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Title: Best Donkey Kong design
Post by: Silver Metaknight on June 07, 2009, 02:50:44 PM
What design of Donkey Kong do you prefer?  His classic Nintendo style or his modern Rare design?
Title: Re: Best Donkey Kong design
Post by: PaperLuigi on June 07, 2009, 02:54:23 PM
Both are fine with me. He's Donkey Kong either way.
Title: Re: Best Donkey Kong design
Post by: LuigiBros on June 07, 2009, 02:59:50 PM
I love the Rare design compared to the Nintendo one. I just think modern looks better. I've never liked NES games designs.
Title: Re: Best Donkey Kong design
Post by: nensondubois on June 07, 2009, 03:33:48 PM
He was best in Mario Kart 64.
Title: Re: Best Donkey Kong design
Post by: The Chef on June 07, 2009, 04:37:34 PM
Rare's look. Specifically the way he looks in Brawl.
Title: Re: Best Donkey Kong design
Post by: ShadowBrain on June 07, 2009, 06:35:36 PM
By "Nintendo", I pictured the DKJB DK, which is the DK.
Title: Re: Best Donkey Kong design
Post by: The Chef on June 07, 2009, 08:16:05 PM
NO.

IT IS NOT.

NOT AT ALL.

TOOTHY GRIN = FUGLY.
Title: Re: Best Donkey Kong design
Post by: PaperLuigi on June 07, 2009, 08:29:31 PM
Oh yeah, I hate that stupid grin he does. So...I guess I like Rare Donkey Kong better.

I like Rare Donkey Kong's games better anyway. Rare Donkey Kong ftw.
Title: Re: Best Donkey Kong design
Post by: Rao on June 07, 2009, 09:07:28 PM
By "Nintendo", I pictured the DKJB DK
Ditto, so therefor, I voted for Nintendo DK.
Title: Re: Best Donkey Kong design
Post by: ShadowBrain on June 08, 2009, 07:11:57 AM
TOOTHY GRIN = FUGLY.
Oh, right... well, besides that. I guess I was thinking more of physical structure and graphical appearance.
Title: Re: Best Donkey Kong design
Post by: penguinwizard on June 08, 2009, 11:03:00 AM
I don't know what the difference is, but I first came to like Donkey Kong in DKC, so I'm going with the Rare design.
Title: Re: Best Donkey Kong design
Post by: Sqrt2 on June 08, 2009, 04:39:40 PM
I'm going with the Rare design, because the toothy grin look is awful.
Title: Re: Best Donkey Kong design
Post by: CrossEyed7 on June 08, 2009, 04:50:05 PM
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mariowiki.com%2Fimages%2F6%2F63%2FDonkey2.jpg&hash=7f75e511940cf0d80629b91ab12c29de41056106)
Nintendo Pre-Rare

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Rare 1

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Rare 2

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Nintendo Post-Rare

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Alternate Nintendo Post-Rare
Title: Re: Best Donkey Kong design
Post by: The Chef on June 08, 2009, 07:14:30 PM
You forgot the myriad of Post-Rare images that show him with the butt-ugly TOOTHY GRIN.
Title: Re: Best Donkey Kong design
Post by: Captain Jim on June 08, 2009, 08:00:23 PM
Well, gorrilas do have teeth...

Anyway, I don't really like many of the new designs. The eye area bugs me so much. What has fur around their eyes when the rest of their face is bald?
Title: Re: Best Donkey Kong design
Post by: The Chef on June 08, 2009, 08:17:05 PM
DK is an ape, not monkey. And neither apes nor monkeys have teeth that looks like mechanical gag choppers.
Title: Re: Best Donkey Kong design
Post by: Captain Jim on June 08, 2009, 08:20:36 PM
And they don't have fur growing around their eyes when the rest of their face is bare.
Title: Re: Best Donkey Kong design
Post by: Electric on June 08, 2009, 09:25:34 PM
None of the designs bother me much, but if I would chose any as my favorite, It would be the DKC design. DK actually looks like he has hair.
Title: Re: Best Donkey Kong design
Post by: Rao on June 08, 2009, 09:27:33 PM
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg132.imageshack.us%2Fimg132%2F4142%2Fdonkeykong.jpg&hash=68a364ff02e12e21f66edada28377028ae721e9e)

How is this ugly?
Title: Re: Best Donkey Kong design
Post by: CrossEyed7 on June 09, 2009, 08:46:42 AM
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fa1.vox.com%2F6a00c225236005f21900d41429d2816a47-500pi&hash=e44fe447f7ddfc79854b00bca96b072fd97842aa)
Title: Re: Best Donkey Kong design
Post by: Bigluigifan1.0 on June 09, 2009, 09:21:19 AM
I just mistook this for the "You Laugh, You Lose" topic because of that picture.

That said, I did indeed lose.
Title: Re: Best Donkey Kong design
Post by: The Chef on June 09, 2009, 01:31:18 PM
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg132.imageshack.us%2Fimg132%2F4142%2Fdonkeykong.jpg&hash=68a364ff02e12e21f66edada28377028ae721e9e)

How is this ugly?

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.soimmature.com%2Fimages%2Fteeth.gif&hash=304914266a2bd4590ad1f880bc05054a1fa8cee2)

Now tell me how it's NOT ugly.
Title: Re: Best Donkey Kong design
Post by: Turtlekid1 on June 09, 2009, 01:41:39 PM
I think DK is ugly no matter how many subtle re-designs they do.
Title: Re: Best Donkey Kong design
Post by: PaperLuigi on June 09, 2009, 02:03:45 PM
I just think the smile makes him look lame. He's ugly either way.

EDIT: Fixed so no one else gets confused.
Title: Re: Best Donkey Kong design
Post by: The Chef on June 09, 2009, 02:27:31 PM
At least he looks somewhat cool and mysterious with that ominous smirk he usually has in Rare's official artwork. Nintendo's artwork makes him look like a moron.
Title: Re: Best Donkey Kong design
Post by: LuigiBros on June 09, 2009, 02:29:36 PM
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.soimmature.com%2Fimages%2Fteeth.gif&hash=304914266a2bd4590ad1f880bc05054a1fa8cee2)

Now tell me how it's NOT ugly.

That's ugly. But there's a difference between loose teeth and teeth in a not ugly monkey.
Title: Re: Best Donkey Kong design
Post by: PaperLuigi on June 09, 2009, 03:07:18 PM
His Brawl design is just plain awesome. He looks stern and focused, like a big mean gorilla should.
Title: Re: Best Donkey Kong design
Post by: The Chef on June 09, 2009, 03:30:20 PM
But DK really isn't supposed to be mean, though. If anything, he's just a really intense fighter, being the protector of his island and all.
Title: Re: Best Donkey Kong design
Post by: LuigiBros on June 09, 2009, 03:31:28 PM
But DK really isn't supposed to be mean, though. If anything, he's just a really intense fighter, being the protector of his island and all.

DK isn't mean at all. He's pretty nice actually. He's just strong and looks all muscly.
Title: Re: Best Donkey Kong design
Post by: Captain Jim on June 09, 2009, 04:50:17 PM
At least he looks somewhat cool and mysterious with that ominous smirk

You lost me at cool and mysterious. DK is never any of those.
Title: Re: Best Donkey Kong design
Post by: ShadowBrain on June 09, 2009, 04:53:26 PM
Well, though I do admit I don't care for the dangerously rictus grin, it's tolerable compared to the toothless DK of CE7's last two examples.

Also, I "lost" on that albino ape as well, probably because (somehow) of Bigluigifan's post.
Title: Re: Best Donkey Kong design
Post by: The Chef on June 09, 2009, 06:20:03 PM
I like the toothless look. It's Muppety. Besides, the only characters who have toothy grins in Rare's style are Funky and S****y, not DK.

You lost me at cool and mysterious. DK is never any of those.

Try actually liking DK. Then we'll talk.
Title: Re: Best Donkey Kong design
Post by: Chupperson Weird on June 09, 2009, 08:14:43 PM
From the man who hates DK's best game.
Title: Re: Best Donkey Kong design
Post by: The Chef on June 09, 2009, 08:44:10 PM
Game does not = Character/brand. I hate the game because it lacks any ties to said brand and portrays the character poorly.
Title: Re: Best Donkey Kong design
Post by: Rao on June 09, 2009, 09:05:04 PM
(Most people don't care as long as it has awesome gameplay.)
Title: Re: Best Donkey Kong design
Post by: Chupperson Weird on June 09, 2009, 09:08:40 PM
What character???
Title: Re: Best Donkey Kong design
Post by: PaperLuigi on June 09, 2009, 09:14:18 PM
God knows I'll get attacked for saying this but Donkey Kong 64 is DK's best game.
Title: Re: Best Donkey Kong design
Post by: ShadowBrain on June 10, 2009, 07:35:17 AM
God's right. I guess by process of elimination it could be considered to be in the top three or so DK games, but it's mostly just a Banjo-Kazooie-esque collectathon with all the things that go with it (irritating voice samples, frustrating boss battles, and one or two fairly off-putting elements that remind you Nintendo didn't really develop it). That's not to say I didn't enjoy it as a kid, though...
Title: Re: Best Donkey Kong design
Post by: PaperLuigi on June 10, 2009, 10:35:39 AM
Banjo-Kazooie ****ing rocks though. That's why I like Donkey Kong 64 so much.

I mean...am I the only one who appreciates so-called collectathons?
Title: Re: Best Donkey Kong design
Post by: The Chef on June 10, 2009, 01:49:03 PM
(Most people don't care as long as it has awesome gameplay.)

Most people are stupid.

Then again, JB and the bongos weren't that much of a success, so there's a better example.
Title: Re: Best Donkey Kong design
Post by: Silver Metaknight on June 10, 2009, 02:43:57 PM
The success of a game doesn't rely on quality as so much as advertisement or special effects.  Look at games like Kingdom Hearts, they did so well because of advertisement, but the gameplay itself is a different story.
Title: Re: Best Donkey Kong design
Post by: Turtlekid1 on June 10, 2009, 02:46:25 PM
>:C
Title: Re: Best Donkey Kong design
Post by: Silver Metaknight on June 10, 2009, 02:53:22 PM
What I mean by success is how many copies the game sold.  I mean, look at great games like Earthbound, they didn't sell so well, but its still an awesome game, better than most games out today.  In not saying that great games=bad sales or bad games=great sales, I'm saying that game quality=/=success of the game.
Title: Re: Best Donkey Kong design
Post by: Chupperson Weird on June 10, 2009, 03:36:05 PM
No, that's not what you're saying, according to your post.
Title: Re: Best Donkey Kong design
Post by: Silver Metaknight on June 10, 2009, 03:44:13 PM
I cleared the last post up.
Title: Re: Best Donkey Kong design
Post by: Chupperson Weird on June 10, 2009, 09:31:09 PM
Good work.
Title: Re: Best Donkey Kong design
Post by: Jake on June 11, 2009, 11:52:42 AM
Rare's design. It is, in my opinion, the coolest looking one probably because it was modeled on a real gorilla.

I wouldn't mind the toothy grin if it was more realistic and less creepy, like his grin in Brawl.
Title: Re: Best Donkey Kong design
Post by: Plumber X on June 20, 2009, 04:27:25 PM
For me, it'll always be the DKC Donkey, but my version of Diddy is DKC2.
Title: Re: Best Donkey Kong design
Post by: frostbite on June 21, 2009, 02:08:13 PM
This thread makes me miss Rare working for Nintendo. Maybe it'll happen again one day. I mean, Square seems to have mended their fences.
Title: Re: Best Donkey Kong design
Post by: PaperLuigi on June 21, 2009, 03:36:03 PM
Well, Microsoft owns Rare, so unless they go under...

Still, I miss Rare working for Nintendo too. Rare made some pretty kickass games back in the day like Banjo Kazooie, Donkey Kong Country, Donkey Kong 64, GoldenEye, Perfect Dark, etc.

EDIT: Doh. Sorry for the mistake.
Title: Re: Best Donkey Kong design
Post by: nensondubois on June 21, 2009, 04:21:40 PM
Well, Microsoft owns Nintendo, so unless they go under...

Still, I miss Rare working for Nintendo too. Rare made some pretty kickass games back in the day like Banjo Kazooie, Donkey Kong Country, Donkey Kong 64, GoldenEye, Perfect Dark, etc.

Wait... what?!? Not really

I miss Rare working with Nintendo also. Donkey Kong Country, Goldneye007 and Perfect Dark were good and now they just suck as a company. Maybe people should stop buying the new Rare games and tell them even though it probably won't bring them back in Nintendo's hands but it's still a funny idea.
Title: Re: Best Donkey Kong design
Post by: ShadowBrain on June 21, 2009, 09:40:35 PM
I bet they're kicking themselves in the face now that Nintendo's totally smoking Microsoft.
Title: Re: Best Donkey Kong design
Post by: Chupperson Weird on June 22, 2009, 10:15:57 AM
Nintendo sold Rare, guys.
Title: Re: Best Donkey Kong design
Post by: Lizard Dude on June 22, 2009, 04:42:36 PM
Rare seems to be happy where they are. I read an interview a few months back where a Rare guy was saying if they had still been with Nintendo they'd probably be being forced to work on Banjo-Kazooie 6 and not all the neat experiments they've been doing lately.
Title: Re: Best Donkey Kong design
Post by: Lizard Dude on June 22, 2009, 06:33:31 PM
I just think the smile makes him look stupid. He's ugly either way.
At least he looks somewhat cool and mysterious with that ominous smirk he usually has in Rare's official artwork. Nintendo's artwork makes him look like a moron.


Quote from: Shigeru Miyamoto
For Donkey Kong I wanted something to do with 'Kong' which kind of gives the idea of apes in Japanese and I came up with Donkey Kong because I heard that 'donkey' meant 'stupid' so I went with Donkey Kong. Unfortunately when I said that name to Nintendo of America nobody liked it and said that it didn't mean 'Stupid Ape' and they all laughed at me! But we went ahead with that name anyway.
Quote from: Shigeru Miyamoto
I heard that 'donkey' meant 'stupid' so I went with Donkey Kong.
Quote from: Shigeru Miyamoto
stupid
. (http://www.miyamotoshrine.com/theman/interviews/051601.shtml)
Title: Re: Best Donkey Kong design
Post by: CrossEyed7 on June 22, 2009, 06:40:01 PM
I wonder what life is like in the alternate universe where Miyamoto looked a few entries farther down in the thesaurus and named him Ass Monkey.
Title: Re: Best Donkey Kong design
Post by: PaperLuigi on June 22, 2009, 06:51:42 PM
Ugh...

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fjamie-online.com%2Frandom-jamz%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2009%2F06%2Ffacepalm.jpg&hash=4646714935beab069e95ad3b1c4b2b04403e1062)

LD, I know Donkey Kong is idiotic/unintelligent. I said "stupid" as in uncool and/or lame.
Title: Re: Best Donkey Kong design
Post by: Plumber X on June 22, 2009, 07:57:42 PM
I wonder what life is like in the alternate universe where Miyamoto looked a few entries farther down in the thesaurus and named him Ass Monkey.

Or in Universe #12853 where Shiggy named him Sphincter Chimp?
Title: Re: Best Donkey Kong design
Post by: ShadowBrain on June 23, 2009, 11:13:42 AM
Anus Ape.
Title: Re: Best Donkey Kong design
Post by: Plumber X on June 23, 2009, 04:02:02 PM
Anus Ape.

And Diddy is Asscrack Monkey
Title: Re: Best Donkey Kong design
Post by: Turtlekid1 on June 23, 2009, 04:05:36 PM
And this thread has gone to the dogs monkeys.
Title: Re: Best Donkey Kong design
Post by: CrossEyed7 on June 23, 2009, 05:15:10 PM
You know, it really only works with ass, since that's another word for donkey. Instead of coming up with other words for ass, you should either use synonyms of donkey or of stupid (i.e., Burro Kong or Dullard Kong).

Also, the point of my post with all the pictures a couple pages back was that there's two very different Nintendo designs of DK, and the current one is really quite similar to the Rare designs.
Title: Re: Best Donkey Kong design
Post by: ShadowBrain on June 23, 2009, 10:30:51 PM
You know, it really only works with ass, since that's another word for donkey. Instead of coming up with other words for ass, you should either use synonyms of donkey or of stupid (i.e., Burro Kong or Dullard Kong).
So that'd be a "no" on Colon Simian?

Also, though I know what it means, I literally don't think I've ever heard anyone use the word "dullard".
Title: Re: Best Donkey Kong design
Post by: BP on June 24, 2009, 12:43:32 AM
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmoonside.kontek.net%2Fscreenshots%2Fbrawl%2Fdoofykong.jpg&hash=5a20fd6303d1a174b87cfe865c44ba4bea8e4385)

The only difference I can see is... well, considering that the Kongs have retractable teeth in Brawl, nothing. Except their voices. I liked their voices in Donkey Kong 64 (I didn't play a lot of it but I do remember the voices). I just plain never liked the weird noises Donkey Kong made in Mario Kart (any) and I don't like monkey noises like those Diddy makes in Brawl. So whatever.
Title: Re: Best Donkey Kong design
Post by: ShadowBrain on June 24, 2009, 02:39:50 PM
^ DK Stares Into Your Soul

Anyway, I just thought of that scene with the, uh, monkey in Bruce Almighty.