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Author Topic: PM and PM: TTYD are not set in a play.  (Read 12524 times)

« on: June 07, 2006, 03:59:12 PM »
I have always wondered whether or not the Paper Mario games were really set in a stage or not.  I have come to the conclusion that they aren't.  My proof: in Paper Mario: TTYD, the battle scenes are set on stages with an audience and dangerous props.  HOWEVER, in the very beginning of the game, before the title screen, we find out that a storybook opens.  Inside is the adventures of Paper Mario.  It's like the player is reading a book on the past events of Mario.  He is paper because it is being re-told in the book, and the pages are made of paper (obviously).  Think Yoshi's Story.

My second reason: Even though there are deadly stage props and an audience in PM: TTYD during the battles, remember that the audience is also paper.  And also, when Luigi is in the audience, he sometimes tosses items to Mario to use against enemies, which implies that Luigi is afraid that Mario may die, which further implies that this isn't a play, but is in fact an actual battle in Mario's history.  Not to mention that the bulky bob-ombs in the audience can exlode and kill everyone in the audience.  And Hooktail even eats half the audience during the boss fight, and gains HP from them. 

So...my conclusion is: The Paper Mario games are set in the Mario universe.  The stage is only used to make the battle system more unique.

« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2006, 04:01:04 PM »
I agree. But only 50% because I do not think that the story is being retold in a book, especially PM:TTYD.
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« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2006, 04:25:09 PM »
Yeah. I agree. Only I will not post in this topic anymore because it's making me miss PMTTYD.
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« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2006, 08:23:20 PM »
Of course they're not set in a play. Doesn't take a genius to figure that out.
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« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2006, 01:59:54 AM »
I always thought they were set in video games.

« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2006, 10:33:23 AM »
I always thought they were set in video games.
Yeah, but what I was trying to show was that they are not set in plays within video games.

One of my theories behind Mario being paper, though, was that Nintendo wanted to bring back the oldschool feel of Super Mario RPG.  Because when I play Paper Mario, I feel like I'm playing a good ole SNES game.

« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2006, 05:58:56 PM »
One of my theories behind Mario being paper, though, was that Nintendo wanted to bring back the oldschool feel of Super Mario RPG.  Because when I play Paper Mario, I feel like I'm playing a good ole SNES game.
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« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2006, 03:39:49 PM »
I agree 100% percent. Nintendo only did the battles on stage because how will Mario get Star Power if there wasn't an audience? Think about it.
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« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2006, 05:22:25 PM »
The star power could simply recharge over time.

Which basically is what it's doing.
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« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2006, 09:56:28 PM »
Um, no. In PMTTYD you get every bit of Star Power from the audience. Every little bit.
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« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2006, 08:46:05 AM »
But in Paper Mario 1 the Star Power recharges itself. The audience was just a visual gag wasn't really necassary.

« Reply #11 on: June 11, 2006, 10:07:07 PM »
Well the star power in the first was from the star spirits. The star power in the 2nd is from the crystal stars.

They should recharge in the same fasion though.
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« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2006, 02:29:02 PM »
Yeah, but what I was trying to show was that they are not set in plays within video games.

One of my theories behind Mario being paper, though, was that Nintendo wanted to bring back the oldschool feel of Super Mario RPG.  Because when I play Paper Mario, I feel like I'm playing a good ole SNES game.

What does SMRPG have to do with Mario being paper, though? Despite having similar battle systems, the two games were drastically different in terms of graphics. Paper Mario was obviously trying to go for a look of a pseudo-2D sidescroller, while SMRPG tried to create a completely pseudo-3D world.

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« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2006, 02:48:26 PM »
I think you make a good point here. I always just sorta ignored the audience and played as if it was really happening.
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« Reply #14 on: June 15, 2006, 03:44:24 PM »
Hewwo, Here's Sushie Boy! Back for Season Two! Now I agree that the audiunce was set so mario could recover star power. (Since the star spirits wheren't in the game). i agree with Shinigami, only in some places SMRPG tried to be a platformer. and Paper Mario was a combination of 2D/3D.
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