis in ? Blocks--the same one, sealed again and again, every time you lose sight of him? Cursed? Different Yoshis who suffered the same fate? The ones up in Star Road are clearly newborns, however.

As for this thread, Yoshi's Island is obviously going to win, and it has my vote. If I had to choose a different game, I still rather like that he was fully playable, not ridable, in Super Mario 64 DS.

Edit: Ultima Shadow, are you sure you meant Superstar Saga? They have barely any role at all in it aside from laying Neon Eggs for you!
Title: Re: BEST IN SERIES? Week 8: Yoshi's Role
Post by: Kojinka on March 24, 2008, 07:52:18 AM
I'm going to say Yoshi's Isand because I respect the amount of patience those Yoshis had with Baby Mario.  My niece and nephews can be just as bad, if not worse.
Title: Re: BEST IN SERIES? Week 8: Yoshi's Role
Post by: Chupperson Weird on March 24, 2008, 02:06:13 PM
Yoshi is like Toad; there's only a distinct single Yoshi when plot events dictate thus.
Title: Re: BEST IN SERIES? Week 8: Yoshi's Role
Post by: Ultima Shadow on March 24, 2008, 02:15:45 PM
Edit: Ultima Shadow, are you sure you meant Superstar Saga? They have barely any role at all in it aside from laying Neon Eggs for you!

Yes; I loved the concept of the Yoshi Theatre, and the entire goal of making them lay the Neon Eggs was fun. Also, the face the Yoshies make when they receive the Neon Fruit is incredibly funny/cute (depending on which way you look at it) and finding out at the end of the game that the events were just a film that the Yoshies were watching (or an adaptment of it) was a nice touch.

Plus, I didn't like Yoshi's other roles in comparison; Super Mario World just made him look like a power-up/gimmick, despite the Yoshi House and message box, and Yoshi's Story portrayed him less as a loyal and courageous hero and more of an "OMG-SO-CUTE" hero; then again, with such  a character as Yoshi, it was only a matter of time, so I can't really blame Yoshi's Story for doing that to his character. Also, in Super Mario 64... I don't know about you, but seeing a green dinosaur commit suicide isn't really the best way to celebrate clocking the game.

I liked his role in Yoshi's Island, by the way, and in Super Mario 64 DS; just not as much as in M&LSS. That, and I haven't played any Yoshi DS games for a prolonged period of time, or played Yoshi's Safari.
Title: Re: BEST IN SERIES? Week 8: Yoshi's Role
Post by: Chupperson Weird on March 24, 2008, 04:41:28 PM
Dude, the Yoshis in Yoshi's Story were baby Yoshis.
Title: Re: BEST IN SERIES? Week 8: Yoshi's Role
Post by: Ultima Shadow on March 24, 2008, 04:51:26 PM
Dude, the Yoshis in Yoshi's Story were baby Yoshis.

Very true, but I still didn't really like the more "cutesy" atmosphere, no matter how much it is justified by the ages of the protagonists.
Title: Re: BEST IN SERIES? Week 8: Yoshi's Role
Post by: Chupperson Weird on March 24, 2008, 04:56:03 PM
Fair enough. I enjoyed Yoshi's Story.
Title: Re: BEST IN SERIES? Week 8: Yoshi's Role
Post by: N64 Chick on March 24, 2008, 06:27:59 PM
Yoshi's Island. It's really no contest. Right?
Title: Re: BEST IN SERIES? Week 8: Yoshi's Role
Post by: penguinwizard on March 26, 2008, 04:49:53 PM
Plus, I didn't like Yoshi's other roles in comparison; Super Mario World just made him look like a power-up/gimmick, despite the Yoshi House and message box, and Yoshi's Story portrayed him less as a loyal and courageous hero and more of an "OMG-SO-CUTE" hero; then again, with such  a character as Yoshi, it was only a matter of time, so I can't really blame Yoshi's Story for doing that to his character. Also, in Super Mario 64... I don't know about you, but seeing a green dinosaur commit suicide isn't really the best way to celebrate clocking the game.

If you look at the official Yoshi art in various Mario games, it's as if he was intentionally made cuter and cuter until it became too much. Just look at this (http://yoshi.2yr.net/pics/mario-tennis-gbc-yoshi.jpg), it's official art of Yoshi from Mario Tennis for Game Boy Color. Sickening.

The Yoshi's Story Yoshi is indeed way too cute, but what bothered me most of all is that he hummed all the time. Dancing when standing still, humming when aiming an egg. What alleviated that somewhat was the animation of Yoshi trying to catch his breath after running too much (I don't remember seeing that sort of thing in other games except for Eternal Darkness).

And yeah, Yoshi jumping off the castle was completely idiotic. Couldn't he just walk around the castle until he was out of sight instead of leaping to his death? Since he leapt towards the waterfall, I assumed I'd see him there if I ran over there, but nope. Maybe Nintendo assumed people would accept he leapt into the water, then swam to that area of the moat near the cannon and off the stage at the speed of light.
Title: Re: BEST IN SERIES? Week 8: Yoshi's Role
Post by: Bag of Magic Food on March 26, 2008, 06:39:26 PM
I assumed there was a secret door behind the waterfall that only Yoshi had access to!

I also noticed Nintendo's tendency to make Yoshi smaller and walk more upright, even though it looks weirder for Mario to ride him that way.  What's funny is that licensed media from around the time of Super Mario World (think of the PC version of Mario is Missing or the Super Mario World cartoon series) seemed to want to go the other way and stretch Yoshi out some more.
Title: Re: BEST IN SERIES? Week 8: Yoshi's Role
Post by: BP on March 26, 2008, 08:22:06 PM
Meh. I'm personally glad they changed him as they did from Melee to Brawl, from the ancient Super Mario World shape to the more up-to-date one.
Title: Re: BEST IN SERIES? Week 8: Yoshi's Role
Post by: Nintendoobsessed on March 27, 2008, 05:27:00 PM
Yoshi's Island (9)
Yoshi's Safari (1)
Mario and Luigi: Superstar Saga (1)

The obvious one wins. Weeee.

I don't know what to say.

Um...Reequ
Title: Re: BEST IN SERIES? Week 8: Yoshi's Role
Post by: Bag of Magic Food on March 27, 2008, 05:41:33 PM
And I see this is why Nintendo has started to go back and mine the Yoshi's Island concept some more with games like Yoshi's Touch And Go and Yoshi's Island DS.  GEE, WHAT A COINCIDENCE THAT MARIO, PRINCESS PEACH, DONKEY KONG, WARIO, AND BOWSER ARE ALL THE SAME AGE
Title: Re: BEST IN SERIES? Week 8: Yoshi's Role
Post by: penguinwizard on March 29, 2008, 12:01:22 AM
And I see this is why Nintendo has started to go back and mine the Yoshi's Island concept some more with games like Yoshi's Touch And Go and Yoshi's Island DS.  GEE, WHAT A COINCIDENCE THAT MARIO, PRINCESS PEACH, DONKEY KONG, WARIO, AND BOWSER ARE ALL THE SAME AGE
I forgot about that. The idea of baby Peach, Donkey Kong, and Wario scares me. Should have seen that for the big block of cheese that it was.

I wouldn't mind knock-offs of Yoshi's Island as long as they got around to creating a true 2D sequel to it. Which I could have sworn they did. I wouldn't say Yoshi's Island is like Final Fantasy, but it's good enough to get that sort of treatment since Yoshi's Island just seemed high on adventure. There's the danger of disgracing the original through multiple shoddy sequels though.

And even though it says SMW2: Yoshi's Island, I never thought of the game as being Super Mario World 2. This one was in a league of its own.
Title: Re: BEST IN SERIES? Week 8: Yoshi's Role
Post by: Chupperson Weird on March 29, 2008, 11:12:00 PM
That's because Nintendo of America just tagged on the title SMW2. The real title is simply Yoshi's Island.
Also, Yoshi's Island DS did happen. It was a true 2D sequel, even though it wasn't terribly good.
Title: Re: BEST IN SERIES? Week 8: Yoshi's Role
Post by: missingno on March 29, 2008, 11:35:36 PM
I vote for Yoshi's Island too.
Lots of memories with that...
Title: Re: BEST IN SERIES? Week 8: Yoshi's Role
Post by: ShadowBrain on March 30, 2008, 07:42:58 PM
If you look at the official Yoshi art in various Mario games, it's as if he was intentionally made cuter and cuter until it became too much. Just look at this (http://yoshi.2yr.net/pics/mario-tennis-gbc-yoshi.jpg), it's official art of Yoshi from Mario Tennis for Game Boy Color.
Well, that's kind of an old game...
Title: Re: BEST IN SERIES? Week 8: Yoshi's Role
Post by: missingno on March 31, 2008, 10:44:05 PM
If you look at the official Yoshi art in various Mario games, it's as if he was intentionally made cuter and cuter until it became too much. Just look at this (http://yoshi.2yr.net/pics/mario-tennis-gbc-yoshi.jpg), it's official art of Yoshi from Mario Tennis for Game Boy Color. Sickening..

The link doesn't lead to anything for me.
Title: Re: BEST IN SERIES? Week 8: Yoshi's Role
Post by: Bag of Magic Food on April 01, 2008, 12:21:59 AM
Give

http://www.yoshiart.com/view.php?image=mario-tennis-gbc-yoshi.jpg (http://www.yoshiart.com/view.php?image=mario-tennis-gbc-yoshi.jpg)

a try.
Title: Re: BEST IN SERIES? Week 8: Yoshi's Role
Post by: missingno on April 01, 2008, 05:19:15 PM
That one doesn't show an image either. :/
Title: Re: BEST IN SERIES? Week 8: Yoshi's Role
Post by: Ultima Shadow on April 01, 2008, 05:28:41 PM
It loads fine for me; maybe you should try going into the Gallery and looking for it (mario-tennis-gbc-yoshi.jpg) manually. That's how I originally found it.
Title: Re: BEST IN SERIES? Week 8: Yoshi's Role
Post by: missingno on April 01, 2008, 05:30:12 PM
Oh nevermind, I clicked it again to manually check into the gallery and it showed. Thanks.
Title: Re: BEST IN SERIES? Week 8: Yoshi's Role
Post by: Linkin800 on April 01, 2008, 06:00:46 PM
I think they killed the real Yoshi in SM64 when he junped off the edge and replaced him with the new cute looking one.
Title: Re: BEST IN SERIES? Week 8: Yoshi's Role
Post by: MEGAߥTE on April 01, 2008, 09:06:03 PM
That's because Nintendo of America just tagged on the title SMW2. The real title is simply Yoshi's Island.
In Japan, it was Super Mario: Yoshi Island.
Title: Re: BEST IN SERIES? Week 8: Yoshi's Role
Post by: Bag of Magic Food on April 01, 2008, 10:27:43 PM
That's because Nintendo of America just tagged on the title SMW2. The real title is simply Yoshi's Island.
I think they could have stuck with calling Super Mario World 1 "Super Mario Bros. 4" and never bothered introducing the "Super Mario World" name.
Title: Re: BEST IN SERIES? Week 8: Yoshi's Role
Post by: ShadowBrain on April 02, 2008, 05:16:41 AM
Give

http://www.yoshiart.com/view.php?image=mario-tennis-gbc-yoshi.jpg (http://www.yoshiart.com/view.php?image=mario-tennis-gbc-yoshi.jpg)

a try.
Okay, that is pretty bad, but that's waaay more babyish than he is in the new games. I mean, would you rather they just did what they do with the Kirby games, where they add angry eyebrows?

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi14.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fa335%2FTrevornater%2Fkirby.jpg%3Ft%3D1207135176&hash=2c40c02b1a6df90b07bde858c9f4b6f87afe217e)
Title: Re: BEST IN SERIES? Week 8: Yoshi's Role
Post by: Bag of Magic Food on April 03, 2008, 01:35:32 AM
Remember Ristar?  They changed the actual game to make all the characters angrier!
Title: Re: BEST IN SERIES? Week 8: Yoshi's Role
Post by: Sqrt2 on April 03, 2008, 05:23:18 AM
Yoshi's Island.
Title: Re: BEST IN SERIES? Week 8: Yoshi's Role
Post by: missingno on April 03, 2008, 01:56:23 PM
Remember Ristar?  They changed the actual game to make all the characters angrier!

Ristar's a really good game though.
I hope one day Sega at least gives Ristar some life as at least a cameo.