Author Topic: Downhill? (Read 29091 times)

smfan1085 · « **Reply #60 on:** April 14, 2006, 11:45:07 PM »

Quote from: Kojinka on April 14, 2006, 11:10:38 PM

I don't mind Petey Piranha, but those bikini panties creep me out.

Those aren't bikini panties. They're just briefs of some sort that he wears to hide his weak spot (his navel).

Kojinka · « **Reply #61 on:** April 15, 2006, 07:17:26 AM »

Whatever. My point was that the concept of a plant creature wearing human clothing kind of creeps me out.

PaperMario · « **Reply #62 on:** April 19, 2006, 10:21:23 AM »

Quote from: Aarom11 on February 07, 2006, 05:41:57 PM

Why:

1. Do people hate Mario Sunshine?
2. Do people hate SM64DS?
3. Bash Mario spin-offs?
4. Complain about characters such as Petey Piranah?
5. Biggest Question : Why do people hate Mario Party?

These are the things I always hear when I hear Mario games going downhill.

1. Well, the plot wasn't very good, the camera was messed up, Peach was really ditzy, and Mario barely spoke. There's also Bowser's voice... No offence Aarom, but did you even bother to check a review about it to know why some people did'nt like it? If you have the game, surely you've noticed a few things that could explain why some people weren't fond of it.

2. Who bashed that game? O_O But anyway, not everyone is gonna like every Mario game. People probably bash it for dumb reasons, like there not being and guns or something.

3. Because there's too many and they're getting in the way of new Mario platformers. Plus, they don't even reqire a plot. Put Mario and friends in a soccer field, and make them play soccer. It barely needs any thought at all.

4. Because he's being overused and just came out of nowhere, out of a game that wasn't very good to most people anyway.

5. Like I said in answer 3, it barely needs any thought to make one. And most mini-games are too similiar to older MP games, but they're disguised to look new and original.

Kojinka · « **Reply #63 on:** April 19, 2006, 03:57:50 PM »

I didn't care for the plot, but I liked the camera system on SMS better than that of SM64. The one thing in a VG camera system I don't remember seeing in either, but I would've loved to see is a 1st person angle in which you are actually seeing things through Mario's perspective.

BP · « **Reply #64 on:** April 19, 2006, 05:47:09 PM »

Camera messed up in SMS? That would have been my last complaint. It's so much smoother than SM64 with the stick replacing the buttons.

Kojinka · « **Reply #65 on:** April 19, 2006, 06:01:16 PM »

Yes. That's why I like the camera in SMS better. With SMS's camera, I could get a better view as to when I should get Mario to jump and determine how close to the edge he was. But you have to remember that SM64 was one of the first full 3D adventures, so yeah, camera would seem a bit akward comepared to those of newer games. By full 3D, I mean that both graphics and envirionment are in 3D.

CreamCat · « **Reply #66 on:** April 19, 2006, 06:13:27 PM »

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People probably bash it for dumb reasons, like there not being and guns or something.

Actually I think it had to do with the fact that people didn't like playing SM64 with a joypad instead of a joystick.

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5. Biggest Question : Why do people hate Mario Party?

Well, no offense, but they got really old fast. I think this game series is where Nintendo should start being innovative. I mean think about it, Nintendo always seems to try to be innovative in games that don't need to be innovative and kind of screw the fun factor over a bit (Example- Donkey Kong jungle Beat probably would have been better had Nintendo not used the bongos as the main peripherals), but the mario Party series is in desperate need of inovation and could probably bennifit alot from it.

Kojinka · « **Reply #67 on:** April 19, 2006, 06:19:23 PM »

I'd say a Mario Party game where some mini-games would require the DDR:MM dance pad.

yoshimastar · « **Reply #68 on:** April 19, 2006, 10:01:19 PM »

M64's camera was pointing in a good view of the action atomatically. If it needed to be moved the C buttons would turn it perfectly. The freedom element of the SMS camera was great but having it be automatically positioned by the game makers like in M64 could make it better.

( when I tried to get back on a cliff with the hover nozzel the camera would turn and screw me up sometimes. And running through the buildings got a lot of bad angles. )

The Mario parties need to stop doing the same thing over and over ( making more of the same minigames ). They need to have a huge innovation to refresh the series with a new element.

BP · « **Reply #69 on:** April 19, 2006, 10:13:42 PM »

Quote from: Kojinka on April 19, 2006, 06:19:23 PM

I'd say a Mario Party game where some mini-games would require the DDR:MM dance pad.

You're a genius.

coolkid · « **Reply #70 on:** July 02, 2006, 09:02:48 PM »

They need to make more platformers PERIOD.If Nintendo actuily makes more M games or any more AT ALL they,1.Will be like Mario without overalls,and2.Just won't be....Nintendo or even innovative!

Ultima Shadow · « **Reply #71 on:** July 03, 2006, 04:43:35 AM »

What's wrong with Nintendo making M rated games? As long as they don't try and put something like Mario, Kirby or Pokemon into it, I'm fine with Nintendo making more mature games. I'd take Perfect Dark over Yoshi's Safari any day.

Clark Beyer · « **Reply #72 on:** July 03, 2006, 09:46:53 AM »

I don't think Nintendo is going downhill. If you hate sports and party games, by all means, those are signs of Hudson and the other third parties going downhill. You can usually tell when Nintendo collaborated to make a game because the game feels so much different than Nintendo's other games. The only game I "loved" from Hudson is Adventure Island for the NES.

I've only played the first three Mario Parties, and I don't plan on getting the others. I have only played Mario Golf for the GBC, and I don't plan on getting any of the other sports games. I care more about 100% Nintendo games than 50% Nintendo games (50% meaning when Nintendo worked with a third party to make a game).

Therefore, we really can't say that Nintendo is going downhill for the sports and party games, because those games were designed along with other companies. Here are the true Nintendo games:
The Mario Kart series.
The 2D Mario platformer series.
The 3D Mario platformer series.
The Zelda games.
The Kirby games for NES, GB, and SNES.
The Metroid games for NES, GB, GBA, and SNES.
Pikmin games, Animal Crossing games, etc.

I have not noticed a single decline of quality in these games. Why? They're 100 percent Nintendo-made.

That's not to say that I hate collaborations; I liked some of the pokemon games for the gameboy systems. I liked the first three Mario parties. I loved the Donkey kong country trilogy. I LOVED all the Mario RPG games and Warioware. I'd say, the best companies Nintendo has worked with are Intelligent Systems, Alpha Dream, Rare, Retro Studios, and HAL Laboratories.

In conclusion: Nintendo isn't going downhill. Hudson and the the other Mario-sports third parties are.

BP · « **Reply #73 on:** July 03, 2006, 11:32:47 AM »

Maybe we only think there's nothing but spinoffs these days because it's true. Miyamoto is so dang busy all the time. He's got LoZ:TP, the whole Wii deal, he's been playing around with stuff in his "SM128" project, and for a while he had NSMB. He probably has little or no spare time to make lots of great games because he's always trying to make that one amazing game. So in the meantime we can Party until our thumbs fall off.

coolkid · « **Reply #74 on:** July 03, 2006, 11:42:37 AM »

If Nintendo makes one more they could go crazy with M games and even make an M Mario>:(