I've played, I own (and I've beaten) both smash bros. games, and I love them both. But I like REAL fighting as well. So I'm beggining to think that you guys can't take any air from a REAL fighting game because of an over obsession of Smash Bros. I just have a hard time thinking that Smash Bros. is a fighting game. Yeah, you kick and punch, but when was the last time you've played a fighting game where you throw fire, uppercut, throw bombs, and even thrown pills at your oppenents. And the premise of a fighting game is NOT by knocking your opponent off the stage to win. I love Smash Bros., just not as a fighting game.