Author Topic: Star Wars Episode III (Read 7409 times)

Koopaslaya · « **Reply #15 on:** May 28, 2005, 12:35:08 PM »

I definately read all of the posts in this topic...

Hirocon · « **Reply #16 on:** May 28, 2005, 02:36:47 PM »

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Oh come now, Lizard Dude. "Help me! I'm too weak! I can't...I can't...I'm too weak..." followed by "UNLIMITED POWER!" That was totally maniacal, totally diabolical, deliciously evil. You saw how Sidious slayed something like three Jedi in three seconds? And you expect me to believe he couldn't finish off one more? Sidious kept Windu alive and pretended that Windu was winning in order to force Anakin to come to his rescue, thereby committing himself to the dark side. Sidious could have overpowered Windu at any time if he wanted to.

I agree, Rex, that whole "absolutes" scene had some of the most painfully forced dialog in the movie.

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Luigison · « **Reply #17 on:** May 28, 2005, 06:37:46 PM »

Episode III Easter Egg Hunt

Lizard Dude · « **Reply #18 on:** May 28, 2005, 08:51:23 PM »

After thinking about it, I agree with you, Hirocon.

"All this guy ever does is eat, sleep, say stuff, DDR, and wear glasses."

smfan1085 · « **Reply #19 on:** May 28, 2005, 08:55:08 PM »

You're right, YSR, that "absolutes" line does sound dumb; but the movie itself sounds pretty cool, and I wish I could see it sometime. But I thought I heard one time that it's expected to be released on DVD but not VHS. I don't have a DVD player (though I would if I got a Revolution someday). Could someone fill me in on this?

Ever notice how the name "Playstation" sounds more kiddy than "Gamecube" or "Nintendo 64"?

Edited by - smfan1085 on 6/28/2005 7:38:01 PM

Chupperson Weird · « **Reply #20 on:** May 28, 2005, 08:55:46 PM »

"But there was one line in the movie that really rubbed me the wrong way. It was the part where Anakin said, 'If you aren't with me, you're against me' and then Obi Wan excalimed, 'Only a sith lord deals in absolutes!' What? How can you say there are no absolutes in this world? Is he absolutely sure about that? I'm sure that many religious people will also find that offensive."

I'm sure there are; I was just thinking about this today. I, however, agree with Obi-Wan on this. I don't particularly care to explain this. Context is everything. Sadly, from what I've seen, many "religious" people don't realize that.

smfan1085: VHS is being phased out. Jump on the DVD bandwagon before they introduce the next standard. And, if you want to see Episode III, go watch it in a theater.

Edited by - Chupperson Weird on 5/28/2005 7:59:40 PM

Suffix · « **Reply #21 on:** May 28, 2005, 09:12:04 PM »

I saw Episiode III recently, and all I really have to say is that it was persistantly disturbing, but rightfully so.

Hirocon · « **Reply #22 on:** May 30, 2005, 03:39:18 AM »

I just had an insight - perhaps Lucas included the "absolutes" scene in ep.III in order to contrast the Sith with the Jedi as portrayed by Obi-wan in his "certain point of view" speech in ep.VI. They're both stupid scenes, but they complement each other nicely in their stupidity.

TEM · « **Reply #23 on:** May 30, 2005, 07:30:07 AM »

I don't see the stupidity in either of those scenes.

Time slowed and Reality bent.
But on and on the Eggman went.

MEGAß¥TE · « **Reply #24 on:** May 30, 2005, 07:43:51 AM »

I think it was fairly clear -- at least it was to the audience in the Arclight -- that the "if you aren't with me" line was a direct reference to George W. Bush's infamous speech regarding the "war on terror". Also, Obi-Wan did not say that there are no absolutes. He basically said that you should not deal only in absolutes. This should not offend any religious (and if it does, I suggest they reconsider their religion).

TEM · « **Reply #25 on:** May 30, 2005, 07:55:42 AM »

Also, I think Mace Windu really DID beat Palpatine in the saber battle. You hear a reference to Windu's power earlier so it's not so unbelievable that he could take Sidious when the other 2 Jedi were taken out. I do agree that Palpatine was acting weak and feeble when he was electrocuting himself to sway Anakin over the edge. If Anakin hadn't arrived Windu would have killed him.

I read somewhere the Lucas wrote that line prior to George Bush saying his own. Would George Lucas really cheapen the Star Wars saga by using the dialogue to take a shot at the president? I hope not.

Edit: I misspelled Sidious, shame on me.

Time slowed and Reality bent.
But on and on the Eggman went.

Edited by - TEM on 5/30/2005 6:57:35 AM

MEGAß¥TE · « **Reply #26 on:** May 30, 2005, 08:20:36 AM »

The line was a direct reference. What was not a direct reference was the general storyline. He actually based the original story as a commentary against the Vietnam War, only to see similar events taking place now. As a man with as much influence as George Lucas, he certainly is willing to speak his mind about politics.

"Star Wars is a wakeup call to Americans about the erosion of democratic freedoms under George W. Bush, filmmaker George Lucas said yesterday.

"Lucas, responding to a question from the Sun at a Cannes Film Festival press conference, said he first wrote the framework of Star Wars in 1971 when reacting to then U.S. President Richard Nixon and the on-going events of the Vietnam War. But the story still has relevance today, he said, and is part of a pattern he has noticed in his readings of history.

" 'I didn't think it was going to get quite this close,' he said of the parallels between the Nixon era and the current Bush presidency, which has been sacrificing freedoms in the interests of national security. 'It is just one of those re-occurring things. I hope this doesn't come true in our country. Maybe the film will awaken people to the situation of how dangerous it is.' "

The Empire Strikes Bush

Edited by - MegaByte on 5/30/2005 7:29:59 AM