super mario bros. 3:part 2

[Chupperson Weird]

Also you did not address the fact that when the original ones where out Nintendo was top dog and it was not until Gamecube that they fell behind PS2 and Xbox.

Yeah, maybe that's because PS2 and Xbox happened when GameCube did! In all seriousness though, N64 limped behind PSX as well, and that was with Super Mario 64 (a universally praised Mario game) as a launch title. No, it wasn't 2D, nor should it have been. It isn't just the Mario games dictating how well the consoles will do.

Notice since Galaxy is coming out, Wii is doing better.

Actually since the Wii came out, it's been doing better. More thanks to Wii Sports (you know, the pack-in game) than Mario Galaxy. Seriously, Mario Galaxy's announcement and the Wii's success don't have any correlation.

[Toad]

Also putting characters like Waluigi in the game is novel because no Mario game has them.  No Mario game has Wart, King K Rool, Bowser, Wario, Waluigi, and King DeDeDe as bad guys.

King K Rool and King Dedede are not Mario enemies, so they are likely not going to appear in a Mario game (save for the SSB series, which is not a Mario game either..)

I agree about using Wart, Wario and Waluigi more often, though. Wart hasn't been seen since SMB2, yet we keep seeing Birdo, Shyguy, Bob-ombs, and such..

[PaperLuigi]

Yeah, I think they should use Waluigi more often. He's so undeveloped; there's a lot Nintendo could do with this character. They’ve made good choices with Wario, and he's become quite an individual over the years. If Waluigi could draw in fans doing something no other Mario character would dare (the crotch chop), then just think of all the things Nintendo could have him do. He'd be so vulgar/crude, every prepubescent kid out there would fall in love with him and his antics.

Okay, so I may  sound a bit sarcastic, but I mean it when I say Waluigi needs to be pushed. He's grown on me despite his extremely flat characteristics, so I can't imagine how much I'd like him if he had his own game.

[Chupperson Weird]

Waluigi is so undeveloped that they should forget he ever existed. That would be super wonderful.

[The Chef]

Mario himself is less developed than Waluigi in terms of character. Should they forget about him too?

[Bigluigifan1.0]

No, I think Mario has more character than Waluigi. I mean, he's just one of the characters that was thrown in there for Spin-off games and sports. I don't even think he has much character outside of being like Wario.

[PaperLuigi]

Well, let's compare characteristics to see who has more "character":

Waluigi: No back story, has no family or friends other than Wario (weather they are brothers or not has yet to be confirmed), hates Luigi, is shown to be very crude/vulgar towards his fellow peers, attempted world domination once and is hard working according to a few sources.

That's about it for Waluigi. His motives, place of origin and attitude remain a mystery. But does this mean they should trash Waluigi? Let's look at Mario's characteristcs....during his very first game.

Mario (1981): No back story, has no family or friends other than Pauline, hates Donkey Kong, has a sense of justice and is somewhat of a construction worker.

I know what you may be thinking. "But that's just one year of Mario's life. Waluigi's list spans his entire life time." Yes, that's true, but if Waluigi had as many opportunities as Mario did in the past, mabey he'd grow in character too. Let's look at Mario, after 100 games or so.

Mario: Back story, is shown to have multiple relationships with friends and peers, has a strong sense of justice as well as other traits (happy, determined, brave, caring, strong)...the list goes on.

Now I'm not saying Waluigi should get 100 games; characters don't need 100 games to develope. All they really need is one. In some cases, like Mario, they need a few more. I think that if Waluigi was given a chance, he could at least grow to be admired the same way fans love Wario. But I doubt that's gonna happen any time soon. He came in too late in the game; nothing outside of a DS game or a Wii game could save him now, and I don’t think Nintendo wants to do that.

[volbound1700]

The characters have limited personality so that they can kind of fit your personality.  That was the point of original NES... the characters where original made so that they could be anybody. 

[volbound1700]

Also technically DK's world has to be in the same world as the Mushroom Kingdom since characters from DK find themselves in Mario's world. 

I say Kirby's land will be accessible by traveling into space and out to the star.

The reason to put Kirby, DK, and Diddy in is to have more diversity as heroes and new exciting worlds to go to.

Bowser will be the ultimate boss but a long the way you have to fight mini quests and defeat other bosses (In fact I would have a seperate story where Mario stumbles into both lands on his quests to defeat Bowser and has to aid Kirby and DK that will later allow them to be unlocked and join Mario's party).

I mean for the game to be 4 player. 

Playable Heroes

Toad, Yoshi, Luigi, Mario, DK (unlockable), Diddy Kong (unlockable), Kirby (unlockable), Daisy (possibly unlockable once you rescue her).

Wario and Waluigi would be bosses of the first world.  I imagine them using an attack by throwing bomb-ombs at you.  I plan to have them serve a role like Knuckles did in Sonic 3 later on throughout the game jumping up every once in a while to hamper or sometimes even aid you.  The are neutral antagonists to the story. 

I also forgat, Yoshis Island will also be a world after sea world and before sky world. 

[PaperLuigi]

The characters have limited personality so that they can kind of fit your personality.  That was the point of original NES... the characters where original made so that they could be anybody. 

But....that's not my point.

[Kojinka]

Please note that I haven't played any of the Kirby games, but how exactly does Kirby's world connect with Mario's, other than the fact that the characters in both worlds are Nintendo characters?  And please do not pull some hairbrained fan theory out of your butt; I want an actual theory using information that comes from the games.  Otherwise, Kirby cannot be in a game like that.

[PaperLuigi]

I'm slightly annoyed that my well thought out post will go unnoticed because volbound1700 decided to talk about his "game" again.

Volbound1700, mabey your game would do well as a fanfic. This is just some advice.

[BP]

This is almost comical.

How exactly does Kirby's world connect with Mario's?

In no way at all.

[ShadowBrain]

Wait, what is this topic supposed to be about, anyway?

Oh, well. Here's where I stand: All the main Mario series games have been fine (yes, even Sunshine, which I got bak to working on again. I just wish there had been more stages), but New SMB is a nostalgic fanservice, not an actual continuation of the series--and Kirby and Mario mix like pasta and cotton candy (though I admire your pluck at suggesting some fresh ideas). And Galaxy is gonna be indescribably rad.

[Kojinka]

This is almost comical.In no way at all.

I was trying to make a point that Volbound's idea for a video game will never happen outside fanfiction.