Religion

[Maestro]

I also went to Purgatory on the Inferno Test.  Although, I don't believe in Purgatory, I believe you will go straight to Heaven when you die.  That is if you are indeed going to Heaven.  However, I do believe in different levels of Hell.  The Bible even states that there are different levels in Hell.

[Chupperson Weird]

I don't want to take that test.
And I don't believe in Purgatory either. I didn't even know what it was until recently.

[Sapphira]

I don't believe in that junk, either. It's either Heaven or...the "other" very-hot, not-so-nice place. No exceptions. You die, you go to one or the other. But it's YOUR choice as to WHERE you go.

...Although there might *be* a waiting place similar to heaven after we die. I mean, God said he's still working on and expanding heaven or our "paradise" until everyone who's going is going. Also, I think we might have to wait until Judgement Day. A temporary heaven, perhaps?

Did you know there will be *TWO* judgements? The pass or fail in getting into heaven, and then a judgement between the saved? Although you don't get INTO heaven because of good works, they ARE rewarded. The more saintly you are (genuinely), the more God will bless you in heaven? He takes the our deeds and burns them in a great fire. The bad things will shrivel into nothingness, but ashes of the good things will become gold and treasures to give to God. Makes you want to live as godly as you can, huh?

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Deep inside us all is a little green elf telling us to burn things.

[Lizard Dude]

What the dukar?

"While I don't believe in "evolution"-evolution, I do believe in change of things over time"

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

“I’m a stupid fatty and I love to play with my Easy Bake oven!”

[Sapphira]

huh?

[Lizard Dude]

Look ma! I discovered the HTML secret!

“I’m a stupid fatty and I love to play with my Easy Bake oven!”

[Lizard Dude]

Anyway, "evolution"-evolution and the gradual change of things over time are the same thing.

“I’m a stupid fatty and I love to play with my Easy Bake oven!”

[Sapphira]

I meant that things do change, but not like that. "Evolution"-evolution meaning that one species can turn into another. I believe a "breed" can change into another, thru genetics, but not species.

Evoultion: a house cat was once a tiger.
Change (thru Genetics): A golden retriever was once a mixed breed. Thru taking dogs of simlar traits and continuing to mix them together, eventually they formed one breed.

There's a big difference.

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Deep inside us all is a little green elf telling us to burn things.

[Luigison]

The below Simpsons quote made me think of this thread.
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Random Signature:
"Marge, I agree with you -- in theory. In theory, communism works. In theory."

Edited by - Luigison on 6/3/2003 9:30:35 PM

[Lizard Dude]

I thought this to myself when I was stacking wood yesterday: Why do some people have no faith in some fairly logical research and infinite faith in a Book?

Beats me, oh well.

“I’m a stupid fatty and I love to play with my Easy Bake oven!”

[Sapphira]

Because NOTHING in that Book can be proven WRONG. Almost EVERYTHING in it has BEEN PROVEN TRUE. Logic would conclude that the rest is true, too.

Like I said, actually *prove* ONE thing in the Bible wrong, and I'll believe you.

BTW, I took a "Spiritual Gifts Test" and mine are Faith (38/40), Teaching (38), Knowledge, Discernment (seeing right from wrong), and Prophecy/Perceiving. Having 5 out of 16 possible gifts is pretty good, if you ask me. So DON'T MESS WITH ME! I'll defend my beliefs to the last straw and prove anyone against them WRONG. :P

...I also found a "Passion" test. I'm most passionate about something I believe in.


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Deep inside us all is a little green elf telling us to burn things.

Edited by - Sapphira on 6/4/2003 4:46:43 PM

[Insane Steve]

Can you give me the adress to the "Spiritual Gifts" test so I can be told that I'm a total waste spiritually? Please? That seems like fun.

Congratulations! You have just been blessed by the wisdom of Steve.

[Sapphira]

Actually, it's not an online test. It's a packet my parents got from our church. I'll gladly list the spiritual gifts, though.

-Administering/Ruling
-Apostleship/Pioneering (going to a new place--I got the lowest score possible on this one :P)
-Discernment
-Evangelism
-Encouraging/Counseling
-Faith
-Giving
-Hospitality (my next lowest)
-Knowledge
-Leadership
-Showing Mercy
-Prophecy/Perceiving
-Pastoring/Shepherding
-Serving/Ministry
-Teaching
-Wisdom

And EVERYONE has at least ONE gift. Whether they use it for God or not...
I'd definitely say you have the Gift of Knowledge, Steve.

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Deep inside us all is a little green elf telling us to burn things.

[Insane Steve]

Well, I'll do a self-evaluation then:

-Administering/Ruling - Na, I'm not confident in myself.
-Apostleship/Pioneering - .... Nope. Not too adventurous here.
-Discernment - Hahahahahahahahahahaha NO.
-Evangelism - What is this? Does that mean preaching? Nope.
-Encouraging/Counseling - I need counseling myself, how can I do this?
-Faith - I don't even have faith in myself.
-Giving - Only at my convenience. So no.
-Hospitality - I'm never a hopsitable person.
-Knowledge - Depends on what kind of knowledge.
-Leadership - (See Administering/Ruling)
-Showing Mercy - ... HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! gfioas *smacks head on keyboard in laughter* NOPE.
-Prophecy/Perceiving - Usually no. Sometimes though.
-Pastoring/Shepherding - I don't have a way with sheep.
-Serving/Ministry - I'm not the kind of person who throws himself into servitude. So no.
-Teaching - Meh, depends on the topic.
-Wisdom - Hmmmmmph. Maybe. Though I'm A LOT more wise than your average person:

Actual words of wisdom from Amanda, this one girl I know from school:
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Anyone who drinks [cola] should be shot. (As this was said, I was sucking down a Pepsi)

Amanda: This one kid is such a JERK! I clearly stated that I wanted a piece of bacon pizza, and this guy in front of me takes the last piece of bacon pizza when I CLEARLY said that I wanted bacon pizza!
Me: And why do YOU deserve it? He was there first...
Amanda: Because I'm a girl!

(That last quote got me mad enough to leave the lunch table.)

Amanda: Adam, look! *points at the Jello Adam is eating*
Adam: What?
Amanda: Your Jello is orange!

*Amanda walks to our table and points at my two friends, back and forth, for about 30 seconds on end.*
Me: What in the hell are you doing?
Amanda: Look! They're both wearing yellow shirts!

Me: Hey, look at this casino game I made!
*Amanda plays one game of Blackjack and loses*
Amanda: I lost?? This game sucks! You suck at making games, Steve!

And oh yes, almost forgot: Amanda is almost 18 years old.

So ya. I guess I have SOME gifts... Maybe.

Congratulations! You have just been blessed by the wisdom of Steve.

[Sapphira]

Okay...This "Amanda" has some strange sense of reasoning...

Here's me, broken down more specifically:

-Administering/Ruling: Average
-Apostleship/Pioneering: Hahahahahaha! Me? *GO* somewhere to help others!! Right!
-Discernment: 4th place gift
-Evangelism: average
-Encouraging/Counseling: average
-Faith: Tied for #1 gift
-Giving: Hahahahaha!!! Moving on...
-Hospitality: BWAHAHAHAHA!!! That's a good one!
-Knowledge: 3rd place gift
-Leadership: Average
-Showing Mercy: Average
-Prophecy/Perceiving: #5 gift. But VERY, VERY there in a freaky way...
-Pastoring/Shepherding: on the low side...
-Serving/Ministry: HAHAHAHAHA!! No... Well, I can be. Depends on my mood and who I'm with... On the low side...
-Teaching: Tied for #1 gift
-Wisdom: average


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Deep inside us all is a little green elf telling us to burn things.