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Video Games => Mario Chat => Topic started by: Clark Beyer on June 07, 2006, 03:59:12 PM
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I have always wondered whether or not the Paper Mario games were really set in a stage or not. I have come to the conclusion that they aren't. My proof: in Paper Mario: TTYD, the battle scenes are set on stages with an audience and dangerous props. HOWEVER, in the very beginning of the game, before the title screen, we find out that a storybook opens. Inside is the adventures of Paper Mario. It's like the player is reading a book on the past events of Mario. He is paper because it is being re-told in the book, and the pages are made of paper (obviously). Think Yoshi's Story.
My second reason: Even though there are deadly stage props and an audience in PM: TTYD during the battles, remember that the audience is also paper. And also, when Luigi is in the audience, he sometimes tosses items to Mario to use against enemies, which implies that Luigi is afraid that Mario may die, which further implies that this isn't a play, but is in fact an actual battle in Mario's history. Not to mention that the bulky bob-ombs in the audience can exlode and kill everyone in the audience. And Hooktail even eats half the audience during the boss fight, and gains HP from them.
So...my conclusion is: The Paper Mario games are set in the Mario universe. The stage is only used to make the battle system more unique.
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I agree. But only 50% because I do not think that the story is being retold in a book, especially PM:TTYD.
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Yeah. I agree. Only I will not post in this topic anymore because it's making me miss PMTTYD.
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Of course they're not set in a play. Doesn't take a genius to figure that out.
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I always thought they were set in video games.
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I always thought they were set in video games.
Yeah, but what I was trying to show was that they are not set in plays within video games.
One of my theories behind Mario being paper, though, was that Nintendo wanted to bring back the oldschool feel of Super Mario RPG. Because when I play Paper Mario, I feel like I'm playing a good ole SNES game.
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One of my theories behind Mario being paper, though, was that Nintendo wanted to bring back the oldschool feel of Super Mario RPG. Because when I play Paper Mario, I feel like I'm playing a good ole SNES game.
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That, or they're very creative.
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I agree 100% percent. Nintendo only did the battles on stage because how will Mario get Star Power if there wasn't an audience? Think about it.
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The star power could simply recharge over time.
Which basically is what it's doing.
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Um, no. In PMTTYD you get every bit of Star Power from the audience. Every little bit.
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But in Paper Mario 1 the Star Power recharges itself. The audience was just a visual gag wasn't really necassary.
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Well the star power in the first was from the star spirits. The star power in the 2nd is from the crystal stars.
They should recharge in the same fasion though.
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Yeah, but what I was trying to show was that they are not set in plays within video games.
One of my theories behind Mario being paper, though, was that Nintendo wanted to bring back the oldschool feel of Super Mario RPG. Because when I play Paper Mario, I feel like I'm playing a good ole SNES game.
What does SMRPG have to do with Mario being paper, though? Despite having similar battle systems, the two games were drastically different in terms of graphics. Paper Mario was obviously trying to go for a look of a pseudo-2D sidescroller, while SMRPG tried to create a completely pseudo-3D world.
PS- First Post. :D
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I think you make a good point here. I always just sorta ignored the audience and played as if it was really happening.
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Hewwo, Here's Sushie Boy! Back for Season Two! Now I agree that the audiunce was set so mario could recover star power. (Since the star spirits wheren't in the game). i agree with Shinigami, only in some places SMRPG tried to be a platformer. and Paper Mario was a combination of 2D/3D.
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(Since the star spirits wheren't in the game).
The star power Mario got was from the Crystal Stars though, not the Star Spirits.
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I liked the audience. It made the whole appearance across the screen look a lot...fuller.
Plus, it allowed little shy guys to drop great sacks of sand on your enemy! XD...... or you.
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For some reason Shy Guys wern't even enemies in the game {:^<
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Well, Yoshimastar, in the guide it says that the AUDIENCE recovers mario's star power.
BAM! Beat that!
EDIT:Don't you see when the crowd goes crazy for mario and [insert parter here] little stars fly out of them and go into marios star gauge?
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Audience: Gives you power with positive energy (or doesn't if they're displeased) so you can control the Crystal Stars
Crystal Stars: Don't know they're helping you or anything, just tools with strange power
You: Play the game, do your action commands, and use the Crystal Stars' special moves
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Then shouldn't the star power go to the audience if their the ones recovering it?
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Audience: Gives you power with positive energy (or doesn't if they're displeased) so you can control the Crystal Stars
They aren't supporting themselves, why would they get the star power?
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They didn't even have to put the audience there. They could've just as easily said that you were recovering the star power. The audience was a visual gag.
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No, you see, (Spoilers ahead) just before one of the Shadow Queen battles (I think the last one.), you'll see that all of the people that Mario meets up with wish him good luck before the battle, and that would replenish his star gauge, so that would be the same with the audience and appealing.
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I liked the audience,it gave the game a unique style.
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^ That's why it's there, but they could've easily not put in the game and made up some other excuse as to haw the Star Bar was replenished.
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I think the audience is there to give Mario some star power. Because when you appeal in a battle, you can actually see some gold dust-like stuff come from the audience and build up around the star meter.
Anyway...I'm just glad that the game itself is not a play. It just seems so much cooler when this game is part of Mario's true history as a video game hero.
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Plus at the very end
SPOILER
Mario was telling the adventure to Luigi. So it souldn't have been a play.
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i like spoilers because you learn.
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Had I been here a couple of hours ago I'd've said something like...
SPOILERS, CLICK HERE (http://themushroomkingdom.net/board/index.php?topic=8638.0)
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Has this been setteled yet or what?