Author Topic: There goes seven decades of our sun having nine planets (Read 9872 times)

Wumbo · « **on:** August 24, 2006, 12:16:51 PM »

http://articles.news.aol.com/news/_a/astronomers-give-pluto-the-boot-as/20060824050509990019?ncid=NWS00010000000001

Pluto got the boot

Deezer · « **Reply #1 on:** August 24, 2006, 12:17:41 PM »

My Very Excellent Mother Just Sits Upstairs Naming

superstarMASIAH · « **Reply #2 on:** August 24, 2006, 12:49:10 PM »

Booooooooo! They suck. Actually Pluto is beleived to be a lost moon of Neptune, but even still, since its big enough and dosn't orbit anything other than the sun, it is a planet still.

Insane Steve · « **Reply #3 on:** August 24, 2006, 12:51:05 PM »

My Very Eager Mother Just Served Us Nine

NINE WHAT?!?!?!

I am very obviously against this for this reason and this reason alone.

Robert · « **Reply #4 on:** August 24, 2006, 12:55:47 PM »

Poor Pluto :(. They're just giving Pluto the boot because it's different. Mean old astronomers >:0! Plus, Pluto was my favorite planet. It is (or was) the underdog of the Solar System because it was so small and so far away. That's why I liked it. Goodbye, Pluto. We hardly knew ye.

Suffix · « **Reply #5 on:** August 24, 2006, 12:59:41 PM »

Microscopic Vermin Eat Mostly Jello Sandwiches Upstairs Nightly.

Not a problem!

SolidShroom · « **Reply #6 on:** August 24, 2006, 01:06:55 PM »

My Very Excited Mouse Just Smells Ultimately Nasty
Ha! See, we don't need Pluto!

Hm...It seems that Suffix got to Replacing the acronym before me... Oh well, the more the merrier I guess.

Glorb · « **Reply #7 on:** August 24, 2006, 01:10:47 PM »

What I dislike most about this new deal is that they're now letting other objects be defined as planets, like Charon, Ceres and UB-313. Charon? Last time I checked, that was a MOON. Ceres? The only claim to fame Ceres has is that Doom's opening episode took place on it. What's next, LV-486? SR-388? I don't want any Xenomorphs or Metroids in our solar system, thank you very much. *huff*

SolidShroom · « **Reply #8 on:** August 24, 2006, 01:12:07 PM »

:( It would pwn to have Zebes in out Solar System.

Vidgmchtr · « **Reply #9 on:** August 24, 2006, 01:18:03 PM »

My Very Educated Mother Just Showed Us Nine.......

GASP!

Funny, we had 9 planets, then there was a proposal to add about 20 more, and now we end up with one less planet than we started.

I'm also very against what Glorb said, I thought it would've been cool to have Ceres, Xena, Ixion, Varuna, Quaoar, Charon, Sedna and others as planets. FYI, Glorb, Charon is BIGGER than Pluto, and it doesn't orbit around Pluto the same way a normal satellite orbits a planet.

Meh, oh well. Times are changing, aren't they? Can't be scared of change.

Suffix · « **Reply #10 on:** August 24, 2006, 01:34:18 PM »

Haha, Glorb's post made me want to say "How about P3X-989? Or P3X..."

How are we going to change that one Magic School Bus episode, though?

Jman · « **Reply #11 on:** August 24, 2006, 01:39:13 PM »

Quote from: Glorb on August 24, 2006, 01:10:47 PM

What I dislike most about this new deal is that they're now letting other objects be defined as planets, like Charon, Ceres and UB-313. Charon? Last time I checked, that was a MOON. Ceres? The only claim to fame Ceres has is that Doom's opening episode took place on it. What's next, LV-486? SR-388? I don't want any Xenomorphs or Metroids in our solar system, thank you very much. *huff*

Yeah, next thing you know, Planet Mobius will show up on our maps of the Solar System. That or Tattooine (two t's or one?)

Lizard Dude · « **Reply #12 on:** August 24, 2006, 02:04:34 PM »

Quote from: Glorb on August 24, 2006, 01:10:47 PM

Charon? Last time I checked, that was a MOON.

If you read the definition of a dwarf planet, you'll notice that they must orbit the sun. Charon orbits Mars, so it cannot be a dwarf planet. Happy?

Quote from: Suffix on August 24, 2006, 01:34:18 PM

Haha, Glorb's post made me want to say "How about P3X-989? Or P3X..."

I would approve!

Quote from: Jman on August 24, 2006, 01:39:13 PM

Yeah, next thing you know, Planet Mobius will show up on our maps of the Solar System. That or Tattooine (two t's or one?)

According to the Sonic comics, planet Mobius is actually Earth of the future after a massive nuclear holocaust.

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Personally, I support this demotion of Pluto quite strongly. Just because we grew up thinking something, doesn't mean it's better not to change it. We know more now, and can make better decisions about classification.

superstarMASIAH · « **Reply #13 on:** August 24, 2006, 02:59:01 PM »

I get what your saying LD, but how are we going to unteach kids even adults that Pluto is no longer an official planet, just a dwarf planet? I mean, people can be stubborn.

Vidgmchtr · « **Reply #14 on:** August 24, 2006, 03:21:38 PM »

Oh, it's easier for children to let go than adults. I'm sure it'd be easy to tell students that Pluto is no longer a planet.

PaperLuigi · « **Reply #15 on:** August 24, 2006, 04:17:59 PM »

Guys, if we all pressure scientists to put Pluto back into the Solar System.................

Arghhhh, this sucks! Pluto was my favorite planet until now!

CrzyFlmngMnkyHead · « **Reply #16 on:** August 24, 2006, 04:41:38 PM »

There's still ten planets...

Mercury
Venus
Earth
Mars
Ceres*
Jupiter
Saturn
Uranus
Neptune
Xena*

*Google it.

Vidgmchtr · « **Reply #17 on:** August 24, 2006, 05:55:01 PM »

No, Ceres and Xena are dwarf planets, just like Pluto.

BP · « **Reply #18 on:** August 24, 2006, 06:10:09 PM »

Awww... that MSB episode is one of the only ones I remember. And the climax was when Arnold freezes his head on Pluto. My cheap old school will NEVER make the necessary changes to educate the little third graders about this. Well it doesn't matter... someday there will be a massive world war and every continent's inhabitants will have to build an artificial planet like a death star to escape from the sun's sucking-up of Earth. Then the death stars will have to blow all the others to tiny bits.
"Man, Vorpy Electrocuted MaxVance Jokingly," Said Ugly Norman.

The Chef · « **Reply #19 on:** August 24, 2006, 06:36:07 PM »

It would be awesome to see Hoth and Dagobah in our solar system. :P

HolyAarom · « **Reply #20 on:** August 24, 2006, 06:45:25 PM »

Well there were thoughts of Pluto being a moon floating independently. It can be a moon of Neptune as the orbital path for Pluto crosses with Neptune.

So I guess it won't be a planet anymore because i think that they might eventually hit each other. Neptune is a lot larger, and Pluto is more fragile because of the cold. Pluto might not disenergrate, but several hits in many centuries will eventually kill Pluto.

Vidgmchtr · « **Reply #21 on:** August 24, 2006, 06:49:04 PM »

Pluto can NOT be a moon, because it orbits the Sun, not Neptune.

HolyAarom · « **Reply #22 on:** August 24, 2006, 06:50:51 PM »

Well I meant something about the orbital Path crossing Neptune.

At first, many people thought it was a moon, but it orbited the sun just like a planet, so it was considered one.

Vidgmchtr · « **Reply #23 on:** August 24, 2006, 07:01:27 PM »

Well, either way, the orbiting path of Pluto never touches Neptune's, so it's not likely at all that they'd hit. The only reason Pluto was sometimes closer to the sun than Neptune was due to the tilted orbit. The tilted orbiting path does not meet at all with Neptune's normal path. They probably would've hit each other by now if what you said was true (and seeing as Neptune doesn't have a solid surface, Pluto would go underneath the surface of Neptune, rather than the two planets colliding).

MaxVance · « **Reply #24 on:** August 24, 2006, 07:28:15 PM »

* MaxVance sighs

Now all the science textbooks are outdated.

Lizard Dude · « **Reply #25 on:** August 24, 2006, 08:43:03 PM »

"What's in a name? That which we call a rose
By any other word would smell as sweet."

--Romeo and Juliet (II, ii, 1-2)

MaxVance · « **Reply #26 on:** August 24, 2006, 09:04:47 PM »

Not if you called them stinkblossoms.

Pt_Peach · « **Reply #27 on:** August 25, 2006, 02:25:41 AM »

This sucks. I've been learning that there were 9 planets for 9 years. If Pluto goes, that makes Uranus sound much wierder a word than it already it.

Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune

It sounds like it's missing something.

You're right, Max! And all the worksheets that ask you to fill in the name of the planets are outdated, too.

Mr. Melee · « **Reply #28 on:** August 25, 2006, 07:15:11 AM »

Just remember your favorite cars/ car companies and you know the planets!

Mercury, Volkswagen, Edsel, Metropolitan, Jaguar, Saturn, Uplander, Nash
Or...
Minnesota Vikings Easily Mash Jacksonville Seattle Until Nothing

Lizard Dude · « **Reply #29 on:** August 25, 2006, 01:24:17 PM »

Quote from: pt_peach on August 25, 2006, 02:25:41 AM

You're right, Max! And all the worksheets that ask you to fill in the name of the planets are outdated, too.

God help us if scientists ever start worrying that their actions will mess up worksheets.

MaxVance · « **Reply #30 on:** August 25, 2006, 04:43:34 PM »

Yep, it's a big problem for school districts and textbook publishers.

Luigison · « **Reply #31 on:** August 25, 2006, 04:54:06 PM »

Most good teachers don't worry about changing worksheet. They either change them to reflect the new info or leave them and use the discrepiency as a teachable moment. The whole planet debate is a great teachable moment. I've never considered Pluto as a planet. At least not a typical one. Maybe Pluto was a moon of Neptune, or maybe it was a trapped commet like object. Regardless of Pluto's past its orbit sets it apart from the other satalites of Sol. Pluto's orbit is much more elipical than the other planets and it's not in the same plane. Pluto's compusition also sets it apart. The outer planets are gas giants. Pluto is neither gaseous nor giant. Pluto is mostly ice and room similiar to a commet and is smaller than Earth's moon. I could say a lot more about the planets, but with only a few hours sleep and a crying baby I think I'll just leave this post, typos, spelling, grammer mistakes and all. Good night. Erm. Day. Uh. Whatever.

Edit: Mom's feeding Hannah. So, I'd like to add that I love having my students write and draw in their textbooks to correct mistakes. I think they learn from it too. Hmmm. It's been three hours. Time for another load of dishes and clothes.

DeadAwake · « **Reply #32 on:** August 26, 2006, 10:42:51 AM »

I saw the thread title and immediately thought one thing: It's time to track down Mrs. Henderson and demand she give me my point back on that test in 3rd grade.

Ludwig · « **Reply #33 on:** August 26, 2006, 11:53:34 AM »

According to my Science teacher, Pluto is still a planet...just categorized into a different group called "Dwarf Planets", although I've never read anything about this.

Mr. Melee · « **Reply #34 on:** August 26, 2006, 01:04:08 PM »

Quick! Everyone find every textbook still in existence that lists Pluto as a planet, keep it/ then for thirty years, and then sell it/ them on eBay for big money!

TEM · « **Reply #35 on:** August 26, 2006, 05:10:46 PM »

http://rippluto.ytmnd.com/

I personally don't care; where's the ENNUI thread at?

Vidgmchtr · « **Reply #36 on:** August 26, 2006, 11:11:46 PM »

I bumped it awhile ago, but no one seemed to care.

AbercrombieBaseball · « **Reply #37 on:** August 26, 2006, 11:20:07 PM »

I've heard that Pluto is a dwarf planet along with a body called Ceres (which I guess was called a planet at one time) and some body with a huge name that's made up of numbers and random letters.

When I was younger, I was very into the solar system. I had a book that theorized Pluto as being an escaped moon of Neptune. It would make sense, since I know their orbits intersect at some point (Pluto, if I recall, is actually closer to the sun right now than Neptune).

In some ways I'm a bit shocked at the demotion, but another part of me feels that Pluto never was a planet. After all, the others past the asteroid belt are gas giants and Pluto is not.

And as for science teachers, they will have to change their curicculum, posters, and books as soon as possible. Textbook companies are about to enjoy a huge sales increase from sudden necessary new book editions...

Luigison · « **Reply #38 on:** August 27, 2006, 11:57:51 AM »

Quote from: AbercrombieBaseball on August 26, 2006, 11:20:07 PM

And as for science teachers, they will have to change their curicculum, posters, and books as soon as possible. Textbook companies are about to enjoy a huge sales increase from sudden necessary new book editions...

I don't think so. Most school districts buy textbooks after a certain number of years. My school is on a five year cycle. I'll order new physics book this year for next year. Then it'll be five years before we can get new ones again even if gravity waves are discovered or teleportation goes beyond the particle level.

GiftedGirl · « **Reply #39 on:** August 27, 2006, 12:03:58 PM »

NOOOOOOOO! I'm not ready to give up Pluto yet! *sobs*

Lizard Dude · « **Reply #40 on:** August 27, 2006, 12:53:33 PM »

Pluto didn't change. A bit. What humans call it did. Big whoooop.

Markio · « **Reply #41 on:** August 27, 2006, 03:14:28 PM »

Hey! I have stuff to say!

They should've let all those other things out in space be planets, because they have cooler names than the pre-existing planets. I mean, Uranus? Mars? Venus? Seriously, they make those hunks of rock floating out in nowhere sounds as boring as... well, hunks of rock floating out in nowhere!(Orbiting, whatever). Jupiter sounds cool, though. And Saturn. Earth sounds almost boring, because of it's monosyllabity, but it's pleasantly weird the more you think about it. Why not have planets called Xena and Cerenosi and Geoba or whatever? I can't wait to take Sci-fi and Fantasy class next year...

As for Pluto, that planet was named after a smart guy, no? Or is that Plato... Well anyway, why isn't Pluto a planet? All I read was "Pluto's not a planet anymore".

And I never used a nmemonic device to remember the planet's order. Or at least saying them all in sequence was easy enough to remember.

Pt_Peach · « **Reply #42 on:** September 01, 2006, 08:30:27 AM »

But alas, some astronomer are launching a campaign to give pluto back it's status.

Deezer · « **Reply #43 on:** September 02, 2006, 05:29:51 PM »

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