Author Topic: It would be cool to have another Mario game on the theme of SMB 2 American (Read 24735 times)

volbound1700 · « **on:** November 18, 2007, 09:23:08 PM »

Following a storyline or theme of Super Mario Brothers 2 for NES. It would be cool to see some of the boses like Wart and Mouser return. Also neat to see the potions and vases, etc.

silverstarman · « **Reply #1 on:** November 18, 2007, 09:25:00 PM »

That would be nice, actually.

Linkin800 · « **Reply #2 on:** November 18, 2007, 11:54:43 PM »

wow i just thought of somthing that nintendo could do. You know how smb 2 was all part of Mario's dream? Well what if they make it so that was a prediction Mario was seeing and the Mushroom Kingdom is attacked by Wart and stuff.

But since most of this was a part of Mario's dream i dont think anyone from the game would be back.

But that leaves somthing wrong. Shyguys and Birdo are in the Mario games when they were also just part of Mario's dream. Weird huh?

MEGAß¥TE · « **Reply #3 on:** November 18, 2007, 11:56:34 PM »

Because you can never integrate reality with dreams *roll-eyes*

Vidgmchtr · « **Reply #4 on:** November 19, 2007, 12:43:50 AM »

It would be cool if we could (basically) stop complaining about how today's Mario games are terrible compared to the Mario games of the 80s and early 90s.

Lizard Dude · « **Reply #5 on:** November 19, 2007, 04:55:56 AM »

No one is saying that you Negative Nancy.

It's totally true that Mouser and Wart get the shaft.

Mr.Toadsworth · « **Reply #6 on:** November 19, 2007, 05:54:32 AM »

ㅤ ㅤ

Boo Dudley · « **Reply #7 on:** November 19, 2007, 12:31:31 PM »

Quote from: Mr.Toadsworth on November 19, 2007, 05:54:32 AM

And don't forget the pokeys and bob-ombs

and sparkys.

Vidgmchtr · « **Reply #8 on:** November 19, 2007, 12:52:31 PM »

Quote from: Lizard Dude on November 19, 2007, 04:55:56 AM

No one is saying that you Negative Nancy.

It's totally true that Mouser and Wart get the shaft.

Not "saying", no, but I get the vibe that it's being implied, which is why I put basically in parentheses, and considering his posts in the past that always DID say that and his yearning for Mario games to be like yesteryear's, it's obvious why I think that way.

Chupperson Weird · « **Reply #9 on:** November 19, 2007, 12:53:35 PM »

Yeah that wasn't implied in any way in this thread. At all.

Vidgmchtr · « **Reply #10 on:** November 19, 2007, 12:56:38 PM »

Quote from: Vidgmchtr on November 19, 2007, 12:52:31 PM

but I get the vibe that it's being implied

!=

Quote from: Vidgmchtr on November 19, 2007, 12:52:31 PM

but it's being implied

Yeah, never said it was, I just thought it was.

Chupperson Weird · « **Reply #11 on:** November 19, 2007, 02:36:32 PM »

And I told you it wasn't. Where's the problem here?

Metric · « **Reply #12 on:** November 19, 2007, 07:29:51 PM »

Mario 2 USA sucks noodles.

Chupperson Weird · « **Reply #13 on:** November 19, 2007, 08:31:34 PM »

Well, noodles are good, and so is SMB2USA.

volbound1700 · « **Reply #14 on:** November 20, 2007, 09:29:10 AM »

Super Mario Galaxy rocks (so much for modern mario games stink).

However, I would love to see a new storyline besides Bowser and many of the SMB2 characters deserve a return.

And PLEASE for the love of God put the koopalings back in the next major Mario Game. I don't care if Bower Jr. is with them or not but they deserve a return and it doesn't make much sense in the storyline unless Mario killed them all in SMW.

Chupperson Weird · « **Reply #15 on:** November 20, 2007, 11:02:11 AM »

There is no storyline.

goodie · « **Reply #16 on:** November 20, 2007, 01:08:02 PM »

No, but there should be.

Chupperson Weird · « **Reply #17 on:** November 20, 2007, 01:32:34 PM »

Where's your proof?

goodie · « **Reply #18 on:** November 20, 2007, 04:21:50 PM »

Because things that have actual storylines are usually more interesting.

Chupperson Weird · « **Reply #19 on:** November 20, 2007, 04:28:48 PM »

I dunno, I think Mario has done fine so far not trying to be "interesting" and just being fun to play.

goodie · « **Reply #20 on:** November 20, 2007, 04:37:23 PM »

Well, the Mario RPGs had more of a storyline and ended up being more fun (in my opinion). So I think extending that into a big continuous story might be even better. Maybe its just me, but story-lacking games just seem less fun.

volbound1700 · « **Reply #21 on:** November 25, 2007, 01:11:16 AM »

I just get annoyed by Nintendo making all these villians: 7 koopalings, Wart, Mouser, Tryclyde, Taratanga, Wario, DK, DK Jr., and Waluigi but then we never see them again after their platform series.

I would love to see them come back as allies of Bowser or as totally new enemies in their own right.

Chupperson Weird · « **Reply #22 on:** November 25, 2007, 01:54:17 AM »

It's Tatanga. There is no such thing as "Taratanga".
Old enemies cannot come back as "totally new enemies".

Boo Dudley · « **Reply #23 on:** November 25, 2007, 02:42:23 PM »

Why is Wario up there? He had his own, and very good, platforming franchises that went on to be absorbed back into the main Mario series.

Yes, I know, I'm probably the only Wario fan that absolutely despises the existence of Waluigi.

Linkin800 · « **Reply #24 on:** November 25, 2007, 04:03:54 PM »

I was hoping for Nintendo to make a Wario Land 5 for the Wii. It would have the same level look like in Wario World but with his powers to transform into diffrent things. I mean what the heck happend to that they all of asuden just vanish that idea and start doing other things to make it dumb.

Like Wario Master of Disguise I thogutht they were bringing back the tranfroming thing but NO! We got this game that made Wario look like he cant do a good game for crap. I liked WMOD but it just dident make it feel like a REAL Wario game. (I love the Wario Ware games though. Thier awsome)

goodie · « **Reply #25 on:** November 25, 2007, 04:09:22 PM »

Quote from: Linkin800 on November 25, 2007, 04:03:54 PM

I was hoping for Nintendo to make a Wario Land 5 for the Wii. It would have the same level look like in Wario World but with his powers to transform into diffrent things.

I like that idea. I enjoyed Wario World quite a bit. It was just way too short, and a little too easy.

silverstarman · « **Reply #26 on:** November 25, 2007, 05:09:02 PM »

It would be great to see a Wario platformer rendered in 3D

Chupperson Weird · « **Reply #27 on:** November 25, 2007, 06:47:30 PM »

Wario World?

silverstarman · « **Reply #28 on:** November 25, 2007, 07:20:56 PM »

I mean a Platformer, like what they did with NSMB.

volbound1700 · « **Reply #29 on:** November 25, 2007, 10:09:43 PM »

Wario needs to be in a game with Mario again as a villian or anti-hero.

silverstarman · « **Reply #30 on:** November 26, 2007, 02:17:17 PM »

I think they should make a game where Mario and Wario fight side-by-side.

volbound1700 · « **Reply #31 on:** November 27, 2007, 12:58:52 PM »

Quote from: silverstarman on November 26, 2007, 02:17:17 PM

I think they should make a game where Mario and Wario fight side-by-side.

I could be sarcastic and see Super Smash Brothers Brawl like people have done with me about multiplayer games but I know what you mean.

I think a storyline different from the usually Bowser stealing Peach would be great. Even though that storyline is classic and is Mario. I think Wario could team up as an anti-hero like Knuckles does with Sonic later in Sonic and Knuckles for Genesis or the way Shadow does in Sonic Adventure 2.

However, Wario still needs to be a greedy selfish egotistical ******* like he always is. That makes Wario.

megamush · « **Reply #32 on:** February 19, 2008, 04:54:13 PM »

how bout' a new mario game where Mario turns evil and Luigi must try to save him

silverstarman · « **Reply #33 on:** February 19, 2008, 05:01:51 PM »

I'd love to see a game where you can play as mario or wario, each defeating bowser for a different goal. Just sayin'.

Kojinka · « **Reply #34 on:** February 19, 2008, 05:22:32 PM »

Darn kids with your necrobumping! *waves cane*

The Chef · « **Reply #35 on:** February 19, 2008, 05:51:42 PM »

Wario was on Mario's side in Super Mario 64 DS and Hudson seems to love portraying him amongst the good guys in their Mario Party series (seriously, I think the only time they ever actually acted in-character was Mario Party 3).

I think Mario vs. Donkey Kong 3: Wario vs. Donkey Kong would be quite pwnsome.

SushieBoy · « **Reply #36 on:** February 19, 2008, 06:53:32 PM »

Quote from: megamush on February 19, 2008, 04:54:13 PM

how bout' a new mario game where Mario turns evil and Luigi must try to save him

How about a new Mario game where you have to go around random forums and stop members from bumping old threads?

goodie · « **Reply #37 on:** February 20, 2008, 09:14:59 AM »

Would you have preferred them to make another thread of the exact same subject?

ShadowBrain · « **Reply #38 on:** February 20, 2008, 10:55:02 PM »

Yeah, I really would like to know which of those two is preferable.

Lizard Dude · « **Reply #39 on:** February 21, 2008, 01:35:04 AM »

The self-appointed forum police will yell at you for both, so basically don't post. And especially don't double post.

Lizard Dude · « **Reply #40 on:** February 21, 2008, 08:44:33 PM »

They really hate that.

Suffix · « **Reply #41 on:** February 21, 2008, 10:31:36 PM »

* Suffix shrugs

I ruined his joke, then brought it back. I hate to be inconsistent, you see, especially in the sub-forum I'm most responsible for. That being said, you can push any angst related to the subject to the Newly Opened "Why?" thread.

megamush · « **Reply #42 on:** February 21, 2008, 10:39:55 PM »

Quote from: Suffix on February 21, 2008, 10:31:36 PM

* Suffix shrugs

I ruined his joke, then brought it back. I hate to be inconsistent, you see, especially in the sub-forum I'm most responsible for. That being said, you can push any angst related to the subject to the Newly Opened "Why?" thread.

created by me!

Lizard Dude · « **Reply #43 on:** February 22, 2008, 11:22:02 PM »

"My superpower is stating the obvious."

Mario Maniac · « **Reply #44 on:** February 24, 2008, 08:18:15 PM »

Quote from: Linkin800 on November 25, 2007, 04:03:54 PM

I was hoping for Nintendo to make a Wario Land 5 for the Wii. It would have the same level look like in Wario World but with his powers to transform into diffrent things. I mean what the heck happend to that they all of asuden just vanish that idea and start doing other things to make it dumb.

Like Wario Master of Disguise I thogutht they were bringing back the tranfroming thing but NO! We got this game that made Wario look like he cant do a good game for crap. I liked WMOD but it just dident make it feel like a REAL Wario game. (I love the Wario Ware games though. Thier awsome)

Wow, quite the change in topic. Nintendo should make a new Wario Land game for the DS in the vain of Wario Land 1, 2, or 3. Wario Land 4 was good but it was way too short.

And yes a new SMB2-style game would be awesome! "New Super Mario Bros. 2" perhaps?

I also don't get how enemies from SMB2 are in newer Mario games. SMB2 was originally a non-Mario game called Doki Doki Panic (as most of us are aware), so for those enemies and items to reappear in newer Mario games (SM64, Yoshi's Island, Mario Galaxy, etc.) is kind of strange.

Chupperson Weird · « **Reply #45 on:** February 24, 2008, 08:50:01 PM »

? They started putting Bob-ombs in other games starting with SMB3. They put Ninjis and Bob-ombs (and Pidgits) in SMW. Putting Shy Guys into Yoshi's Island is only natural. After that, you have Birdo and numerous Shy Guys in SMRPG, and it just kept going. Did you not play any games?

silverstarman · « **Reply #46 on:** February 24, 2008, 09:05:32 PM »

It's kinda hard to believe that all those enemies became Mario characters after being in a game that didn't have anyhting to do with Mario in the first place. (Doki Doki Panic, for those who don't know what game I'm talking about.)

Bag of Magic Food · « **Reply #47 on:** February 24, 2008, 10:37:39 PM »

Well, believe it.

Quote from: Chupperson Weird on February 24, 2008, 08:50:01 PM

They put Ninjis and Bob-ombs (and Pidgits) in SMW.

You forgot Pokey! </GWBush>

Kojinka · « **Reply #48 on:** February 24, 2008, 11:19:58 PM »

Quote from: Chupperson Weird on February 24, 2008, 08:50:01 PM

? They started putting Bob-ombs in other games starting with SMB3. They put Ninjis and Bob-ombs (and Pidgits) in SMW. Putting Shy Guys into Yoshi's Island is only natural. After that, you have Birdo and numerous Shy Guys in SMRPG, and it just kept going. Did you not play any games?

Now, if they'd bring Wart back for something, that'd be awesome.

Jman · « **Reply #49 on:** February 25, 2008, 01:56:34 AM »

They should have put Wart in as a background object on the SMB2 stage in Melee. Actually, they could have put him in Brawl. Then you could have a four way battle: Bowser vs Wart vs Wario vs Donkey Kong. That's a lot of villain mass right there.

ShadowBrain · « **Reply #50 on:** February 25, 2008, 08:18:05 AM »

I know... where's Wart these days? Was he even a trophy in Melee? I can't remember...

Linkin800 · « **Reply #51 on:** February 25, 2008, 03:40:49 PM »

Once again megamush used his mighty powers to bump another thread! But anyways I heard something about copy right issues so Nintendo cant use Wart in their games but could use the other characters. But it probably not true since they used him in Super Mario Advance.

megamush · « **Reply #52 on:** February 25, 2008, 04:56:36 PM »

Quote from: Linkin800 on February 25, 2008, 03:40:49 PM

Once again megamush used his mighty powers to bump another thread! But anyways I heard something about copy right issues so Nintendo cant use Wart in their games but could use the other characters. But it probably not true since they used him in Super Mario Advance.

I have the power of bumping!

goodie · « **Reply #53 on:** February 25, 2008, 05:18:21 PM »

Quote from: Linkin800 on February 25, 2008, 03:40:49 PM

I heard something about copy right issues so Nintendo cant use Wart in their games but could use the other characters.

That seems very unlikely. If they created the character, they can do whatever they want with it.

Chupperson Weird · « **Reply #54 on:** February 25, 2008, 06:03:13 PM »

Yeah, it would be pretty hard to be unable to use a character due to owning the copyright on it.

missingno · « **Reply #55 on:** February 26, 2008, 12:14:06 AM »

I'd like to see enemies of SMB2(US) return.

Esp. Mouser, he was rad.

Kojinka · « **Reply #56 on:** February 26, 2008, 02:20:17 PM »

Quote from: missingno on February 26, 2008, 12:14:06 AM

I'd like to see enemies of SMB2(US) return.

Esp. Mouser, he was rad.

Most of them have returned at least once.

missingno · « **Reply #57 on:** February 26, 2008, 11:27:40 PM »

I mean, the ones that have not returned.
And the ones that hardly returned, like maybe once or twice, it'd be nice to see them again. Such as Birdo in a non-spinoff.

Naturally, Shy Guys have returned multiple times, as have others.

Jman · « **Reply #58 on:** February 26, 2008, 11:33:46 PM »

Quote from: ShadowBrain on February 25, 2008, 08:18:05 AM

I know... where's Wart these days? Was he even a trophy in Melee? I can't remember...

I don't think so...I know for a fact that Birdo was. Then once you get that trophy, Mushroom Kingdom II stage is unlocked.

missingno · « **Reply #59 on:** February 26, 2008, 11:37:16 PM »

Nope, Wart isn't a trophy. He needs to return, he was a cool boss.

MEGAß¥TE · « **Reply #60 on:** February 27, 2008, 03:49:00 AM »

Wart returned briefly in Link's Awakening.
Wart seems to only exist in dreams.

ShadowBrain · « **Reply #61 on:** February 27, 2008, 07:46:33 AM »

Quote from: MEGAß¥TE on February 27, 2008, 03:49:00 AM

Wart returned briefly in Link's Awakening.

Oh, yeah, that one "Mamu" dude, or whatever... but, I mean, a new Mario game appearance, of course.

Kojinka · « **Reply #62 on:** February 27, 2008, 09:45:45 AM »

Quote from: missingno on February 26, 2008, 11:27:40 PM

I mean, the ones that have not returned.
And the ones that hardly returned, like maybe once or twice, it'd be nice to see them again. Such as Birdo in a non-spinoff.

Superstar Saga is a spinoff?

silverstarman · « **Reply #63 on:** February 27, 2008, 02:01:06 PM »

No, it's not.

missingno · « **Reply #64 on:** February 27, 2008, 02:42:57 PM »

Quote from: Kojinka on February 27, 2008, 09:45:45 AM

Superstar Saga is a spinoff?

I mean, in a platformer.

Chupperson Weird · « **Reply #65 on:** February 27, 2008, 03:26:03 PM »

Kojinka forgot SMRPG.

missingno · « **Reply #66 on:** February 27, 2008, 03:30:23 PM »

Well, in some senses, the RPG's are a spinoff. Or rather, I'd put them into their own category.

Kojinka · « **Reply #67 on:** February 27, 2008, 03:43:17 PM »

Quote from: Chupperson Weird on February 27, 2008, 03:26:03 PM

Kojinka forgot SMRPG.

I'm not surprised. I never got very far on the ROM I have. I'm still waiting for Square to get their act together and re-release the game on either VC or DS.

Chupperson Weird · « **Reply #68 on:** February 27, 2008, 05:11:05 PM »

I'm waiting for you to get your act together and buy the game on SNES.

missingno · « **Reply #69 on:** February 27, 2008, 06:27:46 PM »

I hope to one day find a copy of SMRPG, that isn't outrageously expensive.

silverstarman · « **Reply #70 on:** February 27, 2008, 08:10:49 PM »

Quote from: Chupperson Weird on February 27, 2008, 05:11:05 PM

I'm waiting for you to get your act together and buy the game on SNES.

Maybe he doesn't have the an SNES.

megamush · « **Reply #71 on:** February 27, 2008, 08:25:20 PM »

Quote from: silverstarman on February 27, 2008, 08:10:49 PM

Maybe he doesn't have the an SNES.

um, she

ShadowBrain · « **Reply #72 on:** February 27, 2008, 10:04:33 PM »

Quote from: missingno on February 27, 2008, 03:30:23 PM

Well, in some senses, the RPG's are a spinoff. Or rather, I'd put them into their own category.

What constitutes a spin-off, anway? A game in a series that isn't the same genre as the first one? Wouldn't that make Super Mario Bros. a spin-off of Mario Bros.? Just thinking aloud, here.

Chupperson Weird · « **Reply #73 on:** February 27, 2008, 10:30:21 PM »

Mario Bros. and Super Mario Bros. are both 2D platformers.

Bag of Magic Food · « **Reply #74 on:** February 28, 2008, 12:57:51 AM »

And isn't Hotel Mario a 2D platformer? But this site calls it a puzzle. I don't understand.

Kojinka · « **Reply #75 on:** February 28, 2008, 06:38:54 AM »

Quote from: silverstarman on February 27, 2008, 08:10:49 PM

Maybe he doesn't have the an SNES.

You're half right. I don't have a SNES.

ShadowBrain · « **Reply #76 on:** February 28, 2008, 07:53:07 AM »

Quote from: Chupperson Weird on February 27, 2008, 10:30:21 PM

Mario Bros. and Super Mario Bros. are both 2D platformers.

...What genre is Mario Bros., anyway? Because it definitely doesn't seem like a 2D platformer. Maybe a fixed-camera low-level co-op fighter, if such a thing exists...

silverstarman · « **Reply #77 on:** February 28, 2008, 01:39:34 PM »

Sorry. "Maybe SHE doesn't have an SNES."

missingno · « **Reply #78 on:** February 28, 2008, 03:57:50 PM »

Quote from: ShadowBrain on February 27, 2008, 10:04:33 PM

What constitutes a spin-off, anway? A game in a series that isn't the same genre as the first one? Wouldn't that make Super Mario Bros. a spin-off of Mario Bros.? Just thinking aloud, here.

It's the generally same scheme, though.
If you weren't in the same region the whole time, Mario Bros. would be a platformer.

Bag of Magic Food · « **Reply #79 on:** February 28, 2008, 05:53:46 PM »

But it has platforms, so it is a platformer. It's just not a sidescroller, because the sides don't scroll.

Kojinka · « **Reply #80 on:** February 29, 2008, 11:56:59 AM »

Quote from: Bag of Magic Food on February 28, 2008, 05:53:46 PM

But it has platforms, so it is a platformer. It's just not a sidescroller, because the sides don't scroll.

Can't argue with that logic. :3

blackcat12 · « **Reply #81 on:** February 29, 2008, 05:30:26 PM »

Actually, Subcon is a world that can only be accessed through dreams, so it really happened. At least, I'm pretty sure.

ShadowBrain · « **Reply #82 on:** February 29, 2008, 07:55:13 PM »

^ Are you responding to the first post of the topic, or what?

Bag of Magic Food · « **Reply #83 on:** March 01, 2008, 01:37:37 AM »

Quote from: blackcat12 on February 29, 2008, 05:30:26 PM

Actually, Subcon is a world that can only be accessed through dreams, so it really happened. At least, I'm pretty sure.

Yeah, it's like Imaginationland.

Linkin800 · « **Reply #84 on:** March 03, 2008, 03:19:07 PM »

IMAGINAAAAATIOOON IMAGINAAGINAAAAATIOON IMAGINAAATION lol

Bag of Magic Food · « **Reply #85 on:** March 04, 2008, 01:23:21 PM »

A dream can be a dream come true, with just that spark in me and you!

Kojinka · « **Reply #86 on:** March 06, 2008, 10:58:34 AM »

It even has Mario and Wario!

missingno · « **Reply #87 on:** March 06, 2008, 01:15:58 PM »

Imaginationland had a Bowser knockoff too.